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R1madness
28th July 2009, 21:24
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
2 If i put together a cost price one would anyone actually buy one? I will offer it for exactly what it costs to buy the items that i think (based on years of first aid and civil defence training) will be most usefull in a serious accident. I have no idea what it will cost but the hard thing is going to be finding something small enough and waterproof enough to keep it all tidy and sterile? So suggestions for a container please...
onearmedbandit
28th July 2009, 21:27
I got an emergency tire repair kit as a gift the other day, probably would fit what you're describing. And yes I'd buy one. To be at the scene of an accident and not being able to do anything would be horrible.
p.dath
28th July 2009, 21:40
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
2 If i put together a cost price one would anyone actually buy one? I will offer it for exactly what it costs to buy the items that i think (based on years of first aid and civil defence training) will be most usefull in a serious accident. I have no idea what it will cost but the hard thing is going to be finding something small enough and waterproof enough to keep it all tidy and sterile? So suggestions for a container please...
We got little automotive first aid kits installed in our work cars. They are quite small, maybe the size of 4 packs of cigarettes? I recall them being reasonably cheap. The car dealer got them installed for us.
So I'd say there is something already on the market which would do the job.
EatOrBeEaten
28th July 2009, 21:46
I was on an outdoor first aid course last week actually, and asked the guy in charge about this. He reckoned that for trauma injuries there's very little in a first aid kid that you can't fashion anyway from clothing etc., all you need is the expertise. We talked about the possibility of using body armour in jackets as splints, t-shirts as bandages etc.
I think a first aid kit is useless anyway without the know-how. I'm seriously considering a proper two-day outdoor First aid course, but I think there's a lot to be said for taking even basic training if you go on long rides, it scares me a little to think of being in an accident and nobody knowing what to do (or doing something really stupid)
Leyton
28th July 2009, 21:50
Erm yeah.. I have no idea what to do with a first aid kit.. they are useless without the know how I agree.
It would be nice to have the training.
Jonno.
28th July 2009, 22:01
Def worth it but a first aid course is also a great choice. I did my workplace fa and it only cost 160. Good value for money.
Pedrostt500
28th July 2009, 22:05
I brought a couple of First Aid kits from mitre 10 a little while ago, they seem to have most things in them, about $20 each, about the size of a toiletry bag.
Hitcher
28th July 2009, 22:07
First aid kit, puncture repair kit, selection of tools, can of petrol, replacement visor, spark plug, oil, tyre levers, rain jacket, belt, braces. Good grief, we're supposed to be bikers not van drivers.
FROSTY
28th July 2009, 22:09
My honest opinion --and NOT wanting to put down the OP. Dont waste ya money on a first aid KIT. Put it towards a first aid COURSE. --as explained earlier theres stuff all in a kit that cant be made from whats around you but the Knowledge --thats invaluable
Ollie.T
28th July 2009, 22:56
If your after first aid stuff that packs down small, check out AIDE systems. Everything is vacuum packed down really small - keeps it sterile too.
If you ask around a few outdoor stores, you can find places that sell the compression bandages, sterile dressings etc individually. It may be slightly more expensive than the bits you get from a pharmacy, but a lot smaller/lighter.
And the company is NZ owned :D
I have also done a few different first aid courses, I have found outdoors oriented ones much more informative than workplace ones. Workplace ones are sometimes along the lines of "here is how to put a bandage on... and here is how to call 111"
Also thinking about doing a pre hospital emergency care course....
ready4whatever
30th July 2009, 09:45
could be worth it just to save yourself? like on black hawk down how he has his blood type on his helmet. some may think stupid but its gonna help when you need operating on. im not saying put it on your motorbike helmet but somewhere
klingon
30th July 2009, 10:17
I have a few basic things in a small box under my seat. The box is a tupperware sandwich box - a perfect fit. But I know it wouldn't fit on other bikes. Something that kind of rolls up into a tube is often a better use of space.
In mine I have a few very basic things like those saline things for washing foreign objects out of your eyes. Nothing life-saving, just stuff that might be needed for minor mishaps.
Cajun
30th July 2009, 10:21
The Aprilia has a first aid kit sitting under the rear cowl, it was one my work gave away for xmas present one year. before that it was in the gsxr 1000 tail.
Having something is better than nothing. I know how to use all the stuff in the pack with doing a number of first aid courses over the years.
But one other thing is is making sure you cellphone is fully charged before going riding, and even knowning what road/locataion you are at all times, cause if there is an accident, could you tell 111, where you are located to send people to help.
NighthawkNZ
30th July 2009, 10:22
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
2 If i put together a cost price one would anyone actually buy one? I will offer it for exactly what it costs to buy the items that i think (based on years of first aid and civil defence training) will be most usefull in a serious accident. I have no idea what it will cost but the hard thing is going to be finding something small enough and waterproof enough to keep it all tidy and sterile? So suggestions for a container please...
Carry a small kit most of the time...
http://www.southernrider.co.nz/wiki/index.php/First_aid_kit
Jonno.
30th July 2009, 10:38
Workplace first aid covers two unit standards and i will definitely save someones life with the stuff i learnt. We even used a motorcycle accident as a scenario. A1 first aid if you're out west Auckland, very good and best price.
jetboy
30th July 2009, 11:53
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
2 If i put together a cost price one would anyone actually buy one? I will offer it for exactly what it costs to buy the items that i think (based on years of first aid and civil defence training) will be most usefull in a serious accident. I have no idea what it will cost but the hard thing is going to be finding something small enough and waterproof enough to keep it all tidy and sterile? So suggestions for a container please...
Yes I carry one in the bike, and yes I'd be interested in buying one (as long as it fits in the bike)....the one I have has been used already so need new gears. Keep me in the loop man.
Edit: I have already taken several first aid courses...but it will be a great marketing tool to include a basic first aid course in the cost of the kit, as I agree that without the know-how kits are relatively useless.
Speak to St Johns and see if they will help you out.
1wheel riot
31st July 2009, 20:23
yes i have a small 1 and for the small amount of money it mite just save your life or someones you no. i recomend it to every one
Moki
11th August 2009, 19:22
Kathmandu make a couple different sizes- On sale the smaller of the two would set you back just over 20 bucks. It's got everything you're after and more.
dangerous
11th August 2009, 19:40
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
Havent read past the 1st post so no flaming if already said.
Having been there and done that, I can sugest a few extra items... gravel rash etc being high up there.
Markw336
13th August 2009, 21:35
i would think this is a great idea on a scooter aswell because if you fall off you always grace your legs and a bandage is always handy
Road Guardian
19th August 2009, 16:56
My first aid kit is my hands, thats all I need. No fancy dressings, or triangular bandages, or sagar splints, or larayngeal mask airways are needed. All I have is a resus mask, but even I would not use that, as I will allways have a bystander to help me do that :)
gunnyrob
19th August 2009, 17:07
virtually always have one in the top box. St Johns do training to a high standard & also offer NZQA units. NZ Safety has first aid kits too.
allycatz
19th August 2009, 18:20
i would think this is a great idea on a scooter aswell because if you fall off you always grace your legs and a bandage is always handy
Always? ..... try wearing longer pants then!
Arrowolf
19th August 2009, 21:18
I got a full first aid kit with me at any time.
Thats what we have to do in god old Germany by law.
So i do it here as well.
It is not bigger than a pair of gloves,but it can save life.:done:
klingon
20th August 2009, 13:43
My first aid kit is my hands, thats all I need. No fancy dressings, or triangular bandages, or sagar splints, or larayngeal mask airways are needed. All I have is a resus mask, but even I would not use that, as I will allways have a bystander to help me do that :)
Jesus? Is that you? :shit:
Road Guardian
20th August 2009, 16:49
Jesus? Is that you? :shit:
HAHA, funny, I could be, possibly????
Na, not really, but some people view my type of work as that of an Angel.
90s
26th August 2009, 11:49
I carry a Co2 puncture repair kit and a full little meds bag at all times.
I carry it also in case someone needs to use it on me, and it will make there life easier than just for others. As someone on warfarin I like to know there is stuff handy to prevent bleeding.
Rhino
27th August 2009, 21:37
First aid kit resides in the top box of the `Wing. Contains more than the St John kit supplied by work for the company cage.
Griffin
30th August 2009, 00:28
My first aid kit is my hands, thats all I need. No fancy dressings, or triangular bandages, or sagar splints, or larayngeal mask airways are needed. All I have is a resus mask, but even I would not use that, as I will allways have a bystander to help me do that :)
What a load of bollocks. Im not sure what or who you think you are but "my first aid kit is my hands... that is all I need" makes you sound like you think an AWFUL LOT of yourself.
As for the intent of this thread... training is great, carrying a first aid kit is great, doing both is awesome - hopefully none of us will ever have to use our training or our kits.
R1Madness... most first aid trainers have a range of first aid kits for different user groups... I would make a few phone or internet enquiries to see whats available. If the bag it comes in isnt suitable for on the bike (eg - waterproof)then a similar sized snap lock container should do the trick.
kevfromcoro
30th August 2009, 03:41
[QUOTE=klingon;1129331145]I have a few basic things in a small box under my seat.
Thats a strange place to keep it.
Roro
1st September 2009, 21:48
Most of the stuff in those first aid kits is kind of pointless. Great if you get a splinter or a really nasty blister, but no good in a serious motor vehicle accident. I carry a recuss mask and two really good sized crepe bandages (4 in the cage) - enough to get by with till the medics show up. Fortunately the only use they have been is to tie up a broken pannier strap on the Milford road.
BonnieLass
16th February 2011, 15:25
Two things
1 Who carries a first aid kit on their bikes? Nothing fancy, just a pressure bandage, a disposable rescussitation mask, and a triangular bandage? These things could save your best mates life.
2 If i put together a cost price one would anyone actually buy one? I will offer it for exactly what it costs to buy the items that i think (based on years of first aid and civil defence training) will be most usefull in a serious accident. I have no idea what it will cost but the hard thing is going to be finding something small enough and waterproof enough to keep it all tidy and sterile? So suggestions for a container please...
I carry a first aid kit, esp for the longer rides. I had a good look around on Trade Me and found a reasonably priced, med sized kit that was packed with useful stuff for about $40. Many of them only have 1 of everything & seem pretty useless unless you were treating very minor injuries. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=316201521 Pretty cheap I thought, I don't think I could put a kit like this together for that price.
Berg
16th February 2011, 18:53
Yep I carry one. Started with a good "triple one care" kit then added a few extras to it. Have stuff for extracting steel, glass etc and also carry two tubes of saline for washing out wounds, eyes or wetting bandages etc. Carried it with me always on the quad and used it to deal to some horrific moto-x injuries.
Now carry it on my road bike and hope I never need it.
Mrs Berg is a qualified paramedic and I do first aid courses through work. It's surprising what you remember when krap his the turboprop
Flip
16th February 2011, 21:33
I have one in all my vehicles, have used a few plasters but otherwise I have never used it in anger.
I have done the first aid course every 2 years for the last 36. Got a bit sick of them these days.
About the only thing I carry extra in mine is a survival blanket and some antihistamine because I don't like wasps.
burden2
19th February 2011, 09:23
I carry a small but reasonably comprehensive kit unless I am riding round town that I scored from work and added a few bits to, the two most important things in the kit are a resus shield (have one in my wallet as well) and a couple of pairs of latex gloves. Had to do refreshers every six months being in the electrical industry so the knowhow isnt a big deal, knowing how to improvise for the bigger items like neck brace and splints is invaluable. Have never had to use it in anger on the road but always good to know its there if I ever need it for myself or someone else.
munster
19th February 2011, 18:49
Carry a small one in the saddle bags, + a towel, bungees, neck sock and other miscellaneous crap
heyjoe
6th April 2011, 11:34
Someone mentioned in an earlier posts that it's good to get training. Go for a training provider that is accredited to do NZQA courses. For general home and work and motorcycling situations, all you need is the following Unit Standard courses:
US 6401 V3 L2 - Basic First Aid
US 6402 V5 L2 - Cardio Pulmonary Resuscitation
Hope this is helpful.
willytheekid
6th April 2011, 12:08
Yup, I carry a First AID kit on the guzzi...and one for the bike too lol
I actually used mine during the earth-quake....was sooo glad I had it on the bike.
The Missues had her right foot smashed up trying to get her and we Ryder out of the house they where in.
She had a swollen foot and lost the toe nail off her big toe :sick:...but no fracture etc
Put her in my thermal wet weather suit to warm her up (shock) cleaned and bandaged that toe right up :yes:...I even had food and drink in the tank bag (lunch from work), talk about prepared and greatfull for it.:woohoo:
I highly advise KBers to get medical training and be prepared, could save a mates life....or even your own!
matdaymon
6th April 2011, 12:19
I've always carried a first aid kit in my cages (when I've owned them) and bought one from cycletreads at the beginning of the year for the bike. It was about $20 from memory down from $30. Fits under the pillion seat and has quite a lot in it. Only added a couple of condoms and toilet paper (which I keep in a zip lock bag) to it for those very rare occasions when I'm caught out :woohoo: Still trying to think of other uses for the prior in a first aid sense...
Would hate to be caught without a basic first aid kit though, even if you don't know how to use everything if your lucky someone else on scene will. Been meaning to do a course but don't have the spare money required to do one at the moment. Not knowing how to use it all is no reason to not have it on you in my opinion.
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