Dead Toad 3hr Cross country race August 16 2009

[billaroo]

This is the 35th running of this iconic event which makes it New Zealands oldest Hare Scramble- be there and be part of history.

[MB1]

Footie season ends this weekend so def doing this event. Do you know if you can enter on the day?

[billaroo]

Footie season ends this weekend so def doing this event. Do you know if you can enter on the day?

yes it is entry on the day only.

[vazza]

Won't miss this for anything :D!

[jt119]

Won't miss this for anything :D!

second that

[flyingcr250]

Won't miss this for anything :D!

third!:2guns:

[vazza]

lol knob jockey :P

[xen]

Won't miss this for anything :D!

4th! I gotta practice whoops lol

[vazza]

You get about 400 riders starting at the same time ay? Thats what I heard.

[Rupe]

had promised myself I'd do this, but not fit enough and won't have time to get fit.

[flyingcr250]

had promised myself I'd do this, but not fit enough and won't have time to get fit.

who cares about gettin fit, im just out to ride, my bike fitness is far better than my general fitness lol:laugh:

[Rupe]

who cares about gettin fit, im just out to ride, my bike fitness is far better than my general fitness lol:laugh:

it becomes a bit of a chore halfway through, ment bike fitness anyway.

[jt119]

who cares about gettin fit, im just out to ride, my bike fitness is far better than my general fitness lol:laugh:

not going to let you win eny more

[flyingcr250]

not going to let you win eny more

whatever :stupid:

[A&R]

it becomes a bit of a chore halfway through, ment bike fitness anyway.

You done this before Rupe?
Thought I might have a go but don't know really....... might - lack of fitness, too old and likely to break something......... me ....... or the bike puts me off.
However never done it before so I'm always keen to do something once. Is it as hard as it sounds. Scares me when it says " no trail riders":shit::wacko:

[Rupe]

You done this before Rupe?
Thought I might have a go but don't know really....... might - lack of fitness, too old and likely to break something......... me ....... or the bike puts me off.
However never done it before so I'm always keen to do something once. Is it as hard as it sounds. Scares me when it says " no trail riders":shit::wacko:

Nah, never done it and haven't been riding that long so haven't really had the chance. Don't think it would be much harder than any other race you've done, just depends if feel up to 3hrs, not sure I do at present but see what happens nearer the time

[A&R]

This is the 35th running of this iconic event which makes it New Zealands oldest Hare Scramble- be there and be part of history.

What would you compare this to Billaroo?...... GNCC equivalent or harder?

[vazza]

GNCC's tend to last 2.5 hours. This race is pretty fast and open I think

[flyingcr250]

GNCC's tend to last 2.5 hours. This race is pretty fast and open I think

shit only 2 weeks away, better get training ha ha ha:apint:

[camchain]

Don't let the 'no trail riders' thing put you off A&R. Some events have a trail ride on same course day before or after, that's all. Haven't licked the Toad yet myself but looking at last year results, race looks to be roughly 3 1/2 hours average time for most.

Birchy marked course one year and a few found it a bit tough. I think last year might have had hard/easy options here and there as well? Danger did this race not too long ago I think?

[flyingcr250]

Don't let the 'no trail riders' thing put you off A&R. Some events have a trail ride on same course day before or after, that's all. Haven't licked the Toad yet myself but looking at last year results, race looks to be roughly 3 1/2 hours average time for most.

Birchy marked course one year and a few found it a bit tough. I think last year might have had hard/easy options here and there as well? Danger did this race not too long ago I think?

im looking forward to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYyYeFWmUzY

[Danger]

Here you go boys, dug out a report I did when I did it two years ago. Might give you some idea.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1178949#post1178949

Last year I couldn't make race day but gave the boys a hand to mark it out.

Was hoping to ride it again this year but afraid not with one thing and another. At least I have one Toad in the cabinet from this iconic race. Give it a go is my recommendation. Hopefully I will be back next year.

[A&R]

Thanks danger,
great report then and still is now. If it was hard for you :blink::shit: it will be more than hard for me then. I haven't done more than 2hrs flat out for a while ( probably last GNCC). If I can ( other things don't get in the way) I will ahve a go at it. I;ll see if I can get the lad to do the tadpole as well and make a weekend of it.:Punk:

[camchain]

Fooo. Danger's excellent report hurt just to read about (Chop nearly spewing didn't help). Good to know that others suffer though. Can feel like everyone else is breezing along but often not the case. Will need every bit of fitness can lay a hand on for this so better get stuck in. Will be a good one to have under the belt.

[jt119]

4th! I gotta practice whoops lol

should we have a bet out of me you and stev winner has to pick up and load bikes

[xen]

should we have a bet out of me you and stev winner has to pick up and load bikes

all good man, will be good to not to have to do that at the end of the day haha

Vids look cool, nice report Danger, this just got way harder!

Glad theres some clay bits and cool hills

[billaroo]

What would you compare this to Billaroo?...... GNCC equivalent or harder?

very similar to gncc except half an hour longer plus the loop will be 25+ k's to lessen the course damage- also a lot less whoops than gncc but it is still woodhill....

[chop]

Fooo. Danger's excellent report hurt just to read about (Chop nearly spewing didn't help). Good to know that others suffer though. Can feel like everyone else is breezing along but often not the case. Will need every bit of fitness can lay a hand on for this so better get stuck in. Will be a good one to have under the belt.

haha hmmmmmmmm yes that was a couple of years ago and had a klx450 and i was 15 or so kilo heavier and very unfit.. did better last year 23rd over all and 4th expert over's... The toad is great fun indeed...

[takitimu]

haha hmmmmmmmm yes that was a couple of years ago and had a klx450 and i was 15 or so kilo heavier and very unfit.. did better last year 23rd over all and 4th expert over's... The toad is great fun indeed...

Last year was a great race, really looking forward to this years.

[billaroo]

Last year was a great race, really looking forward to this years.

hope your bringing half of northland with you nigel?

[chop]

hope your bringing half of northland with you nigel?

Neilds???????

[takitimu]

Neilds???????

Yep, they are keen, Damon wants to keep his trophy pretty bad.

Not to sure who else yet, a few interested, but nothing confirmed, I'll be throwing out a newsletter up here shortly & I'll mention it in that as well.

[tommorth]

I'm in better do some exersize the two man was hard enough

[jt119]

I'm in better do some exersize the two man was hard enough

good stuff now we just need to talk courts into it

[vazza]

Awesome read Danger. Sounds like death! Cant wait =)

[billaroo]

We have just about finished marking the course- it's around 21k and probably has the most amount of new stuff ever.
This is the best track we have had in years- don't miss it.

[takitimu]

We have just about finished marking the course- it's around 21k and probably has the most amount of new stuff ever.
This is the best track we have had in years- don't miss it.

Nice work Bill !!.

[vazza]

Seriously cant wait! :D!

Able to give us an idea on what its like? Alot of tight stuff?

[billaroo]

Seriously cant wait! :D!

Able to give us an idea on what its like? Alot of tight stuff?

not a lot of real tight stuff- we are trying to keep it flowing to stop the bottle necks- couple of good jumps in parts though.....

[tommorth]

cool getting excited now

[flyingcr250]

not a lot of real tight stuff- we are trying to keep it flowing to stop the bottle necks- couple of good jumps in parts though.....

i like the sound of a nice flowing track. the real tight stuff gets to me a bit

[xen]

Yeehaaa, so a bit shorter than last year's track will mean shorter lap times? Hope so as pretty sure I'd need a 30min rest in the middle to do 3.5hrs lol

[Ktmboy]

i like the sound of a nice flowing track. the real tight stuff gets to me a bit

Yes, but on the other side of the coin the shorter the track the more bikes go over it. End result it gets harder as the day goes on:Punk:
Oh yeah!! roots, ruts, techy stuff. Thats all good for you Wires experts eh<_<

[flyingcr250]

Yes, but on the other side of the coin the shorter the track the more bikes go over it. End result it gets harder as the day goes on:Punk:
Oh yeah!! roots, ruts, techy stuff. Thats all good for you Wires experts eh<_<

i like ruts and tree roots and even whoops, but i also like to wind out through the gears every so often too. changing from 2nd to 3rd then back to 2nd again gets a bit boring after a couple of hours.

[Chia]

Bugger I'll miss it but Good luck to all the KB'ers racing...!

[A&R]

Ok I'm going.
New sprockets, tyres, service. Bike should be OK but could be a different matter for the rider.<_< Couldn't get out this weekend:crybaby::weep:;)so guess i'll just have to struggle round. Hope those jumps you can see this time billaroo not like that one at the last WMC woodhill day that took me by surprise. :spanking:
Look forward to it. :scooter: :scooter:
Some bling for marking it all out.:Punk:

[flyingcr250]

Ok I'm going.
New sprockets, tyres, service. Bike should be OK but could be a different matter for the rider.<_< Couldn't get out this weekend:crybaby::weep:;)so guess i'll just have to struggle round. Hope those jumps you can see this time billaroo not like that one at the last WMC woodhill day that took me by surprise. :spanking:
Look forward to it. :scooter: :scooter:
Some bling for marking it all out.:Punk:

me too, bikes all back together, ready for the next few weekends of racing lol
:scooter:

[Ktmboy]

I've got a leave pass to ride in this. Unfit is probably an understatement.

Bigger problem is the primary drive seal is well leaking. Automatic chain oiler in fact.
I'm away with work till Saturday so there is no time to replace it, so that means every pit stop its check the fuel and top up the oil.

Looking forward to the start though. I'd pay just to get a buzz at the start:woohoo:

[flyingcr250]

should be fun with this weather comming.

http://metservice.co.nz/public/localWeather/auckland.html

[Rupe]

should be fun with this weather comming.

http://metservice.co.nz/public/localWeather/auckland.html

Sand is better to ride wet.

[vazza]

Ahh it'll just be afew showers I reckon

[takitimu]

Ahh it'll just be afew showers I reckon

The three day rain forecast reckoned that to http://metservice.co.nz/public/maps/rain-forecast-3-day.html

After I get the new chain on, I'd better make sure I rainx the goggles :)

[flyingcr250]

Ahh it'll just be afew showers I reckon

make those tree roots nice and slippery, on top of that ill be hungover too.:pinch:

[Rupe]

make those tree roots nice and slippery, on top of that ill be hungover too.:pinch:

Sounds like you're getting your excusses ready already, haven't sprained your wrist too have you???

[xen]

Sounds like you're getting your excusses ready already, haven't sprained your wrist too have you???

lol

Yeah some rain would be good

[flyingcr250]

Sounds like you're getting your excusses ready already, haven't sprained your wrist too have you???

na i put my back out and ive got a bald tyre, and the moon isnt in the right position in the sky.:yes:

[jt119]

for me a cpl of showers works wonders dont mind the cold water on my face get alittle boost from it after riding for an hour or so fucking hate tree roots wet or dry though

[tommorth]

bit of rain to keep it cool will be great will just have to keep moving so my glasses don't fog up

[flyingcr250]

what a day!! after a shit start, and a scuffle with another rider, i hade my day cut short with a puncture, only got 2 laps in...............thats motorsport i guess!

[Rupe]

what a day!! after a shit start, and a scuffle with another rider, i hade my day cut short with a puncture, only got 2 laps in...............thats motorsport i guess!

I am really, really, fucked. Have to get better fitness before I enter something like this again. Great track though, but thought it would be harder for some reason

[cheese]

Sounds like you're getting your excusses ready already, haven't sprained your wrist too have you???

Ha ha, whatever! My wrist is seriously not very good. At the moment I have weekly physio and a wrist brace.

Good on you guys that raced!

[jt119]

what a day!! after a shit start, and a scuffle with another rider, i hade my day cut short with a puncture, only got 2 laps in...............thats motorsport i guess!that was a good last lap lol prick ran my foot over passing me bummer about the tyre

[flyingcr250]

that was a good last lap lol prick ran my foot over passing me bummer about the tyre

thats my first puncture in 5 years.:blank: ahh well theres always the 2man:headbang:

[xen]

Yea that was a cool race, way easier than I thought it was going to be after reading dangers report from last year.. was just a bit harder than the 2man with some steeper hills. Thought I'd only have to do 3 laps but got the 4th in pretty buggered but think the 2man really helped my fitness unless I was just going way slower lol

[xen]

Oh yeah really liked it how on the 2nd lap we got diverted into the clearfell section

[jt119]

thats my first puncture in 5 years.:blank: ahh well theres always the 2man:headbang:object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pNubLLftKbA&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pNubLLftKbA&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[xen]

lol nice!

My front brake is still dragging, so must be why I came in after you guys ;)

[tommorth]

awsome day the start was choice and I managed to get through most of the group some how and a good line up that first hill then a guy looped out on the second one and landed on the front of my bike was pretty funny though.
Thought somthing was wrong with my front end about halfway through the second lap was deflecting all over the show had a look after the third and turned out I also had a flat so got to spend some time spectating .
Great track and dont feel any way near as tired/sore as I did after the two man. Was cool haveing that big downhill from the twoman again and had a few good battles with a guy on a yz125 .

[jt119]

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[vazza]

Was such an awesome ride.

Had a pretty good start, was as far right as you could go. I had the fence next to me haha. Ended up flying up on the outside of everyone. There was a huge pileup on the left of the gate, I managed to scoot through on the right lol. Was in the top 30 riders I think, lucky. That hill climb was gnarly where everyone got stuck lol.

First 2 laps were pretty good, was trying to pass people etc. Ended up coming behind Tony, followed him for a while then managed to roost him on one of the straights hahaha! :bleh: 2nd half of the race was where it got gay, came off about 6 times due to the rear slipping out, havnt changed the tyre for 40 hours lol! and my boot nearly fell off!

Had some awesome battles with a dude with red gear on a YZ125/250 and a guy on a YZF250/450, the whole race they wernt to far away. At this stage I had forgotten about Tony, with only about 3/4 of the lap to go. Feeling pretty knackered I wasnt really going for it. Came to about the last 500m and I heard a bike franticly revving behind me.. I thought it must have been Rory Mead doing his 10th lap or something haha, but turns out it was ktmboy!! He then blasted past me. Wasnt happy, then really put on the pace and was on his heels haha but he managed to beat me by about 2 seconds. You dog. Haha!

Ended up winning the Clubman class which I was pretty stoked about:first:, I thought clubman was the class inbetween expert and intermediate haha! My bad. I think I came 26th overall which im happy about, would have been the icing on the cake if I bet Tony! Until next time :P!

Big ups to the WMCC crew, had a really great time, everything was run perfect!

Would love to see some photos! There was a dude with a parked up bike taking some shots.

Sorry about my life story! :rolleyes:

[Rupe]

Was such an awesome ride.

Had a pretty good start, was as far right as you could go. I had the fence next to me haha. Ended up flying up on the outside of everyone. There was a huge pileup on the left of the gate, I managed to scoot through on the right lol. Was in the top 30 riders I think, lucky. That hill climb was gnarly where everyone got stuck lol.

First 2 laps were pretty good, was trying to pass people etc. Ended up coming behind Tony, followed him for a while then managed to roost him on one of the straights hahaha! :bleh: 2nd half of the race was where it got gay, came off about 6 times due to the rear slipping out, havnt changed the tyre for 40 hours lol! and my boot nearly fell off!

Had some awesome battles with a dude with red gear on a YZ125/250 and a guy on a YZF250/450, the whole race they wernt to far away. At this stage I had forgotten about Tony, with only about 3/4 of the lap to go. Feeling pretty knackered I wasnt really going for it. Came to about the last 500m and I heard a bike franticly revving behind me.. I thought it must have been Rory Mead doing his 10th lap or something haha, but turns out it was ktmboy!! He then blasted past me. Wasnt happy, then really put on the pace and was on his heels haha but he managed to beat me by about 2 seconds. You dog. Haha!

Ended up winning the Clubman class which I was pretty stoked about:first:, I thought clubman was the class inbetween expert and intermediate haha! My bad. I think I came 26th overall which im happy about, would have been the icing on the cake if I bet Tony! Until next time :P!

Big ups to the WMCC crew, had a really great time, everything was run perfect!

Would love to see some photos! There was a dude with a parked up bike taking some shots.

Sorry about my life story! :rolleyes:

Good effort mate, there were a lot of quick riders there today, and a lot of shiney roots waiting to flick the front wheel out from under you. good result, you must be happy.

[Ktmboy]

Got an absolutely shit start. 3 kicks to go. Damn.

There was one guy on a yamaha about 2k into the race and he exited stage right big time. The gully was freakin huge.
I think Vazza learn't a couple of tricks today. Being the suberb athlete than I am, "not" I had a serious case of cramps for a few laps. Chop told me that Vazza was ahead with two laps to go so decided to HTFU and go Vazza hunting. My last lap was my quickest as the cramps had disappated slightly.

Was funny as with only about 2-3 k to go I saw Vazza and managed to catch him. Getting past was easy, I just asked him to move out of the road and he did. God bless, some riders do have manners LOL.:clap:

Thanks Vin. I'll take that till next time.

That dude on the YZ125 was funny. He pitted every lap then was at your back door reving the shit out his bike 20 minutes later.

Bodies in no pain yet. That will come later.

Congrates to all involved and especially Vazza. You're going good.

[takitimu]

What a race, I was way back at the start but squeezed past a few at the gate the passed a heap on the two hills - both hills I rode up the right side off the track and made it, then things didn't go so great, lost 6 places when could not start the bike after stalling on a downhill ( the one with a heap of drops off roots ), in the end did 4 laps and was well back in the field, slowed all the way to end.
Major ups to the wmcc was a great event.
Oh it was easier than last year and please no more encourgement for birchy to do another "easy" course like last year, I liked how tricky it was this year, the clear fell was heaps easier in the last loop, but tricky enough first time around.

[vazza]

Got an absolutely shit start. 3 kicks to go. Damn.


I think Vazza learn't a couple of tricks today. Being the suberb athlete than I am, "not" I had a serious case of cramps for a few laps. Chop told me that Vazza was ahead with two laps to go so decided to HTFU and go Vazza hunting. My last lap was my quickest as the cramps had disappated slightly.

Was funny as with only about 2-3 k to go I saw Vazza and managed to catch him. Getting past was easy, I just asked him to move out of the road and he did. God bless, some riders do have manners LOL.:clap:

Congrates to all involved and especially Vazza. You're going good.

Hahah! Yeah I definatly learnt heaps that race. Cheers bud, looking forward to racing with ya again!

&Cheers rupe!:niceone:

[flyingcr250]

Was such an awesome ride.

Had a pretty good start, was as far right as you could go. I had the fence next to me haha. Ended up flying up on the outside of everyone. There was a huge pileup on the left of the gate, I managed to scoot through on the right lol. Was in the top 30 riders I think, lucky. That hill climb was gnarly where everyone got stuck lol.

First 2 laps were pretty good, was trying to pass people etc. Ended up coming behind Tony, followed him for a while then managed to roost him on one of the straights hahaha! :bleh: 2nd half of the race was where it got gay, came off about 6 times due to the rear slipping out, havnt changed the tyre for 40 hours lol! and my boot nearly fell off!

Had some awesome battles with a dude with red gear on a YZ125/250 and a guy on a YZF250/450, the whole race they wernt to far away. At this stage I had forgotten about Tony, with only about 3/4 of the lap to go. Feeling pretty knackered I wasnt really going for it. Came to about the last 500m and I heard a bike franticly revving behind me.. I thought it must have been Rory Mead doing his 10th lap or something haha, but turns out it was ktmboy!! He then blasted past me. Wasnt happy, then really put on the pace and was on his heels haha but he managed to beat me by about 2 seconds. You dog. Haha!

Ended up winning the Clubman class which I was pretty stoked about:first:, I thought clubman was the class inbetween expert and intermediate haha! My bad. I think I came 26th overall which im happy about, would have been the icing on the cake if I bet Tony! Until next time :P!

Big ups to the WMCC crew, had a really great time, everything was run perfect!

Would love to see some photos! There was a dude with a parked up bike taking some shots.

Sorry about my life story! :rolleyes:


theres going to be a nice big DNF next to my name:baby:

[Henk]

Was such an awesome ride.


Would love to see some photos! There was a dude with a parked up bike taking some shots.



Dude with the parked up bike was Geoff Osborne. Keep an eye on KiwiRider

[billaroo]

There were some pretty tired looking faces at the end and some pretty scaring moves in the scoring chute!
Just the one injury (ribs) and NO cheating which makes us pretty happy-amazing how fast the course gets hammered though.

[camchain]

Good stuff guys. Even if not a great result for some, at least you were there. Vazza you must be stoked, take my hat off to you! Watch out for KTMboy next time though. Hat's off to you as well. Can relate to those cramps, they can bloody near cripple you.

Weird the flat tyre fairy paying a few visits. Guy I was talking to last light got a flat rear, changed it then got a slow leak on front & had to pump up each lap.

[billaroo]

Results now up on our link below- this is the highest class field we have had in years.
Good to see there was no cheating either.....

http://www.waitematamcc.co.nz/results.php

[vazza]

Haha, it was pretty funny on the second to last lap, I was about 20 metres away from the scanning area and I was trying to overtake a dude but it took me completely off track, outside of the fence. Geez that was embarassing, everyone saw it to!! I think billaroo laughed at me hahah

cheers cam! ^_^

[billaroo]

Haha, it was pretty funny on the second to last lap, I was about 20 metres away from the scanning area and I was trying to overtake a dude but it took me completely off track, outside of the fence. Geez that was embarassing, everyone saw it to!! I think billaroo laughed at me hahah

cheers cam! ^_^

absolutely- first you sandbag in the clubmen class then get lost in the scoring chute.....

[vazza]

absolutely- first you sandbag in the clubmen class then get lost in the scoring chute.....

Haha! To be honest I thought Clubman was below Expert, it was the same for the 2man and the GNCC. But thats all good.. Will remember for next time!!

[A&R]

Well done everyone. See your mate steve price was there again ktmboy!
well done vazza.
Sorry rupe - next time i'll make it.
guess i'll have to do it next year.

what you coming up ar WMCC next Billaroo?

[billaroo]

Well done everyone. See your mate steve price was there again ktmboy!
well done vazza.
Sorry rupe - next time i'll make it.
guess i'll have to do it next year.

what you coming up ar WMCC next Billaroo?


nice english- trail ride september 13 at woodhill then riverhead midwinter trail ride (pussy pounder) on september 20

[vazza]

Billaroo, any word on photos from the event? Contacted the photographer from kiwirider but he said the photos will be used in their magazine...

[takitimu]

Billaroo, any word on photos from the event? Contacted the photographer from kiwirider but he said the photos will be used in their magazine...

Aw :(, if it's who I think it was he had a really fast flash, got two of me within a second, whether I'd want anyone to see them is another story.

[A&R]

nice english- trail ride september 13 at woodhill then riverhead midwinter trail ride (pussy pounder) on september 20

thanks for the info. yep wouldn't beleive i came from pommy land eh?!
have a touchy of the Barty!:blink:

[billaroo]

Aw :(, if it's who I think it was he had a really fast flash, got two of me within a second, whether I'd want anyone to see them is another story.

pics will go up on their website- some things take time.....

[takitimu]

pics will go up on their website- some things take time.....

Or as the cheese maker says, "the best things take time".

[peadub]

Dead toad Pics Link from WMCC site...


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41141979@N04/?saved=1

[vazza]

Very nice pics mate. Except I look downsydrome in mine haha!

[xen]

Thanks for the pix man!

[takitimu]

Really nice pic's.

Couple of questions for you

- would you mind if I used a couple of the photo's in a newsletter I do for Northland ? ( Mitchell & Damon shots )

- Any shots of no. 136 ?

Tks

Nigel

[eurodick]

anyone know where the pics of the 2nd round of the two man might be posted??? Like a dick I went solo... arggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh was like a rerun of the Toad was fun to be sure...:shutup:

[vazza]

In the other thread bud!