Good cunt

[SMOKEU]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2700723/Funeral-pallbearer-too-fast-for-police-radar

[p.dath]

Feelins like there should be a You Tube video for some reason.

[saltydog]

Head down tail up. Fuck the weenie coppers chasing him, they're nothing like Taliban are they?

[Blackshear]

This thread is useless without pictures. What a deceiving thread title.

Also, HIS DRIVING WAS APPALLING!
Careful, judge, you may be implying the coppers were worse :whistle:

EDIT: ONLY 200k's? Owners of Gsxr1000's report in. What's the speed showing on your speedo at the end of a small track straight?

[grusomhat]

Almost went to say he got off pretty good, but 9 months of no riding :shit:

[imdying]

GSXR1000s... doing naughty shite since aaages ago :D

[Fatjim]

Almost went to say he got off pretty good, but 9 months of no riding :shit:
No thats 9 months of not getting caught.

[Hazza]

Ahaha Good Shit :rockon:

[MIXONE]

I bet his grandad was proud...

[Dooly]

He prob was only in 2nd gear too.<_<

On yer champ.:Punk:

[Maha]

I have a question?

Why (if he was heading to Sanson) was he riding on Colyton rd heading for Kimbolton rd? (im assuming Kimbolton rd in near Kimbolton?)

[oldrider]

Dangerous driving?

Bullshit, he was obviously in complete control!

No one would be any the wiser but for busy bodies and Police who should have been solving crime somewhere else!

OK, so he broke the speed limit but he arrived safe and sound at his destination and nobody else was hurt or inconvenienced. (some were outraged) :shit:

Speed limits are just numbers and have nothing to do with safety. :no:

Unfortunately the laws of the land (while sometimes meaningless) have to be obeyed or if caught paid. :mellow:

It is obvious that very few New Zealanders actually respect the speed limits and laws because so many of us break them. :Pokey:

[peasea]

Dangerous driving?

Bullshit, he was obviously in complete control!

No one would be any the wiser but for busy bodies and Police who should have been solving crime somewhere else!

OK, so he broke the speed limit but he arrived safe and sound at his destination and nobody else was hurt or inconvenienced. (some were outraged) :shit:

Speed limits are just numbers and have nothing to do with safety. :no:

Unfortunately the laws of the land (while sometimes meaningless) have to be obeyed or if caught paid. :mellow:

It is obvious that very few New Zealanders actually respect the speed limits and laws because so many of us break them. :Pokey:

My thoughts exactly.

[p.dath]

Almost went to say he got off pretty good, but 9 months of no riding :shit:

He can always ride off road ...

[Hiflyer]

Dangerous driving?

Speed limits are just numbers and have nothing to do with safety. :no:



exactly if they were to do with safety the limit everywhere would be 20 or 30 at the most... even then the airbag can break ur nose... (if ur in a car.)

[v8s&2wheels]

I find it very interesting that he was riding a '1999 blue-and-white 1000cc Suzuki GSXR.' When the first gsxr1000 was introduced in 2001.

Perhaps this could have got him off the fines and licence suspension.

[Timber020]

Well done that man, some good ole fashion non pc "I gotta be somewhere". Onward!

[cowboyz]

I have a question?

Why (if he was heading to Sanson) was he riding on Colyton rd heading for Kimbolton rd? (im assuming Kimbolton rd in near Kimbolton?)

kimbolton rd runs from kimbolton to feilding. He would have gone dannvegas, woodville, turn off to saddle, striaght through ashhurst, colyton, (kimbolton rd) bypass feilding and on to sanson. Good effort to do it in an hour but I surpose it could be done.

[Owl]

He prob was only in 2nd gear too.<_<

Yeah but could he stop in 2 meters from 60kph?:confused:

[Katman]

Meh, fucked if I'm going to praise him.

[McWild]

Meh, fucked if I'm going to praise him.

I agree.

I understand that he needed to be somewhere.

But overtaking on a blind corner. I feel as though his granddad and family wouldn't have wanted any more funeral arrangements to be necessary.

[hayd3n]

He can always ride off road ...

or on the track

[SMOKEU]

Yeah but could he stop in 2 meters from 60kph?:confused:

It's easy to stop from 60kmh in 2 metres; simply crash into a solid object such as a truck or a wall.

[HungusMaximist]

The fact of the matter is, nobody got hurt.

Good cunt indeed!

[McWild]

Various people
Nobody got hurt

But it's all good to have a rant about cars crossing the centreline in the favourite twisties?

I fail to see how it becomes more acceptable to put others' lives at risk simply because it was a rider doing so.
What if you or a buddy were coming the other way on that blind corner, would you consider the fact that nobody could have gotten hurt if the timing was a little different, or do you think, "way to fuck up multiple people's lives random GSXR rider"?

Quite frankly if one of my friends got taken out by somebody riding like a nutcase round a blind corner I don't think I'd take to well to hearing that they were doing so to get to a funeral.

Better late than not at all.

[oldrider]

Quite often I take my wife to church on the bike (27km) and when we are late I seize the opportunity to "hurry". :shutup:

One such day following a maximum burst of "hurry", she commented that we sure got there in real quick time! :done:

I made the comment that it does seem kinda ridiculous though, doesn't it! :shifty:

She asked why? :confused:

I replied, going that fast for an appointment with somebody who has been dead for over 2000 years! :rolleyes:

She hadn't thought of it like that, :no: Things we do! :shit:

I have lost my excuse for hurrying now! :doh:

[Donor]

OK, so he broke the speed limit but he arrived safe and sound at his destination and nobody else was hurt or inconvenienced.

...and if he HADN'T arrived safe and sound?

If he'd plowed at close to 200km/h into a mini bus of WW2 vets returning from a field trip to the local fish hook museum?

This country is full of optimists - 'it won't happen to me, and if it does, well, she'll be right!'

When it all goes wrong, it leaves a big fucking mess.

Frankly the point has been missed here, that the only 'good cunt' in this story is the judge - and I can't be sure I agree with that either, I think he was a soft cunt.

[Katman]

I fail to see how it becomes more acceptable to put others' lives at risk simply because it was a rider doing so.
What if you or a buddy were coming the other way on that blind corner, would you consider the fact that nobody could have gotten hurt if the timing was a little different, or do you think, "way to fuck up multiple people's lives random GSXR rider"?




...and if he HADN'T arrived safe and sound?

If he'd plowed at close to 200km/h into a mini bus of WW2 vets returning from a field trip to the local fish hook museum?




The concept of 'consequences' all too often falls on deaf ears on this site.

Those who praise motorcyclists for the very same actions that they would condemn a car driver for should take a good hard look at themselves.

[oldrider]

...and if he HADN'T arrived safe and sound?
If he'd plowed at close to 200km/h into a mini bus of WW2 vets returning from a field trip to the local fish hook museum?

That would be dangerous driving but he didn't do that did he, he arrived safely at his destination, as intended!

I didn't say he was a "good cunt", I just don't agree that speeding is necessarily dangerous driving!

If I went out on a race track and tried to foot it with the guys on the track, that would be "dangerous driving" whatever the speed!

Speed limits are a mandatory one size fits all bullshit rules.

Almost every driver disrespects them and breaks them at some time, because it is bullshit.

A speeding (dangerous?) driver attacked me one day because I overtook him and stopped further down the road.

He was outraged because I was travelling faster (more dangerously) than him! (both of us were breaking the law)

It really depends upon peoples own perception of the degree of danger, when it comes to "speed"! :confused:

[Katman]

I just don't agree that speeding is necessarily dangerous driving!


Even I have never argued that exceeding the speed limit is necessarily dangerous. It's the manner in which it's done that counts.

However, the combination of overtaking on blind corners, the fact that he was clearly trying to evade the police and hitting speeds probably in excess of 200kph all go together to indicate a manner of riding that quite clearly could be deemed dangerous.

Anyone that defends that manner of riding is on very shaky ground.

[oldrider]

Even I have never argued that exceeding the speed limit is necessarily dangerous. It's the manner in which it's done that counts.

However, the combination of overtaking on blind corners, the fact that he was clearly trying to evade the police and hitting speeds probably in excess of 200kph all go together to indicate a manner of riding that quite clearly could be deemed dangerous.

Anyone that defends that manner of riding is on very shaky ground.

My point was that if you remove the people being overtaken and the police from the equation, he arrived at his planned destination safe and well.

Who would have ever known the difference?

How much truth is there in the other factors?

What was the real element of danger compared to the reporters (other drivers and police) perception of danger?

Bearing in mind that their own perception is their reality and they were "outraged" :mad: by the rider's actions! (no bias there, no porkies?)

Have you never heard some driver accuse another of behaving dangerously when there was really no danger at all, except in their "own" mind.

Everyone's perception of danger is different, especially when they are accusing another of doing it! (they were outraged :mad: remember, no bias, no porkies)

Again, I stress, nothing happened, he arrived at his destination fit and well, as intended so his speed is irrelevant.

The real question is, was he very wise and did he do our (motorcycling) cause any favours? NO, he was a prize prat! (IMHO anyway)

[MDR2]

The fact of the matter is, nobody got hurt.

this time

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[ital916]

remove the "good"

Title of the thread should be "cunt",

he made it there safely,

What if there was a bike on that corner, to put it in terms bikers would understand; cars dont seem to register the situation in this thread.

A bike on bike head on, what a "good cunt" he would be then.

[Fatjim]

Ten to one this is a beat up.

[Gremlin]

I won't bother wading into the normal debate... but there is no way he can go off police radar at only 200kph. I would imagine they simply couldn't get a fix on him... A good fix will still be able register speeds close to 300...

Is there a point to this... no not really, just pointing out an obvious error... :rolleyes:

[dangerous]

"Hickford-Page overtook numerous cars on a blind bend before Woodville, and it was the driver of one of these who was able to do what police apparently couldn't make a note of his licence plate number"

I agree... the CAR DRIVER is a 'GOOD CUNT'

I cant believe you people suporting this fuck nuckle... how many bikers dead this year mostly due to head ons? what if you and you family were to come around the 'blind bend'

Hickford-Page, was very lucky not to be on the way to his own funeral, get a grip on reaility people that news report waent a fictional movie.

[madbikeboy]

I agree with Donor and KM on this one.

200 kph on the back straight of puke would be the equivalent of holding up traffic. 200 kph on a public road with demons in his head; moronic.

[Genestho]

Ugh

I do not support this idiot. What a selfish wanker.

Fantastic excuse...emotionally charged day, blah blah blah...

How is it other peoples emotional days, involve potentially or actually killing other families members, causing them to have emotional lives????
(I've heard this excuse a million times, sorry I killed your daughter cause my Mums got Cancer...etc etc)

Today it's excusable because he arrived alive, and no-one innocent was affected?:bash:

Yet if he killed himself and others by the same actions, what would the title of this thread be then?

Of 34 Motorcycling fatalities this year, only FOUR were not the Riders fault.

Passing on blind corners? Mint. Just what we need more of.

[oldrider]

"Hickford-Page overtook numerous cars on a blind bend before Woodville, and it was the driver of one of these who was able to do what police apparently couldn't make a note of his licence plate number"

I agree... the CAR DRIVER is a 'GOOD CUNT'

I cant believe you people suporting this fuck nuckle... how many bikers dead this year mostly due to head ons? what if you and you family were to come around the 'blind bend'

Hickford-Page, was very lucky not to be on the way to his own funeral, get a grip on reaility people that news report waent a fictional movie.

Congratulations Katman :niceone: You have yourself a new southern deciple "Brother Dangerous". :yes: Whoever would have thunk that! :woohoo:

[dangerous]

Congratulations Katman :niceone: You have yourself a new southern deciple "Brother Dangerous". :yes: Whoever would have thunk that! :woohoo:
You know me well enough to know were I stand un this sort of shit... and I was posting such years before KatMan showed up.

the more i think about it the more I cant believe that people put running from the coppers rateable over idiotacy and possible death.

[madbikeboy]

what I find interesting is that the article mentioned a stupidly small fine, and a 6 month stand-down (aka the period for which you can't get caught riding or you get a little fine to add to the $4 per week payments to the court).

[Fatjim]

One man's blind corner is another's clear road.

[cheesemethod]

Judge Gerard Lynch said Hickford-Page's driving had been "appalling".
Ok, so his decision making may have been appalling, but clearly his "driving" was quite good cause he made it.

Does it piss anybody else off when the media refer to riding as driving? Or is that just me?

[dangerous]

Okbut clearly his "driving" was quite good cause he made it. farking crap... he made it cos someone was looking down on him and every other road user that day... luck simple as that


One man's blind corner is another's clear road.... to heaven or hell?

[cheesemethod]

farking crap... he made it cos someone was looking down on him and every other road user that day... luck simple as that

Actually I'm completely with you, I think the dude is an idiot - I'm not sure what kind of person it takes to risk killing himself and others on the day of a family funeral. Hard to portray sarcasim over the internet. <_<

[gwigs]

I wonder how many people would secretly love to outrun the :Police:
It would be a real adrenalin rush.....
I know I would :blip: ......But its a secret sshh :shutup:

[scumdog]

Gee, I have just come back from that area, hmm:shutup:

I wish more people would do runners, it might make the job more interesting.....

[scumdog]

Ok, so his decision making may have been appalling, but clearly his "driving" was quite good cause he made it.

Just like a Lotto winner is a quite good gambler 'cos he won lotto....this rider was lucky more than good - the best rider can still get cleaned up by bad luck - and his own idiocy.

(lord spare me from those that think as you do)

[Timber020]

If we are all just careful enough, nothing bad or good will happen in our lives, and we will die anyway. The only thing worse than dying pointlessly is to live pointlessly.

The people on here that have never broken the speed limit or never done anything dangerous, should get on your soap boxes and declare to all loudly what you think of his actions.

The rest should just sit there and listen to them

Bet this would make for some real "quiet time"

[scracha]

I take fatjim's POV. Overtaking on blind corner is stupid.....but you're all assuming this involved him using the other side of the road and that from the bikers position it was actually "blind". He can't have been going THAT fast or crazy as the car driver was able to get his plate.

I suspect he'll be abroad for a large portion of his license suspension anyhoo.

[MaxB]

I reckon what he did was dumb. Running from the cops is dumb.

But why riders continue to run maybe explained by something told to me a supplier I met on Friday. I asked where his brother was 'cos he is into bikes and we like a yarn. 'Off licking his wounds' he said.

He was stopped doing a big speed but not before it took him a few ks to stop. In court he got done for speeding and failure to stop. A 28 day walk, over 3k in fines 50 points but no further ban. Same day, same court a woman in a SUV pulls out of a park and hits a car injuring the driver then drives on the wrong side of the road and hits someone getting out of a parked car.

She drives off and is later caught by the cops at home. Careless use causing injury and failure to stop. What do you think she got? $1750 in fines and some points but no ban. It is the courts not the cops.

So the moral is: if you you are going to do a runner it is better to put a few people in hospital and drive an SUV than not injure anyone but ride a bike.

[mowgli]

My point was that if you remove the people being overtaken and the police from the equation, he arrived at his planned destination safe and well.
Trouble is the law won't let you remove the people from the equation. The Act: "A person may not drive a motor vehicle, or cause a motor vehicle to be driven, at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person." You don't have to crash to be considered dangerous by the courts. The lad is both very lucky and a prat.