Post Office, a thieving directory?

[bogan]

Firstly is it true that if you get a vehicles number plate you can then go to the post office an obtain the address? Ive heard it often said that thats all it takes.

If so it seems well stupid, Mr Theify sees a bike he likes, gets rego, goes to post office, goes to address obtained at post office, takes bike.

[NighthawkNZ]

Firstly is it true that if you get a vehicles number plate you can then go to the post office an obtain the address? Ive heard it often said that thats all it takes.

If so it seems well stupid, Mr Theify sees a bike he likes, gets rego, goes to post office, goes to address obtained at post office, takes bike.

Use to be able to do that but hopefully they have closed the loop hole...

[bogan]

Use to be able to do that but hopefully they have closed the loop hole...

Hopefully, otherwise I might have to obscure my plate, for security reasons rather than speeding reasons :shifty:

[marty]

my vehicles are all registered to my work address

[steve_t]

I think you still can do this for a fee. Don't register your bike at your home if possible.
And the privacy act means you can't find out who has used this service to get your information :2guns: But if your bike gets nicked, I'm sure the cops can find out who has accessed this data and investigate
I think there's been a few threads covering this previously

[2wheeldrifter]

As far as I know (which is fuck all) they still do, you have to fill out a forum I think...........

[mossy1200]

Firstly is it true that if you get a vehicles number plate you can then go to the post office an obtain the address? Ive heard it often said that thats all it takes.

If so it seems well stupid, Mr Theify sees a bike he likes, gets rego, goes to post office, goes to address obtained at post office, takes bike.
My wife works NZ Post and the details are you can request address but to do so you need photo ID in form of Drivers Licence or Passport and fill in all forms to do so(cost $2.25).NZ Post land transport requests are linked . This means there is records of who is checking out your vehicle.These records go directly to land transport and can be accessed when a vehicle is stolen.It is not a good method of tracking a vehicle you intend to pinch.Your automatically flagged if that vehicle gets reported stolen.

[bsasuper]

Cost $3 i think,or get a vir for $25, its also possible to change someones rego address without them knowing, thank the ltsa

[steve_t]

My wife works NZ Post and the details are you can request address but to do so you need photo ID in form of Drivers Licence or Passport and fill in all forms to do so(cost $2.25).This means there is records of who is checking out your vehicle.These records go dirrectly to land transport and can be accessed when a vehicle is stolen.It is not a good method of tracking a vehicle you intend to pinch.Your automatically flagged if that vehicle gets reported stolen.

Easy workaround. Get someone else to fill in the forms etc. Or fill them in yourself and make sure you have a good alibi with time stamped video footage while your crim buddies nick the bike/car :shifty:

[bogan]

My wife works NZ Post and the details are you can request address but to do so you need photo ID in form of Drivers Licence or Passport and fill in all forms to do so(cost $2.25).NZ Post land transport requests are linked . This means there is records of who is checking out your vehicle.These records go directly to land transport and can be accessed when a vehicle is stolen.It is not a good method of tracking a vehicle you intend to pinch.Your automatically flagged if that vehicle gets reported stolen.

aha, that makes a lot more sense.

[mossy1200]

Cost $3 i think,or get a vir for $25, its also possible to change someones rego address without them knowing, thank the ltsa
To do this you need to transfer the vehicle to your name first.This means they know who you are and ownership change is not offical untill the sellers form MR13B form is sent in.The seller gets posted a reminder if it isnt done so will report that they still own car and the person who tried to do this goes up for fraud charges.

[nosebleed]

Never used it myself, but yes the service is available.

Used to be $2.00 or something, the rego number, and you're away.
Now I think there may be a form to complete, and a licence to produce as well.

Remember tho that companies like used car dealerships have accounts with the PO for this service, and crim's usually have 'hook-ups' for things they need. So contacting a 'friend' with this account eliminates the need for forms and I.D's

[mossy1200]

Easy workaround. Get someone else to fill in the forms etc. Or fill them in yourself and make sure you have a good alibi with time stamped video footage while your crim buddies nick the bike/car :shifty:
get your mate flagged for theft.I like that.

[steve_t]

get your mate flagged for theft.I like that.

Nah, I'm sure some dumbass 16 or 17 year old school boy/girl would do it for you for $50 cash :shifty:
That's fill in the forms.... not other things u dirty minded people :shutup:

[Swoop]

The "Post Office" aka Postshop.

They do everything except make it easy to actually "post" something.

[mossy1200]

Nah, I'm sure some dumbass 16 or 17 year old school boy/girl would do it for you for $50 cash :shifty:
That's fill in the forms.... not other things u dirty minded people :shutup:

Im twice that age and cheeper..
Fill in forms I mean.The rest is free

[kevfromcoro]

I work away alot... in january i went to taranki...
down there for 3 months... so i got my mail rederedicted.
that will take 3 working days says the PO.
n
i was down there for 3 months.. on the last day i got 3 letters.
so i come home. please send my mail back says me..
ok sir ...fill out this form....
ok.... another form..who owns the house... how long are you going to be there.
whats the size of your grandmothers left shoe.
so iam back.. no mail.
by this time in nearlly in tears.
just send my mail home..
they rang me on my cell.... excuse me.whats your adress.
f......ck here we go again....
well now nearlly august.. and i have just started receiving my mail.
christ.. wont do that again.

[oldrider]

I work away alot... in january i went to taranki...
down there for 3 months... so i got my mail rederedicted.
that will take 3 working days says the PO.
n
i was down there for 3 months.. on the last day i got 3 letters.
so i come home. please send my mail back says me..
ok sir ...fill out this form....
ok.... another form..who owns the house... how long are you going to be there.
whats the size of your grandmothers left shoe.
so iam back.. no mail.
by this time in nearlly in tears.
just send my mail home..
they rang me on my cell.... excuse me.whats your adress.
f......ck here we go again....
well now nearlly august.. and i have just started receiving my mail.
christ.. wont do that again.

Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to be going through a rough patch Kevfromkoro!

Well if that is true I sure hope things pick up for you, sooner rather than later! Good luck. :niceone: Cheers, John.

[geoffm]

I think you still can do this for a fee. Don't register your bike at your home if possible.
And the privacy act means you can't find out who has used this service to get your information :2guns: But if your bike gets nicked, I'm sure the cops can find out who has accessed this data and investigate
I think there's been a few threads covering this previously

One minor problem with this theory. In my experience, the cops won't ever investigate or even bother to take the details of a car breakin or theft. It won't matter if the Post Office had a signed and witnessed confession of what the crim wanted the info for...
Not that i am bitter or anything...
Geoff

[mossy1200]

One minor problem with this theory. In my experience, the cops won't ever investigate or even bother to take the details of a car breakin or theft. It won't matter if the Post Office had a signed and witnessed confession of what the crim wanted the info for...
Not that i am bitter or anything...
Geoff
NZ Post,Land transport and police are linked and it will blackflag if stolen.
They tend to do something if its easy enough.

[Hitcher]

If so it seems well stupid, Mr Theify sees a bike he likes, gets rego, goes to post office, goes to address obtained at post office, takes bike.

Omigod! How terrible! How the the Police and NZ Post haven't thought of this beggars belief. Maybe they're all in cahoots with insurance companies. There must be thousands of bikes stolen through this obvious loophole each year. Maybe all of our bikes have been stolen, resprayed had their clocks rewound and sold to us as new? The consequences of this are too horrible to contemplate.

[bogan]

Omigod! How terrible! How the the Police and NZ Post haven't thought of this beggars belief. Maybe they're all in cahoots with insurance companies. There must be thousands of bikes stolen through this obvious loophole each year. Maybe all of our bikes have been stolen, resprayed had their clocks rewound and sold to us as new? The consequences of this are too horrible to contemplate.

pffft, cos the government and police have never overlooked shit before?

[ready4whatever]

probably easier and safer to just walk down the street and see a bike you like. but im not giving tips away, id hate for mine or any other biker's bike to get stolen.
we just had a tonne of stainless steel and aluminium pipes stolen from the farm. what a piss-off. cops arent doing shit for us either

[Lurch]

lol. You guys live in some kind of dreamland.

Anyone can go to www.carjam.co.nz from even a web capable mobile phone and get a registered name and address of any plate in seconds...

For free.

If I pay 10 bucks I can find out if you owe money on it and how many owners/k's etc its done.

Post office. pfft.

[jetboy]

Cost $3 i think,or get a vir for $25, its also possible to change someones rego address without them knowing, thank the ltsa
Funilly enough it's also possible to complete a change of ownership without the owner of the vehicle knowing!

[TLMAN]

lol. You guys live in some kind of dreamland.

Anyone can go to www.carjam.co.nz from even a web capable mobile phone and get a registered name and address of any plate in seconds...

For free.

If I pay 10 bucks I can find out if you owe money on it and how many owners/k's etc its done.

Post office. pfft.

For a $5 credit card fee you can find out the owner details.

The free information is basically the WOF,REG and ODO and plate history.

[bogan]

lol. You guys live in some kind of dreamland.

Anyone can go to www.carjam.co.nz from even a web capable mobile phone and get a registered name and address of any plate in seconds...

For free.

If I pay 10 bucks I can find out if you owe money on it and how many owners/k's etc its done.

Post office. pfft.

hmmm, thats a little scary, and reading thier privacy policy is more than a little unnerving.


Personal information will not be released to third parties except to further the purpose for which you provide the information, or if release is required by law or is pertinent to judicial or governmental investigations or proceedings.

No flags would be raised if a buyers report had been purchased, then the bike was stolen it would seem.

[Hitcher]

lol. You guys live in some kind of dreamland.

Anyone can go to www.carjam.co.nz from even a web capable mobile phone and get a registered name and address of any plate in seconds...

For free.

Bullshit. You've never been to carjam, clearly.

[imdying]

lol. You guys live in some kind of dreamland.

Anyone can go to www.carjam.co.nz from even a web capable mobile phone and get a registered name and address of any plate in seconds...

For free.

If I pay 10 bucks I can find out if you owe money on it and how many owners/k's etc its done.

Post office. pfft.

Enjoy your red muppet :yes:

[Lurch]

Enjoy your red muppet :yes:

:yes: Thanks! I showed you a bit of love in return.

Anyway I did have a bit of a random rant, admittedly it was from my phone so I didn't check the carjam prices again (damn single tabbed browser). I was a bit surprised that people didn't know you could get this information quickly and easily, I stand corrected on the price.

[rosie631]

I ran a carjam check on the bike I just bought. $12 I think. Gave names and suburbs of previous and current owner. Don't think it gave actual street address but easy enough to look up in phone book when you have name and suburb. I think it's bullshit. Makes it real easy for the bike thieves.

[Hitcher]

Makes it real easy for the bike thieves.

I think that that is an urban myth. Most thieves of motor vehicles (with a few exceptions) are opportunistic, illiterate, knuckle-dragging oxygen thieves. The key word there is illiterate. It is hardly likely that they have ability to read, let alone how to operate a device with an associated web browser.

I have yet to see anybody present any evidence that supports the claim that nickers of other people's bikes trawl motor vehicle registration databases to find out where a bike may be parked up.

If I wanted to thieve off with a bike, I would be hard pressed to go past the buffet of bikes on offer on bike parking ranks around this city. All I would need would be a furniture removal trailer from Hire Pool and I'd be in business.

[vifferman]

I don't know it it's been passed into law yet, but there's a bill before parliament to change things so that it is no longer possible to obtain address details from a car registration number.
AFAIK, the intent was not so much to lower the risk of car thefts, but to stop people using it for 'road rage research'.