Sprotbike vs HD debate

[MadDuck]

Lets take it away from he emotive thread of R1.

I bought a HD because it suited me and my riding style - ok I am short and slow. I have been on KB for a few weeks now and just dont get the anti-harley thing that seems to be going on.

Would someone please give me a logical debate as to why the negativity?

[Maha]

Your Sporty is a very cool bike and we all know that Hondas are not gay....:no:

[MadDuck]

we all know that Hondas are not gay....:no:

Yes we do all know that.....

[98tls]

Lets take it away from he emotive thread of R1.

I bought a HD because it suited me and my riding style - ok I am short and slow. I have been on KB for a few weeks now and just dont get the anti-harley thing that seems to be going on.

Would someone please give me a logical debate as to why the negativity? Nothing to be bothered with really mate,theres some on here that confuse a motorcycle website with a game on there playstation,devoid of any real motorcycling experiance they just tap away truely believing the tripe they tap to be real.:blink:Just the way it tis these day.

[nallac]

Your Sporty is a very cool bike and we all know that Hondas are not gay....:no:


yes to the first part. Hell no to the second....

[MadDuck]

theres some on here that confuse a motorcycle website with a game on there playstation,devoid of any real motorcycling experiance they just tap away truely believing the tripe they tap to be real.:blink:Just the way it tis these day.

Hmmm.... yes I think maybe you have a point. Maybe they forget that we are real people that ride HDs too.

[98tls]

Hmmm.... yes I think maybe you have a point. Maybe they forget that we are real people that ride HDs too. Typical........give you lot an inch you'll take a mile:laugh:

[MadDuck]

Typical........give you lot an inch you'll take a mile:laugh:

Shit would have been happy with a foot :blink:

[AllanB]

Hi there - a bloody good question as that thread got sooooo way out of line.

I live on the main road heading out to Taipupu (thus Akaroa) and get to witness all brands of bikes heading past my house.

Incidentally I've found stopping for a coffee at Little River a great spot to meet riders of all brands happy for a chat about bikes.

Rest assured regardless of what is ridden there are plenty of knobs speeding, passing on a blind corner and generally being foolish.

Harley bashing?
It means nothing, mostly it's just light hearted banter in the same vein as Hondas are gay, Suzukis crash, Kawasakis blow up, Ducatis cost a fortune to maintain, Triumphs leak oil ............

And then there are the KB windup artists ............ who enjoy nothing better than slagging off someones choice of ride to get a bit of bitch-slapping going for a few pages.

Personally I'd rather debate exactly what makes the 'best pie' as I have found the smokey pork & water cress pie from Hilmorton Bakery in Coppel Place extremely good, but also thoroughly enjoy the Venison pie Hellyers of Lincoln make.

[98tls]

Shit would have been happy with a foot :blink: LOL,had Mr Kichaha call in here the other day on his way home,he warned me about you "unruly ones".

[98tls]

Personally I'd rather debate exactly what makes the 'best pie' as I have found the smokey pork & water cress pie from Hilmorton Bakery in Coppel Place extremely good, but also thoroughly enjoy the Venison pie Hellyers of Lincoln make. Bugger pies mate,"Jimmy pasties" are the go.

[MadDuck]

LOL,had Mr Kichaha call in here the other day on his way home,he warned me about you "unruly ones".

He lies...he lies alot. He rides one of them side car thingies...he lies a lot!

[Headbanger]

I have been on KB for a few weeks now and ......


1500 posts in a few weeks?

Hell, I've been here for a few years,always posting dribble, and I'm still laggng behind.

ah...what was the question?

[MadDuck]

I have been here for a few years,always posting dribble, and I'm still laggng behind.

ah...what was the question?

geez been here since 2003 ...was a piss take

[AllanB]

Bugger pies mate,"Jimmy pasties" are the go.

Funny you mention that as I was only told about them a week ago. Apparently they have not made it as far north as Christchurch yet, but on my next southern trip I intend to consume one (at least).

You do realise that on KB pasties are probably a poofters pie .....:laugh::laugh:

[MadDuck]

Can send a few up if need be mate,as for KB and faggots:laugh:no doubt,what i find more amusing is that theres a few regular posters of anal crap on here that wouldnt know one end of a motorcycle from the other,wont be so rude as to post names but Sixcocksanight comes to mind,shame really as he has such a nice wife.Doh.......off topic,sorry.

How dare you sabotarge my thread you pie munchers!

[Big Dave]

Don't panic.

[MadDuck]

Don't panic.

OK I wont.

[98tls]

OK I wont. Phew................

[Big Dave]

You want a serious comment.

I have seen both deplorable and exemplary behavior from riders on all types of bikes - from sportsbikes to choppers. Hate the player, not the game.

The debate is a paraphrase of George Carlin's line about driving. 'Everyone going slower than you is an idiot, everyone going faster than you is an asshole.

[onearmedbandit]

Seems to me that you've got more of a problem with 'sprotsbike' riders than they have with HD's lol. Who really gives a flying fuck what you choose to ride. And if someone decides to judge someone solely by the bike they ride then their opinion isn't worth shit.

Get over it all and enjoy the ride. Fuck me, life is too short for this wah wah wah shit.

Oh yeah, I bit. Just because I hate sterotypes and people who push them.

[R1madness]

Lets take it away from he emotive thread of R1.

I bought a HD because it suited me and my riding style - ok I am short and slow. I have been on KB for a few weeks now and just dont get the anti-harley thing that seems to be going on.

Would someone please give me a logical debate as to why the negativity?

Its inverted backlash to generations of JAP CRAP bashing from the leaking oil brigade of the 70s and 80s. Do you have any idea how hard it was working on "Club members" bikes at a Harley Davidson shop monday to friday while riding to work on a Yamaha FZR750 and racing one in the weekends as well??? No wonder i have an identity crisis...:confused:

[R1madness]

But lets face it mostly it is just said in fun these days, the real hardcore attitudes have mostly gone even amongst the "club" scene. Lots of them now ride Aprilla or KTM or such as well as Vrods and "normal" HDs.

I get to ride so many different bikes there is fun in all of them, even a scooter can be a good laugh if you let it...

[ajturbo]

ok... but what about the cool guys who ride sporty H-D's?...

like me?

[slowpoke]

You want a serious comment.

I have seen both deplorable and exemplary behavior from riders on all types of bikes - from sportsbikes to choppers. Hate the player, not the game.

The debate is a paraphrase of George Carlin's line about driving. 'Everyone going slower than you is an idiot, everyone going faster than you is an asshole.


Seems to me that you've got more of a problem with 'sprotsbike' riders than they have with HD's lol. Who really gives a flying fuck what you choose to ride. And if someone decides to judge someone solely by the bike they ride then their opinion isn't worth shit.

Get over it all and enjoy the ride. Fuck me, life is too short for this wah wah wah shit.

Oh yeah, I bit. Just because I hate sterotypes and people who push them.

With comments like those you guys are way too smart to be riding motorcycles......

[usa-vtwin]

What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a collective IQ of 120?
Sturgis !

What's the difference between a Harley Davidson and a Hoover vacuum cleaner?
The Harley has room for two dirtbags on board.

Why do Harley owners have tassels on their handlebars and clothing?
To be able to tell if they're moving or not !

How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog?
They both like to ride in the back of pickup trucks.

What is the difference between a Harley Davidson and an old dog?
The dog can get in the back of the pickup by itself.

How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine?
Both have pricks on their back.

How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog?
If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both mark their territory.

:girlfight: :girlfight: :girlfight: :girlfight: :girlfight: :girlfight: :girlfight:

[crazyhorse]

I have no personal thing against any rider - you're out there doing it..... isn't that all that matters??

But.... when you are not allowed to ride with certain clubs, because you own a jap bike (and I've now found out that HD's are full of jap parts :rofl:), and they don't consider lifting their hand to give you a polite wave, it really is no wonder why attitudes are out there.

They have HOG rallies - do other brands of motorcycles go? NO, of course not - you'd be laughed at. We have rallies, and don't care who comes along. The more the merrier :lol:

So all in all, I think the attitude of HD riders stem from many years ago.

We're all riders out having fun, and I talk and ride with everyone I meet, regardless of who owns what :motu:

[Bleck K6]

just buy both and give everyone shit hahaha.

[SilverGrin]

Jimmy's do a really nice mutton pie too.

:whistle:

[crazyhorse]

Jimmy's do a really nice mutton pie too.

:whistle:

Jackson's in Havelock North won 2 Gold Awards :first:

[Kickaha]

Don't panic.

forty two..

[rosie631]

They have HOG rallies - do other brands of motorcycles go? NO, of course not - you'd be laughed at. We have rallies, and don't care who comes along. The more the merrier :lol:



Don't think they're only brand that does that. Seem to recall read up of Victory rally recently and Boulevard owners have their own runs I think. Triumph have their RAT rides etc, etc

[CookMySock]

I've never ridden a H-D, or any larger cruiser. I am not overtly taken with larger cruisers or any bike at all, but I quite like the idea - maybe just for something different. It might be I was completely converted to them once I rode it one time only.. who can tell these things.. I'll ride one and then I will know.

I don't think there is a debate between sprotsbikes and cruisers. I just think they are different, and their owners are passionate about their own bikes and culture.

What I worry about mainly, is being part of their culture, which I am emphatically not. I am warm, inclusive, safe, and caring - mostly vastly amusing attributes to be belittled by the cruiser culture - well that is my outside view of it from what I have been subject to.

Prove me wrong - I invite it.

Steve

[Headbanger]

The answer is simple, People are pecker heads.

Especially ricers.

Muhahahahahaha.

:banana::banana::banana:

[NighthawkNZ]

Don't think they're only brand that does that. Seem to recall read up of Victory rally recently and Boulevard owners have their own runs I think. Triumph have their RAT rides etc, etc

Rattly Tappits MotoGuzzi one, wouldn't be suprised if there is a Ducati one

and am sure there are others as well

[Hitcher]

"Harley Riders" is a pretty broad church of folks. It includes criminal gang elements who ride them like they stole them (because they probably have), to the "born again" bikers of similar vintage to me who ride them because they like them and can afford them. And a wide swadge of folks between these two extremes.

Harley Davidson is the world's most recognised motorcycle brand. Some people use Harley ownership to define themselves and their "lifestyles", others don't.

There are some absolutely top-draw folks out there who ride Harleys.

Remember that all generalisations are false -- including this one.

[Dooly]

Rattly Tappits MotoGuzzi one, wouldn't be suprised if there is a Ducati one

and am sure there are others as well

Yeah Ducati have a national rally, well the DOC, Ducati Owner's Club NZ.
Next year its in Clive HB, so I will attend.

Every Triumph RAT ride, at least here, I've been on, us Trumpies have been out numbered by other makes, but think at the big RAT rallies its restricted to Trumpies.

[Finn]

Yeah Ducati have a national rally, well the DOC, Ducati Owner's Club NZ.
Next year its in Clive HB, so I will attend.

Every Triumph RAT ride, at least here, I've been on, us Trumpies have been out numbered by other makes, but think at the big RAT rallies its restricted to Trumpies.

I attended the National Ducati Rally in 2007. I took my MV Agusta but it gets better... a mate's Duc broke down so I lent him my CBR. I felt like Cartman in a room full of Jews.

[cs363]

I don't give a rats behind what bike people ride, it is after all a personal choice. A bit of inter-brand rivalry and piss taking is fine, though some do take it way too far over the line, and of course others are overly sensitive.
I regularly ride with people with all kinds of brands from HD's through to the big four Japanese brands and none of us really cares who is riding what, we're more interested in the riding and the camaraderie.

[Dooly]

I attended the National Ducati Rally in 2007. I took my MV Agusta but it gets better... a mate's Duc broke down so I lent him my CBR. I felt like Cartman in a room full of Jews.

I bet that was fun!
Duc broke down...........never!!:lol:

[SixPackBack]

I don't give a rats behind what bike people ride, it is after all a personal choice. A bit of inter-brand rivalry and piss taking is fine, though some do take it way too far over the line, and of course others are overly sensitive.
I regularly ride with people with all kinds of brands from HD's through to the big four Japanese brands and none of us really cares who is riding what, we're more interested in the riding and the camaraderie.

You have friends?

[The Stranger]

Hardleys are an ideal machine - if I were afraid of corners and scared of speed I'd probably have one too.

[Finn]

Hardleys are an ideal machine - if I were afraid of corners and scared of speed I'd probably have one too.

Clearly you've never ridden a Hardley. If you had, you'd realise that riding one makes you more afraid of corners and speed.

[Bleck K6]

Hardleys are an ideal machine - if I were afraid of corners and scared of speed I'd probably have one too.

Well Im not afraid of corners and mine certainly gets around them allright. it tops out at 250kmh wich isnt bad considering my gsxr1000 will top out at 260kmh with the gearing im running.

[SixPackBack]

Well Im not afraid of corners and mine certainly gets around them allright. it tops out at 250kmh wich isnt bad considering my gsxr1000 will top out at 260kmh with the gearing im running.

Mate you should be ashamed....What self respecting 'king of bikes' rider doubles up on a tractor.

[Finn]

Mate you should be ashamed....What self respecting 'king of bikes' rider doubles up on a tractor.

One that wants to pick up chicks.

[Bleck K6]

haha well it all started once I got wheelstands sorted really,Needed to stop doing them everywhere,SH1 is no place for that carry on with all the cops around these days( you know all about them dont you),no self control
Plus you know we like riding all the back roads up here on our sportbikes. Needed another bike for the longer trips. Nothing wrong with havin 2 bikes.


Mate you should be ashamed....What self respecting 'king of bikes' rider doubles up on a tractor.

[SixPackBack]

...........Fishing with dynamite, I have to stop:cool:

I have ridden a V-rod and I was mightily impressed. Nice bike, the only cruiser on my desirables list.

[Big Dave]

What self respecting 'king of bikes' rider

Well call me a Cromwell.

[The Stranger]

...........Fishing with dynamite, I have to stop:cool:

I have ridden a V-rod and I was mightily impressed. Nice bike, the only cruiser on my desirables list.

Don't do it! I know you're upset right now sixpack, but punishing yourself by buying a hardley wont help matters.

[NOWOOL]

I think the put-downs on the Harley owners comes down to envy. same as the rust-bucket owners complaining about the BMW's and Mercedes' owners. If it makes them insecure then they bash it.
I'd be keen to own a sports bike if they were comfortable. Although they do give off the image of a someone still living with his parents.

[The Stranger]

Plus you know we like riding all the back roads up here on our sportbikes.

Why, when you have such a sorted hardley at your disposal?
Admit it, they corner like shit and to get anywhere near 250kph it would take at least 10k of engine mods (ok, I realise I'm being conservitive here)

[SixPackBack]

Don't do it! I know you're upset right now sixpack, but punishing yourself by buying a hardley wont help matters.

Sorry bro'...lost my way for a minute there. I think it was the thought of that fat ass seat...Perfect to rest upon after yet another arse reaming from the filth.

[Bleck K6]

The standard vrod top speed is 135mph and mine has airbox mod and powercommander.Have you ridden 1?

Why, when you have such a sorted hardley at your disposal?
Admit it, they corner like shit and to get anywhere near 250kph it would take at least 10k of engine mods (ok, I realise I'm being conservitive here)

[The Stranger]

The standard vrod top speed is 135mph and mine has airbox mod and powercommander.Have you ridden 1?

Nah, I lost interest in them at the night speed drag wars one evening when I saw a KBer on a Hyosung 650 beat one and come within .1 second of the night rod.
To be fair, they did do better burn outs than the hyobag.

[wysper]

Lets take it away from he emotive thread of R1.

I bought a HD because it suited me and my riding style - ok I am short and slow. I have been on KB for a few weeks now and just dont get the anti-harley thing that seems to be going on.

Would someone please give me a logical debate as to why the negativity?

Nice thread MadDuck.

Motorcycle cliques are funny things. I am currently on a SV (apparently it is a girls bike) but I have lots of fun on it.

I never thought I would own a harley. I believed the were tractors that handled really badly, would be stolen before I got to the door after I parked it at home for the first time and would cost a bomb to insure. Not to mention I couldn't afford one in the first place.

In the intervening years of motorcycling, harleys have got better (in my rather inexperienced opinon).

Now for my next bike I was looking at a cruiser (again). In the past I have ridden the jap cruisers - specifically Suzuki's. It was the 700 and then the 1400 cc intruder. I have test ridden the big Kwakkas as well. But they are a little boring.

So I thought I would look at the Triumph Speedmaster, and in looking found out the XL1200C was about the same price as the Trumpy. So next year I will have a decision to make.

I also understand the Sportsters are girls harleys - I can only imagine what is said of the speedmaster.

So no matter what you ride - someone is poking fun at it. For me while it is good natured it is all good. And if someone is really serious about it, I just nod, smile and ignore the fuck out of them.

[The Stranger]

I also understand the Sportsters are girls harleys - I can only imagine what is said of the speedmaster.



At 40 degree lean angle and 59.8" wheel base it's got to be the best handling harley by a long shot.

[wysper]

At 40 degree lean angle and 59.8" wheel base it's got to be the best handling harley by a long shot.

Yeah I haven't ridden one yet but the big block riders seem to look down on them. Horses for courses too. Seems like on NZ roads the Sportys would be a great choice.

[Deano]

I think the put-downs on the Harley owners comes down to envy. same as the rust-bucket owners complaining about the BMW's and Mercedes' owners. If it makes them insecure then they bash it.
I'd be keen to own a sports bike if they were comfortable. Although they do give off the image of a someone still living with his parents.

Err, wrong, wrong, and um, wrong.

Nice troll though.

This thread is pretty silly really.

It's all about the ride - whatever floats your boat.

[Bleck K6]

spot on mate:2thumbsup


Err, wrong, wrong, and um, wrong.

Nice troll though.

This thread is pretty silly really.

It's all about the ride - whatever floats your boat.

[Bleck K6]

All depends on the rider, My gsxr has done a 9.8 1/4 mile best I could manage there was 11, couldnt keep the front down.
When me, death.inc and others used to go to the night drags a mate of ours managed 10.01 on a standard TLS.




Nah, I lost interest in them at the night speed drag wars one evening when I saw a KBer on a Hyosung 650 beat one and come within .1 second of the night rod.
To be fair, they did do better burn outs than the hyobag.

[Deano]

All depends on the rider, My gsxr has done a 9.8 1/4 mile best I could manage there was 11, couldnt keep the front down.
When me, death.inc and others used to go to the night drags a mate of ours managed 10.01 on a standard TLS.

Shit that's good. Off the lights or go when you're ready ?

I did a 10.32 on my CBR1000RR, (go when you're ready start).

[Bleck K6]

From the lights, my gsxr used to be Mugins drag bike. The guy on the TLS is a friend of ours who used race motox with some of the best in NZ,Back when the king brothers were young



Shit that's good. Off the lights or go when you're ready ?

I did a 10.32 on my CBR1000RR, (go when you're ready start).

[James Deuce]

Tall Jan is malicious.

[peasea]

The answer is simple, People are pecker heads.

Especially ricers.

Muhahahahahaha.

:banana::banana::banana:
Dammit, must spread rep etc etc.

[Winston001]

Err, wrong, wrong, and um, wrong.

Nice troll though.

This thread is pretty silly really.

It's all about the ride - whatever floats your boat.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - its about people buying expensive chrome tractors which vibrate and are unsuited to New Zealand's epic roads. And purchasing the HD myth about American iron, the legend, "the road...(groan)", all the advertising hoopla which goes with the marque. :dodge:

Its just like American television shows. The gritty stuff is so earnest and full of moral lessons that they are shoved down the viewers throat. And the so-called comedies have a laugh track just to tell you when its funny......:Oi:

So it is with Harley Davidson. Their marketing and design departments have never heard the word "subtle". Nothing cannot be overstated. Everything has to shine and capture the rebel freedom dream, all available just down the road from your local dealer......:girlfight:


That's why kindly KBers try to educate those who have been hypnotised by the HD gotterdammerung. :Pokey:

[peasea]

From the lights, my gsxr used to be Mugins drag bike. The guy on the TLS is a friend of ours who used race motox with some of the best in NZ,Back when the king brothers were young

Martin Luther and Co.?

[AllanB]

I does occur to me in this fine debate that possibly I am smack-bang in the middle by riding a naked bike (Honda as it is).

Surely that's the best of both worlds by sitting more upright than a sport bike but less reclined than a cruiser.

And chaps on HD's and Triumphs often wave at me - I think as it's naked they mistake it for something non Japanese :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Winston001]

Ok.......maybe a Nightrod......possibly....at night......

[peasea]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - its about people buying expensive chrome tractors which vibrate and are unsuited to New Zealand's epic roads.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They make fucking marvellous tourers and actually ride quite smoothly. Believe what you will, I've covered tens of thousands of k's on HD's on NZ roads and all has been good. They can be loaded up with tents or whatever and take it all in their stride.

Sure, you don't get your knee down and all that sportsbike bollocks but that sort of pseudo-macho crap should be saved for the track anyway.:mad:

[The Stranger]

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They make fucking marvellous tourers and actually ride quite smoothly.

Yes, a tourer, in NZ great idea, what will you do on the third day?

[AllanB]

Sure, you don't get your knee down and all that sportsbike bollocks but that sort of pseudo-macho crap should be saved for the track anyway.:mad:

Possibly one of the better comments on this thread.

[peasea]

Yes, a tourer, in NZ great idea, what will you do on the third day?

Continue touring. If you can tour all of NZ in three days you're gonna miss shitloads.

Sorry? You ride a what?

[ManDownUnder]

it's all about those three little words we all love to hear... "Narrow" "Minded" and Bigotry".

Just makes me feel warm all over like I've peed meself...

[peasea]

it's all about those three little words we all love to hear... "Narrow" "Minded" and Bigotry".

That's just what I was thinking, bloody sportsbike riders.

[The Stranger]

Continue touring. If you can tour all of NZ in three days you're gonna miss shitloads.

Sorry? You ride a what?

The best of both worlds.
Either a FZ1 or an XT660X

[The Stranger]

That's just what I was thinking, bloody sportsbike riders.

They're bloody tossers aren't they?

[Big Dave]

Yes, a tourer, in NZ great idea, what will you do on the third day?

Westport to Dunedin.

[Molly]

I don't get it either. It's just prejudice at the end of the day. We all generalise then meet someone that forces us to question those generalisations. Then we see the HOG crowd go by like their shit doesn't stink and, well, it all starts again...

[peasea]

I don't get it either. It's just prejudice at the end of the day. We all generalise then meet someone that forces us to question those generalisations. Then we see the HOG crowd go by like their shit doesn't stink and, well, it all starts again...

Any takers on what HOG stands for?
Harley Owners Group.
Hairy Old Gits.
Hardly Out Groping
Hard On's Gone
Hold Our Gallbladder
Hate Our Grandchildren
Hang On Grandma
Have Odourous Groins
Hover Over Graves
Heat Our Goolies
High On Greyness
History On Glycerin
Holiday Outings Glamorized

[Winston001]

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They make fucking marvellous tourers and actually ride quite smoothly. Believe what you will, I've covered tens of thousands of k's on HD's on NZ roads and all has been good. They can be loaded up with tents or whatever and take it all in their stride.

Sure, you don't get your knee down and all that sportsbike bollocks but that sort of pseudo-macho crap should be saved for the track anyway.:mad:

Look you - I came here for a good argument - not abuse!! :crazy:

[Big Dave]

All the HOG people I have ridden with or had dealings with have been very nice and pleasant to me.

They promote safety and ride by the road rules and have some really spectacular bikes. They have my respecs.

[cs363]

All the HOG people I have ridden with or had dealings with have been very nice and pleasant to me.

They promote safety and ride by the road rules and have some really spectacular bikes. They have my respecs.

I've even ridden with BMW GS and Ural riders who were mostly quiet nice....
(As long as you kept them sedated - yes, you know who I'm talking about!! :lol:)

[AD345]

Ah Harleys...we love 'em.

In fact we love 'em so much we've even got an H-D owner in the Victory Riders.







The bikes were getting a bit dirty and we needed a prospect to clean them

[AD345]

**Seem to recall read up of Victory rally recently...**

really?

Dang!

missed it.

[eelracing]

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They make fucking marvellous tourers and actually ride quite smoothly. Believe what you will, I've covered tens of thousands of k's on HD's on NZ roads and all has been good. They can be loaded up with tents or whatever and take it all in their stride.

Sure, you don't get your knee down and all that sportsbike bollocks but that sort of pseudo-macho crap should be saved for the track anyway.:mad:

Bollox to that!

I would like to think that at the historic moment when two motorcyclists first met on the road... that the comments made were along the lines of "what speed does she do" and not "how many miles to the gallon".

Bikes have always been about speed/acceleration/handling etc otherwise they would never of progressed past the Harley/Indian 'mould'.

But was'nt it an Indian that won the first Isle of Mann?
Until lighter and faster Brit Singles took over.Then Italian fours,Japanese...

Progress eh? some just wanna live in denial.

[AllanB]

All the HOG people I have ridden with or had dealings with have been very nice and pleasant to me.

They promote safety and ride by the road rules and have some really spectacular bikes. They have my respecs.

Dave

You meet the nicest people on a Honda.

[MadDuck]

I would like to think that at the historic moment when two motorcyclists first met on the road... that the comments made were along the lines of "what speed does she do" and not "how many miles to the gallon".

Bikes have always been about speed/acceleration/handling etc otherwise they would never of progressed past the Harley/Indian 'mould'.


BOLLOX. The comment I mostly get is ..."cool bike". Had it long ;)

Ahhh wait edit: last weekend at Mangawhai Pub I got "wow cool bike". I said "thanks" guys says "pardon". I says "thanks". He looks at me and says he wasnt expecting a female voice from under all that leather .....

[Flip]

Harlies..... I love them, I would find it real hard to go back to a sports-touring bike after the Road King.
Harley owners are a varied bunch, you meet everything from a building labourer to the director of the reserve bank on one. While the sports bike riders all seem to have pimples and live at home.
Like with any group some most Harley riders are real nice folk while others are not, thats life, get over it.

[98tls]

Harlies..... I love them, I would find it real hard to go back to a sports-touring bike after the Road King.
Harley owners are a varied bunch, you meet everything from a building labourer to the director of the reserve bank on one. While the sports bike riders all seem to have pimples and live at home.
Like with any group some most Harley riders are real nice folk while others are not, thats life, get over it. About it.Sadly Though the only pimples i have are the ones that appear on rare occasions where my hair used to be,annoyingly every time it happens i think wahoo its a comin back:argh:sadly not.:whistle Fwiw a couple of mates are H fanatics and i have a late 60s (i think) Harley something or rather in the garage thats just had a disc conversion,not sure what the rest of the bikes out there think of it :whistle:but it will be back home with its owner soon so no matter.

[peasea]

Bollox to that!

I would like to think that at the historic moment when two motorcyclists first met on the road... that the comments made were along the lines of "what speed does she do" and not "how many miles to the gallon".

Bikes have always been about speed/acceleration/handling etc otherwise they would never of progressed past the Harley/Indian 'mould'.

But was'nt it an Indian that won the first Isle of Mann?
Until lighter and faster Brit Singles took over.Then Italian fours,Japanese...

Progress eh? some just wanna live in denial.

And others just don't have any taste.

[peasea]

BOLLOX. The comment I mostly get is ..."cool bike". Had it long ;)

Ahhh wait edit: last weekend at Mangawhai Pub I got "wow cool bike". I said "thanks" guys says "pardon". I says "thanks". He looks at me and says he wasnt expecting a female voice from under all that leather .....

He needs to get out more!

[peasea]

About it.Sadly Though the only pimples i have are the ones that appear on rare occasions where my hair used to be.

You used to have a hairy arse?

[Kickaha]

But was'nt it an Indian that won the first Isle of Mann?
Until lighter and faster Brit Singles took over.Then Italian fours,Japanese...


No it wasn't a Matchless won the single cylinder class and a Peugeot engined Norton won the Twins class

[98tls]

You used to have a hairy arse? If you can wait i will pick the right moment and ask..;)

[Subike]

I guess that my old girl is a bit of a cross between a sport bike and a tourer.
It was the quickest on the block when it was first released, but could also comfortably travel from one end of the country to the other leaving the rider feeling good at the end of the ride.
It is not a sports bike by todays standard, but was when It was new.
So where dose that put it in this discusion?
A sports bike has been refined over the years to be a purpous built machine, the intention to go as quick as possible with the minimum of fuss, with the best brakes and the best acceleration.
It should take its rider to the destination, or end of a race as fast as practicable.
A Harley on the other hand, has been refined to be the most comfortable of bikes, purpous built to takes its rider at a sedate speed with a good comfort level, able to carry enough baggage without compromising its performance, and leave the rider refreshed at the end of the journey able to spend a night in the pub talking shit.
The two bikes are so different from design and purpous that it is foolhardy to try and compare the two of them.
Also the riders of each mode are as different as the bikes.
They usually have very little in common, come from differing social backgrounds and if it was not for the fact they both ride bikes to ralleys, probably would never meet anywhere else in life.
But excemptions are always with us

[Bleck K6]

Dave

You meet the nicest people on a Honda.


Yeah but the honda riders cant sell all your p.

[popelli]

But was'nt it an Indian that won the first Isle of Mann?


no it was a norton

but harley was the first bike to crack the ton in the uk

[sinfull]

The two bikes are so different from design and purpous that it is foolhardy to try and compare the two of them.
Also the riders of each mode are as different as the bikes.
They usually have very little in common, come from differing social backgrounds and if it was not for the fact they both ride bikes to ralleys, probably would never meet anywhere else in life.
But exceptions are always with us
Good post !
You will always get the exception that comes from one of them back grounds, who also enjoys the thrill a sports bike can bring !
Lucky for me the british have caught up lol
Now that i have the bikes that can give the thrills of a sports bike, i am looking to obtain a harley as well so i can enjoy the chug chug (or is that poe-ta-toe poe-ta-toe) from social background to social background without the tyre (and licence) shredding acceleration that has you twisting the throttle at every opportunity !

[hospitalfood]

only ridden one harley.......loved it, was a glide of some sort.
there is a stereotype attached to harleys that I don't like, so when I get one I will remove the branding.
I understand people taking the piss out of tassel clad harley riders but I don't do it myself, there are good and bad people riding all sorts of bikes.

they are nice to ride. as far as fast goes I see people on touring bikes keep up with sports bikes. I think if you are a good rider you could get a harley to move along at a fair clip on corners, though you may need to raise it a bit.

bikes are not just about fast to me, thats why I own 2.

people who slag harleys should stop, its just the same as harleys owners slagging jap bikes.

[naphazoline]

Each to their own.

Harleys might not be my cup of tea,but i don't "hate" them.
In fact,their are some models that they do that i quite like.
I have a heap of mates with them,and go on rides with them from time to time.

Fact is,i'm a speed freak,so i own a sportsbike.

Pretty simple really.

But IMO,anything with 2 wheels is cool.
And if everyone had the same taste,it would be a boring world!

One thing i don't like,is people trying to force their brand choice on others.
One mans medicine,can be anothers poison.

[Headbanger]

I would like to think that at the historic moment when two motorcyclists first met on the road... that the comments made were along the lines of "what speed does she do" and not "how many miles to the gallon".



heh, in my experience the first comments are in regards to the weather, and then the destination. Never had any twat want to talk a numbers game, it would take a pretty fragile ego to start that conversation.

That would be the end of the conversation.

[eelracing]

heh, in my experience the first comments are in regards to the weather, and then the destination. Never had any twat want to talk a numbers game, it would take a pretty fragile ego to start that conversation.

That would be the end of the conversation.

Ummm kinda missing my point there headbanger but far be it from me to let ego get in the way of a good debate.

Nice day for a ride tho innit...

[Headbanger]

Ummm kinda missing my point there Headbanger


That's how I roll.:wari::wari::wari:

[Winston001]

A Harley on the other hand, has been refined to be the most comfortable of bikes, purpous built to takes its rider at a sedate speed with a good comfort level, able to carry enough baggage without compromising its performance, and leave the rider refreshed at the end of the journey able to spend a night in the pub......


Noooooooo. FAIL. That's a BMW. :devil2: