Slagging off

[Maha]

The act of slagging off products is way out of line in my opinion.
If you work in the industry where certain brands are sold, there is no reason what so ever to periodically slag off any other brand. You can have a dislike for a particular product, but to just state that the product is crap without any evidence to back your claim up, stands for nothing. If you are employed by a Supplier/Retailer of Motorcycle gear, how would the Empolyer view the rants about other brands on a Biker site?


Yes this thread was promted by the recent Drider87 threads.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129333803&postcount=1
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129334277&postcount=10

[PrincessBandit]

I missed them. What was it all about again?

[Maha]

I missed them. What was it all about again?

They are in PD....doesn't take much to work out who they are directed at.

My point is though, they are hardly Product Reviews and I see it as a callus and immature way to carry on. But, taking into consideration the age of those that post the personally directed bullshit, gives me the impression that they have wee bit of growing up to do.

[boomer]

They are in PD....doesn't take much to work out who they are directed at.

My point is though, they are hardly Product Reviews and I see it as a callus and immature way to carry on. But, taking into consideration the age of those that post the personally directed bullshit, gives me the impression that they have wee bit of growing up to do.


the kiddie obviously had too much lemonade this morning.. hes gonna have a bad headache when the sugar wears off

[enigma51]

Not sure what you on about

But just to make things clear
saying honda riders are gay is not slagging off its purely fact.

[The Stranger]

The act of slagging off products is way out of line in my opinion.
If you work in the industry where certain brands are sold, there is no reason what so ever to periodically slag off any other brand. You can have a dislike for a particular product, but to just state that the product is crap without any evidence to back your claim up, stands for nothing. If you are employed by a Supplier/Retailer of Motorcycle gear, how would the Empolyer view the rants about other brands on a Biker site?

Yes this thread was promted by the recent Drider87 threads.

Slagging off people without a link is way out of line in my opinion.

[Maha]

Not sure what you on about

But just to make things clear
saying honda riders are gay is not slagging off its purely fact.

Well possibly.....:confused:

But those that own a Honda know exactly where that sort of slagging comes from...purely because we know that we own a quality machine and a little bit of jealousy from those that own la esser machine is to be expected...

[Grahameeboy]

Slagging off people without a link is way out of line in my opinion.

Sorry, do my eyes deceive me.......:innocent:

[Grahameeboy]

Well possibly.....:confused:

But those that own a Honda know exactly where that sort of slgging comes from...purely because we know that we own a quality machine and a little bit of jealousy from those that own lesser machine is to be expected...

Just as well you have Mom to stop you straying eh...

[slofox]

They are in PD....

So I went looking for them...but I didn't get past the pole dancing thread...:Oops:

[Maha]

Slagging off people without a link is way out of line in my opinion.

At least I am man enough to use a name without being cryptic.....:shifty:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129333803&postcount=1

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129334277&postcount=10

[Maha]

So I went looking for them...but I didn't get past the pole dancing thread...:Oops:

One has to be on top of his/her game to notice them.

[The Stranger]

At least I am man enough to use a name without being cryptic.....:shifty:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129333803&postcount=1

Well there is the little matter of proof.
Fook - what was I thinking, who need proof - sorry it wont happen again.

[AllanB]

But those that own a Honda know exactly where that sort of slgging comes from...purely because we know that we own a quality machine and a little bit of jealousy from those that own lesser machine is to be expected...


I have an extremely well sculptured & firm bottom, and I have often noticed riders of other (dare I say lesser) brands of motorcycles giving it a sly check when they think I not watching.

I am comfortable with my old fashioned type of woman loving sexuality and I have no desire to try out any questionable new-age kinks. Every time I see these fellas perving at me I know that I have the spunky Mrs B at home, I rise above my homophobia and accept these kinky little glances as a compliment to the fine condition I keep my aging body in (pictures soon):sunny:.

It's time for riders of other brands to get out of the closet and embrace your poo-pusher feelings and stop hiding them by making your 'Honda riders are gay' comments.

I'm unsure but there are probably web sites dedicated to your desires and possibly even gay 'have-a-go' track days?

[Maha]

I have an extremely well sculptured & firm bottom, and I have often noticed riders of other (dare I say lesser) brands of motorcycles giving it a sly check when they think I not watching.

I am comfortable with my old fashioned type of woman loving sexuality and I have no desire to try out any questionable new-age kinks. Every time I see these fellas perving at me I know that I have the spunky Mrs B at home, I rise above my homophobia and accept these kinky little glances as a compliment to the fine condition I keep my aging body in (pictures soon):sunny:.

It's time for riders of other brands to get out of the closet and embrace your poo-pusher feelings and stop hiding them by making your 'Honda riders are gay' comments.

I'm unsure but there are probably web sites dedicated to your desires and possibly even gay 'have-a-go' track days?

Now thats what I call a Product Review........:Punk:

The Product being....Men in Leather.

[SARGE]

The act of slagging off products is way out of line in my opinion.
If you work in the industry where certain brands are sold, there is no reason what so ever to periodically slag off any other brand.

that and its completely unprofessional


You can have a dislike for a particular product, but to just state that the product is crap without any evidence to back your claim up, stands for nothing.

i sell professional quality mechanical tools (American, Euro, Jap manufacture..) some of my biggest competitors are Snap-On and Trade Tools .. if you look in my toolbox .. both brands are represented..(no Chinese shit though.. i WILL slag off shit quality)



If you are employed by a Supplier/Retailer of Motorcycle gear, how would the Employer view the rants about other brands on a Biker site?



seeing how many M/C Shop owners are at mates with each other.. worked together in the past, golf together.. race together .. not well i am guessing

[Crazy Steve]

Not sure what you on about

But just to make things clear
saying honda riders are gay is not slagging off its purely fact.

Also I would like to make things clear.....I don't hate Enigma...

I just think he looks like a lille girl.......

Crazy Steve.

[Crazy Steve]

Slagging off people without a link is way out of line in my opinion.

Slagging off is something The Stranger does well........:sick:

Crazy Steve.

[Maha]

seeing how many M/C Shop owners are at mates with each other.. worked together in the past, golf together.. race together .. not well i am guessing


Thank you for answering that question SARGE, I guess it was a rhetorical question but, its not the first time this particular product has been called into question by these young fellows.

If they feel the need to say anything at all, then a full review on the product is requiered, not just be all overly judgemental and say ''its crap''.

[DMNTD]

Unprofessional...immature and unfounded too.
Dunno where the person involved works but it simply isn't 'cool'.

[SARGE]

Unprofessional...immature and unfounded too.
Dunno where the person involved works but it simply isn't 'cool'.

also ..lets just pretend for a second here.. say 2 guys .. lets call them Steve and Rob come up together as 15 year old motorcycle enthusiasts.. ride together .. race together etc ..

now a few years down the line .. Steve buys a motorcycle shop and Rob buys a competitor shop.. both these guys have shitloads of friends in the motorcycle industry who own various businesses ..


so anyway .. Rob hires someone with a little too much time on his hands .. probably fairly young .. and the young man spouts off something at a party one evening where everyone can hear "Slamming" Steves shop ...."COMPETITORS" dont necessarily mean ENEMIES


Steve hears this and calls Rob over and mentions it to him... now Rob wouldnt look kindly to hearing this ... Fires the young man and tells all his mates not to bother hiring him..




that would suck:done:

[DMNTD]

...Fires the young man and tells all his mates not to bother hiring him..

Yes indeed Mr D, indeed :shifty:
I have found in very recent times just how small the motorcycle industry is but fortunately for this honky it has worked in my favour but only due my own doing. However if I'd been slagging off my so-called competitors then I'd be jobless at the moment. Instead I scored a new job within 5 days and have 2 other prospects too.

[SARGE]

Yes indeed Mr D, indeed :shifty:
I have found in very recent times just how small the motorcycle industry is but fortunately for this honky it has worked in my favour but only due my own doing. However if I'd been slagging off my so-called competitors then I'd be jobless at the moment. Instead I scored a new job within 5 days and have 2 other prospects too.

wikked!! .. does that mean ya get to keep your R1?



pm me where ya work...

[carver]

"people like to see others loose"

[boomer]

Yes indeed Mr D, indeed :shifty:
I have found in very recent times just how small the motorcycle industry is but fortunately for this honky it has worked in my favour but only due my own doing. However if I'd been slagging off my so-called competitors then I'd be jobless at the moment. Instead I scored a new job within 5 days and have 2 other prospects too.

Nice work Au, those that play and shit on there own doorsteps dont have teh brains they were born with...

[EJK]

He's just a uni kid. It's those age where selfishness, pride and arrogance overwhelm.

Another attention seeker. Move on, nothing to see here guys...

[Maha]

Yes indeed Mr D, indeed :shifty:
I have found in very recent times just how small the motorcycle industry is but fortunately for this honky it has worked in my favour but only due my own doing. However if I'd been slagging off my so-called competitors then I'd be jobless at the moment. Instead I scored a new job within 5 days and have 2 other prospects too.

Awesome news Chris, well pleased for ya mate.


"people like to see others loose"

When you do a product review on any given bike, its honest, and theres the difference between right and wrong...honesty, not a narrow minded view on things.

[carver]

Awesome news Chris, well pleased for ya mate.



When you do a product review on any given bike, its honest, and theres the difference between right and wrong...honesty, not a narrow minded view on things.

reviewing stuff properly is hard
i write on here for a motorcycle audience, it would be a lot more mild for a non motorcycling audience

[Maha]

reviewing stuff properly is hard
i write on here for a motorcycle audience, it would be a lot more mild for a non motorcycling audience

Yes indeed, fact still remains, your reviews are honest and not governed by personal loathe.

[carver]

Yes indeed, fact still remains, your reviews are honest and not governed by personal loath.

that is true, its kind written in a silly way though.
i quite like reading them years later!

got any links to this dudes stuff?

[Maha]

that is true, its kind written in a silly way though.
i quite like reading them years later!

got any links to this dudes stuff?

Been added to the first Post.

[Ixion]

Also I would like to make things clear.....I don't hate Enigma...

I just think he looks like a lille girl.......

Crazy Steve.

What, shaved and no willy? (BTW, how do you know this?)

[ital916]

Oh deary, I did cause a bit of a stir.

Here is my apology. It was a bit of a mistake on my part to slag gear, I apologise to the gear manufacturer I did slag, woe I am young and naive.

I have never stopped customers from buying other brands, and direct them to other stores regularly where they can find items in stock or of a different nature.

I was testing the waters as to what I can get away with, it was meant as a bit of fun. Hence the names if the threads, terrorism, woah and dammit jafa as well as the associated replies like "party in my pants".

I on numerous occasions have been told of slagging of other motorcycles stores and brands by other retailers, I will make it clear that in no way was where I work associated with the things I said. Ill take this one on the chin, If you guys report me, so be it. Ill lose my job, my only income and I guess Ill have to look for other work.

The threads were a mistake, I seem to have stirred a hornets nest. Again my apologies.

Maha you will find cycletreads has a great lineup of gear, good luck finding those pants.

[boomer]

i've just clicked as to who you are.....

[ital916]

i've just clicked as to who you are.....

Huh, easy mate, so I wound you up a bit.. heaps of members have given me shit....threads and threads of shit. I have never hinted at or threatened physical violence.

You want an apology too, fine, Im sorry for the dictionary terms and others stuff I said.

Jeez,

Calm down people.

[ital916]

i've just clicked as to who you are.....

Why do you threaten to hurt me, whats with the violent pms, why the threat of sending me a surprise which will injur me?

If you want, how bout we grab a beer, cool off and have a chat. My shout eh.

[boomer]

Why do you threaten to hurt me, whats with the violent pms, why the threat of sending me a surprise which will injur me?

If you want, how bout we grab a beer, cool off and have a chat. My shout eh.


Anonymity aside, its a whole new ball game. I should dig out your pms and bring them in.. in the week.

[Maha]

Oh deary, I did cause a bit of a stir.

Here is my apology. It was a bit of a mistake on my part to slag gear, I apologise to the gear manufacturer I did slag, woe I am young and naive.

I have never stopped customers from buying other brands, and direct them to other stores regularly where they can find items in stock or of a different nature.

I was testing the waters as to what I can get away with, it was meant as a bit of fun. Hence the names if the threads, terrorism, woah and dammit jafa as well as the associated replies like "party in my pants".

I on numerous occasions have been told of slagging of other motorcycles stores and brands by other retailers, I will make it clear that in no way was where I work associated with the things I said. Ill take this one on the chin, If you guys report me, so be it. Ill lose my job, my only income and I guess Ill have to look for other work.

The threads were a mistake, I seem to have stirred a hornets nest. Again my apologies.

Maha you will find cycletreads has a great lineup of gear, good luck finding those pants.


A well thought out and worded post.
I know of at least one of your mates has a gripe with a well respected bike gear supplier, no real need to join in. You work for a reputable store yourself and personally, I dont mind where I buy from, there is a great lineu of gear at any number of outlets. The only crap gear is jeans and a T-Shirt.

Once again, good onya mate, awesome reply.

[ital916]

Anonymity aside, its a whole new ball game. I should dig out your pms and bring them in.. in the week.

You mean the one where you ask for my number; sorry I gave you toyworlds number, I didnt want to recieve violent phonecalls at home.

(PM removed by moderator)
this one

(PM removed by moderator)

this one

(PM removed by moderator)

Dont contact me, or my family. Any action of the such or more threats of violence will end in me taking police or legal action. The mods have been notified.

[boomer]

Why do you threaten to hurt me, whats with the violent pms, why the threat of sending me a surprise which will injur me?

If you want, how bout we grab a beer, cool off and have a chat. My shout eh.


PM1.
i'll get them of one of your friends, hopefully you have your details listed for buddies;

Expect a suprise in the near future..

PM2.
oh its all in good jest is it, a while back you had a constant dig and again today you kick off... well 'mate' you can expect whats coming to you...

i dont see any threats of violence :sunny: I think you realise what a position you have put yourself in at work.. hence the big fookin back track.


i think you know who i am and i cant wait to see your face when i pick up my order in the week...

I see you've listed them yourself, no threats of violence there spudly. Now your employer will be over the moon to hear what you've been upto.

[Ixion]

I think I missed something. Why do I miss all the good stuff?

Could we have an action replay, please ?

[Katman]

Dont contact me, or my family. Any action of the such or more threats of violence will end in me taking police or legal action. The mods have been notified.


So you fucked up. Don't go taking any notice of boomer.

The guy's a fuckin retard.

[boomer]

So you fucked up. Don't go taking any notice of boomer.

The guy's a fuckin retard.

i weeeeed

__________

[ital916]

Its all in the delivery. You dont have to say something to infer it. The change in my attitude is I didnt realise I ahd wound you up that much and I am grown up enough to know when to say hey, lets chill out.

I find the best way to put right a wrong is to just grab a drink and talk. Thats all.


PM1.
i'll get them of one of your friends, hopefully you have your details listed for buddies;

Expect a suprise in the near future..

PM2.
oh its all in good jest is it, a while back you had a constant dig and again today you kick off... well 'mate' you can expect whats coming to you...

i dont see any threats of violence :sunny: I think you realise what a position you have put yourself in at work.. hence the big fookin back track.


i think you know who i am and i cant wait to see your face when i pick up my order in the week...

I see you've listed them yourself, no threats of violence there spudly. Now your employer will be over the moon to hear what you've been upto.

[Kickaha]

So you fucked up. Don't go taking any notice of boomer.

The guy's a fuckin retard.

You got that right :finger:

[Mully]

I've only just figured out the name change. Man, I'm slow today.

[Gremlin]

I've got no idea whats going on... :weird:

[DMNTD]

I've got no idea what's going on... :weird:


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[AllanB]

I've got no idea whats going on... :weird:

Me either.


But I suggest a pair of pistols at dawn maybe will sort it all out.

Tally-ho chaps and all that.

[ynot slow]

Retail 1 on 1,first rule don't rubbish opposition products,without the facts available.That is knowing the FEATURES and BENEFITS of your product,that way you can inform the customer that your product is the best.Rather than say xyz is rubbish,and when asked why?You then say cause it is without any information why.Wrong answer.

[sidecar bob]

So you fucked up. Don't go taking any notice of boomer.

The guy's a fuckin retard.

And a bully, which is very un cool.

[boomer]

i don't give a shit what ya think, If some little fookin oink wants to constantly abuse me via rep, on a crusade, then he deserves everything he's gonna get.

I'mm daft not stupid.

[Kickaha]

I'mm daft not stupid.

And an arsehole :finger:

[The Stranger]

And an arsehole :finger:

Nice guys finish last.

[boomer]

And an arsehole :finger:

I know, You've got the 'Stupid' title sewn up....

[Virago]

Nice guys finish last.

Only during sex...

[Robert Taylor]

Lets look at it another way, how many manufacturers and distributors / dealers misrepresent the products as being a lot better than they actually are? The indisputable fact is there is a LOT of low quality rubbish on the market and many loosely use the word quality. Thats the real issue.

[pritch]

here is a LOT of low quality rubbish on the market and many loosely use the word quality.

This reminds me of the old British TV sitcom, when discussing some clothing material one says, "Never mind the quality, feel the width."

[Quasievil]

how Interesting, looks like a thread spawned from Mr Jafa in relation to his kevlar jeans that he ripped a hole in the bum (but apparently the jeans did it by themselves)

so instead of following his options , ie return, we inspect, offer credit or refund (or potentially nothing), he seeks time and time and time again to try and bring our Brand into disrepute using methods typical of a baby needing a mummies titty and enlisting like minded plonkers to slag us off.

Message to Mr PJafa and co.

You have some rights under the consumers guarantees act and you are of course entitled to exercise them, but you do need to follow the obligations that you have to us the retailer, ie return the goods in a reasonable time frame (this is essentially gone however) if that does not bring you satisfaction you can opt for your relief by way of a small claims court hearing, I will gladly attend this hearing and in this process I will be bringing evidence of your online actions to indicate to the court your attitude towards satisfying your apparent claim.
Thats your options, here is mine, I treat my business seriously and with this in mind will offer no further tolerance of your campaign against our product you either adhere to your rights as a consumer (which do not include public slagging) or I shall be contacting my lawyer to consider legal options against you, Im serious.

[Kickaha]

Nice guys finish last.

Are people still dumb enough to believe that? ah well I guess you just proved they are


I know, You've got the 'Stupid' title sewn up....

Can't really see that when you make me look like I'm I'm a fucking genius

[Robert Taylor]

how Interesting, looks like a thread spawned from Mr Jafa in relation to his kevlar jeans that he ripped a hole in the bum (but apparently the jeans did it by themselves)

so instead of following his options , ie return, we inspect, offer credit or refund (or potentially nothing), he seeks time and time and time again to try and bring our Brand into disrepute using methods typical of a baby needing a mummies titty and enlisting like minded plonkers to slag us off.

Message to Mr PJafa and co.

You have some rights under the consumers guarantees act and you are of course entitled to exercise them, but you do need to follow the obligations that you have to us the retailer, ie return the goods in a reasonable time frame (this is essentially gone however) if that does not bring you satisfaction you can opt for your relief by way of a small claims court hearing, I will gladly attend this hearing and in this process I will be bringing evidence of your online actions to indicate to the court your attitude towards satisfying your apparent claim.
Thats your options, here is mine, I treat my business seriously and with this in mind will offer no further tolerance of your campaign against our product you either adhere to your rights as a consumer (which do not include public slagging) or I shall be contacting my lawyer to consider legal options against you, Im serious.

Hear hear Quasi, talk is cheap and forums make it all too easy for the ill informed to have a bleat. Its notable that the culture of blame is alive and well in NZ.

[The Stranger]

Are people still dumb enough to believe that? ah well I guess you just proved they are



Ah, must be lovely to be so innocent and naive.

[CookMySock]

[....] to just state that the product is crap without any evidence to back your claim up, stands for nothing.Yeah but it means nothing as well. People aren't completely stupid.

I make up my own mind on my own real experiences, and listen to others' as well, so mindless product bashing shows nothing to me, except how childish and small-minded they are.

Move on.

Steve

[boomer]

Can't really see that when you make me look like I'm I'm a fucking genius


reaaaaallly..?

[Maha]

Yeah but it means nothing as well. People aren't completely stupid.

I make up my own mind on my own real experiences, and listen to others' as well, so mindless product bashing shows nothing to me, except how childish and small-minded they are.

Move on.

Steve

Was my original point Steve, that sort of carry on need not happen and one of the guilty has since made an apology on this thread, which shows maturity, lets hope it stays that way.

[Kickaha]

reaaaaallly..?

I can't help having a stutter

[The Stranger]

Was my original point Steve, that sort of carry on need not happen and one of the guilty has since made an apology on this thread, which shows maturity, lets hope it stays that way.

At one level, still one could imagine that real maturity could have been displayed by NOT making such a defamatory in the post in the first place.
Maturity means considering consequences BEFORE you post, not after.

[Katman]

Maturity means considering consequences BEFORE you post, not after.

Ahh yes, "considering consequences".

:whistle:

[Maha]

Ahh yes, "considering consequences".

:whistle:

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaa Noice!!!!....:laugh:

[Swoop]

Instead I scored a new job within 5 days and have 2 other prospects too.
Fantastic news! Glad to hear.

I've only just figured out the name change. Man, I'm slow today.
The first post explains it all...

[Maha]

And so it continues...(http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=106723)

I wonder whos turn it will be next, to sound off like a little girl thats been sent to bed early?
Note of interest though, he seems a lone voice on the topic of which he spouts?

[short-circuit]

Yeah but it means nothing as well. People aren't completely stupid.

I make up my own mind on my own real experiences, and listen to others' as well, so mindless product bashing shows nothing to me, except how childish and small-minded they are.

Move on.

Steve

Yeah....you're right Steve.

Go Hyosung

[short-circuit]

And so it continues...(http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=106723)

I wonder whos turn it will be next, to sound off like a little girl thats been sent to bed early?
Note of interest though, he seems a lone voice on the topic of which he spouts?

Shift Kevlar Jeans - almost daily use = 1 1/2 years and counting. No sign of wear.

I'd be pissed off too and even if I didn't want to discuss it here, I'd spread the word one way or another.

A separate issue is interference by moderators protecting a brand that advertising through the forum.

[Conquiztador]

Interesting read. Everyone has a right to their opinion. And if that opinion is hurting someone else, then that someone else has the right to defend him/her self. But for someone who has no involvement to moderate/abuse/delete someone elses opinions/writing is IMHO corrupt and censorship as a result of a false belief of knowing better than the poster.

Now I realise that my way to only use old and worn gear that I have owned for years and I do not expect perfection from, is a way to save money, save frustration and be realistic re performance.

And if/when there is some damage/failure I fix it my self. Nothing wrong with duct tape and cable ties. And used motor oil is brilliant to weather protect stuff with! It also does not detract from my image as a relic from the past.

Peace!

[Quasievil]

Shift Kevlar Jeans - almost daily use = 1 1/2 years and counting. No sign of wear.

I'd be pissed off too and even if I didn't want to discuss it here, I'd spread the word one way or another.

A separate issue is interference by moderators protecting a brand that advertising through the forum.

Qmoto Jeans, 12 oz denium, more soft kevlar than most, been wearing them for three years almost regulary and no sign of wear.

And for the record their is a process for disgruntled customers, it starts with returning the goods so the retailer can see and make an assesment weather to refund or credit or replace, we where never given that option, rather we face regular slagging, is that fair is it ?

[short-circuit]

Qmoto Jeans, 12 oz denium, more soft kevlar than most, been wearing them for three years almost regulary and no sign of wear.

And for the record their is a process for disgruntled customers, it starts with returning the goods so the retailer can see and make an assesment weather to refund or credit or replace, we where never given that option, rather we face regular slagging, is that fair is it ?


What do you do beyond KB? Make your customers sign an oath not to discuss the quality of your products to anyone.....ever.....not even their spouse/dog/priest in the confession box?

Jumping to the defense all the time just looks bad...moderators stopping discussion looks really really bad

[Quasievil]

What do you do beyond KB? Make your customers sign an oath not to discuss the quality of your products to anyone.....ever.....not even their spouse/dog/priest in the confession box?

Jumping to the defense all the time just looks bad...moderators stopping discussion looks really really bad

What are you talking about? of course we cant control what people say and of course if we are getting slagged off we will take a position to defend ourselves, when our products get slagged for reason of malice we will defend it why wouldnt we, especially when its a campaign with no intent to resolve and issue founded by a plonker.

Moderators stopping discussion ? ya what? its all here nothing deleted for all to read.

What business are you in, can I go online and slag you off would you find that acceptable would you? no option of resolution? you would be happy with that would you?

I have requested someone to mediate this so it can go away, this is my initiative.

[Maha]

Shift Kevlar Jeans - almost daily use = 1 1/2 years and counting. No sign of wear.

I'd be pissed off too and even if I didn't want to discuss it here, I'd spread the word one way or another.

A separate issue is interference by moderators protecting a brand that advertising through the forum.

Fair call, but, and heres the difference between what you are saying and what goes on with regards to this particular issue. Its gone past getting it sorted (although thats being worked on) and become a war of he said/I said, you're a wank, na you're the wank mate etc and never the twain shall meet (buts that being worked on also)

[pritch]

Ahh yes, "considering consequences".

:whistle:

IIRC the cerebral cortex is not fully developed until about age 25 in most people. This is the part of the brain that deals with linking actions and consequences.

It's also why most WW2 fighter pilots were very young. Mostly under 21 to start? They wanted older steadier types for bomber pilots so they tended to be 23 or older.

Considering all that, it's clear nobody under 23 should be allowed to drive a car or ride a motorbike :devil2:

[zeocen]

Shift Kevlar Jeans - almost daily use = 1 1/2 years and counting. No sign of wear.

I'd be pissed off too and even if I didn't want to discuss it here, I'd spread the word one way or another.

A separate issue is interference by moderators protecting a brand that advertising through the forum.

Got myself a pair of Quasi kevlar jeans when he was making them, had them for about over 2 years now I would say, commute in them daily, so probably 30,000km all up in them, mostly with armour underneath.. a seam hasn't so much as ripped yet and they've seen all the elements possible.

I personally don't have any other of Quasi's stuff because I don't like big lables all over the place (I also prefer cordura for commuting and Quasi is predominantly leather) but this particular product is great!

Not creating an argument or anything, just giving another buyer's perspective!

Happy thoughts, everyone! Calm blue oceans! :sunny:

[Maha]

Got myself a pair of Quasi kevlar jeans when he was making them, had them for about over 2 years now I would say, commute in them daily, so probably 30,000km all up in them, mostly with armour underneath.. a seam hasn't so much as ripped yet and they've seen all the elements possible.

I personally don't have any other of Quasi's stuff because I don't like big lables all over the place (I also prefer cordura for commuting and Quasi is predominantly leather) but this particular product is great!

Not creating an argument or anything, just giving another buyer's perspective!

Happy thoughts, everyone! Calm blue oceans! :sunny:

I am sure most would agree with you, its clearly become a personal thing over time. Hopefully by the end of this weekend I can have this thread closed.

[yungatart]

I am sure most would agree with you, its clearly become a personal thing over time. Hopefully by the end of this weekend I can have this thread closed.

That would be great...life is too short for all this pettiness!

[short-circuit]

Its gone past getting it sorted (although thats being worked on) and become a war of he said/I said, you're a wank, na you're the wank mate etc and never the twain shall meet (buts that being worked on also)

Sure, PD all that shit (it's personal abuse)

[Madness]

This is enough to rip yer undies, innit?.

[short-circuit]

This is enough to rip yer undies, innit?.

Doesn't take much by all accounts

[Quasievil]

Doesn't take much by all accounts

especially if you wear manties eh short circuit

http://www.manties.net/

BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[SixPackBack]

especially if you wear manties eh short circuit

http://www.manties.net/

BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

How did you know about 'manties' huh Quasi:shit:...........Does your missus know?

[Quasievil]

How did you know about 'manties' huh Quasi:shit:...........Does your missus know?

Eh you mean you dont.............I brought you a pair for Xmas.

lol nah the late great Dss3 told me about them one night on the piss, Im sure short circuit wears them tho...............nosey like a freckin woman

[SixPackBack]

Eh you mean you dont.............I brought you a pair for Xmas.

lol nah the late great Dss3 told me about them one night on the piss, Im sure short circuit wears them tho...............nosey like a freckin woman

Nah I woulda remembered the knickers.........The gloves you supplied are still going strong after 70 thousand kay so I no complain:wari:

[short-circuit]

Im sure short circuit wears them tho...............nosey like a freckin woman


Fantasize about me if you must - I just wouldn't do it in public eh? It's kinda weird - you hardly know me

[Quasievil]

Fantasize about me if you must - I just wouldn't do it in public eh? It's kinda weird - you hardly know me

yeah but it makes it more exciting:gob:

[short-circuit]

yeah but it makes it more exciting:gob:


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