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denill
1st August 2009, 14:22
<a href=http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/07/31/mladin-announces-retirement>And contemplating WSBK! Now wouldn't that be something</A>....... :shifty: :shifty:

lostinflyz
1st August 2009, 14:34
ohh i soo hope so. meragali should have him as back up for when lorenzo fucks off.

he may not be nice and friendly but he doesn't lie. i like tat

phantom67
1st August 2009, 14:56
ohh i soo hope so. meragali should have him as back up for when lorenzo fucks off.

he may not be nice and friendly but he doesn't lie. i like tat

Merigali runs the Yamaha Italia team, doesn't he? What does that have to do with Lorenzo?

denill
1st August 2009, 15:13
Merigali runs the Yamaha Italia team, doesn't he? What does that have to do with Lorenzo?

Think about it. :mellow:

JayRacer37
1st August 2009, 15:27
"I'm not just going to just race for a paycheck. That's just not how I operate."

Umm...Sorry Matt, wasn't the reason you stayed in the States and never gave WSBK a shot BECAUSE of the paycheck...???

Clivoris
1st August 2009, 16:36
"I'm not just going to just race for a paycheck. That's just not how I operate."

Umm...Sorry Matt, wasn't the reason you stayed in the States and never gave WSBK a shot BECAUSE of the paycheck...???

I should invite him to the Actrix Winter Series then you could show him how to have fun again Jay:wari:

JayRacer37
1st August 2009, 16:40
I should invite him to the Actrix Winter Series then you could show him how to have fun again Jay:wari:

Cool beans, give him your 400, and i'll have Drew's Thou, and it should be a good race... ;)

Clivoris
1st August 2009, 16:47
Cool beans, give him your 400, and i'll have Drew's Thou, and it should be a good race... ;)

The 400 is history bro. Bought by a young fulla doing very well in his first season. Scored me a 600 so I can be more like you:Punk: I think you might still have an advantage on Drew's bike. It just wont look as good.

slowpoke
1st August 2009, 22:57
"I'm not just going to just race for a paycheck. That's just not how I operate."

Umm...Sorry Matt, wasn't the reason you stayed in the States and never gave WSBK a shot BECAUSE of the paycheck...???

To be fair I think he means that he wants to race for WINS, not just circulate. Yep, he'll go where he can get the most $$$ but he wants to COMPETE when he gets there. That's one of the reasons he's the best racer the AMA has ever seen.

The series over there is just a train wreck at the moment, and for a rider of his caliber there are no challenges left and none in the foreseeable future.

lostinflyz
2nd August 2009, 10:01
according to superbikeplanet he hasstated he aint going racing nomore at the end of the year. damn. i really wantedto know how good he was against lots of fast guys

oyster
2nd August 2009, 15:55
For the last few years in the AMA Spies and Mladinhave been pretty well equal,and yes, we all wanted to know how this level compares with world supers. About the same it seems, consider how well Spies is going as a rookie.
Also, the AMA supers get around Laguna on the same weekend as MotoGP about 3 secs a lap slower, which is comparable to the world supers when compared with MotoGP in Europe etc.
So there is no doubt, Mladin is VERY good. He did say tho if Spies left he would lose motivation, probably leave AMA. he didn't and this year his results are pretty ordinary, maybe in part re the "spies gone" factor, but also that DMG have worked to balance up the field's competiveness. See now how other makes, including twins (even Buell!) have shown creditable performances where before factory Suzukies ruled without challenge. The AMA is not a train wreck, it's going thru a change, with the "growing pains" plus the US is in depression. All this makes a bit "feild skinny", but the signs and architecture is good.

slowpoke
5th August 2009, 05:02
For the last few years in the AMA Spies and Mladinhave been pretty well equal,and yes, we all wanted to know how this level compares with world supers. About the same it seems, consider how well Spies is going as a rookie.
Also, the AMA supers get around Laguna on the same weekend as MotoGP about 3 secs a lap slower, which is comparable to the world supers when compared with MotoGP in Europe etc.
So there is no doubt, Mladin is VERY good. He did say tho if Spies left he would lose motivation, probably leave AMA. he didn't and this year his results are pretty ordinary, maybe in part re the "spies gone" factor, but also that DMG have worked to balance up the field's competiveness. See now how other makes, including twins (even Buell!) have shown creditable performances where before factory Suzukies ruled without challenge. The AMA is not a train wreck, it's going thru a change, with the "growing pains" plus the US is in depression. All this makes a bit "feild skinny", but the signs and architecture is good.

Haha, if you mean by "ordinary" that he actually lost a couple of races then I guess you are right, but the guy could have wrapped up the championship with I think 3 rounds to go if he'd turned it on at Topeka......99.99% of racers can only dream of being that "ordinary".

I dunno mate, I look at Ducati, Yamaha and Kawasaki's off again/on again involvement in the series, or Honda switching from store bought HRC bikes to building their own and compare it to the continuity and development from the Yoshi/Doyle/Mladin/Spies era and is it really any wonder they dominated? I mean the best example of how poorly the rest were doing was Hacking, riding the wheels off what was really the worst of the factory bikes and regularly beating the more fancied Yamaha, Honda efforts. And supposed young gun Hayden has been largely back in the pack on the same supposed wonder-bike.

Nah, I reckon Spies and Mladin are just fantastic riders, which Spies is proving right now. Apart from Mladin, and possibly Hacking, I don't think any of the other "gun's" could hope to jump to WSB and have any sort of impact no matter what they were riding.

With the Buell/DSB debacle, the Topeka walkout, empty grandstands, many of the best racers (Hacking, Zemke, Disalvo, Bostrom etc) not even getting a ride in the Big Show, many racers looking overseas, it certainly looks like a train wreck from here.

Shaun
5th August 2009, 07:02
Train wreck mmmm

It is just a temp write off, remember it is the USA, where bigger is better- ha ha ha

slowpoke
5th August 2009, 07:40
Drama queens ya reckon Shaun? You could well be right....oh for a crystal ball.

On the plus side there are some good opportunities for young riders to make a name for themselves. With Spies, Mladin, Duhamel, Eric Bostrom and maybe a few others jumpin' outta the picture within the space of two years there are some nice rides up for grabs.

k14
5th August 2009, 10:29
On the plus side there are some good opportunities for young riders to make a name for themselves. With Spies, Mladin, Duhamel, Eric Bostrom and maybe a few others jumpin' outta the picture within the space of two years there are some nice rides up for grabs.
Yeah for grabs so long as your dad has a cheque book...

oyster
5th August 2009, 11:13
Yes, it's true lap times are bought with big money. Every second cost 4 times as the last one! The rules of all motorsport. But if you don't have any money (this family doesn't have any) then to support your son, as we have with Dominic, the only answer is the USA. In his first year he rode 47 superbike/superstock races. A mix of regional, club and AMA.NETT cost around 15-20k. Where else could you get that "bang for buck"? In his second year he financially broke even, getting as high as 13th in the AMA, 10th in one race. Good value for money... In the third year it was the "big league" with Corona Honda, factory supported team. Big, big money required to buy in here. It fell over.
So the USA can be done on a shoestring, it just depends on your immediate goals and what you can afford

denill
14th August 2009, 08:02
<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/09081334ondmg.htm>The AMA?</A>

Shaun
15th August 2009, 21:28
Yes, it's true lap times are bought with big money. Every second cost 4 times as the last one! The rules of all motorsport. But if you don't have any money (this family doesn't have any) then to support your son, as we have with Dominic, the only answer is the USA. In his first year he rode 47 superbike/superstock races. A mix of regional, club and AMA.NETT cost around 15-20k. Where else could you get that "bang for buck"? In his second year he financially broke even, getting as high as 13th in the AMA, 10th in one race. Good value for money... In the third year it was the "big league" with Corona Honda, factory supported team. Big, big money required to buy in here. It fell over.
So the USA can be done on a shoestring, it just depends on your immediate goals and what you can afford


Amazing what support and contacts can do

denill
9th January 2010, 17:06
Among other things, Miladin said:

<a href=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ama-sbk-mat-mladin-the-end//P1/>"I wasn't going to go over and race in Europe for a fifth of what I could make racing in America. In the end, if they want to get serious… wanted to get serious about winning, then people need to at least put a figure on something that's not a complete embarrassment."</a>