New bucket on the scene

[hmurphy]

It has taken ages but Matt's RGV150/TS125 bucket is almost good to race. I have a question though. He doesn't have a rear caliper or master cylinder so he has no rear brakes at the moment! Front brakes are almost sorted. I have read the rules and it doesn't say anything but I thought I would ask here.

If we don't manage to get a rear caliper for his bucket before the Kaitoke fun day, can he still race his bucket just using front brakes in B grade? The front brakes will work and obviously the bike will be appropriately nyloned. He has an RG150 rear wheel currently mounted that has the disc on it.

I am not trying to encourage anything whorey here or anything, it is a serious question as the rear brakes are almost never used by a number of racers during a bucket race. Cheers

[Pumba]

All vehicles must be fitted with an efficient brake on both front and rear wheels except in the case of competitions held on circular, semi-circular or speedway tracks, when brakes, if fitted to the machine must be disconnected.
Any vehicle using a hydraulic type brake master cylinder must have a brake pedal return stop fitted so that the brake pedal linkage does not depend on the cylinder circlip to act as a stop. Where application of this rule is in conflict with Appendix A 3-6 then that shall take precedence.

I think that answers it:done:

[hmurphy]

Do we go off those rules as well as the following?:

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Chapter_24_Miniature_Road_Racing.pdf

I went to the bucket website and it said those are the rules for buckets. "Chapter 24 deals with buckets, so scroll to page 27 of 34"

Cheers for pointing that out Pumba

[Pumba]

Chapter 10, technical, is one of the over arching sections relating to what all bikes in all classes must have. Chapter 24, Miniture Road Race, then deals with those rules speccific to F4 and F5 class bikes.

[hmurphy]

Sweet cheers man. Will hopefully have something sorted by next Sunday. Thanks again for your help and quick response too!

[Buckets4Me]

it say you have to have brakes :yes:
and I have been pinged for not having them
and also seen people run the rear brack with no pads:gob:

yes you are ment to have them. :scooter:

:shutup: :done:

[DELLORTO]

my old bike had no rear brake, but i had a decent front brake.....

trust me you want brakes even on a bucket on a kart track.....ive been without brakes heading into a retaining wall at 40km/h and its not fun :shit:

[Kendog]

For Wellington buckets you need a rear brake. Even if it's not used on the track its a good back up just in case.

[Str8 Jacket]

For Wellington buckets you need a rear brake. Even if it's not used on the track its a good back up just in case.

Nitpick! ;)

[Kendog]

Nitpick! ;)

Just doing my job :done:

[quallman1234]

Won't get away with it at kaitoke. You might at slipway ;).

[hmurphy]

Won't get away with it at kaitoke. You might at slipway ;).

Hahahaha sounds like you're getting your hopes up 'bout your bucket!

[nudemetalz]

You don't need much of a rear brake though.
Sketchy's got an alloy disc on his, maybe good for one or two uses of rear brake :laugh:

....and I can't remember if I ever used my one, but it's there.

Does Matt want some RGV150 sidepanels for his bike. I have some for free if he wants them. Good nick too.

[hmurphy]

You don't need much of a rear brake though.
Sketchy's got an alloy disc on his, maybe good for one or two uses of rear brake :laugh:

....and I can't remember if I ever used my one, but it's there.

Does Matt want some RGV150 sidepanels for his bike. I have some for free if he wants them. Good nick too.

That's generous of you! I will have a chat to him! Yeah I was watching Glen make that disc and he was telling me about how he won't be using it.

[nudemetalz]

No worries :)

[quallman1234]

Hahahaha sounds like you're getting your hopes up 'bout your bucket!

Not really, it will have a rear brake at the end of this weekend. Its not that hard, i just make it look hard. Ask anyone ;).

[F5 Dave]

The ally disc will work in an emergency. In fact there was an RD50 that used to run with a well oversize ally front disc. But have to run non sintered pads & slot the disc in a specific design or they will fail.

[hmurphy]

Old thread much? This bucket is finally complete hahaha. Just took it out for a ride and it goes ok. Needs lower gearing for sure though. Might be a decent little weapon!

1 question though. I have struggled to find what I was looking for online but this is the story...

When I got back from a small ride (bike was warmed up properly etc) I was letting it idle when I noticed a squeaking sound. It sounded like it was the piston rubbing on something and making a "dog's chew toy" sound.
What could this be!? I immediately turned the bike off as I know how friggin' useless these bloody two strokes are.

I found this link online which I think might be my problem...
http://forums.everything2stroke.com/showthread.php?t=29819

Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to start it up again until I know what's going on!! This bike will be at the next round for sure (as long as the motor hasn't just shat itself). Cheers!

[saxet]

I found this link online which I think might be my problem...
http://forums.everything2stroke.com/showthread.php?t=29819

I'd say you're on the right track.

[hmurphy]

Sweet thanks. I don't like this whole two stroke thing and waiting for it to blow up. They are fun as hell to ride though. Just wasn't sure if it was the piston grinding itself to bits haha

[Trudes]

The first thing you need to do if you don't want your 2 stroke to blow up Hamish, is to stop abusing it. You have to love your 2 stroke and treat it nicely. They like a warm dry garage, and prefer to be stored under a blanket and cleaned after every ride.:msn-wink:

[F5 Dave]

That's rich coming from you! You fitted that brake hose yet?

[Trudes]

That's rich coming from you! You fitted that brake hose yet?

hahahaha, nup! :bleh:

[hmurphy]

Here are some pics. Just needs a bit of paint, new fork oil and the nylon to be bolted on. This bucket is light as hell!!

[hmurphy]

Just another update. He's getting what he deserves for doing literally next to nothing on this bike. The motor is out getting the header studs helicoiled. Nylon is all ready to be bolted on. Will be cool to see another rider at Wellington buckets.

[Bert]

.....The motor is out getting the header studs helicoiled. .

a little suggestion here; I personally never had a lot of luck with helicoiled header studs (and head studs); they always seemed to fail.. we made up some stepped studs and took them out to 10mm (and Araldite them in permanently) and out as far as 12mm for headstuds..

but if you (your mate) are going this current path maybe fill them up with Araldite (high temp 24hr type) so the studs don't come undone; then its only a case of tightening up nuts with copper washers (copper expands, keeps the nuts from falling off when running; to a point).

I'm sure others will have a different view on this, I was a bit iffy about it at first; but its never failed since...

[hmurphy]

Ah ok cheers thanks for that. I have lock tight too which I plan on using but I will look into getting some of the high temperature, permanent stuff for the header studs. Thanks for the input, appreciate it!

[Kendog]

Nice work.
Will it be ready for the last round in October?

[hmurphy]

Cheers. I really spent a lot of my time on this bike. Learnt a lot, made a lot of mistakes and finally got there. It's not even my f*ckin' bike. It should be 100% ready by the weekend. It's not all that fast at the moment though, will definitely need some 2 stroke pros to gimme a hand at tuning it. Another paying bucketer in the Welly area, just what we need!!

[Henk]

Good on you Hamish.
Just built a bike for a mate as well, third one for me off the same base bike so this one was easier than ours and faster since I didn't really have to think about anything. I didn't get to chose the paint scheme though which is a shame looking at what you have to put together.

[TZ350]

a little suggestion here; I personally never had a lot of luck with helicoiled header studs (and head studs); they always seemed to fail.. we made up some stepped studs and took them out to 10mm (and Araldite them in permanently) and out as far as 12mm for headstuds..

but if you (your mate) are going this current path maybe fill them up with Araldite (high temp 24hr type) so the studs don't come undone; then its only a case of tightening up nuts with copper washers (copper expands, keeps the nuts from falling off when running; to a point).

I'm sure others will have a different view on this, I was a bit iffy about it at first; but its never failed since...

A similar way of doing it, there are some pictures on my original post of the plugged stud holes....


The exhaust stub holes were stripped out and in the wrong place so I tapped them M8 and glued some threaded alloy plugs in with Devcon F.

When it came time to re-tap the holes M6 I found that the old welded repairs had moved the centres way off so the plugs did a great job of allowing me to get the new bolt holes in the right place.

I am very pleased with the finished job………:)

[koba]

Cheers. I really spent a lot of my time on this bike. Learnt a lot, made a lot of mistakes and finally got there. It's not even my f*ckin' bike. It should be 100% ready by the weekend. It's not all that fast at the moment though, will definitely need some 2 stroke pros to gimme a hand at tuning it. Another paying bucketer in the Welly area, just what we need!!

And a little boy waits...

[hmurphy]

Ha it's sitting finished at my place. It needs a little tidying up but good to go. It's far too slow though, needs a 2 stroke pro to tune it.

[F5 Dave]

Get him out & ride it. A simple pipe, MX ignition & some porting should see it paste an FXR if he proves worthy.

[hmurphy]

I really don't doubt his riding skills aye. The bike needs some help though. There are a couple things I would like to change but don't wanna spend any more money on his bike and I am busy these days. My own bike needs working on too! I really think the bike has potential and the rider too.