I challenge

[carver]

Shaun Harris to a race!

come on shaun, man up and race me!

on minimoto's!

[Clivoris]

He's not that quick bro. I already beat him in a race around the pits at Manfield. It was in white vans with a Le Mans start. To be fair, he didn't know we were racing and was busy working on some suzuki thing at the time, but I kicked his arse.:wari:

[kiwifruit]

He'd learn you!

[Tony.OK]

Would a mini moto actually be "mini" sized to Shaun? :innocent:

[Clivoris]

Would a mini moto actually be "mini" sized to Shaun? :innocent:

Bwahaha. Must spread blah blah blah.... He's gonna get you man.

[scrivy]

Shaun Harris to a race!

come on shaun, man up and race me!

on minimoto's!

Nah, he'd rather race you to the bar!!! :wari:

[Shaun]

Shaun Harris to a race!

come on shaun, man up and race me!

on minimoto's!


WHEN?WHERE, and what bike are giving me to rape! I do believe to T Bone some one on minimotos is ok as well?

[Clivoris]

:jerry: There must be some way to turn this into a Sketchy-racer fundraiser? A grudge match around the club circuit (using the slip road) at manfield at one of the Actrix rounds? Pass the hat around the pits until we get x-dollars then it's on? Auction off a ride on other minimotos to those wanting to give Carver and Shaun the learn? Am I getting carried away? Better take my morning meds.

[Shaun]

:jerry: There must be some way to turn this into a sketchy-racer fundraiser? A grudge match around the club circuit (using the slip road) at manfield at one of the actrix rounds? Pass the hat around the pits until we get x-dollars then it's on? Auction off a ride on other minimotos to those wanting to give carver and shaun the learn? Am i getting carried away? Better take my morning meds.



do it sport!!!!!!

[Foxzee]

Yeah come on guys do it.............:yes:

[Tony.OK]

C'mon Carver...................6th September, Hawkes Bay go cart track at Roys Hill, PMCC is holding a mini moto and motard event.

Am sure Nigel wouldn't say no to a lunchtime special event. Would be a great spectacle.

I'll sponsor a box of piss for the winner:rockon:

[Clivoris]

C'mon Carver...................6th September, Hawkes Bay go cart track at Roys Hill, PMCC is holding a mini moto and motard event.

Am sure Nigel wouldn't say no to a lunchtime special event. Would be a great spectacle.

I'll sponsor a box of piss for the winner:rockon:

Yeah Baby.

[crazefox]

Shaun Harris to a race!

come on shaun, man up and race me!

on minimoto's!

HA you will pussy out

[tri boy]

Oh this will be well worth attending:Punk:
The gremlin mugs the gay boy.
They will write rock lyrics about it in years to come.
(Let Rose Tattoo know about this event pronto).

I witnessed what shaun can achieve on a minimoto first hand in 89/90 at a mini track.
Wiped the floor with guys from the summer series that year on the tiny lil thing:Punk:
Raced clean n tidy on the wee minimoto too:innocent::2guns::shutup:
Never seen a grin that big last so long.:done:

[carver]

HA you will pussy out

You will pussy out!


C'mon Carver...................6th September, Hawkes Bay go cart track at Roys Hill, PMCC is holding a mini moto and motard event.

Am sure Nigel wouldn't say no to a lunchtime special event. Would be a great spectacle.

I'll sponsor a box of piss for the winner:rockon:

not a bad idea!


:jerry: There must be some way to turn this into a Sketchy-racer fundraiser? A grudge match around the club circuit (using the slip road) at manfield at one of the Actrix rounds? Pass the hat around the pits until we get x-dollars then it's on? Auction off a ride on other minimotos to those wanting to give Carver and Shaun the learn? Am I getting carried away? Better take my morning meds.

who would want to give me the learn?


WHEN?WHERE, and what bike are giving me to rape! I do believe to T Bone some one on minimotos is ok as well?

somewhere local!

[nigela]

C'mon Carver...................6th September, Hawkes Bay go cart track at Roys Hill, PMCC is holding a mini moto and motard event.

Am sure Nigel wouldn't say no to a lunchtime special event. Would be a great spectacle.

I'll sponsor a box of piss for the winner:rockon:

Why not expand a little. Get a few celebrities or at least people who should know better, we'll give them a couple of bikes and pass the hat around while everyone's wetting themselves laughing.
All we need is to pick a charity to raise the money for

[Tony.OK]

Why not expand a little. Get a few celebrities or at least people who should know better, we'll give them a couple of bikes and pass the hat around while everyone's wetting themselves laughing.
All we need is to pick a charity to raise the money for

I have been called a charity case before...................does that count? :innocent:

This could actually turn into a great media event couldn't it, now I'd love to see Stroudy on a mini moto, he's all arms and legs on a real bike:yes:

[Sidewinder]

fuck here we go!
now half the people at manfield are going to know who i am if it happens there.
that was my last biker safe spot!

[Clivoris]

I'd pay to see LG Eddie #9 tied in knots on a minimoto:laugh:

[Foxzee]

Yeah Baby.

Wot he said.......

:done:

[Shaun]

You will pussy out!



not a bad idea!



who would want to give me the learn?



somewhere local!


Where is local for you mate? Taranaki, Manfield, Hamilton?

I do like the Manfield idea though, to try and generate Finance support for Sketchy racer programme, and it would be a good laugh for the crew there:done:

[Shaun]

Oh this will be well worth attending:Punk:
The gremlin mugs the gay boy.
They will write rock lyrics about it in years to come.
(Let Rose Tattoo know about this event pronto).

I witnessed what shaun can achieve on a minimoto first hand in 89/90 at a mini track.
Wiped the floor with guys from the summer series that year on the tiny lil thing:Punk:
Raced clean n tidy on the wee minimoto too:innocent::2guns::shutup:
Never seen a grin that big last so long.:done:



I do not remember that one Brett, but do remember you were one of the best mechanics that I have worked with on the race tracks here, cheers man.

[Shaun]

Why not expand a little. Get a few celebrities or at least people who should know better, we'll give them a couple of bikes and pass the hat around while everyone's wetting themselves laughing.
All we need is to pick a charity to raise the money for


NO thanks, I give enough away all the time! If this happens and there is money to be givin away, it goes to Sketchy racer programme only Sorry.

[Sidewinder]

I'd pay to see LG Eddie #9 tied in knots on a minimoto:laugh:

well he wears kids shirts

[carver]

Where is local for you mate? Taranaki, Manfield, Hamilton?

I do like the Manfield idea though, to try and generate Finance support for Sketchy racer programme, and it would be a good laugh for the crew there:done:

Hamilton is local 4 me dude.
you really need a go kart track to get things going.
im riding a D1!

[Skunk]

Manfeild.
Shaun vs Carver.
Bets on who wins. Profits to Sketchy.

Hamilton is local 4 me dude.
Are you chickening out already carver? Manfeild to far and public for your humiliation?

[Sidewinder]

Manfeild.
Shaun vs Carver.
Bets on who wins. Profits to Sketchy.

Are you chickening out already carver? Manfeild to far and public for your humiliation?

yea and me and glen can have a race aswell. bring back the old days lol:scooter:

[Shaun]

Manfeild.
Shaun vs Carver.
Bets on who wins. Profits to Sketchy.

Are you chickening out already carver? Manfeild to far and public for your humiliation?



nice to see the Shit has begun already:rockon:

Manfield Carver, and you have a date, hey, I will probally embarres myself, But are used to doing that any way

So who has a pocket pocket for me to ride then Carver? I have toys, but all a bit bigger than what you are talking about:done:

[Sidewinder]

ill see if we can make it the LG lunch time special. maybe more intertaining than the 1198 last time

[carver]

nice to see the Shit has begun already:rockon:

Manfield Carver, and you have a date, hey, I will probally embarres myself, But are used to doing that any way

So who has a pocket pocket for me to ride then Carver? I have toys, but all a bit bigger than what you are talking about:done:

ah, sure thing, il go to minefield for that

you'll have to ask the minimoto boys for one to ride, i only have one!

the weekend is cool with you?

[Shaun]

ah, sure thing, il go to minefield for that

you'll have to ask the minimoto boys for one to ride, i only have one!

the weekend is cool with you?



You maid the challenge, you arrange the tools dude, I have enough shit going on with my life to start begging for a pocket rocket ( No insult to there riders, remember, I am a old man)

[carver]

You maid the challenge, you arrange the tools dude, I have enough shit going on with my life to start begging for a pocket rocket ( No insult to there riders, remember, I am a old man)

haha, i will see what i can do

[Shaun]

haha, i will see what i can do


Go hard Bucko, you have got me keen now, I might even enter the Novice class at manfeild on the 24th to get some practise.

[Foxzee]

yea and me and glen can have a race aswell. bring back the old days lol:scooter:

Oh no here were go........lol:gob:

[Sidewinder]

Oh no here were go........lol:gob:

we can go to up hun:shutup:

[Foxzee]

we can go to up hun:shutup:

:rofl:

That would be funny as fark babe.....lol

[Sidewinder]

:rofl:

That would be funny as fark babe.....lol

sweet thats us. you will have to sit on the tank and bend over tho:woohoo:

[Foxzee]

sweet thats us. you will have to sit on the tank and bend over tho:woohoo:

That would make an interesting stoppie....LOL:shit:

We can get Carver to 2 up with Coffee Junkie.......now that would be funny lol.....:blink:

[Sidewinder]

That would make an interesting stoppie....LOL:shit:

We can get Carver to 2 up with Coffee Junkie.......now that would be funny lol.....:blink:

i dont think that would ever happen

[carver]

fuck here we go!
now half the people at manfield are going to know who i am if it happens there.
that was my last biker safe spot!

its not all about you ya know

[Sidewinder]

its not all about you ya know

yea its also about my sex drive and DMTD timaaaaaaay

[idleidolidyll]

Why?

Shaun has already proven he's been a better rider than you may ever be. Nobody on the planet can or needs to continue to prove to every young punk that they are better forever and ever.

Shaun is a damaged old rider; all you'd 'win' is jerkoff points ("I 'beat' a retired racer who almost died and is permanently damaged'......yawn)

Once you can win a race at the IOM, you can stand beside the likes of Shaun and think about a comparison.

In the meantime, make a name for yourself where it counts: amongst your peers on the race tracks of today.

I haven't seen you in those results yet jonny

[carver]

Why?

Shaun has already proven he's been a better rider than you may ever be. Nobody on the planet can or needs to continue to prove to every young punk that they are better forever and ever.

Shaun is a damaged old rider; all you'd 'win' is jerkoff points ("I 'beat' a retired racer who almost died and is permanently damaged'......yawn)

Once you can win a race at the IOM, you can stand beside the likes of Shaun and think about a comparison.

In the meantime, make a name for yourself where it counts: amongst your peers on the race tracks of today.

I haven't seen you in those results yet jonny

but think of how silly it would be!
i have nothing to prove-apart from that im a wanker!

Drew aka andrew mair has got me beat on that one though

[Sketchy_Racer]

Why?

Shaun has already proven he's been a better rider than you may ever be. Nobody on the planet can or needs to continue to prove to every young punk that they are better forever and ever.

Shaun is a damaged old rider; all you'd 'win' is jerkoff points ("I 'beat' a retired racer who almost died and is permanently damaged'......yawn)

Once you can win a race at the IOM, you can stand beside the likes of Shaun and think about a comparison.

In the meantime, make a name for yourself where it counts: amongst your peers on the race tracks of today.

I haven't seen you in those results yet jonny

Shit, haven't you ever heard of a good laugh?? You know when you do silly stuff that puts a smile on your face (A smile is an expression you put on your face when you're happy, it seems you may not know what one is by that post.)

Chill out, and have some fun!

[Sidewinder]

Shit, haven't you ever heard of a good laugh?? You know when you do silly stuff that puts a smile on your face (A smile is an expression you put on your face when you're happy, it seems you may not know what one is by that post.)

Chill out, and have some fun!
i will own you, oh wait i did!:bash:

[idleidolidyll]

but think of how silly it would be!
i have nothing to prove-apart from that im a wanker!

Drew aka andrew mair has got me beat on that one though

no, you don't have that to prove..............

i've done this before in a way and Shaun is in the same win/win position I was but even stronger given he was an international success

he's a damaged old bastard with nothing to prove, a family to go back to and a history of kicking arse behind him

what you get if you 'win' is the glory of saying you beat a crippled old guy twice your age who doesn't need to win any more

my suggestion is to take to the track and see where you really stand; hell, you might even surprise some folk

[carver]

no, you don't have that to prove..............

i've done this before in a way and Shaun is in the same win/win position I was but even stronger given he was an international success

he's a damaged old bastard with nothing to prove, a family to go back to and a history of kicking arse behind him

what you get if you 'win' is the glory of saying you beat a crippled old guy twice your age who doesn't need to win any more

my suggestion is to take to the track and see where you really stand; hell, you might even surprise some folk

hell, it is the track, and if its for charity, i dont mind entertaining a few to better someone else...
i really dont care about winning, its more about binning from trying too hard

[DELLORTO]

hell, it is the track, and if its for charity, i dont mind entertaining a few to better someone else...
i really dont care about winning, its more about binning from trying too hard

come to mt wellington on the 20th of sep to have your race......all us bucket guys would love to watch you guys have your crashes

[carver]

come to mt wellington on the 20th of sep to have your race......all us bucket guys would love to watch you guys have your crashes

im keen-most bins wins!

[ajturbo]

i'm there for the crashes....

is there a finish line?....

i have $10 that says Shaun will fall off first...
and an extra $10 if carver and run him over...

[Sidewinder]

i'm there for the crashes....

is there a finish line?....

i have $10 that says Shaun will fall off first...
and an extra $10 if carver and run him over...

bets on for how many more teeth will fall out:wari::wari::wari:

[scrivy]

bets on for how many more teeth will fall out:wari::wari::wari:

Well yeah, but there's a reason for Shaun having teeth out.............
The gaps keep his ciggies located in his mouth without having to use his hand...... :yes::shutup::eek5:

[Foxzee]

i'm there for the crashes....

is there a finish line?....

i have $10 that says Shaun will fall off first...
and an extra $10 if carver and run him over...

You need to be more concerned about the start line Turbo....clutch...clutch let it go...come on you no you can do it....ahhhh there you go see the clutch can be your friend.......oh and you're moving....well done brother!!!!!:eek5:

[Sidewinder]

Well yeah, but there's a reason for Shaun having teeth out.............
The gaps keep his ciggies located in his mouth without having to use his hand...... :yes::shutup::eek5:
i should try that.
weres my plyers

[DELLORTO]

im keen-most bins wins!

na i think you need jousting sticks!!

[Sidewinder]

na i think you need jousting sticks!!

what big dildos to match the ego's?

[carver]

na i think you need jousting sticks!!

i would not hurt a old man

[sinfull]

i should try that.
weres my plyers
I got some !!! Commmmeeerr !\


i would not hurt a old man

An !!!!
If it's a vowel that heads the word your leading up to (a, e, i, o, u and sometimes w or y) you stick an n on the a, (unless it's when your describing bad punctuation then an before n works too when describing the thing) English language, something the japs have a better grasp of than most europeans ! If it sounds weird with an a, use an an !!!! Only Hitcher would know !!!

Love ya too Hitch

[Sidewinder]

I got some !!! Commmmeeerr !\

give me a smoke and a beer 1st

[sinfull]

give me a smoke and a beer 1stI got better than that, Two tramals and a box of beer and you won't care what was whipped out lol

[Sidewinder]

I got better than that, Two tramals and a box of beer and you won't care what was whipped out lol

nah i like barcardi 151 proof

[sinfull]

nah i like barcardi 151 proof
Barcardi ? You mean like in white rum ? The shit girls drink to make them fall over all silly like ?

[Sidewinder]

Barcardi ? You mean like in white rum ? The shit girls drink to make them fall over all silly like ?

nah its the imported stuff, its brown and is 80%

[sinfull]

nah its the imported stuff, its brown and is 80%
Awwww ok a bit of brown makes the world go round !!! BRB Dipshit wants me bwahahahaha

[Benk]

nah its the imported stuff, its brown and is 80%

Tough. Haha

[ajturbo]

i have a thought




is it ok to give a flatmate the bash???

[Shaun]

but think of how silly it would be!
i have nothing to prove-apart from that im a wanker!

Drew aka andrew mair has got me beat on that one though



every one is beatable dude, and dont ever forget that, RE what MR IDLE says ( Thanks for the praise) who gives a shit about the past, that has been and gone and it;s time to move on. Bring it on mate, it will be a shit load of fun I am sure


Aparently I am old and crippled, old yes, crippled NO, I can still crash as good as any one, was laughing my tits of atb being able to still do it during my crash at Timaru in the NZ Champs last season, so if that makes me SICK, " Better get a bucket" I still love this game as much as the daI started in 1996 on a sidecar.

[Sidewinder]

i have a thought




is it ok to give a flatmate the bash???

um is there any reason why it wouldnt be?

[sinfull]

um is there any reason why it wouldnt be?

Women stuff !!!

[Sidewinder]

Women stuff !!!

oh true, catch that shit up! cheaper to get a hooker, dont cost as much and atleast you always get sex!

[smoky]

Why?

Shaun has already proven he's been a better rider than you may ever be. Nobody Bla bla bla bla...............

Bla bla bla bla...............' is jerkoff points

Once you can win a race at the IOM, you can Bla bla bla bla...............

In the meantime, Bla bla bla bla...............

Take chill pill dude - it's just a bit of fun

I know Carver pushes a few peoples buttons - but don't take things seriously man

[Foxzee]

i have a thought




is it ok to give a flatmate the bash???

don't beat me with the clutch....no not the clutch...AJ stop.....just let it go....

[sugilite]

This sounds like a great charity event in the making. If enough of these mini motos could be secured, I'd be keen. Anyone wanna see a 6'6 rider on a minimoto? :lol: (and yes I'd give it my all!)

[ajturbo]

how can one be angry with someone that takes and gives the piss like ZAK???

think the bash may help still...

[carver]

every one is beatable dude, and dont ever forget that, RE what MR IDLE says ( Thanks for the praise) who gives a shit about the past, that has been and gone and it;s time to move on. Bring it on mate, it will be a shit load of fun I am sure


Aparently I am old and crippled, old yes, crippled NO, I can still crash as good as any one, was laughing my tits of atb being able to still do it during my crash at Timaru in the NZ Champs last season, so if that makes me SICK, " Better get a bucket" I still love this game as much as the daI started in 1996 on a sidecar.

sweet!
i am keen on that one dude.

we just need to finalise a time.

Mt welly cool for you?

[Foxzee]

sweet!
i am keen on that one dude.

we just need to finalise a time.

Mt welly cool for you?

Yes we do.....Manfeild....come on boyz 22nd August....

Shaun....you can do it.....nail Carver pleeeeze.....

[sinfull]

how can one be angry with someone that takes and gives the piss like ZAK???

think the bash may help still...
One mention of a clutch and you weaken at the knees ! Sheeeesh man !!!

[Sidewinder]

One mention of a clutch and you weaken at the knees ! Sheeeesh man !!!

he even makes you look like a man:woohoo:

[sinfull]

he even makes you look like a man:woohoo:
That will be the lack of bears bike aye ??/

[Sidewinder]

That will be the lack of bears bike aye ??/

mmm bears, that simlar to dnf?:bash::bash::bash::Oops::bye:

[sinfull]

mmm bears, that simlar to dnf?:bash::bash::bash::Oops::bye:
lol least they're on the start line !!!
But ya did make me look to see what ya riding and yep paints a good picture i recon lol !!!!

[carver]

Yes we do.....Manfeild....come on boyz 22nd August....

Shaun....you can do it.....nail Carver pleeeeze.....

sidewinder gives me a good nailing from time to time

[Shaun]

sweet!
i am keen on that one dude.

we just need to finalise a time.

Mt welly cool for you?



Mt Welly ie, Auckland

If so YES, BUT ANY FUNDS raised are for the Sketchy Racer dude, no one and nothing else, or I will use my time in my buisness to make some money for him, PS, this is me and you only dude, not interested in a race with a bunch of loonies, just the 2 of us



PS, I hope you do not mind TELEVISION being there to film it?

[carver]

Mt Welly ie, Auckland

If so YES, BUT ANY FUNDS raised are for the Sketchy Racer dude, no one and nothing else, or I will use my time in my buisness to make some money for him, PS, this is me and you only dude, not interested in a race with a bunch of loonies, just the 2 of us



PS, I hope you do not mind TELEVISION being there to film it?

sounds good!

i have no problem with being a professional clown

[Shaun S]

I like this :niceone:
Might ride up to watch.

[Morcs]

I like this too.

Ill even cross town to watch :bleh:

[CHOPPA]

Challenge sounds like its been accepted..... Whats the rules and what size bikes etc you gonna run???

Might have to get into the minimoto threads and see if you can get some loaners!

Ill take the bets (not sure who will pay em though)

[carver]

Challenge sounds like its been accepted..... Whats the rules and what size bikes etc you gonna run???

Might have to get into the minimoto threads and see if you can get some loaners!

Ill take the bets (not sure who will pay em though)

i have a D1, so shaun will have to have the same i guess!

how about you join in?
make it a threesome

[doc]

After last years attempt at the Kiwi hill climb. What are you going to do if a couple of Kb'r shelias can get further up the hill.

:devil2:

[Sidewinder]

After last years attempt at the Kiwi hill climb. What are you going to do if a couple of Kb'r shelias can get further up the hill.

:devil2:
well ill try and get them into my tent wont i!

[carver]

After last years attempt at the Kiwi hill climb. What are you going to do if a couple of Kb'r shelias can get further up the hill.

:devil2:

Beta Techno....

google it

[Foxzee]

well ill try and get them into my tent wont i!

Ohhh you two timer......lol....

[Sidewinder]

Ohhh you two timer......lol....

im a slut of no luck

[ajturbo]

That will be the lack of bears bike aye ??/
there is talk of a new bears bike in welly soon..........:shifty:

[sinfull]

there is talk of a new bears bike in welly soon..........:shifty:
Awwww yeah ? ya tease ! Spill !

[Shaun]

sounds good!

i have no problem with being a professional clown



YO, this IF it happens is ME and YOU only Bro, NO other crashers bashers, I have NO dam interested in a bunch of loonies on Pocket bikes, as I have NO interest in being taken out by some one elses F up on one.

Now if you or I F up, sey la vie, you challenged, I accepted

[carver]

YO, this IF it happens is ME and YOU only Bro, NO other crashers bashers, I have NO dam interested in a bunch of loonies on Pocket bikes, as I have NO interest in being taken out by some one elses F up on one.

Now if you or I F up, sey la vie, you challenged, I accepted

sweet, im down with that, i am just getting the minimoto worked on atm

[Clivoris]

So. Where is this happening and has anyone worked out how to turn it into a fundraiser?

[carver]

So. Where is this happening and has anyone worked out how to turn it into a fundraiser?

i will leave that up to you n00bs!

[Shaun]

Some one just call me when all the shit stops eh

[smoky]

Some one just call me when all the shit stops eh

we've been waiting for a few years for that to happen

[Maha]

sweet, im down with that, i am just getting the minimoto worked on atm

Quit stalling and front up...:scooter:

[Foxzee]

So Boyzzzzz....have we nailed this down yet...or is Carver just all talky talky....

Bum don't ya just hate the person that brings up a thread from a week ago...."giggles":rolleyes:

[carver]

So Boyzzzzz....have we nailed this down yet...or is Carver just all talky talky....

Bum don't ya just hate the person that brings up a thread from a week ago...."giggles":rolleyes:

some people thought i was all talk.
till they saw my profile pic

[Deano]

some people thought i was all talk.
till they saw my profile pic

Yeah all respect bro, but there wasn't an angry ginga gemlin lurking below that bridge !!

[Foxzee]

some people thought i was all talk.
till they saw my profile pic


Must go have a looky then.....

[carver]

Yeah all respect bro, but there wasn't an angry ginga gemlin lurking below that bridge !!

only a river...and traffic on the bridge

[Foxzee]

Must go have a looky then.....

Seen it now....

Is that it!!!!!...you possibly falling into a puddle of mud.....gawd!!!!:rolleyes:

[carver]

Seen it now....

Is that it!!!!!...you possibly falling into a puddle of mud.....gawd!!!!:rolleyes:

have a go yourself!

[Foxzee]

have a go yourself!

K...wait there...I've got a good copy and paste thing on my puta...me and britney spears plus the bling dog will all do it together on one bike backwards....lol

[Sidewinder]

K...wait there...I've got a good copy and paste thing on my puta...me and britney spears plus the bling dog will all do it together on one bike backwards....lol

what doggy style?:baby:

[carver]

k...wait there...i've got a good copy and paste thing on my puta...me and britney spears plus the bling dog will all do it together on one bike backwards....lol

haha, and make a vid with police audio too

[Foxzee]

what doggy style?:baby:

No...it will be dodgey style......gawd the handbag...to carry the bling dog, Britney and Carver.....