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Monty69
11th August 2009, 18:39
I own a '97 CBR600, my first "big bike" after many sporty 250s. Im getn to the stage where i can ride it confidently throw it around and put the power to better use (took a bit of getting used to after the wee 250s) but now i wana pull wheelstands too.. without stacking it. I know the bike is more than capable, im just a bit nervous. Im told big twins like vtr1000 or sv/tls will lift the front wheel with pretty much just full throttle in lower gears, but a mid size 4 will need more encouragement... aka, clutch. Is it going to cause a lot of wear clutching it up? and any genuine tips and knowledge is appreciated:yes:

idleidolidyll
11th August 2009, 18:45
I own a '97 CBR600, my first "big bike" after many sporty 250s. Im getn to the stage where i can ride it confidently throw it around and put the power to better use (took a bit of getting used to after the wee 250s) but now i wana pull wheelstands too.. without stacking it. I know the bike is more than capable, im just a bit nervous. Im told big twins like vtr1000 or sv/tls will lift the front wheel with pretty much just full throttle in lower gears, but a mid size 4 will need more encouragement... aka, clutch. Is it going to cause a lot of wear clutching it up? and any genuine tips and knowledge is appreciated:yes:

you're gonna wreck the clutch and chain and you stand a real chance of dropping it and losing skin.

go practice on a trail bike first where the landing is softer

you'll find that the funniest thing (for your mates) is watching you run behind the wheelstanding bike desperately trying to close the throttle before she goes right over.................

Mom
11th August 2009, 18:46
I own a '97 CBR600, my first "big bike" after many sporty 250s. Im getn to the stage where i can ride it confidently throw it around and put the power to better use (took a bit of getting used to after the wee 250s) but now i wana pull wheelstands too.. without stacking it. I know the bike is more than capable, im just a bit nervous. Im told big twins like vtr1000 or sv/tls will lift the front wheel with pretty much just full throttle in lower gears, but a mid size 4 will need more encouragement... aka, clutch. Is it going to cause a lot of wear clutching it up? and any genuine tips and knowledge is appreciated:yes:

Go and buy yourself a little off road buzz bomb and practise. It is surprisingly easy to lift the front wheel when you least expect it sometimes and it can come with a bit of a :gob: moment as well.

crazyhorse
11th August 2009, 18:47
me too - mee too!!!!! gonna practise on my son's RMZ250!!!!

AllanB
11th August 2009, 18:54
do a search on u-tube for wheelie - you may change your mind!

YellowDog
11th August 2009, 19:00
Someone posted a really good "Gentle introduction to wheelies" a couple of weeks ago. I had never done one on my own bike before as I didn't want to fark the forks and everything else. But I must say it is quite good fun and if you keep good control, there is no need to bang the front back down.

Kendog
11th August 2009, 19:11
How to wheelie (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=superbike) according to Superbike magazine

YellowDog
11th August 2009, 19:18
Yep, that's the one.

Very good.

The Pastor
11th August 2009, 19:55
mate 1st gear, acclerate, back full off accerlate again, you'll get the hang of it in no time

StoneY
11th August 2009, 20:03
do a search on u-tube for wheelie - you may change your mind!

AgreeD!
Its madness wanting to wheelie king on road bikes (I imagine your gonna do it on the roads I use too?):Oops:

Used to do massive long ones on my ol XR200 way way back...on dirt and paddocks mostly:wari:

325rocket
11th August 2009, 20:03
me too - mee too!!!!! gonna practise on my son's RMZ250!!!!

can i?

check out This guys (http://www.youtube.com/user/downshift83#play/uploads/85/FbiiCqgHgKA) vids. best ones i have found.

jamestwin
11th August 2009, 20:54
id love to learn to but i think il take my time :D
still very very noob

sosman
11th August 2009, 21:05
As my wheelie Guru told me with a wee pat on the head..."boi if wana learn to do wheelies!...then learn on everyone else's bike!

So i did Muhaha!

sosman
11th August 2009, 21:15
All the experts will give you some advice which is cool,but you aren't gonna remember anything they say at the time of when ya in the process of attempting one!
So ya gonna have to trial & error...So go practice on a long up hill some where[less effort getting the front wheel up & reduces picking up speed at the same time]

Gareth51
11th August 2009, 21:16
I don't want to do wheelies,only had the triple for less than a week and I can't seem to keep the front wheel on the ground :Oops:

Hiflyer
11th August 2009, 21:17
look at this for a smooth landing :) I realy like it. Very smooth and wont ruin the forks tooo much. I wonder how much he had to practice though hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-opdsdpe9M&feature=PlayList&p=22217765B643A9EF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1


EDIT: Had to remove PHP code

slydesigns
11th August 2009, 22:50
This is my inspiration at the moment. Still working on the speed control though. Found a 15tooth down from a 16tooth front sprocket has helped heaps with smoothing things out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_liD8oJ9w&feature=related

Gremlin
12th August 2009, 01:24
If you insist on trying on your cbr, take it slow.

First try faster acceleration from standstill. Get used to having the front lift off the ground just a little, and how important your balance on the bike becomes.

Build from there, slowly doing bigger and bigger wheelies, you'll find that different bikes will respond differently to inputs.

No rush... it will get easier over time, and remember, just about everyone who is great at wheelies has written off at least one bike. :Oops:

Morcs
12th August 2009, 10:46
No clutch needed on a 600. Precise judgement and throttle control and the throttle is all you need.

But be careful, from experience, an IL4 can quickly go over backwards as you reach high revs suddenly.

I found the twins to be good at pulling the front up, and thats about it.

Squiggles
12th August 2009, 14:44
We taking bets that he 12's it?

idleidolidyll
12th August 2009, 15:39
give it 17,000 revs, then drop the clutch suddenly but make sure all your mates are watching because it will be a total riot to watch.
Oh, and have an ambulance waiting...............

but seriously, best to start slowly, that vid from superbike is OK

little steps, little leaps and don't get all carried away with yourself or they'll have to carry you away.

PS: I dunno anyone who hasn't crashed a bike whilst practising or doing wheelies at some time

Monty69
12th August 2009, 17:03
Awesome! heaps of good tips in there guys, oo and gals. I used to ride dirtbikes heaps when i was younger, but never thought to practice wheelies then dam it. Oh well ill just start trying to pop it up in little bits, I really dont wana stack my baby, or 12er it in front of my mates but im keen. Hopefully my next post isnt "OH FU#*K" :niceone:

Sparky Bills
12th August 2009, 17:46
1st gear...
Practise rolling on the throttle and get used to the front wheel feeling light. As you get more comfortable bring it up higher. Just do little bits at a time.
Practise rolling on, lifting the fron and bringing it down just as smooth.

As you get used to that you will be able to lift the front higher. But start easy. Theres no rush.

Just remember to let the front down smooth too. Otherwise you will stuff all the bearings etc in your steering head etc.

So roll on smooth, roll off smooth.
AND ALWAYS COVER THE REAR BRAKE... just in case :blank:

Little at a time. You WILL get there if you DONT rush into it.

Good luck.
I want pics when you do get offf the ground!

slydesigns
12th August 2009, 18:42
12 as in 12 O'clock... when the big wheel points straight up... and then over on its back and your head.

Stunt bikes fit 12 O'clock bars to the rear of the subframe to allow them to go near vertical and dragging the bar makes sparks...meh :scratch:

Maha
12th August 2009, 18:54
Awesome! heaps of good tips in there guys, oo and gals. I used to ride dirtbikes heaps when i was younger, but never thought to practice wheelies then dam it. Oh well ill just start trying to pop it up in little bits, I really dont wana stack my baby, or 12er it in front of my mates but im keen. Hopefully my next post isnt "OH FU#*K" :niceone:

Practice on one of these, you cant fall off (well you shouldn't) and you cant break it....:eek:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129205120&postcount=1

carver
12th August 2009, 19:43
I own a '97 CBR600, my first "big bike" after many sporty 250s. Im getn to the stage where i can ride it confidently throw it around and put the power to better use (took a bit of getting used to after the wee 250s) but now i wana pull wheelstands too.. without stacking it. I know the bike is more than capable, im just a bit nervous. Im told big twins like vtr1000 or sv/tls will lift the front wheel with pretty much just full throttle in lower gears, but a mid size 4 will need more encouragement... aka, clutch. Is it going to cause a lot of wear clutching it up? and any genuine tips and knowledge is appreciated:yes:

you want to do standups


me too - mee too!!!!! gonna practise on my son's RMZ250!!!!

why not use the gixxer, its fucking easy in 2nd!

CHOPPA
13th August 2009, 15:43
Everyone can wheely or think they can, try doing some 100k rolling stoppies! Id be far more impressed watching someone do a 200m stoppie then a flat out stand up wheely

boomer
13th August 2009, 15:48
Everyone can wheely or think they can, try doing some 100k rolling stoppies! Id be far more impressed watching someone do a 200m stoppie then a flat out stand up wheely

if the wheels of the ground its a wheelie, just like if u have no hair you're a bald coont.. !


Simple really.

Sparkys advice worked for me.. i think i can wheelie.

Monty69
13th August 2009, 16:54
Cheers sparky, thats my main goal is to take my time and NOT stack it. And to cause as little wear on the clutch and bearings and forks etc as possible. I havent dropped a road bike yet and dont plan on it, although with the amount of idiot car drivers i encounter everyday in christchurch, its just a matter of time:crybaby:
Oh and Choppa, i dont think i wana do stoppies, it looks even harder and more painful if you go to far:crazy: And my brakes are pretty av, standard 2pots. Even my mates '91 vfr400r has 4pots dam it

CHOPPA
13th August 2009, 18:00
if the wheels of the ground its a wheelie, just like if u have no hair you're a bald coont.. !


Simple really.

Sparkys advice worked for me.. i think i can wheelie.

Front wheelie just sounds gay...

carver
13th August 2009, 18:17
Cheers sparky, thats my main goal is to take my time and NOT stack it. And to cause as little wear on the clutch and bearings and forks etc as possible. I havent dropped a road bike yet and dont plan on it, although with the amount of idiot car drivers i encounter everyday in christchurch, its just a matter of time:crybaby:
Oh and Choppa, i dont think i wana do stoppies, it looks even harder and more painful if you go to far:crazy: And my brakes are pretty av, standard 2pots. Even my mates '91 vfr400r has 4pots dam it

just dont roll the stoppie into cars

Chrislost
17th August 2009, 21:40
I own a '97 CBR600, my first "big bike" after many sporty 250s. Im getn to the stage where i can ride it confidently throw it around and put the power to better use (took a bit of getting used to after the wee 250s) but now i wana pull wheelstands too.. without stacking it. I know the bike is more than capable, im just a bit nervous. Im told big twins like vtr1000 or sv/tls will lift the front wheel with pretty much just full throttle in lower gears, but a mid size 4 will need more encouragement... aka, clutch. Is it going to cause a lot of wear clutching it up? and any genuine tips and knowledge is appreciated:yes:

fuck using the clutch!
1st gear, where the power starts to pick up rapidly (around 10k revs?) back full gas, and pull on the bar.
if that dosn't wheelie then give up.

Chrislost
17th August 2009, 21:41
just dont roll the stoppie into cars

its better when you watch your mate go through the back window of a subie waggon after it dosnt see his headlight...

Chrislost
17th August 2009, 21:42
No clutch needed on a 600. Precise judgement and throttle control and the throttle is all you need.

But be careful, from experience, an IL4 can quickly go over backwards as you reach high revs suddenly.

I found the twins to be good at pulling the front up, and thats about it.

didnt you loop a single? twice...

Jubba
17th August 2009, 21:48
get an old dirt bike first and get the hang of pulling them on that.i had a gpx 400 and was trying to learn to do it on that and ended up making a dick of my self in the middle of an intersection.not good for me or the bike

Morcs
18th August 2009, 08:13
didnt you loop a single? twice...

Didnt technically loop twice... One was very early in the morning, half asleep, the other time I put it down and hit something :D

The Pastor
21st August 2009, 21:03
i do wheelies every day on the way home from work :)

Monty69
23rd August 2009, 18:13
I started popping it up in first gear, jst full throttle at 40kmh or so and pull back, without having to dip the clutch. Now i need to hook 2nd gear to keep it going... will it be alright shifting up without clutch under that much load? Or should i clutch

beyond
23rd August 2009, 18:30
Best way to wheelie is just rev the shit out of it and drop the clutch.
I personally guarantee you will wheelie no trouble at all but I will not be held responsible for the results. :)

sosman
23rd August 2009, 19:21
I started popping it up in first gear, jst full throttle at 40kmh or so and pull back, without having to dip the clutch. Now i need to hook 2nd gear to keep it going... will it be alright shifting up without clutch under that much load? Or should i clutch

changing gears with no clutch is sweet as,just make sure you do the gear change quick & thorough!....when ya changed gear & the front comes back down,then get the front up a bit more higher next time.

Monty69
24th August 2009, 17:14
sweet ill give it ago...

Jizah
28th August 2009, 11:47
sweet ill give it ago...

Keep us updated.

Metalor
28th August 2009, 23:56
Uh oohhhh....

I'd love to learn to wheelie... but alas, I don't ahve a dirt bike :(

2much
29th August 2009, 06:37
CLUTcH THAT SHIT! harden the fuck up n do it!!!

owner
29th August 2009, 13:47
Second gear will come up faster than first watch out
Clutch that shit up its the only way
You do realise you have springs on the front of your bike they are called suspension or something? use them
open throttle close throttle open throttle. presto wheelie

DEATH_INC.
29th August 2009, 16:02
Clutch that shit up its the only way
What he said...it'll come up higher easier and with less pace on, way better.
Be careful shifting, it's easier to fuck that up and flip it than pulling it up.
I use the clutch when shifting a wheelie, it's easier to control the change in acceleration that way, and if it comes back down while you're shifting, then you haven't got it high enough.
I suggest practicing getting closer to balancing point in first than trying to shift at this stage.