National Shooters Association

[KREWZR]

Member enrolment is now open for the National Shooter Association.

See this link:
National Shooters Association Temporary (http://nsa-temp.blogspot.com/)

Read more here:
Save our butts (http://frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com/2009/08/membership-to-nsa-is-open-now.html)

[Virago]

We've already got SSANZ and COLFO - why another Association?

[Indiana_Jones]

We've already got SSANZ and COLFO - why another Association?

Donno about the SSANZ, but the COLFO is a joke, they rolled over this lastest 'pistol grip' bollocks.

-Indy

[KREWZR]

We've already got SSANZ and COLFO - why another Association?

If you follow the links and check out the Save our Butts website you will see that neither of those two organisations are standing up to protect firearms license holders rights (which are currently under threat from Police). COLFO have decided that they do not get involved in domestic matters and that their focus is on the UN and international arms control.

The need for another organisation (to specialise in domestic firearms issues , litigation and advocacy) is so that you, your children and your grandchildren can continue to access their heritage and freedom to participate in sport shooting

good reason ay !

[sinfull]

Gimme a gun !!!

[Indiana_Jones]

Gimme a gun !!!

I donno, have you got a firearms licence?

-Indy

[Virago]

...The need for another organisation (to specialise in domestic firearms issues , litigation and advocacy) is so that you, your children and your grandchildren can continue to access their heritage and freedom to participate in sport shooting...

As a firearms owner, I'm more concerned about who else might access my "heritage", if I submit my name and address as required to an anonymous website.

[Indiana_Jones]

As a firearms owner, I'm more concerned about who else might access my "heritage", if I submit my name and address as required to an anonymous website.

A good point.

-Indy

[sinfull]

I donno, have you got a firearms licence?

-IndyDoh !
Assosiations they said !!!!!
Bah Ulll Shit, They already had guns !

[jono035]

I've signed up already, but you make a good point Virago. I'm sure Richard would keep the info under wraps but it would be interesting to see a privacy policy type document worked up for the association anyway.

[CookMySock]

This has got to be a pisstake. Theres no way thats a valid NSA site.

Steve

[KREWZR]

The site I've posted is genuine. It is however temporary so it doesnt 'look' the part. We are currently working on the NSA website which should be up & running in a few days. The alternative is to sign up by sending me an email. from my site:

http://frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com/2009/08/membership-to-nsa-is-open-now.html

No personal information will be given out. I am an IT systems professional and have secure servers at my business premisis. The membership role is kept in one secure file, not accessible to anyone but me personally. Anyone subscribing to 'Save our butts' will confirm that even the regular email update is always BCC to the membership. The NSA 'rules' (not to be confused with its constitution) are being drawn up at the moment... a very good point was raised here about a privacy policy. I will ensure that such a (tight) policy is adopted into those rules.

Cheers
R

[CookMySock]

The site I've posted is genuine. It is however temporary so it doesnt 'look' the part. We are currently working on the NSA website which should be up & running in a few days.Cmon mate, that sets off almost every possible alarm bell there is. No person in their right mind should put their private details into such a half-arsed attempt at collecting memberships - its daft.

That is such a common ploy on the internet - if you are genuine, you should shut it down immediately and stop putting your organisations' image at risk.


Steve

[Leyton]

Cmon mate, that sets off almost every possible alarm bell there is. No person in their right mind should put their private details into such a half-arsed attempt at collecting memberships - its daft.


Yeah it does seam a good method for thugs to get to know the handy address's that have firearms.. nice.:Police:

[Swoop]

Yeah it does seam a good method for thugs to get to know the handy address's that have firearms.. nice.:Police:
You are far too late. The police provided that information to the criminal fraternity when they supplied Trademe user details to people.

COLFO are sitting on their arses over this and should be more active. Unfortunately there are people at the top of the organisation who deal with police regularly and appear to have become a bit "friendly"...

[Leyton]

You are far too late. The police provided that information to the criminal fraternity when they supplied Trademe user details to people.


Haha yeah! I know about that. I have moved multiple times so no real concern to me.

Its all a bit stink eh

[Swoop]

Its all a bit stink eh
As one of those who had their details passed on, yeah... "a bit stink".

[Leyton]

As one of those who had their details passed on, yeah... "a bit stink".

Yikes!!! :/ I was at risk for about 3 months until I moved.

[Indiana_Jones]

Yeah it does seam a good method for thugs to get to know the handy address's that have firearms.. nice.:Police:

At the current rate, the cops will take the guns off me before the crims.....

-Indy

[CookMySock]

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&postid=6291650

Steve

[KREWZR]

Yeah it does seam a good method for thugs to get to know the handy address's that have firearms.. nice.:Police:

The form on the temporary website is a direct email to my secure email address. If you think its not genuine I invite you to have a look at the website setup here:

http://www.frommycolddeadhand.blogspot.com/

and i draw your attention to the court stamped documents on the RHS sidebar. I am the same person who has setup the NSA.

If then, you are still not convinced, wait a couple of days for the proper NSA website to be up & running here: http://www.nsanz.org.nz/

In the meantime can I ask that you refrain from dissing the efforts of a hardworking and responsible group of people who are sacrificing their time and efforts to ensure the continued freedom to privately own firearms in New Zealand.

Thanks
R

[Leyton]

In the meantime can I ask that you refrain from dissing the efforts of a hardworking and responsible group of people who are sacrificing their time and efforts to ensure the continued freedom to privately own firearms in New Zealand.


Yeah fair enough, My apollogies good sir.

I will wait until the offical site.

Leyton

[CookMySock]

I'm not saying you are not hardworking and responsible. I'm saying you are using the same techniques that internet scammers use, probably completely inadvertently.

There are two parts to this ;

1.) People with guns in their closet should emphatically NOT type their name and address into some website who pleads with them to do so on the basis of "honesty" and "goodwill" etc.

2.) Valid and useful organisations (allegedly such as yours), should emphatically NOT use the same techniques as scammers and phishers use because it makes them look small and ineffective, and normalises all sorts of activities that are risky.

Think for a minute how easy it would be for me to do exactly what you are doing... Scary isn't it.. I could scam a huge amount of information in just hours, and this is PRECISELY the way internet scammers work.

Take a hint ok, and stop being so sensitive. Go build a proper website, and start again. It's only a few days delay, and your image is at stake.

This is the internet, not the pub, and if it was the pub, would you even do it?

Steve

[CookMySock]

Good work. Looks nice. Best of luck with your new venture, and please employ a internet security consultant before you get burned.

http://www.nsanz.org.nz/pages/join.html

Steve