Redundancy

[ready4whatever]

well iv been told its either get redundant or come in part time when im needed. im in land surveying and work has been quiet since november last year. not an easy choice as i live 30km out of town and working a couple hours it wouldnt be worth the gas. im also half qualified in the electrical industry but thats bloody quiet too. damn recession!

[dogsnbikes]

Not a good position to be in....maybe if its a option easier if your single tho you could relocate or even work in another centre during the week..how flexible are you

my missus works in the electrical industry and they have even taken on a few extra staff over the last couple of months too keep up with the work load

[ready4whatever]

Not a good position to be in....maybe if its a option easier if your single tho you could relocate or even work in another centre during the week..how flexible are you

my missus works in the electrical industry and they have even taken on a few extra staff over the last couple of months too keep up with the work load

got a mrs who just got a hairdressing apprenticeship here so im pretty much bolted to the ground. oh true? must be a good company

[NighthawkNZ]

well iv been told its either get redundant or come in part time when im needed. im in land surveying and work has been quiet since november last year. not an easy choice as i live 30km out of town and working a couple hours it wouldnt be worth the gas. im also half qualified in the electrical industry but thats bloody quiet too. damn recession!


My last 3 jobs I have been made redundant... horrible feeling... but am sure you will find something

[ready4whatever]

My last 3 jobs I have been made redundant... horrible feeling... but am sure you will find something

sorry to hear that. yeah... gota put that new bike on hold

[junkmanjoe]

i too are redundant.
its a hard game to land a job now days.

im in masterton and have been applying for jobs as far north as whangarei

last job i got a reply from in Hamilton, i was one of 250 applicants.
was short listed but missed out.
in last 3 months i have applied for over 35 jobs,,, nothing positive yet.

im prepared to move away from family to secure a new job, just got to land one first.

good luck mate.

JMJ

[ready4whatever]

i too are redundant.

last job i got a reply from in Hamilton, i was one of 250 applicants.
was short listed but missed out.
in last 3 months i have applied for over 35 jobs,,, nothing positive yet.

JMJ

i got this job 20 months ago after being redundant from being an electrical apprentice. when i applied for this one i got short listed for an interview and got it. dont know how as im not the most confident person and suck at interviews under pressure, dont like my chances landing a job now. might have to go back to possum trapping

[junkmanjoe]

i thought the same , as i did possoms as a young lad.
and i made good money in the old days.

need to set up with a fluffer now, so that takes away the job of skining them.

approach D.O.C my have some part time work.

i just got called from whakatane so heres hoping aye

[ready4whatever]

yeah man i had 30 kilos of fur at one point, didnt need to work for a while. and id love working for doc going on goat culls etc. good luck

[oldrider]

Things are really getting tough out there, best of luck to all of you and mostly it is luck that gets you through!

Us oldies are dependant upon you young folk now and we have had the best years possible and have left you a bloody mess!

It makes me feel ashamed of how our generation have left things for you to struggle through picking up the pieces.

I know sorry doesn't cut it but it's all I have to offer! :doh:

[dogsnbikes]

possum fur is worth a $100/kg in Wanganui and its not like there is a shortage of possum's around the country

[Mully]

i did possoms as a young lad.
and i made good money in the old days.

need to set up with a fluffer now, so that takes away the job of skining them.


What's a fluffer?? I hope they differ in Possum trapping to what they do in, umm, adult films....

[junkmanjoe]

What's a fluffer?? I hope they differ in Possum trapping to what they do in, umm, adult films....

yea what ever

[ready4whatever]

I have two options, 1- i leave and get 4 weeks pay, and look 4 a new job, or 2- get paid my 3 weeks holiday pay, keep my job as part time, be part time until we hire another surveyor (possibly well over a year away), and il be coming in every now and then when work comes in.
Opinions please

[Mully]

I have two options, 1- i leave and get 4 weeks pay, and look 4 a new job, or 2- get paid my 3 weeks holiday pay, keep my job as part time, be part time until we hire another surveyor (possibly well over a year away), and il be coming in every now and then when work comes in.
Opinions please

If there is a loss to you in coming to work to do part-time, is there any point? Can you make your part-time say 2 days a week (so you can look for something else for the other 3)?

From what you say, it seems you'd be casual rather than part-time.

When do you have to have made a decision? Can you get to a WINZ office before you have to quit?

[jim.cox]

As an ex-surveyor myself, I think in the long term your best bet would be to:

finish your electrical apprenticeship,
get registered and
set up your own business

Hanging around, waiting to be called in for a bit of surveying is a dead-end.

Like others said, if you have to stick with them for the income try to fixed days - then at least you can plan other things around that.

YMMV

[mapsanji]

Same here, lost my job last month but Lucky found another job but had to move to Hamilton, stayed in Tauranga for bout 3 1/2 yrs, was also thinking of doing an apprentice but with my age I don't think its that simple, now I just got to get use to Hamilton and this shit weather.......
:argh:

[cambridgedan]

i was engineering and was made redundant earlier this year :( but i have found some exciting things to move on with, and some new doors have happened so I am happy now ;)

[Mom]

I have two options, 1- i leave and get 4 weeks pay, and look 4 a new job, or 2- get paid my 3 weeks holiday pay, keep my job as part time, be part time until we hire another surveyor (possibly well over a year away), and il be coming in every now and then when work comes in.
Opinions please

You want to shoot and defluff possums?

Boy do I have a deal for you. Take this offer of part time work, and go kill and defluff some possums :yes:

Beats hell out of sitting home with no income eh?

[Pedrostt500]

Is it worth starting a thread and making it a sticky, for all KBers that are looking for work, so list your qualifications, skills, types of work you would like to do, and what area you can work.
there will be some one who is looking for an employee, they may like a KBer to employ, they may only have casual work or may be full time, who knows.

I know of a position going for a plasma cutting operator, must have auto cad exsperience, and be fit as there is alot of heavy lifting, full drivers licence a bonus, and some exsperience in engineering. would suit someone who is Wellington based. dont send me any C.Vs I'm not the one doing the employing. though PM me if you are genuinely interested.

[Jonno.]

Depending on how much your missus earns take redundancy and go on the dole. Find new job.

[RantyDave]

I have two options, 1- i leave and get 4 weeks pay, and look 4 a new job, or 2- get paid my 3 weeks holiday pay, keep my job as part time, be part time until we hire another surveyor (possibly well over a year away), and il be coming in every now and then when work comes in.
So in option 1 you'd get, in effect, seven weeks pay. Take your three weeks holiday, leave the company at the end of that for four weeks pay ... seven weeks pay. Cough up, bitches.

Then look, manically, for another job. And cut costs quickly. I've done being unemployed a couple of times and the sooner you accept the reality of your situation, the better it goes.

Get in the habit of not using txt speak or numbers 4 words in typed conversation :)

Dave

[Street Gerbil]

Dude, I feel for you. Redundancy sucks. I've been made redundant 11 months ago, right when all this depression shit was starting. I've spent probably the most nightmarish 2 months in my life searching for a new job. That time I was lucky. Found a new one, paying less, but much more interesting and intellectually and emotionally rewarding. Hell, I actually enjoy it to the point where having to get up and go to work does not suck. But being kicked out from the previous job after 10 years just proves that one should never get complacent and has to keep himself alert and spend as much time on studying your trade (and/or alternative trades) as you can.
Good luck sorting out your work issues.
Re: Plasma job: these days autocad is very intuitive (unlike version 10.0 which kept me fed throughout my school years in early 90s). A person with reasonable engineering experience and a good textbook can master it in a very reasonable time.

[ready4whatever]

cheers man. i do have cad skills. its a program called 12d, very cool plan drawing program.

but yeah today will be my last day. wouldnt mind doing a mechanics/fabrication job, auto electrical, motorcycle mechanic!

[ready4whatever]

finish your electrical apprenticeship,
get registered and
set up your own business

YMMV

Im not sure i want to as I suffered a 230 volt zap from a switchboard which put me in hospital. scary shit. as my hand was around the cable, the shock caused my hand to wrap around and i couldnt get off it just paralizes you, you cant shout for help or anything, somehow managed to kick the ladder out and i dropped down, with a charcoal looking hand. the point is dont fuck with electricity. not when im expected to crawl over live cables because you get dodgy jobs at times.

[Edbear]

cheers man. i do have cad skills. its a program called 12d, very cool plan drawing program.

but yeah today will be my last day. wouldnt mind doing a mechanics/fabrication job, auto electrical, motorcycle mechanic!

All the best! I was laid off a job I liked back in May and had a discouraging couple of months, "We've had 348 replies and 6 were exactly what we were looking for!", "We've had over 500 applicants for this position..." and so on...

After some deep thought and agreement from my wife, I began working for my daughter and son-in-law on the cheap to help them build their businesses and while it's been a struggle financially as they couldn't pay me a wage, I have to take commission on sales, I am thoroughly enjoying working with them as manager and am confident in the increase in business since I came aboard. I expect to make a steady, if modest wage at first, but the potential in both the businesses I'm managing is huge.

I now don't regret my lay-off even though it hurt a the time, as I have a great opportunity now.

Think laterally and look for opportunities. Get the word out about what you can and are willing to do. KB's a good place as members here are from all types of industry and may have some good leads for you.

[Spyke]

does anyone have any advice for young people that are finishing highschool and coming out into the real world regarding what we should be doing to get those jobs we need and want?

[Spyke]

What kind of industries are the best to get into at the moment?

I suppose that depends on what you like doing, but what for prosperity in these economic times?

[ready4whatever]

A few have suggested that I place some details.

I'm 20 years old, good natured, honest and reliable.

Have the ability to follow instructions.

Good with my hands, enjoy fixing things.
NCEA L2. Electrical engineering L2.
1F and 6R licences.

Have electrical, survey, possum trapping, hay bailing, and basic mechanical experience

[Edbear]

What kind of industries are the best to get into at the moment?

I suppose that depends on what you like doing, but what for prosperity in these economic times?

You got my sympathies, mate, it's not easy out there. Look for an essential industry like plumbing, quantity surveying, hair-dressing, (don't laugh, it's recession-proof and can be quite lucrative!), the food industry.

Call centres are always looking for staff; can be a pressure-cooker, but if you've got the gift of the gab and are a bit cheeky, could be something.

Try to get an apprenticeship if you can, a bit more secure and while you're young a valuable asset to work towards.

IT is very demanding, but SEO/SEM experts are in demand so see if you can get into a bigger IT company to learn if you have any special skills in that area.

Just a couple of ideas to get you thinking.

[ready4whatever]

does anyone have any advice for young people that are finishing highschool and coming out into the real world regarding what we should be doing to get those jobs we need and want?

What I did is offer free labour (get your foot in the door for sure) ,and show them how good you are. If they dont take you on you have something to put in your CV that will impress future possible employers

[RantyDave]

i do have cad skills. its a program called 12d, very cool plan drawing program.
Probably won't fly. People looking for "cad operators" usually mean autocad and little else. Occasionally solidworks too.

Dave

[RantyDave]

Im not sure i want to as I suffered a 230 volt zap from a switchboard which put me in hospital.
This is why you get trained, first.

[RantyDave]

IT is very demanding, but SEO/SEM experts are in demand
In the long term all SEO's are going to be out of a job. Both Google and Microsoft employ many hundreds of people working on just that. Other than that I agree - get into a larger company and learn as much as you can. Make contacts, be a good guy, go the extra mile. If you can get a trade it will always be a great fallback although I suspect apprenticeships are hard to come by right now.

Dave

[Edbear]

In the long term all SEO's are going to be out of a job. Both Google and Microsoft employ many hundreds of people working on just that. Other than that I agree - get into a larger company and learn as much as you can. Make contacts, be a good guy, go the extra mile. If you can get a trade it will always be a great fallback although I suspect apprenticeships are hard to come by right now.

Dave


It is a developing part of the industry and perhaps long term as you say, it will become less in demand. But there is a huge amount of work needed right now and our business is growing rapidly due to our success in this for smaller to medium businesses wanting their websites to be more than a business card, hard to find if not specifically searching for that business.

The internet is becoming the normal way to do business and one needs to be able to be found on search engines these days.

Your advice here is worth taking note of.

[ready4whatever]

This is why you get trained, first.

ultimately it wasnt my fault the qualified guy i was working with made the power live

[Edbear]

ultimately it wasnt my fault the qualified guy i was working with made the power live


Doncha just hate that...? :argh:

[ready4whatever]

Well im at home now. jobless. Im getting paid for another 6 weeks without having to work. and if a job does come up i will go in and do it if i want to, up til that 6 weeks.

the hunt begins

[BAD DAD]

Good luck with all this. "Jobs" are going to be scarse for some time yet but you might find that being free of that comittment might enable you to take advantage of other opportunities at short notice. You'll end up living at the end of your wits occasionally then something comes along and you're Johnnyonthespot and you think "f@%^ this is cool". Once again good luck.

[RantyDave]

if a job does come up i will go in and do it if i want to, up til that 6 weeks.
And they're going to pay you for it, right?

CV done by the end of the weekend. Cancel sky, move to the cheapest mobile and internet contracts. Cook in large quantities using real ingredients and keep it in the fridge/freezer - no Maccas, no curry. Don't get busted speeding. Haircut, clean shirt, jobhunting monday. Use your networks. Don't be tempted to celebrate, you do that at the other end.

The sooner you take this seriously the less it will hurt. Good luck.

Dave

[ready4whatever]

And they're going to pay you for it, right?

CV done by the end of the weekend. Cancel sky, move to the cheapest mobile and internet contracts. Cook in large quantities using real ingredients and keep it in the fridge/freezer - no Maccas, no curry. Don't get busted speeding. Haircut, clean shirt, jobhunting monday. Use your networks. Don't be tempted to celebrate, you do that at the other end.

The sooner you take this seriously the less it will hurt. Good luck.

Dave

CV updated already. yeah i get paid extra for the days I work. i dont have to go in but i will. might buy a southern super-sock white bait net and do that in the mean time, sell whitebait for $100 a kilo. Need a haircut too. Thanks man