Maximum

[Maha]

Whatever bike you have chosen to buy/own for whatever reason is known only to you. The choices are vast to say the least. I have read a few posts today on another thread (that sparked this thread) where there maybe a little concern as to those that buy a sports bike, that they dont really need one, because they cant/dont ride it like they stole it.

Heres a question...

Who here owns a bike that, when they are road riding, gets the maximum out of what their bike has to offer?
I for one dont, and can clearly state that I never will, but I will continue in the future, to buy/upgrade a bike that best suits my needs.

[PirateJafa]

I do. Sports-commuting bro.

Extra points for wheelies, >200km/h etc in Akl traffic.

Best idea Renegade Master ever had.

Edit:


Sports-communting:

Take the distance of your commute in kilometres. (In my case, ~25km)

For every kilometre, you are allowed one minute to commute it. (So 25 minutes for me)

For every minute under the "par" for your course, you get 20 points.

For every wheelie on the way, you get 20 points.

For every stoppie, you get 30 points.

For every time you lanesplit at more than 1.5 times at local speed limit, you get 30 points.

For every powerslide you get 10 points.

For every pedestrian mown down, 20 points if they get up, or 40 points if you nailed 'em right.

40 points for running from the rozzers, and 80 points if you escape whilst still on one wheel.

100 points if someone posts up a thread on KB bitching about the biker with the numberplate 12ABC and they're referring to YOU.

Who said commuting had to be boring?

[Gremlin]

Heres a question...

Who here owns a bike that, when they are road riding, gets the maximum out of what their bike has to offer?
I for one dont, and can clearly state that I never will, but I will continue in the future, to buy/upgrade a bike that best suits my needs.
Define the maximum a bike has to offer?

If its speed/performance... hell, I came incredibly close to lowsiding my ZX10 off a nice steep drop because I pushed it too hard through a corner, and the front washed out. I would have had it reasonable close to traction limits etc, but it isn't safe is it?

What if your definition of maximum is more about what you can do?

My KTM has been to cape reinga twice, bluff once, ridden for just over 23hrs virtually non-stop and has only been out on roads for about 8 months. Beaches, Forestry roads, highways, (and even a field) its done everything.

Yep, I can say I get the maximum out of the KTM, and its freaken fantastic. But a very different view from the performance maximum of a bike...

[slofox]

Heres a question...

Who here owns a bike that, when they are road riding, gets the maximum out of what their bike has to offer?


The maximum what, Maha?

I think your question is quite wide as I see it, even though I think I know what you mean.

I could argue that I get maximum fun out of the bike every time I ride it. But I don't get maximum speed out of it every time I ride it and nor do I get maximum lean every time I ride it.

I suppose I rank the joy of riding it above all else and in that sense, yes, I do get maximum out of it every time...

[ready4whatever]

I get enough out of mine but i am new to road biking. got a little 175cc 2 stroke. no doubt il grow out of it soon

[MSTRS]

Maha...Maha...Maha...what is with all this soul-searching lately? Mid-life crisis?
Get a perm.
:sweatdrop

[Cheshire Cat]

Whatever bike you have chosen to buy/own for whatever reason is known only to you. The choices are vast to say the least. I have read a few posts today on another thread (that sparked this thread) where there maybe a little concern as to those that buy a sports bike, that they dont really need one, because they cant/dont ride it like they stole it.

Heres a question...

Who here owns a bike that, when they are road riding, gets the maximum out of what their bike has to offer?
I for one dont, and can clearly state that I never will, but I will continue in the future, to buy/upgrade a bike that best suits my needs.


I can get a Kmph for every CC. Is that maximum enough?:devil2:

[one fast tl1ooo]

what about drifting on 2 wheels, :wacko:

[boomer]

i'd get a perm

[Cheshire Cat]

what about drifting on 2 wheels, :wacko:

Show us!:yes:

[MaxCannon]

Anytime I go on a group ride the Bandit gets ridden to it's maximum potential.

Ask SharperXB who saw the sparks coming off the centre stand.

[Cheshire Cat]

i'd get a perm

and ride this?:rofl:

[F5 Dave]

As I said in the 'other' thread, how close to safety edge are you going to ride on the road? Some people are prepared to roll the dice more regularly.


My old RG50 did a genuine 105kph (117 indicated). Is that all we need?

Riding any bike to the 'max' on the road would be ill advised.

I think I've used the max potential I could ever get out of my dirtbikes, but there are others that would ride them faster or scale crazier Trials obstacles. What counts?

[R6_kid]

i'd get a perm

you need hair for that don't you... :bash:

[boomer]

you need hair for that don't you... :bash:

thats why i'd get a perm.. i'm perm envious.

[Laava]

I max out my Ninja regularly.

[Maha]

Define the maximum a bike has to offer?


Can be interpreted however you see fit, that is my point.


The maximum what, Maha?

I think your question is quite wide as I see it, even though I think I know what you mean.

I could argue that I get maximum fun out of the bike every time I ride it. But I don't get maximum speed out of it every time I ride it and nor do I get maximum lean every time I ride it.

I suppose I rank the joy of riding it above all else and in that sense, yes, I do get maximum out of it every time...

Good points slofox, I was meaning its full potential but as I said above, interpretation is the key. My question in itself is rhetorical cos I know the answer but the views of the many is what I am after.
Good post mate.

[StoneY]

I get MAXIMUM enjoyment from any ride- be it to work, or the Dairy, or just to hoon down coast road!:Oops:

I have never yet reached full speed on either bike I have, but felt the very edge of traction more than once and was fortunate enough to be able to back off a bit without wiping out (and tbh thats was more luck than skill):argh:

My best mates zx9r arrives in featherston at least 3 minutes behind me, but we never race....we do our own thing and once past Featherston he ends up waiting for me at Martinborough - so I dunno who gets 'maximum' of the two of us...the straight line drag or the enjoyment of the Hills tight bends as quick as my tyres allow- its academic really take ya choice:yawn:

But we BOTH feel like we have had full use/max fun, every ride, every weather condition, every time we go out:woohoo:

So...maximum, but maximum what? :confused:

[hospitalfood]

i rode off the road the other day, no damage to bike or claret spilt but my cock just don't seem as big any more.

[Maha]

Maha...Maha...Maha...what is with all this soul-searching lately? Mid-life crisis?
Get a perm.
:sweatdrop

Had that five or so years ago.....:whistle:


i'd get a perm

I would rather put my money towards a full body wax.....
Maximum effect!...:rockon:

[boomer]

I would rather put my money towards a full body wax.....
Maximum effect!...:rockon:

i had one of those for free.. only it wasnt wax :Oops:

get a perm !

[StoneY]

Can be interpreted however you see fit, that is my point

My question in itself is rhetorical cos I know the answer but the views of the many is what I am after.
Good post mate.

Aha, clear as mud-;)
Your seeking OUR definition of MAXIMUM use/value etc- gotcha and thanks for the opportunity to philosifyse...filosaph.... PRETEND to be smart!
:pinch:

[RC1]

dont you need hair for a perm?

[Maha]

Aha, clear as mud-;)
Your seeking OUR definition of MAXIMUM use/value etc- gotcha and thanks for the opportunity to philosifyse...filosaph.... PRETEND to be smart!
:pinch:

Yeah sort of,
I will this post as an example (and not having a go at Morcs either) of they way some view the fact that those that own sports bikes possibly shouldn't.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129352156&postcount=64

[yungatart]

Ride to the Maximum? F**k no, that would be waaaay to scary!
Silly question Maha...you've seen the way I ride!

[Maha]

Ride to the Maximum? F**k no, that would be waaaay to scary!
Silly question Maha...you've seen the way I ride!

Ahhhhhhhh yes, anyone behind you aint worth worrying about....:scooter:

[Morcs]

Yeah sort of,
I will this post as an example (and not having a go at Morcs either) of they way some view the fact that those that own sports bikes possibly shouldn't.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129352156&postcount=64

Ah but my post has no relation in regard to pushing a machine to its limit. Merely commenting on basic riding practices. Fundamental things. Im not talking about being cranked over, apexing corners, knee down, chin almost on the road wank wank stuff either. Just safe and efficient means of cornering, when to brake, when to start turns, holding the turn, when to get on the gas etc.. so that at any time, you are the least compromised you can be if a cow appears in the road or something.

I no longer ride to the maximum me or my bike can. I wont buy another sports bike in a hurry and havent had a ticket in 8 months. *touch wood*

[ManDownUnder]

Who here owns a bike that, when they are road riding, gets the maximum out of what their bike has to offer?

Not I - because I tend to buy bikes that are slightly more powerful than I will need. That extra power on tap is useful should it ever be needed, but there's no way in hell I'm going to ride the streets at the limits of a v-twin thou.

So I guess the answer is I buy them because I don't need all the power, but have it there just in case

[boomer]

Ah but my post has no relation in regard to pushing a machine to its limit. Merely commenting on basic riding practices. Fundamental things. Im not talking about being cranked over, apexing corners, knee down, chin almost on the road wank wank stuff either. Just safe and efficient means of cornering, when to brake, when to start turns, holding the turn, when to get on the gas etc.. so that at any time, you are the least compromised you can be if a cow appears in the road or something.

I no longer ride to the maximum me or my bike can. I wont buy another sports bike in a hurry and havent had a ticket in 8 months. *touch wood*

Morcs, its all relative mate. Im sure if an instructor were to follow you he'd have many a comment to make.

we're not all perfect

[2wheeldrifter]

Maximum enjoyment.... yes!

[boman]

No, I do not and doubt if I ever will. Infact my next bike will probably be smaller in capacity. It is alot of fun to ride, but some times the little head takes control and you do things that some times are beyond the realm of my skills.

:scooter::bash:

[LBD]

To The max...?

I use the handling to the max on the road at times, staying within leagal or nearly legal speeds. I have not used the tire traction beyond the max....yet.

I have used the brakes to the max when avoiding accidents....

I use the engine to the max on occasions, accelerating, overtaking, and on rare track days.

I do not use my bike's full potentional on the road all the time and no one does and no one should.

[boomer]

To The max...?


I do not use my bike's full potential on the road all the time and no one does and no one should.


i did on your bike.. and crashed it.. ! it was a good buzz tho ( other than the $$ and broken ribs )

[LBD]

i did on your bike.. and crashed it.. ! it was a good buzz tho ( other than the $$ and broken ribs )

:yawn::yawn: As if you could handle it.....Second thoughts....obviously you couldn't

[Maha]

Ah but my post has no relation in regard to pushing a machine to its limit. Merely commenting on basic riding practices. Fundamental things. Im not talking about being cranked over, apexing corners, knee down, chin almost on the road wank wank stuff either. Just safe and efficient means of cornering, when to brake, when to start turns, holding the turn, when to get on the gas etc.. so that at any time, you are the least compromised you can be if a cow appears in the road or something.


Exactly, and all this can be accomplished on either a ER6 or an R1.
If someone wants to own an R1 and rides within his/her limit then good on them, I love it when the squinty nose lookers cant handle that fact. :angry2:



To The max...?

I use the handling to the max on the road at times, staying within leagal or nearly legal speeds. I have not used the tire traction beyond the max....yet.

I have used the brakes to the max when avoiding accidents....

I use the engine to the max on occasions, accelerating, overtaking, and on rare track days.

I do not use my bike's full potentional on the road all the time and no one does and no one should.

I guess all of the above goes for a large percentage of riders :rockon:

[Maha]

i rode off the road the other day, no damage to bike or claret spilt but my cock just don't seem as big any more.

I saw the pic of it on the trailer, that is my fav' 12R, mint that both of you go away with it....:yes:

[boomer]

:yawn::yawn: As if you could handle it.....Second thoughts....obviously you couldn't


it was great through teh roads to and from kaihawa (sp?), clevedon etc.. it was coming to a halt at a set of lights it let go.. in Manakua.

lol

[StoneY]

:jerry::jerry:
Yeah sort of,
I will this post as an example (and not having a go at Morcs either) of they way some view the fact that those that own sports bikes possibly shouldn't.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129352156&postcount=64

Them 'some people' can kiss my ass

I really have no doubt that Morc would smoke my ass in a race-
I know my limits and respect them -
And I dont give a flying fuck how my ass looks while I take a corner, my bike has never yet failed to take a curve under my guidance (close calls yes, fails no)

It is sheer arrogance and vanity to say 'I can have one coz I can ride it fast... and no one else should have one unless they can ride like a pro...' thats just vain bullshit - nothing else to it, self inflamatory BS and self flagulation - and I dont care who it offends

I found myself in the gutter on the Wainui Hill the other day when a cage pushed me sideways....PHYSICALLY, the paint is still on my bar end...
Survived unscathed, thats the skill level I respect, not some self inflated boasting of how good "my" lines look taking corners or where "my" ass was on the seat.... so fuckin what if your faster...its public road.

Rant over
:jerry:

[LBD]

it was great through teh roads to and from kaihawa (sp?), clevedon etc.. it was coming to a halt at a set of lights it let go.. in Manakua.

lol

Surely you are mistaken my friend....check my location....:bash:

[Pedrostt500]

:jerry::jerry:

Them 'some people' can kiss my ass

I really have no doubt that Morc would smoke my ass in a race-
I know my limits and respect them -
And I dont give a flying fuck how my ass looks while I take a corner, my bike has never yet failed to take a curve under my guidance (close calls yes, fails no)

It is sheer arrogance and vanity to say 'I can have one coz I can ride it fast... and no one else should have one unless they can ride like a pro...' thats just vain bullshit - nothing else to it, self inflamatory BS and self flagulation - and I dont care who it offends

I found myself in the gutter on the Wainui Hill the other day when a cage pushed me sideways....PHYSICALLY, the paint is still on my bar end...
Survived unscathed, thats the skill level I respect, not some self inflated boasting of how good "my" lines look taking corners or where "my" ass was on the seat.... so fuckin what if your faster...its public road.

Rant over
:jerry:

My thoughts and sentiments exsactly.

[beyond]

I know my 14's limits and have pushed them often and yes, to the max for road holding and power. Loved every minute of it...... Nuff said. ;)

[SPP]

Modern sport bikes are extra ordinary machines.

I reckon there would be very few people who could consistently ride them at their performance edge and fewer who could do it on the road. To ride beyond the bikes limit is easy; any noob can do that!

I like to watch this video of a very capable rider on a stock CBR like mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DvEgu4ngiY

If this is what a stock bike can do then, I can put aside bike performance and concentrate on rider competence!

[Motu]

I have always preferred a lower powered bike I can push harder.My current bike is typical - the R65 is the smallest BMW mono,the exact same bike can be 800 or 1,000cc.Sure it'd be great to have the extra power (2 more hp for the 800,12 more for the 1,000,but it's really about torque) - but I can use more of the 650,the short stroke engine revs higher and free,more throttle can be applied out of corners sooner.I don't care about speed in a straight line...if the bike had a top speed of 120kph I wouldn't care,corners and getting between them is what it's about.

[dipshit]

I like to watch this video of a very capable rider on a stock CBR like mine.

If you liked that one, you should cop of a load of this one where a guy is peddling a big twin fairly hard... when about at the 7:30 mark, a CBR600 goes hauling past him. It's quite impressive to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZk3RipW6Y

[Morcs]

Morcs, its all relative mate. Im sure if an instructor were to follow you he'd have many a comment to make.

we're not all perfect

Exactly. We can all give the learn and be learned.