Owner roasts family pet in barbecue

[SMOKEU]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2756912/Owner-roasts-family-pet-in-barbecue

[scumdog]

And????:scratch:

[Mully]

Bit strange, but then that happens all over the world - people eating stuff that we find repugnent.

At least the dog didn't suffer (ironically, that's the bit that pisses the SPCA off).

[kevfromcoro]

well it was only a pittbull.

less of those things the better.

but how could you kill your own dog and BBQ it.

YUK

[NDORFN]

I've eaten dog. Wasn't bad. Good on them for eating the unruley beast. Waste not want not.

[Subike]

the dumbest statement in the whole article was

"Halliday slammed the practice. "Although we appreciate the difference of cultures that exist in a place like New Zealand, the SPCA finds this sort of treatment of any animal to be totally unacceptable," he said.

so he thinks the killing of sheep cattle and chickens are not animals?

how PC are we geting when a domestic animal that humans have kept around since time begun as an emergency food supply is suddenly unacceptable.

are we that comfortable in our little boxes on the hillside?

Sure we do need to police animal abuse, but to comdem somebody for exersizing their culture in their own homes, almost the same interferance as child smacking

[NDORFN]

Yeah, the heads of organisations like RSPCA and PETA are far too emotional. They love animals which is great, but they forget that we're animals too and eating other animals is what alot of animals do. I just used "Animals" three times in one sentance.

[98tls]

Probably easier to eat it than register it eh.

[Dave Lobster]

Probably easier to eat it than register it eh.

Paea Taufa, found roasting the pitbull terrier-cross in an umu at his Mangere home, said dog was a Tongan culinary delicacy.

Tongan people don't register dogs anyway, do they?? Wouldn't forcing them be culturally sensitive?

[Shadows]

My neighbour has a couple of dogs he's welcome to. Anybody have his number?

[98tls]

Paea Taufa, found roasting the pitbull terrier-cross in an umu at his Mangere home, said dog was a Tongan culinary delicacy.

Tongan people don't register dogs anyway, do they?? Wouldn't forcing them be culturally sensitive? Hard to say really,to me its culinary sensitive:rolleyes:Ive given up on the cultural thing,i cant keep up with all the changes,seems your not allowed to smack your kids but some can drown theres and walk away.:scratch:

[Pussy]

I, too, love animals.
They taste great

[Hitcher]

Media beat-up sensationalism.

Apart from meeting the requirements for humane slaughter, it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people, as long as it is correctly labelled, stored and packaged in accordance with the laws that apply.

[NDORFN]

Media beat-up sensationalism.

Apart from meeting the requirements for humane slaughter, it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people, as long as it is correctly labelled, stored and packaged in accordance with the laws that apply.

DAMN! No wonder I was arrested... I wasn't LABELLING my meat!

[Dave Lobster]

Media beat-up sensationalism.

Apart from meeting the requirements for humane slaughter, it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people, as long as it is correctly labelled, stored and packaged in accordance with the laws that apply.

If that isn't culturally insensitive, I don't know what is.

[Shadows]

Media beat-up sensationalism.

Apart from meeting the requirements for humane slaughter, it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people, as long as it is correctly labelled, stored and packaged in accordance with the laws that apply.

Mmmmmmmmmm. KiwiBurger.

[Headbanger]

it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people,.

I'm imagining a..................Unicorn.

[MIXONE]

First it was the asians with the cats and now the p.i.'s with dogs.At this rate I'll have no pets left.

[Creeping Death]

Human tastes like gorilla...apparently.

[duckonin]

Human tastes like gorilla...apparently.

Wonder what gorilla tastes like?

[boomer]

Law unto themselves if u ask me Au

[Creeping Death]

Wonder what gorilla tastes like?

Cock........apparently.

[duckonin]

Cock........apparently.

Buggar me never had that either..... I have all of a sudden gone off meat...:rolleyes:

[Street Gerbil]

A meat section of your neighborhood Pak'n'save is a spit in the face of half billion of hindis...

[Headbanger]

A meat section of your neighbourhood Pak'n'save is a spit in the face of half billion of hindis...

Excellent.:niceone::niceone::niceone:

Only way to improve on that is to hire someone to actually spit in their faces.

[mynameis]

LOl..:lol: SPCA are a bunch of pussies !

How much for a kilo of pitbull Hitcher? :laugh:

[Dave Lobster]

Excellent.:niceone::niceone::niceone:

Only way to improve on that is to hire someone to actually spit in their faces.

I suspect you could find a couple of muslims to do it for free.

Try Mt Roskill if you're short of them where you are.

[Headbanger]

I suspect you could find a couple of muslims to do it for free.

Try Mt Roskill if you're short of them where you are.

Import Muslims?

No!

[Creeping Death]

LOl..:lol: SPCA are a bunch of pussies !


Sub SPCA for them tree hugging dolphin strokin Greenpeace fags.

[mynameis]

" Frustrated SPCA Auckland chief executive Garth Halliday revealed it isn't illegal to kill and then eat a dog in New Zealand if the animal is slaughtered in a swift and painless manner. "

Animals don't suffer pain when they are killed "swiftly"


" Halliday slammed the practice. "Although we appreciate the difference of cultures that exist in a place like New Zealand, the SPCA finds this sort of treatment of any animal to be totally unacceptable," he said. "

"Even though the law says you can humanely kill an animal, you should not be treating any animal like this."


I don't hear them jumping up and down everyday telling the world killing cows, pigs and sheep is totally unacceptable and that we all should be vegans.

People have been eating dogs and cats for thousands of years, get over it.

[Mom]

What a crock! How friggen embarassing for that family to be dragged through the media because of some over zealous friggen SPCA inspector. So, it was a dog he was cooking, it was dead when he was cooking it.

They investigated and found nothing amiss, but they took the dog away. That was friggen food for his family!

Personally I would not kill a dog and eat it, but this is a cultural thing for them, and if I read it properly, where they come from it is something that very poor people resort to doing. Well Duh! They are obviously very poor people here.

I reckon they did well really, got rid of an annoying and not well behaved dog that was given to them, resulting in one less mouth to feed, and had some nosey parker left them to it they would have had a nice feed to boot.

[-easy--rider-]

i work on a greyhound farm. we shoot about 8 dogs a month, they just go in the hole. all that wasted meat!

[eliot-ness]

i work on a greyhound farm...

Fuck!!!! It must be a hell of a job at mustering time.

[98tls]

Just caught the News,it was killed because it had fleas.Just when you thought you had heard everything eh.

[Laava]

i work on a greyhound farm. we shoot about 8 dogs a month, they just go in the hole. all that wasted meat!
So what do you farm them for?
They would be all gristle and cock tho, not good on the table, say like a Lab or lazy Rotty.
Reckon poodles would taste like bile!

[Hitcher]

Just caught the News,it was killed because it had fleas.

Perhaps its owner played ukelele?

[Dave Lobster]

i work on a greyhound farm. we shoot about 8 dogs a month, they just go in the hole. all that wasted meat!

Why don't you rehome them, or at least have them put to sleep by a vet?

[boman]

I grew up in Mangere Bridge. The Tongan family across the road have done this for years. No one seemed to give a shit then. Guess they didn't have to sell as many newspapers then ae.

[98tls]

Perhaps its owner played ukelele? Dunno but now i am a little worried as my dog can,possibly its me on the spit-roast next.:Playnice:

[Hitcher]

or at least have them put to sleep by a vet?

"Put to sleep"? What nonsense is that. If it were true then they could be awakened. Vets kill animals. Humanely, using chemicals. "Sleep" doesn't enter into this procedure at all.

[skidMark]

"One of the main ingredients we have to prove is pain and suffering. "

BWAHAHAHHAHA punnnn

[SMOKEU]

It's always black people and asians that do shit like this.

[98tls]

It's always black people and asians that do shit like this. Bullshit,just getting to pluck the cat as we speak.

[boomer]

mean feed aoo (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/tags.php?tag=mean+feed+aoo)

[JimO]

Just caught the News,it was killed because it had fleas.Just when you thought you had heard everything eh.

probably caught them from the eventual consumers

[scumdog]

Why don't you rehome them, or at least have them put to sleep by a vet?

Cos I would guess shooting is quicker and cheaper??

[JimO]

Bullshit,just getting to fuck the cat as we speak.

bahahahahahah

[Indiana_Jones]

Nom Nom Nom


<img src="http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Cats7/Burger.jpg">

-Indy

[98tls]

bahahahahahah LOL,should still be fresh.

[Gareth51]

............................

[Skyryder]

If that isn't culturally insensitive, I don't know what is.

Yea funny how our culture gets slagged for culture insensitivity for by and sundry but when others insult our culture by eating the family pet it's ok.

Skyryder

[PrincessBandit]

Yeah, the heads of organisations like RSPCA and PETA are far too emotional. They love animals which is great, but they forget that we're animals too and eating other animals is what alot of animals do. I just used "Animals" three times in one sentance.

Aaargh, ya aminal you!!


Paea Taufa, found roasting the pitbull terrier-cross in an umu at his Mangere home, said dog was a Tongan culinary delicacy.


But then further in the article it said something about only the poorest of the poor people eating dog. So, do the poor and starving get to eat delicacies?


DAMN! No wonder I was arrested... I wasn't LABELLING my meat!

OMG, so many possible comebacks to that one but I'd blush if I wrote any of them...:msn-wink:

Perhaps its owner played ukelele?

Guffaw, snort, chuckle, screech, and snort. Oh yeah, and LOL!

[PrincessBandit]

Nom Nom Nom


-Indy

Watch out John, you're not safe around Indy. He might eat you.....

[Laava]

HEY! We should have a KB pot luck pets party!
I could do some mean-as mice nibbles to start! What you got?

[98tls]

Yea funny how our culture gets slagged for culture insensitivity for by and sundry but when others insult our culture by eating the family pet it's ok.

Skyryder No longer any specific culture here mate,bit like Rubiks cube(spell)if you can work it out your good to go.

[98tls]

HEY! We should have a KB pot luck pets party!
I could do some mean-as mice nibbles to start! What you got? How bout sauted Samoans or roasted rednecks.....mmmm.

[Pussy]

Watch out John, you're not safe around Indy. He might eat you.....

I won't be changing my user name to "Fido" either....

[gatch]

Did they get the dog back ?

I'd be proper pissed off if MAF or SPCA came and knicked my rolled roast because there was doubt over whether it had been killed humanely.

I'd be like "oi, gimme back my roast you cocks"

[PrincessBandit]

HEY! We should have a KB pot luck pets party!
I could do some mean-as mice nibbles to start! What you got?

I hear guinea pigs are a delicacy too. But I would never allow my ones to have been eaten - even by the dog, which might have ended up on someone's dinner table itself.

[98tls]

I'd be like "oi, gimme back my roast you cocks" Nothing like that needed in this case just a simple reversing of the baseball cap and a token gesture in English was enough to send the media into a state.

[skidMark]

I weigh myself for fun.

[Laava]

I weigh myself for fun.
Now baste yourself!:lol:

[MSTRS]

As heard on telly last night...that dickhead Dutchman says they will be pushing for a law change to make the killing/eating of pets illegal. WTF? All lambs, calves etc brought to school(s) for petday will have to be given special eartags or something so they can't go to the meatworks. And what about those couple of chooks you keep about the place for the kids. No ax/oven for them either.

[Mikkel]

but how could you kill your own dog and BBQ it.

YUK

Well, try going without food for a couple of days - it might change your point of view. And once tried, maybe you'd find you actually liked it... You never know.


Apart from meeting the requirements for humane slaughter, it's also legal in New Zealand to sell the meat from any animal you can imagine, other than people, as long as it is correctly labelled, stored and packaged in accordance with the laws that apply.

If that is indeed true I find it very weird that you can not buy Kangaroo meat in the supermarket here (especially since you can in Denmark - on the other side of the planet). And that is a big shame we can't, because it is yummy!


I don't hear them jumping up and down everyday telling the world killing cows, pigs and sheep is totally unacceptable and that we all should be vegans.

No, that's a bit further down the agenda. First point is to make mass-hysteria and righteous indignation the national pass-time...


What a crock! How friggen embarassing for that family to be dragged through the media because of some over zealous friggen SPCA inspector. So, it was a dog he was cooking, it was dead when he was cooking it.

Unlike, let's say, lobsters and crabs... No one is crying their eyes out for the poor buggers - just because some french chef or other has claimed that it's humane to kill them by boiling them.

My guess is that it's because exo-skeletons and antennae aren't cuddly looking...



So where is the SPCP? I mean, certainly all of this must be rather stressful for our adventurous chef.

[MSTRS]

So where is the SPCP? I mean, certainly all of this must be rather stressful for our adventurous chef.

Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Polynesians?

[Usarka]

Time for a singalong.

:whistle: Put another dog on the fire....

[Naki Rat]

A meat section of your neighborhood Pak'n'save is a spit in the face of half billion of hindis...

Not to mention pissing off the Hindus, Jews, Vegans,...
Get over it people. If it lives and breathes it's going to be fair game as a meal for someone.

[duckonin]

Nothing wrong with killing any pet animal for food, just try to avoid giving it a name first, then what stands in front of you is not jock or Molly it is a feed only..:msn-wink:

[Goblin]

But then further in the article it said something about only the poorest of the poor people eating dog. So, do the poor and starving get to eat delicacies?
Yet the dude didn't exactly look like he'd missed a meal in a loooong time.

[Laava]

Time for a singalong.

:whistle: Put another dog on the fire....

:whistle: Cook me up some hamsters and some geese

[allycatz]

What happens when other peoples dogs end up on the menu though?....I hope the dogs are hydatids free......barking mad the lot of them

[MSTRS]

Time for a singalong.

:whistle: Put another dog on the fire....


:whistle: Cook me up some hamsters and some geese

Then go fetch me my old dog lead...

[Hitcher]

Then stoke the fire and fry some chimpanzees...

[Mikkel]

Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Polynesians?

No, just People in general.

[mynameis]

Yea funny how our culture gets slagged for culture insensitivity for by and sundry but when others insult our culture by eating the family pet it's ok.

Skyryder

People from your "culture" eat cows I am sure you upset 1 billion odd Hindus

[MisterD]

People from your "culture" eat cows I am sure you upset 1 billion odd Hindus

To be fair, he's not slapping the sirloin on a grill in suburban Delhi, is he?

[Brian d marge]

yeee gods

just for that , I was going to Maccas for lunch today , now I am going to eat whale ,, and i am as hard as it is to do ,,,waste some ...because I can


cheap nice bit of flesh

seem a bit better than shooting dogs for the entertainment industry
Stephen

[insane1]

for fucks sake this is new zeland not a third world country like tonga,if they want to do this sort of thing tell em to fuck off back to tonga where most of them belong.

[Lias]

I am on the side of the tongans on this one.

I vote we BBQ some SPCA/PETA fuckwits next.

[mynameis]

To be fair, he's not slapping the sirloin on a grill in suburban Delhi, is he?

Point being why does it matter, I am sure eating cows/pigs/lamb would also upset people from his own culture who are vegans.

Moral of the story is get over it and lock your dogs from Togans :lol:

[MSTRS]

Point being why does it matter, I am sure eating cows/pigs/lamb would also upset people from his own culture who are vegans.

Moral of the story is get over it and lock your dogs from Togans :lol:

I reckon the moral of the story is that if it's made of meat, it'll be on someone's menu. And, within ethical treatment of the animal, what is wrong with that?

[slofox]

I can only reiterate an earlier post - best possible end for a pitbull cross...at least a person is eating the dog instead of the dog eating a person....which is more usual for pitbulls...

[mynameis]

I reckon the moral of the story is that if it's made of meat, it'll be on someone's menu. And, within ethical treatment of the animal, what is wrong with that?

You're right, nothing, what's the big fuss about then ? All because it was a Dog we start reacting and jumping up and down. It's like any other cow/pig/lamb being slaughtered and bbq'ed.

[PrincessBandit]

You're right, nothing, what's the big fuss about then ? All because it was a Dog we start reacting and jumping up and down. It's like any other cow/pig/lamb being slaughtered and bbq'ed.


Well, yes we do eat lambs, pigs, calves etc. but most people would probably draw a distinction between what is a much-loved family pet and an animal that was always destined for the kitchen. If the dog in question was indeed a "pet" in the usual sense of the word (for most of us that means an animal we keep for company, pleasure, that we love and look after, and is not generally associated with "yum, you're for dinner tonight") then that is the grossest part of it.

Even farm animals can be dearly loved family pets, separated off from the general "menu fodder".

When in Rome, I say. If we lived in Tonga and witnessed these things (as long as it wasn't my family pet dog that was stolen for someone elses umu) then I'd just have to accept it as part of the culture - if it actually is. This is New Zealand, and we don't eat our dogs. Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.

[mynameis]

Well, yes we do eat lambs, pigs, calves etc. but most people would probably draw a distinction between what is a much-loved family pet and an animal that was always destined for the kitchen. If the dog in question was indeed a "pet" in the usual sense of the word (for most of us that means an animal we keep for company, pleasure, that we love and look after, and is not generally associated with "yum, you're for dinner tonight") then that is the grossest part of it.

Even farm animals can be dearly loved family pets, separated off from the general "menu fodder".

When in Rome, I say. If we lived in Tonga and witnessed these things (as long as it wasn't my family pet dog that was stolen for someone elses umu) then I'd just have to accept it as part of the culture - if it actually is. This is New Zealand, and we don't eat our dogs. Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.

Yeah it wasn't a pet according to the family it was a nuisance dog which at times tried to bite people, good on them for eating it before the dog ate some kiwi neighbours 2 year old. Umu time.

[mynameis]

Well, yes we do eat lambs, pigs, calves etc. but most people would probably draw a distinction between what is a much-loved family pet and an animal that was always destined for the kitchen. If the dog in question was indeed a "pet" in the usual sense of the word (for most of us that means an animal we keep for company, pleasure, that we love and look after, and is not generally associated with "yum, you're for dinner tonight") then that is the grossest part of it.

Even farm animals can be dearly loved family pets, separated off from the general "menu fodder".

When in Rome, I say. If we lived in Tonga and witnessed these things (as long as it wasn't my family pet dog that was stolen for someone elses umu) then I'd just have to accept it as part of the culture - if it actually is. This is New Zealand, and we don't eat our dogs. Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.

You'll mostly see hypocrits getting upset, who are we to decide some animals are destined for the kitchen while others are to be loved? It doesn't make the killing of one animal ok/acceptable over the other.

Murder is murder, meat is meat, food is food, culture is culture. If the gubmint allows Tongans to be in NZ, surely we have to embrace some of their culture, like it or not. Like the Tongans are here to stay I think dog meat in umus will be too. Lock your dogs up.

[MSTRS]

Well, yes we do eat lambs, pigs, calves etc. but most people would probably draw a distinction between what is a much-loved family pet and an animal that was always destined for the kitchen. If the dog in question was indeed a "pet" in the usual sense of the word (for most of us that means an animal we keep for company, pleasure, that we love and look after, and is not generally associated with "yum, you're for dinner tonight") then that is the grossest part of it.

Even farm animals can be dearly loved family pets, separated off from the general "menu fodder".

When in Rome, I say. If we lived in Tonga and witnessed these things (as long as it wasn't my family pet dog that was stolen for someone elses umu) then I'd just have to accept it as part of the culture - if it actually is. This is New Zealand, and we don't eat our dogs. Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.
Don't get me wrong...I couldn't eat a family pet. I'm just saying that no matter what sort of animal it is, someone will be happy to eat it. That doesn't make it wrong, no matter what you think, only against 'our' (or your) sensibilities.

[Hitcher]

No crime has been committed here. Perhaps the people who should "piss off to Tonga" are those who think there has.

[yungatart]

Don't get me wrong...I couldn't eat a family pet. I'm just saying that no matter what sort of animal it is, someone will be happy to eat it. That doesn't make it wrong, no matter what you think, only against 'our' (or your) sensibilities.

True?? You forget, old man:laugh:
We had a couple of turkeys we raised from tiny little chicks....they lived in the drawer under our waterbed while they were little then joined our bantams in the chook house...all was sweet until one of them decided to peck #5 child on the lip, splitting it quite badly if I recall.
I clearly remember taking the kids out while you wrung the neck of the offending turkey (and its sibling)...blardy hell, we had a lovely Xmas dinner that year!!!

Personally, I don't see the issue. Some PC plonker has got his knickers in a knot over a storm in a tea cup!

[mynameis]

True?? You forget, old man:laugh:
We had a couple of turkeys we raised from tiny little chicks....they lived in the drawer under our waterbed while they were little then joined our bantams in the chook house...all was sweet until one of them decided to peck #5 child on the lip, splitting it quite badly if I recall.
I clearly remember taking the kids out while you wrung the neck of the offending turkey (and its sibling)...blardy hell, we had a lovely Xmas dinner that year!!!

Personally, I don't see the issue. Some PC plonker has got his knickers in a knot over a storm in a tea cup!

Old man got pwnd :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[yungatart]

Old man got pwnd :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

To be fair, they did languish in the freezer for a while before getting in to the oven.

[mynameis]

To be fair, they did languish in the freezer for a while before getting in to the oven.

Did the "old man" open the freezer and call their names here turkey :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[yungatart]

Did the "old man" open the freezer and call their names here turkey :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Silly...that is wiimins work!

[MSTRS]

To be fair, they did languish in the freezer for a while before getting in to the oven.

That they did. Just long enough that the memory of them strutting about the place, and their wanton slaughter, had faded.
I certainly couldn't have eaten them straight away.
But someone else's turkeys...now that would be different.

[SixPackBack]

Connecting logic with the consumption of meat is an erroneous debate. The same folk who claim dog meat is fine will scream blue murder at the Japanese eating whales.
The fact is we do not eat Dog meat in NZ, to claim so is incorrect and could possibly create the wrong impression for Tongans or Koreans [or anyone other culture that decides to fry Fido]. Serve Dog up at a bar-b-cue and watch the guests scarper!

[Shadows]

Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.

What's so unacceptable about slaughtering a pig in your own back yard?

What is unacceptable is neighbours thinking they have a right to tell you what you can and can't do in your own back yard when it is neither any of their business nor of any consequence to them.

You would have got one hell of an earful from me. And probably also a fair few pig entrails on your back lawn.

[wickle]

A few years ago step-daughter would not speak to me after she relised why I was calling the three piglets that we were feding, they names were Ham, Bacon and little Porkie. As for slaughting in a backyard whats the differene between a 1/4 acre backyard and a life style block (just the size)

[EJK]

A big LOL at the tags of this thread.

[Kickaha]

Serve Dog up at a bar-b-cue and watch the guests scarper!


If you didn't tell them what it was they'd probably eat it and not know any difference

[SixPackBack]

If you didn't tell them what it was they'd probably eat it and not know any difference

"Once were warriors" full of lion red might not know or care. My guests would want to know what the 'interesting' cut and taste was.

[JimO]

why do kiwis living over seas have to live by their host countrys cultures but overseas people living here bring their own babybeatingdogeating ways with them and thats ok

[PrincessBandit]

You'll mostly see hypocrits getting upset, who are we to decide some animals are destined for the kitchen while others are to be loved? It doesn't make the killing of one animal ok/acceptable over the other.


Because, believe it or not, some people do actually draw a distinction between "pets" and animals destined for the supermarket shelves. Duh.


What's so unacceptable about slaughtering a pig in your own back yard?

What is unacceptable is neighbours thinking they have a right to tell you what you can and can't do in your own back yard when it is neither any of their business nor of any consequence to them.

You would have got one hell of an earful from me. And probably also a fair few pig entrails on your back lawn.

Trust me mate, any earful you think you'd give me you'd get back in full! My fishwife impersonations are an awesome thing to behold. Why do you think we have abattoirs ya plonker, instead of a free for all backyard (I'm talking residential here) rivers of blood and guts. Not to mention the terrified squealing of an animal as it's being slaughtered. If you were my neighbour and subjected me to that you'd get a lot more than you'd ever give me petal.


why do kiwis living over seas have to live by their host countrys cultures but overseas people living here bring their own babybeatingdogeating ways with them and thats ok

How many countries would incarcerate you and worse for insisting on "your rights to live by your own cultural standards" in their country? Yet here in NZ we are expected to bend over and take it up the exhaust pipe simply in order to let all our immigrants feel completely at home here.

[JimO]

How many countries would incarcerate you and worse for insisting on "your rights to live by your own cultural standards" in their country? Yet here in NZ we are expected to bend over and take it up the exhaust pipe simply in order to let all our immigrants feel completely at home here.

eggxzacarry

[mynameis]

why do kiwis living over seas have to live by their host countrys cultures but overseas people living here bring their own babybeatingdogeating ways with them and thats ok



Baby beating? You mean Maoris are immigrants?




Because, believe it or not, some people do actually draw a distinction between "pets" and animals destined for the supermarket shelves. Duh.




And what? That makes it ok for these other animals to be murdered and when "pets" are murdered it's not.

What next? You'll say their shit stinks and your's doesn't? :laugh:

B0o0 h0o0o get over it.

[PrincessBandit]

...
What next? You'll say their shit stinks and your's doesn't? :laugh:

.

:finger: My poos smell like luffly roses.

[SixPackBack]

Baby beating? You mean Maoris are immigrants?



And what? That makes it ok for these other animals to be murdered and when "pets" are murdered it's not.

What next? You'll say their shit stinks and your's doesn't? :laugh:

B0o0 h0o0o get over it.

Meat is murder-no question, but in order for us to live with the moral dilemma in our culture, we generally choose to consume appointed species under appointed circumstances. We all know and get that fido is treated as part of the family and provides unquestioning loyalty, companionship, and perhaps protection. The reason consuming a Dog was the leading news item last night is because moral and ethical issues aside many Kiwis would find the thought of Dog as meat totally abhorrent.
We do not eat Dog in NZ.

[mynameis]

:finger: My poos smell like luffly roses.

No that must be your dogs poo that you collect everyday, smells like roses from all the love you give it. Lock it up or it's going in the umu :lol:

Love it how people are having a cry over this.

[JimO]

Baby beating? You mean Maoris are immigrants?



:

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they came here in a canoe didnt they

[wickle]

If you didn't tell them what it was they'd probably eat it and not know any difference
few spices nobody would know what they are eating,, sign of a good cook

[PrincessBandit]

No that must be your dogs poo that you collect everyday, smells like roses from all the love you give it...

Noooooo, my dogs shit smells like shit. Mine smells like luffly roses. Your turn.

[oldguy]

BBQ my place, just scored me some Labrador stakes, and German Shepherd sausages.

some call them pets, some call them food. so long as they are killed in a humane way. who cares.

I love to eat pussie

[mynameis]

Meat is murder-no question, but in order for us to live with the moral dilemma in our culture, we generally choose to consume appointed species under appointed circumstances. We all know and get that fido is treated as part of the family and provides unquestioning loyalty, companionship, and perhaps protection. The reason consuming a Dog was the leading news item last night is because moral and ethical issues aside many Kiwis would find the thought of Dog as meat totally abhorrent.
We do not eat Dog in NZ.


Not unless you're a Tongan, Korean, Chinese ect ... in NZ. Bottom line is they didn't do anything "wrong". Kiwis will have their own opinion of it but opinions are like asses, they come in every shape, form and size and everyones got one. Who cares get over it, thousands of animals weather pet or not get slaughtered everyday for food. Usual media beat up and softies feeling the need to express themselves.

[mynameis]

Wonder how many people will get upset if pommy gits in NZ ate rabbits. Cute little cuddly wabbits we love them as pets too, not in stew nooo :love:

[wickle]

Wonder how many people will get upset if pommy gits in NZ ate rabbits. Cute little cuddly wabbits we love them as pets too, not in stew nooo :love:
tell a Aussie greenee that you love possumn stew!

[mynameis]

tell a Aussie greenee that you love possumn stew!

No are they pets over there :lol:

[PrincessBandit]

Wonder how many people will get upset if pommy gits in NZ ate rabbits. Cute little cuddly wabbits we love them as pets too, not in stew nooo :love:


tell a Aussie greenee that you love possumn stew!


No are they pets over there :lol:

I would eat possum, have eaten kangaroo (Woolworths used to sell kangaroo steaks) and would eat hare or rabbit. I wouldn't ever have considered eating either of my pet bunnies; nor would I go over to Australia and insist on eating kangaroo if it was considered a national "no-no" to do so.

It's all a bit like saying "there's nothing wrong with shagging so I'll go a round with your husband/boyfriend/wife/whatever". Absolutely nothing wrong with shagging, but there are major differences between what is considered fair game/acceptable and what is a clear line in the sand that is generally agreed upon to be no-go.

Let's face it, how many people would really make kitty burgers like in Indy's post a few pages back???

[testastretta]

Hmmm...maybe its time to start up a dog farm.One like they use for pigs.Specialising in Beagles,Labradors and German Shepherds.The ones that dont make the grade for Customs,the blind or the Police could be used to feed the poor hungry fat Tongans.
Wow,man's BEST friend really has many uses.

[scumdog]

Hmmm...maybe its time to start up a dog farm.One like they use for pigs.Specialising in Beagles,Labradors and German Shepherds.The ones that dont make the grade for Customs,the blind or the Police could be used to feed the poor hungry fat Tongans.
Wow,man's BEST friend really has many uses.

Hot-dog!
Now THERE'S an idea!:devil2:

[Laava]

We have "The Aussie Butcher " up here, sells Kangaroo meat[tough and bland] crocodile meat[expensive but nice] and ostrich etc but Kiwis are beef pork and lamb eaters. No matter how much possum and rabbit was available, in general, we would not eat it. I have had feezers full of venison and had no end of people turn their noses up at it. " How can you eat deer!" boo fucken hoo! Watch me! So eat what you want, just don't expect a lot of people to approve.

[SixPackBack]

Not unless you're a Tongan, Korean, Chinese ect ... in NZ. Bottom line is they didn't do anything "wrong". Kiwis will have their own opinion of it but opinions are like asses, they come in every shape, form and size and everyones got one. Who cares get over it, thousands of animals weather pet or not get slaughtered everyday for food. Usual media beat up and softies feeling the need to express themselves.

Dude rationalise it anyway you like, the general public does not find the act of eating a pet Dog normal in any fashion.
Tongans, Koreans and Chinese will quickly realise that eating pet Dogs is seriously uncool and likely to estrange themselves from the general populace.
Having a laugh about Dog consumption is normal KB behaviour, but as you well know in NZ at this present time eating any bodies pet [even your own] will result in certain sectors of the community getting very fucking pissy.

[mynameis]

Meat is murder-no question, but in order for us to live with the moral dilemma in our culture, we generally choose to consume appointed species under appointed circumstances. We all know and get that fido is treated as part of the family and provides unquestioning loyalty, companionship, and perhaps protection. The reason consuming a Dog was the leading news item last night is because moral and ethical issues aside many Kiwis would find the thought of Dog as meat totally abhorrent.
We do not eat Dog in NZ.


That explanation is as flawed as it gets, narrow minded and biased; people making a lame pathetic attempt to explain murder to fit their own needs and "moral dilemma".

Who exactly are we to choose to make it acceptable to murder cows, pigs and sheep and say it's appointed species under appointed circumstances (to feed our fat stomach) and get all upset when someone slays a dog because mostly they are pets but in this case it wasn't the family's pet.

One could argue a cow provides lot more to us than a dog, milk and the several other dairy products like cheese, yogurt, ect..ect..and if anything cows shouldn't be murdered based on what you're saying.


Dude rationalise it anyway you like, the general public does not find the act of eating a pet Dog normal in any fashion.
Tongans, Koreans and Chinese will quickly realise that eating pet Dogs is seriously uncool and likely to estrange themselves from the general populace.
Having a laugh about Dog consumption is normal KB behaviour, but as you well know in NZ at this present time eating any bodies pet [even your own] will result in certain sectors of the community getting very fucking pissy.

Perhaps some people need to rationalise it in different ways rather than their narrow minded ways and getting so upset over it.

Like the family said it wasn't their pet dog, it was given to them by some family and it was a nuisance who tried to bite several times hence the decision to umu it before it tried to umu someone's kid.

[mynameis]

Wonder how many people will get upset if pommy gits in NZ ate rabbits. Cute little cuddly wabbits we love them as pets too, not in stew nooo :love:




I would eat possum, have eaten kangaroo (Woolworths used to sell kangaroo steaks) and would eat hare or rabbit. I wouldn't ever have considered eating either of my pet bunnies; nor would I go over to Australia and insist on eating kangaroo if it was considered a national "no-no" to do so.



So you would eat hare/rabbit just not your own pet rabbit and if dog meat was commercialised you'd eat that too just not your own dog. And if that family killed and ate a stray dog it would be ok but not someone's "nuisance pet".

So based on what you're saying if I lived in a farm with 20 cows and 50 sheep and had some form of emotional attachment with them I shouldn't be eating them. No wait I could eat steak/lamb I just gotta make sure what I have on my plate isn't from any of my 20 cows or 50 sheep.

I absolutely love some peoples logic, good on you for pleasing yourself :lol:

Hey I rekon the government should ban all fishing as well because I've got 12 pet fish in my tank and they all have names too :laugh:

No wait fish caught is ok as long as they are not from my own tank :clap:

Thanks for showing me a whole new world out there :rofl:

[boomer]

we no serve dog.. fook off !

[Max Preload]

So based on what you're saying if I lived in a farm with... 50 sheep and had some form of emotional attachment with them...

Careful what you say - there are Australians watching...

The only thing that bothers me about this whole mutt BBQ is the fact the nigger didn't invite me!

[DIN PELENDA]

Careful what you say - there are Australians watching...

The only thing that bothers me about this whole mutt BBQ is the fact the nigger didn't invite me!

It is OK mite, you know my wife is Tongan and I had to say I had some mean umu's at her uncle house, thou I was always wondering what are all of dogs doing in his beck yard he is always got about 8 of them so next time I go for meal you are welcome to come along:corn::drinknsin

[SixPackBack]

That explanation is as flawed as it gets, narrow minded and biased; people making a lame pathetic attempt to explain murder to fit their own needs and "moral dilemma".

Who exactly are we to choose to make it acceptable to murder cows, pigs and sheep and say it's appointed species under appointed circumstances (to feed our fat stomach) and get all upset when someone slays a dog because mostly they are pets but in this case it wasn't the family's pet.

One could argue a cow provides lot more to us than a dog, milk and the several other dairy products like cheese, yogurt, ect..ect..and if anything cows shouldn't be murdered based on what you're saying.



Perhaps some people need to rationalise it in different ways rather than their narrow minded ways and getting so upset over it.

Like the family said it wasn't their pet dog, it was given to them by some family and it was a nuisance who tried to bite several times hence the decision to umu it before it tried to umu someone's kid.

Youre' grandstanding bro'.............comprehension is damn poor as well!

[SixPackBack]

Pg. 5, NZ Herald


"Stanley Park, spokesman for the Korean Garden Trust, said he was shocked that it was legal to kill dogs and eat dog meat here.
The trust says it hopes that activities at the $1.5 million Korean Garden project, launched last Saturday, will help counter the belief that dog eating is an integral part of the Korean culture.
"Dog eating may be part of our history, but most Koreans today would consider eating dogs totally barbaric - and our culture actually forbids us making a meal of animals that are considered companions," said Mr Park.
South Korea has outlawed the selling of dog meat since 1984 and he said many Koreans want the practice of dog meat consumption to be banned.
"We hope that New Zealand will also make it illegal for people here to eat dogs."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10591470

[The Pastor]

whats the best way to cook dog?

[gatch]

Most of us would not under normal circumstance kill or eat a house hold pet, because simply it is a pet and you like having it around.

This animal was not a beloved family member, it was of a bastard breed and from the sounds of it, was in fact a cunt of an animal.

Personally in the circumstance I wouldn't have any qualms about killing it, I think alot of kiwi males could probably muster the cojones to end the nuisances life, only difference is they biffed it on the fire and made use of the carcass, culture aside, its a dead animal, bib on, bbq sauce out, tuck in..

[PrincessBandit]

....
So based on what you're saying if I lived in a farm with 20 cows and 50 sheep and had some form of emotional attachment with them I shouldn't be eating them. No wait I could eat steak/lamb I just gotta make sure what I have on my plate isn't from any of my 20 cows or 50 sheep.

I absolutely love some peoples logic, good on you for pleasing yourself :lol:

Hey I rekon the government should ban all fishing as well because I've got 12 pet fish in my tank and they all have names too :laugh:

No wait fish caught is ok as long as they are not from my own tank :clap:

Thanks for showing me a whole new world out there :rofl:

You're an idiot.

I am prepared to concede that there is naturally an emotive bias when talking about someone's pet. I'll say it again, people DO make a distinction between what is a family pet (and yes, before you labour the point again, it would appear that this particular dog in question wasn't a family pet - well, not their family's anyway) and animals bred for commercial purposes.

Go back to your vegan hole.

[MisterD]

When in Rome, I say.

Wolf's nipple chips! Get 'em while they're hot!

[Max Preload]

It is OK mite, you know my wife is Tongan and I had to say I had some mean umu's at her uncle house, thou I was always wondering what are all of dogs doing in his beck yard he is always got about 8 of them so next time I go for meal you are welcome to come along:corn::drinknsin

I'll bring a Labrador! :done:

Come to think of it I must have some relatives I can ask for recipes... :laugh:

[Hoon]

I was actually disgusted when I first heard this on the news (my uninformed blinkered reflex action kicking in) but after reading that Stuff article I have to admit I'm kind of pro dog-burger now. Judging by the positive responses in this thread I see I'm not the only one (I was actually expecting to be reading pages of coconut bashing in typical KB fashion!)

I'm pretty open to different types of food and even when visiting other countries I like to try 'questionable' treats. Now that our borders are open and we've become a bit of a melting pot it's only logical that some of those questionable practices (to us) will be seen here.

To the rednecks that don't like it - tough, go back to your rocking chair on the porch and mumble to your shotgun.

And to the cuddly dog brigade, stop trying to impose your beliefs on others. Go back to your blinkered fantasy world where only meat you were brought up to eat magically appears in wrapped vacuum packs on the supermarket shelf and leave the business of how and what gets there to those with the stomach for it.

[Swoop]

This pitbull cross dog. Surely it was micro-chipped in accordance with liarbour's law?

Hope nobody in the family choked on the microchip!


for fucks sake this is new zeland not a third world country like tonga,
Correct. NZ is a Banana Republic.:shifty:

No are they pets over there :lol:
They are a protected species... for some bloody weird reason!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah, the heads of organisations like RSPCA and PETA are far too emotional. They love animals which is great, but they forget that we're animals too and eating other animals is what alot of animals do. I just used "Animals" three times in one sentance.

I just played the Pink Floyd album "Animals" in honour of this thread, and that poor doggie.

[alley cat]

for fucks sake this is new zeland not a third world country like tonga,if they want to do this sort of thing tell em to fuck off back to tonga where most of them belong.

Il second that. Diversity sucks:2guns:

[Bass]

Radio Hauraki ran a call-in this morning asking for recipes. They got: -
Black Lab pudding
Crumbed Collie
German Shepherd's pie


but their favourite was...........

Ta Dah


Poodles and Noodles

[Usarka]

Radio Hauraki ran a call-in this morning asking for recipes.

How about chilli con canine.

[MSTRS]

This pitbull cross dog. Surely it was micro-chipped in accordance with liarbour's law?

Hope nobody in the family choked on the microchip!
!

No. The nice people from the SPCA made sure of that...

[slofox]

Or Grilled Sausage Dogs

[Brian d marge]

The mark of a society is how it treats the weakest members


Carry on

Stephen

[Usarka]

The mark of a society is how it treats the weakest members


Carry on

Stephen

Are you talking about the dog or the cook?

[Naki Rat]

The mark of a society is how it treats the weakest members


Carry on

Stephen

Weak members, you can get pills for that these days :rofl:

[imdying]

This is New Zealand, and we don't eat our dogs. Just like the Samoans (I think it was) who wanted to slaughter a pig in their back yard 'cos dat's how we do it back in da ilans' - piss off back to Tonga or Samoa or wherever if you want to do those things. Dont' do them here where they're not acceptable.Rubbish, they're perfectly acceptable. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that others have no problem with it.

Animals are animals, and animals are for eating.

[Marmoot]

Apparently you can slaughter deers and rabbits in your backyard despite acceptance that they can be great pets.

And in Europe they eat (GASP!!!) horse meat.
Oh, and we're one of the exporters.

Another one that makes great eat is baby pork/pig sucklings. Their meat is just awesome. Yes, that includes Babe.

[Pussy]

As I've mentioned before...

Watership Down, read the book, saw the movie, ate the pie....

[boomer]

I don't see Dog on the menu... !?

[mynameis]

Youre' grandstanding bro'.............comprehension is damn poor as well!

Doesn't take long to buckle up when you have nothing else to say and explain eh.


You're an idiot.

I am prepared to concede that there is naturally an emotive bias when talking about someone's pet. I'll say it again, people DO make a distinction between what is a family pet (and yes, before you labour the point again, it would appear that this particular dog in question wasn't a family pet - well, not their family's anyway) and animals bred for commercial purposes.

Go back to your vegan hole.

Vegan :rofl: Get over it clown, take your soft little emotive bias opinion to a group who cares. Have a little cry in a corner with your puppy and hope no one steals it for umu :lol:

[mynameis]

You're an idiot.

I am prepared to concede that there is naturally an emotive bias when talking about someone's pet. I'll say it again, people DO make a distinction between what is a family pet (and yes, before you labour the point again, it would appear that this particular dog in question wasn't a family pet - well, not their family's anyway) and animals bred for commercial purposes.

Go back to your vegan hole.


I was actually disgusted when I first heard this on the news (my uninformed blinkered reflex action kicking in) but after reading that Stuff article I have to admit I'm kind of pro dog-burger now. Judging by the positive responses in this thread I see I'm not the only one (I was actually expecting to be reading pages of coconut bashing in typical KB fashion!)

I'm pretty open to different types of food and even when visiting other countries I like to try 'questionable' treats. Now that our borders are open and we've become a bit of a melting pot it's only logical that some of those questionable practices (to us) will be seen here.

To the rednecks that don't like it - tough, go back to your rocking chair on the porch and mumble to your shotgun.

And to the cuddly dog brigade, stop trying to impose your beliefs on others. Go back to your blinkered fantasy world where only meat you were brought up to eat magically appears in wrapped vacuum packs on the supermarket shelf and leave the business of how and what gets there to those with the stomach for it.

+1 try explaining that to the fickle minded people who's heads are permenantly wedged in a 30 x 30 x 30 cm box :laugh:

I rekon they should all combine forces and open a group and protest, they are most likely the same group who poorly breed dogs for show biz.

[mynameis]

I don't see Dog on the menu... !?

Put ya glasses on you molested nun !

[Lissa]

I absolutely understand that some cultures do some things that we (kiwis) would think is pretty disgusting but in their own countries is condoned. If eating dogs is acceptable in Tonga then they should go back to Tonga and eat dog, but not in NZ. Eating cats in asian countries is acceptable but dont bring it to this country.

You would have to be pretty simple minded to think that they are only going to eat the dogs that they have bred simply for food. Dogs are thought of as pets in NZ not as a food source, they cost alot to feed and maintain, and you need to get them registered each year. I am pretty sure you cant bowl up to the council and be let off registration because your dog isnt a pet but a future roast dinner... or is that something that should be an option?

[imdying]

I am pretty sure you cant bowl up to the council and be let off registration because your dog isnt a pet but a future roast dinner... or is that something that should be an option?Definitely... just because the local government legislation doesn't currently cover it doesn't mean that we should be close minded to the idea.

If we can have terrorists immigrating and being allowed to wear their towels into service stations and banks, based purely on some fairy tails that they believe, then why not Tongans eating dogs for practical purposes?

[mynameis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8

[SMOKEU]

If we can have terrorists immigrating and being allowed to wear their towels into service stations and banks, based purely on some fairy tails that they believe

The females all have to be covered up from head to toe in certain countries because they are so ugly their husbands are too ashamed to be seen out in public with them.

[SixPackBack]

Doesn't take long to buckle up when you have nothing else to say and explain eh.

No sunshine its because all salient points have been forwarded, and your opinion counts for very little in my world.

Vegan :rofl: Get over it clown, take your soft little emotive bias opinion to a group who cares. Have a little cry in a corner with your puppy and hope no one steals it for umu :lol:

If you wish to move the conversion forward trying answering these questions:

Do you eat dog mynameis?
Would you like to?
Have you seen it for sale?

[boomer]

if you wish to move the conversion forward trying answering these questions:

do you eat dog mynameis?
would you like to?
have you seen it for sale?





i can"t see it on the fookin menu... Any where!

[Ixion]

If ya can't fuck it, ya might as well eat it, I always say.

[boomer]

If it were that foookin good.. they'd have had it at KFC by now Au...

[enigma51]

If it were that foookin good.. they'd have had it at KFC by now Au...

What makes you think they dont. its the cousins secret recipe bro

[MIXONE]

If ya can't fuck it, ya might as well eat it, I always say.

Some things you can do both with.Sheep,pussy...

[mynameis]

If you wish to move the conversion forward trying answering these questions:

Do you eat dog mynameis?
Would you like to?
Have you seen it for sale?



Your questions are completely irrelevant and it has got absolutely nothing to do with whether I eat dog or not or if it is sold or not.

People can put whatever they want in their mouth irrespective of it being commercially sold or if it affects a bunch of minority soft whingers.

It was a nuisance dog which got clubbed in the head and umu'ed.

Get over it move on, no crime was committed nothing wrong was done.


If it were that foookin good.. they'd have had it at KFC by now Au...

Coming to a KFC near you .... brow :lol:


Poodle sticks

Sausage rolls

Labrador thigs

:rofl:

[wbks]

Definitely... just because the local government legislation doesn't currently cover it doesn't mean that we should be close minded to the idea.

If we can have terrorists immigrating and being allowed to wear their towels into service stations and banks, based purely on some fairy tails that they believe, then why not Tongans eating dogs for practical purposes?Firstly, if you think the only reason they dress the way they do is because of "fairy tales" they believe, why don't you look at yourself (unless you are neked<_<)? Secondly, why do you even try to ignore the difference between dressing for a culture, which is considered acceptable here, and cooking up an animal that has an unofficial sacred status in NZ?

Defenders say "it is part of their culture", thus acceptable for them... Well, it's part of most NZ cultures (the "kiwi culture" if you can summarize it) to treat dogs specifically as pets, and its usually unacceptable to harm them let alone eat them, so isn't it acceptable for NZ cultures to say NO?

[SixPackBack]

Your questions are completely irrelevant and it has got absolutely nothing to do with whether I eat dog or not or if it is sold or not.

People can put whatever they want in their mouth irrespective of it being commercially sold or if it affects a bunch of minority soft whingers.

It was a nuisance dog which got clubbed in the head and umu'ed.

Get over it move on, no crime was committed nothing wrong was done.



Coming to a KFC near you .... brow :lol:


Poodle sticks

Sausage rolls

Labrador thigs

:rofl:


So you don't eat dog, don't want to, don't know where to buy it?
But you want to protect the right for individuals to beat their dog to death, slit its throat and cook it in their back garden?.......possibly in front of neighbours, children etc?
Is that correct?

[mynameis]

So you don't eat dog, don't want to, don't know where to buy it?
But you want to protect the right for individuals to beat their dog to death, slit its throat and cook it in their back garden?.......possibly in front of neighbours, children etc?
Is that correct?


Yor IQ is obviously flying well below the radar, what I said before.

[scumdog]

So you don't eat dog, don't want to, don't know where to buy it?
But you want to protect the right for individuals to beat their dog to death, slit its throat and cook it in their back garden?.......possibly in front of neighbours, children etc?
Is that correct?


Almost as correct as doing same to pig/sheep/hen whatever.

And yes, on front of kids- they need to know how the real world works.

[mynameis]

Almost as correct as doing same to pig/sheep/hen whatever.

And yes, on front of kids- they need to know how the real world works.

Haha :clap: no he's still wrapped in a bubble and thinks his meat comes from when Murray passes away peacefully in the farm.

[SixPackBack]

Yor IQ is obviously flying well below the radar, what I said before.

Uhhu......humour me and give it a shot. None of your previous posts address the questions below.

So you don't eat dog, don't want to, don't know where to buy it?
But you want to protect the right for individuals to beat their dog to death, slit its throat and cook it in their back garden?.......possibly in front of neighbours, children etc?
Is that correct?

[SixPackBack]

Almost as correct as doing same to pig/sheep/hen whatever.

And yes, on front of kids- they need to know how the real world works.

Children need to know about sex as well, should we set up some live shows?

[mynameis]

Children need to know about sex as well, should we set up some live shows?

That's what the internet and porn is for silly :spanking:

[mynameis]

Uhhu......humour me and give it a shot. None of your previous posts address the questions below.

So you don't eat dog, don't want to, don't know where to buy it?
But you want to protect the right for individuals to beat their dog to death, slit its throat and cook it in their back garden?.......possibly in front of neighbours, children etc?
Is that correct?

:clap: :laugh:

Just for your sake I'll say it again :




Your questions are completely irrelevant and it has got absolutely nothing to do with whether I eat dog or not or if it is sold or not.

People can put whatever they want in their mouth irrespective of it being commercially sold or if it affects a bunch of minority soft whingers.

It was a nuisance dog which got clubbed in the head and umu'ed.

Get over it move on, no crime was committed nothing wrong was done.

[SixPackBack]

That's what the internet and porn is for silly :spanking:

Cool. The kids can get their sex education there rather than over the neighbours fence.

[SixPackBack]

:clap: :laugh:

Just for your sake I'll say it again :

Avoidance?....try engagement!.

[PrincessBandit]

Doesn't take long to buckle up when you have nothing else to say and explain eh.



Vegan :rofl: Get over it clown, take your soft little emotive bias opinion to a group who cares. Have a little cry in a corner with your puppy and hope no one steals it for umu :lol:

Yawn.

You're still an idiot.

[Robert Taylor]

A few steps closer to cannibalism.....

[mynameis]

Avoidance?....try engagement!.

Avoidance and trying to steer this to a totally irrelevant conversation is what you're aiming for when you have nothing else to engage.

Got something to say spill it out.


Yawn.

You're still an idiot.

Your soft little soul has clearly been affected by the clubbing and umu of a dog, counselling could be the answer to sort out your illogical thoughts and emotions :D

[wbks]

Avoidance and trying to steer this to a totally irrelevant conversation is what you're aiming for when you have nothing else to engage.

Got something to say spill it out.



Your soft little soul has clearly been affected by the clubbing and umu of a dog, counselling could be the answer to sort out your illogical thoughts and emotions :DAt which point does immaturity stop being funny? Think about that...

[SixPackBack]

Avoidance and trying to steer this to a totally irrelevant conversation is what you're aiming for when you have nothing else to engage.

Got something to say spill it out.

I'm avoiding nothing. If you wish to discuss the subject in a civilised fashion feel free to ask me a question-I will answer, in return it would be reasonable for you to answer my questions which you have so far avoided.

Your soft little soul has clearly been affected by the clubbing and umu of a dog, counselling could be the answer to sort out your illogical thoughts and emotions :D

It may well be illogical to you to classify a dog as just 'meat' for the vast majority of NZers witnessing the 'murder' of a dog in someones back yard would send some into catonic shock. Kiwi's by and large are socially conditioned to think of dog's as pets, companions, house-gaurds and working animals. they are not, nor have they ever been classified as food.

Causal links between animal cruelty are well documented. Killing and eating a dog to many would be considered abnormal and cruel.

"Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder."

[mynameis]

I'm avoiding nothing. If you wish to discuss the subject in a civilised fashion feel free to ask me a question-I will answer, in return it would be reasonable for you to answer my questions which you have so far avoided.

It may well be illogical to you to classify a dog as just 'meat' for the vast majority of NZers witnessing the 'murder' of a dog in someones back yard would send some into catonic shock. Kiwi's by and large are socially conditioned to think of dog's as pets, companions, house-gaurds and working animals. they are not, nor have they ever been classified as food.


Causal links between animal cruelty are well documented. Killing and eating a dog to many would be considered abnormal and cruel.



0oh another brilliant shot by the hypocrit, I am not the one dishing out little red dot because I don't agree with you :D

Again pulling facts out of thin air? Who witnessed the murder of a dog in their backyard?? :yawn:

[SixPackBack]

0oh another brilliant shot by the hypocrit, I am not the one dishing out little red dot because I don't agree with you :D

Again pulling facts out of thin air? Who witnessed the murder of a dog in their backyard?? :yawn:

Safe to assume somebody did, how otherwise did both the SPCA and the press become involved. Also safe to assume that if such actions are 'normal' and sold to the public as such we will have incidences of 'pets' being slaughtered in their back yards.

Your very young aren't you mynameis?

[scumdog]

Children need to know about sex as well, should we set up some live shows?

What's this 'we' paleface??:blink:

[DIN PELENDA]

I'll bring a Labrador! :done:

Come to think of it I must have some relatives I can ask for recipes... :laugh:

Labrador my not be enough, my wife family is huge(and her ass, after having 5 kids, but I'm just lucky she do not read KB:bash:) but I know you got that chubby cat so bring that I would like to try what that taste like:jerry:
Just for record that Tongan hot dog maker is probably same man that get 1200$ : 15 years on income and is got 10 kids :laugh:.

[mynameis]

Safe to assume somebody did, how otherwise did both the SPCA and the press become involved. Also safe to assume that if such actions are 'normal' and sold to the public as such we will have incidences of 'pets' being slaughtered in their back yards.

Your very young aren't you mynameis?

Go figure out how the SPCA found out then you can come online and talk.

You must work in HR because all I smell from your posts is bullshit :lol:

[boomer]

Seriously tho.. Dog..?!


WHERE ON TEH MENU DOES IT SAY DOG !?

[Pussy]

Seriously tho.. Dog..?!


WHERE ON TEH MENU DOES IT SAY DOG !?

Go to a south east asian restaurant.... it's called "Lah See" on the menu

[mynameis]

Seriously tho.. Dog..?!


WHERE ON TEH MENU DOES IT SAY DOG !?

Time to umu you, you molested nun :rofl:

[Brian d marge]

A few steps closer to cannibalism.....
I think that's the best way to express it

Stephen

[Max Preload]

It may well be illogical to you to classify a dog as just 'meat' for the vast majority of NZers witnessing the 'murder' of a dog in someones back yard would send some into catonic shock. Kiwi's by and large are socially conditioned to think of dog's as pets, companions, house-gaurds and working animals. they are not, nor have they ever been classified as food.

Killing and eating a dog to many would be considered abnormal and cruel.

Well, not internationally and apparently not even so much locally, if the responses here are anything to go by. Have you considered the possiblity it might just largely concentrated in your perception with no basis in reality...


Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder."

Exactly what does any of that have to do with this? It's not cruelty - which would have an enjoyment aspect to it - it's killing for food and eating the kill. Just as many animals are. I'm guessing you've never personally witnessed how any of that is done.

[Max Preload]

Labrador my not be enough, my wife family is huge(and her ass, after having 5 kids, but I'm just lucky she do not read KB:bash:) but I know you got that chubby cat so bring that I would like to try what that taste like:jerry:
Just for record that Tongan hot dog maker is probably same man that get 1200$ : 15 years on income and is got 10 kids :laugh:.


I've got plans for that cat... :shifty:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Coonskin_cap.JPG/400px-Coonskin_cap.JPG

[SixPackBack]

Well, not internationally and apparently not even so much locally, if the responses here are anything to go by. Have you considered the possiblity it might just largely concentrated in your perception with no basis in reality...

.

You, a couple of shit stirrers and a the pre-pubescent mynameis do not constitute the majority.

[SixPackBack]

Go figure out how the SPCA found out then you can come online and talk.

You must work in HR because all I smell from your posts is bullshit :lol:

You're unable or incapable of having a logical conversation without becoming animated [ha a pun]........that would be my observation.

[Max Preload]

You, a couple of shit stirrers and a the pre-pubescent mynameis do not constitute the majority.

Nor does the sum total population of the western world...

[SixPackBack]

Nor does the sum total population of the western world...

Exactly this is the western world.

[ManDownUnder]

People make familial associations with pets (i.e. they see them as part of the family, or part of someone elses family) so to see one killed would be distressing, and to see it cooked, in preparation for eating would well be too much altogether.

That's what this whole story is about. People just can't get their head around the fact it's acceptable to eat dog, horse, cat, guinea pigs and many other things "we" see as pets because they're simply incapable of walking in the shoes of someone beyond our cultural norms.

It's not wrong (assuming it was done humanely, which it was in the case)... just different. It's a shame people can't see through "different", but then (quite honestly) some simple aren't evolved enough to be capable of it.

China, Korea, and I expect a number of other countries not only eat dog - they farm it.

And to cap it off it was a pit bull - aren't we trying to get rid of them anyway? Aren't they being put down left and right? At least this one was put to good use.

[PrincessBandit]

All I have ever said is that eating a pet is abhorrent. In a country where eating guinea pigs, dogs or horses is considered normal it is probably because they do farm them specifically for that purpose. Just as in New Zealand we farm cattle, sheep, pigs and yes, deer, for the same reason.
I think most NZers would find it odd, at the very least, to suddenly have cat or budgie etc. appear in the supermarket aisles. And I further suspect there would be a lot of resistance to it. That is just how people view things here.
Some would probably be quite happy, but my suspicion is they'd be in the minority. Who knows, with enough exposure that could well change over time. The fact that kangaroo meat didn't ever really take off here suggests otherwise though.

Again I say, if I went to another country where it was perfectly acceptable to have takeaway dog from the local street vendor I would have to make the choice whether to fit in with the culture and tuck in or abstain for my personal reasons. If I went to a muslim country which insisted on women wearing certain items of clothing and covering of hair, then turned around and said "but I insist on wearing jeans and going bare-headed because I'm from NZ and that's what we do there" I probably wouldn't last too long.

[PrincessBandit]

And just to clarify, the species of animal doesn't automatically make it "pet" or "food". You can have a pet lamb and separate it from the rest of the flock who are going to the butcher; I have a pond full of gold fish in our back yard, none of which have names nor do I feel "warmy fuzzy attachment" to them other than cleaning their pond and feeding them, but I wouldn't eat any of them either.

[peasea]

Exactly this is the western world.

Exactly, and eating dog is usually a last resort in the Western World.

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

[Indiana_Jones]

Exactly, and eating dog is usually a last resort in the Western World.

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

When should I book our flight?

-Indy

[ManDownUnder]

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

If it wasn't against the law I'd expect social shock, a case being dragged to court to be tested against the laws of the land and an outcome remarkably similar to the one we have here.


And just to clarify, the species of animal doesn't automatically make it "pet" or "food".

BINGO!

A great example. Raise a lamb in the back yard, have the neighbours and their kids feed it, play with it, get to know it... then after it's grown a bit kill it, roast it up and rock on up to their doorsteps with a lovely aromatic fresh roast leg of lamb.

Nose says YUM! Brain says CRY!!!!!!!!

Of course the level of emotional attachment we have for any given animal or whatever species is going to affect our reaction to it being killed, then eaten.

In NZ dogs are assumed to be pets, therefore loved. How can you kill and eat something you love?

It seems that in Tonga there are ocassions where dogs are akin to lambs in NZ.

[Katman]

I've stayed out of this argument till now because I can see it from both points of view - I have hand raised sheep that have ended up in my freezer.

What concerns me is, if the eating of dog was to become seen as acceptable it would not be long before other peoples family pets went 'missing in action' simply because there would be a market for it - even if it was only ever a blackmarket. (Whoops - no pun intended).

If Tongans feel the need to eat dog they should fuck off back to Tonga to do it.

[imdying]

Firstly, if you think the only reason they dress the way they do is because of "fairy tales" they believe, why don't you look at yourself (unless you are neked<_<)?I'm dressed the way I am because it was cold enough here that we had to scrape ice off the window this morning :cold:


Secondly, why do you even try to ignore the difference between dressing for a culture, which is considered acceptable here, and cooking up an animal that has an unofficial sacred status in NZ?Sacred? Mutts? Are you high? :laugh: That's the point... not everyone thinks that they way they dress is acceptable, and not everybody thinks that eating dogs is unacceptable. Who are you to say either way??


Defenders say "it is part of their culture", thus acceptable for them... Well, it's part of most NZ cultures (the "kiwi culture" if you can summarize it) to treat dogs specifically as pets, and its usually unacceptable to harm them let alone eat them, so isn't it acceptable for NZ cultures to say NO?New Zealand is an immigrant country, our culture is not fixed in stone, it simply has to be amorphous in nature.

If we're going to accept a diverse variety of immigrants, it's not unreasonable for us to accept that they will be bringing a diverse range of cultural behaviour with them. Good on them for adding a little colour to this little back water :yes: The only way you'll stop immigrants from bringing their customs with them is to stop them coming into the country.

[Katman]

The only way you'll stop immigrants from bringing their customs with them is to stop them coming into the country.

Now there's an idea.

:whistle:

[imdying]

Now there's an idea.

:whistle:It would have been an idea 160 years ago, would have fixed a lot of problems before they started.

[Ixion]

Since when did dogs classify as pets?

By my reckoning dogs are working animals. Like horses. We don't eat horses either. Same reason

Makes evolutionary sense, eat your working animals and you are soon going to be in the shit.

[boomer]

Now there's an idea.

:whistle:


It would have been an idea 160 years ago, would have fixed a lot of problems before they started.

And now we see all the red necks come out of the wood work!


WHO THE FOOK ARE YOU TO SAY WHO CAN AND CANT GO AND LIVE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD...!!??!!


i dont see ANY fookin indigenous species from this island... so banjo players unite should fookin tread wearily...!

[Katman]

WHO THE FOOK ARE YOU TO SAY WHO CAN AND CANT GO AND LIVE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD...!!??!!


It's all right boomer - I don't mean the Poms.

You did bring us fish and chips, after all.

[imdying]

It's all right boomer - I don't mean the Poms.

You did bring us fish and chips, after all.Not me, that's exactly who I meant. If they hadn't have been able to bring their culture, we wouldn't even have this precious 'Kiwi culture' that apparently says Tongans can't eat dogs in New Zealand if they feel like it.

[boomer]

Not me, that's exactly who I meant. If they hadn't have been able to bring their culture, we wouldn't even have this precious 'Kiwi culture' that apparently says Tongans can't eat dogs in New Zealand if they feel like it.

well in that case.. i'll get my brothers to pack up there suit cases and we'll be on the next flight out of here.

bye :wavey:

[Katman]

And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?

Should we be allowed to stone adulterers to death?

Should we embrace the idea of 12 year old girls being married?

Should we welcome the idea of binding young girls feet?

[ManDownUnder]

And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?
We stop when it breaks our laws.


Should we be allowed to stone adulterers to death? if that's the punishment in the statutes... yes


Should we embrace the idea of 12 girls being married? ...see above...

[duckonin]

Tongans and their culture are welcome in Waihi, they would do a better job of dog control (barking Bastards cook em all) than the idgits running noise control for the Council....

[Max Preload]

Exactly this is the western world.

The Western World is very small as a proportion of humanity and as such fairly insignificant. I didn't think I'd need to spell it out to you, but there you are. If it's a majority you're after to base your sensibilities you need to look to the East.

[idb]

The Maori were eating their dogs when Tasman and Cook arrived.
Soooo...wouldn't that make it a New Zealand custom?

[davereid]

The Maori were eating their dogs when Tasman and Cook arrived.
Soooo...wouldn't that make it a New Zealand custom?

Maori were eating Maori... does that help you with your dilemma ?

Nonetheless, our opinion of the matter is based on our expectations of whats OK to eat, not on the law.

As the animal was killed humanely, the SPCA would appear to have stolen the mans lunch !

[imdying]

well in that case.. i'll get my brothers to pack up there suit cases and we'll be on the next flight out of here.Why? What's wrong with having brought over footy and fish n chips??? By bringing your culture here, you've enriched our own? What the heck is wrong with that? Ok, not everyone believes those things enrich New Zealand culture, but big freakin deal... the only place you'll get mass consensus from a room full of people is in the mortuary.


And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?I don't really have the time or inclination to worry about what other people are up to, so I'm happy to leave that to the people that enforce the laws of the land.


The Maori were eating their dogs when Tasman and Cook arrived.
Soooo...wouldn't that make it a New Zealand custom?Sounds fair, if it's true.

[ManDownUnder]

Sounds fair, if it's true.

that'd be the native New Zealand dog...?

[george formby]

I've been a chef for 30 years & reckon the Chinese have got it right. " If it moves with the sun on it's back, you can eat it." What rip's my nightie is the bashing the poor dog is getting. The first hint of Pit Bull & the ignorant scream "Dangerous dog!" Any dog is a reflection of it's owner & unfortunately Bull Terriers often appeal to people who want to project a scary, tough image but who are essentially weak, it used to be Rotti's, Doberman, Mastiff's etc. I have a Bull Terrier cross, she sleeps with the cat. The cat has muscled her way into the dogs kennel & the mutt is at a loss what to do. Dangerous my a**e. How this reflects on me as her owner, time will tell. Don't be too cruel..
By the way, dog tastes like a cross between chicken & veal. It's good to be at the top of the food chain.

[idb]

that'd be the native New Zealand dog...?

No, it wasn't native.
It was brought here by the Maori themselves.

[idb]

I've been a chef for 30 years & reckon the Chinese have got it right. " If it moves with the sun on it's back, you can eat it." What rip's my nightie is the bashing the poor dog is getting. The first hint of Pit Bull & the ignorant scream "Dangerous dog!" Any dog is a reflection of it's owner & unfortunately Bull Terriers often appeal to people who want to project a scary, tough image but who are essentially weak, it used to be Rotti's, Doberman, Mastiff's etc. I have a Bull Terrier cross, she sleeps with the cat. The cat has muscled her way into the dogs kennel & the mutt is at a loss what to do. Dangerous my a**e. How this reflects on me as her owner, time will tell. Don't be too cruel..
By the way, dog tastes like a cross between chicken & veal. It's good to be at the top of the food chain.

So now, after the recent news, a Bull Terrier would project the image of being a cook.

[alley cat]

So now, after the recent news, a Bull Terrier would project the image of being a cook.

My bull terrier is the sweetest man in the world. love of my life and my most constant mate. couldnt eat him but id give an immigrant a go.
Anyone for pinenut and pooskin filo parcels?

[george formby]

So now, after the recent news, a Bull Terrier would project the image of being a cook.

or not to picky about you grub, another terrier trait. Mobile skips.

[ManDownUnder]

No, it wasn't native.
It was brought here by the Maori themselves.

You're implying Maori arenm't the native people of A O Tee uh Rower?

[idb]

You're implying Maori arenm't the native people of A O Tee uh Rower?

Woop Woop!!!
Wrong thread you fool...bail out...bail out...!!!!

[ManDownUnder]

Woop Woop!!!
Wrong thread you fool...bail out...bail out...!!!!

damnshitfuck... not

[MSTRS]

that'd be the native New Zealand dog...?
No indigenous mammals here, barring the short- and long-tailed bats.

No, it wasn't native.
It was brought here by the Maori themselves.

Yep. Known as Kuri. And used as a protein source.
There is a river in Hawkes Bay called the Tutaekuri. Tutae is a word for waste, commonly thought to mean 'shit'. It actually includes offal, too. The river was so named as a result of dogs being killed/eaten there, and the inedible waste/offal being disposed of by dumping. Really should rename it, as these days the dumping is of burnt-out stolen cars...tahuwakahonki :laugh:

Sorry - OT and OTT :crazy::killingme

[cc rider]

...the pre-pubescent mynameis...

....but MNI, you said you were old enough!? :blink:

(must lift visor next time before....) :bleh:

[wbks]

I'm dressed the way I am because it was cold enough here that we had to scrape ice off the window this morning :cold:What I was meaning was: The style of dress you are wearing right now is diluted from what was deemed acceptable by people preaching "fairy tales" not so long ago, so are you really so different (in that regard) from "ragheads" as everyone here loves to call them?

Sacred? Mutts? Are you high? :laugh: That's the point... not everyone thinks that they way they dress is acceptable, and not everybody thinks that eating dogs is unacceptable. Who are you to say either way?? Maybe not where you are, but in the mainstream, no one really gets too offended by choice of clothing (as long as there is some).

New Zealand is an immigrant country, our culture is not fixed in stone, it simply has to be amorphous in nature. Sure, but there are dominant trends in NZ culture (excluding far off minorities, but that's everywhere), and thats what makes up culture. Sure it evolves, but if it wasn't part of this countries culture to not tollerate this kind of thing, it would have never made news, and people wouldn't put this much discussion into it, would they?:shifty:

If we're going to accept a diverse variety of immigrants, it's not unreasonable for us to accept that they will be bringing a diverse range of cultural behaviour with them. Good on them for adding a little colour to this little back water :yes: The only way you'll stop immigrants from bringing their customs with them is to stop them coming into the country. I think although people talk about being accepting of others cultures in pretty much every country where there are immigrants, the basic standpoint (and fair enough IMO) is "Do what you want, but if you step over the line and offend 'us' you can fuck off to where you came from and continue it there". See what I'm saying? Well that's just what I think...

[Kickaha]

well in that case.. i'll get my brothers to pack up there suit cases and we'll be on the next flight out of here.

bye :wavey:

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out:rolleyes:

[peasea]

It seems that in Tonga there are ocassions where dogs are akin to lambs in NZ.

They have millions of woolly dogs?

[gatch]

I still can't believe this, honestly I'm fuckin boggled.

Crying because there is one less pest dog in the world..

It was killed properly and then disposed of in an efficient manner.

All the over emotive rubbish aside, there is bigger fish to fry, bunch of soft cocks.

[PrincessBandit]

I still can't believe this, honestly I'm fuckin boggled.

...
All the over emotive rubbish aside, there is bigger fish to fry, bunch of soft cocks.

Obviously enough of an issue for people to still be posting here. Otherwise it would have already been relegated to pg 7 of RnR.

[Laava]

, there is bigger fish to fry, .
Right, now we have a whole new thread topic!

[DIN PELENDA]

Since when did dogs classify as pets?

By my reckoning dogs are working animals. Like horses. We don't eat horses either. Same reason

Makes evolutionary sense, eat your working animals and you are soon going to be in the shit.

Tongans eat horses 2 :done:,But IN ANY ISSUE there are always differing points of view and often they are poles apart. How often have u read in the newspaper a view that you vehemently oppose, or see something on television that incenses you because it is the exact opposite of what you believe?
I guess this is the simple reason we have disagreements on KB:argue:in our families:love: and communities, and yes even between nations.
It is all borne from our perceptions of things as we see them and believe them to be.What we need to do to attain full wisdom is to gather the perceptions of others, listen to their views and then, being more fully informed, make our own decision and own position clear.:done::Offtopic:

[wbks]

Tongans eat horses 2 :done:,But IN ANY ISSUE there are always differing points of view and often they are poles apart. How often have u read in the newspaper a view that you vehemently oppose, or see something on television that incenses you because it is the exact opposite of what you believe?
I guess this is the simple reason we have disagreements on KB:argue:in our families:love: and communities, and yes even between nations.
It is all borne from our perceptions of things as we see them and believe them to be.What we need to do to attain full wisdom is to gather the perceptions of others, listen to their views and then, being more fully informed, make our own decision and own position clear.:done::Offtopic:Yes, Zen Master!

[chef]

darn this toppic got alot of posts for a dog ha

[mynameis]

Aaah...where this thread has gone...just in a few hours.

Anyways I am having a free for all Umu night tomorrow, you're welcome to bring anything you'd like to try, absolutely anything:

Veges
Poodles
Labradors
Pitbulls
Horse
Cat
Deer
Steak

.....

:rofl:

[mynameis]

You're unable or incapable of having a logical conversation without becoming animated [ha a pun]........that would be my observation.

It's the other way around your logical thought processes have been buckled up by your soft cock emotions over a pitbull which was smacked on the head, skinned and umu'ed.

Of course you work in HR.

[cc rider]

It's the other way around your logical thought processes have been buckled up by your soft cock emotions....
Of course you work in HR.
hehe! 'soft cock' - 'human relations'................It's just me, right??? <_<

.....man I have the munchies :stoogie: :corn:



ps - MNI, what's umu (thinks me knows, but....)

[mynameis]

hehe! 'soft cock' - 'human relations'................It's just me, right??? <_<

.....man I have the munchies :stoogie: :corn:



ps - MNI, what's umu (thinks me knows, but....)

:clap:

Roflies :rofl:

Here's what the 16 pages of fuss is about :

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2756912/Owner-roasts-family-pet-in-barbecue

[Brian d marge]

And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?

Should we be allowed to stone adulterers to death?

I hope not, I wouldnt have any chance of a root :shutup:

Should we embrace the idea of 12 year old girls being married?

I married a 12 year old .... ( actually in my travels nearly did twice !!!! ,,,long story ! )

Should we welcome the idea of binding young girls feet?

What I and Max mosely do in our private lives ! ! should not be aired in public

Stephen

[Shadows]

Maori were eating Maori... does that help you with your dilemma ?

Not at all. I wouldn't want to eat a Maori.

[SixPackBack]

It's the other way around your logical thought processes have been buckled up by your soft cock emotions over a pitbull which was smacked on the head, skinned and umu'ed.

Of course you work in HR.


hehe! 'soft cock' - 'human relations'................It's just me, right??? <_<

.....man I have the munchies :stoogie: :corn:



ps - MNI, what's umu (thinks me knows, but....)


I get it now. You both use drugs.

[PrincessBandit]

Your soft little soul has clearly been affected by the clubbing and umu of a dog, counselling could be the answer to sort out your illogical thoughts and emotions :D

Your sad little dribbles of verbal ejaculate confirm that continuing to call you an idiot is an insult to idiots.

You are hereby reduced in rank from "idiot" to that of "wanker".

Welcome to my ignore list.

[gatch]

I get it now. You both use drugs.

Can I get in on that ?