Shit bike = poor income?

[smoky]

Do you think that the (perceived) quality of the bike you ride, assessed by how much others think it’s worth, reflect your income?

For some reason a couple of people on KB, who have taken exception at what I have posted lately, and decided to leave abuse on my profile or thru red rep – have both made comments on how much they earn compared to me?
And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit

As they have no idea how much I earn, I can only assume they relate the fact that I ride an older cheaper bike to a lack of funds?
Is this a common perception?
Does your bike reflect how much you earn?

I’ve never really looked at what some one rides and thought they must be wealthy, or they must be broke?

[Sidewinder]

nah you can tick anything up these days

[CookMySock]

Just report them and don't get involved.

Steve

[nico]

my .02c flash bike = loan and no morgage

i choose lesser bike and my own roof over my head

only my .02c

[Mom]

My bike is priceless to me :yes:

It is not a shit bike at all, the blue lovely is just that, blue and lovely.

I have no idea what it says about my income, and I dont care. You come across wankers all over the place mate, I tend to ignore them for the most part.

[Mom]

my .02c flash bike = loan and no morgage

i choose lesser bike and my own roof over my head

only my .02c

In my experience mate, flash bike probably means a big HP debt or a great lease deal, it has nothing to do with income at all.

[Spyke]

my .02c flash bike = loan and no morgage

i choose lesser bike and my own roof over my head

only my .02c

so that makes .04c with my .02c

[R6_kid]

I have a 'piece of shit' bike. I'm a student. So I guess they sort of match.

[Hiflyer]

hehe I ticked both cos it would let me! :clap:

[98tls]

Personally i find much fun in sticking with late model riding mates through the good bits on my old Dinosaur.I admire new bikes/old bikes,what the owner earns a year i couldnt give a shit about.As for the Interweb,would bet that theres a heap of "real fast cunts" on here are not to bad on a keyboard but pretty slow everywhere else,probably truth be known easy to spot in the real world ie walking on all four with baseball caps the wrong way round.Once again just a personal thing but as much as i would like a new Buell the fact is i would find the laughter from 600 gixxer owners on my tail through the good bits to much to bear so i wont bother.

[nico]

In my experience mate, flash bike probably means a big HP debt or a great lease deal, it has nothing to do with income at all. exacatly wat im trying to say lol. and i couldnt giva rats wat ppl think about me bike i like it.:niceone:

[smoky]

I'm not stressing about it - Red rep and abuse doesn't worry me at all

I just found it interesting that they would have that impression? wondered if it was a common attitude?

Might be that kind of thinking that got us in that supposed credit crunch

[bogan]

hehe I ticked both cos it would let me! :clap:

same! and also sometimes it does reflect income, ive had 6 bikes while a student, none have been worth more than 3k because i dont have the money. Still enjoy riding as much as the next guy though, which is all that matters, also, i still own 3 of them :headbang:

edit: I may not even count cos student have NO income instead of Poor income :bleh:

[Argyle]

probably true and not true. Some they don't want a expensive bike and some they don't have the money to buy a expensive bike.

But if you earn well there's no reason to buy a shit bike?!

Hard to make money in NZ

[MotoGirl]

I voted "No" purely on the basis that people have many priorities and putting money into an expensive bike may take something away from those other priorities. If I had a family to support or other hobbies, I would potentially have chosen a less expensive bike but I would still own a bike.



In my experience mate, flash bike probably means a big HP debt or a great lease deal, it has nothing to do with income at all.

To an extent, yes; however, you still have to be able to service that HP, which could require a higher income. Could someone on a student allowance get an RSV4 (about $44k) on HP and afford the repayments?

[boman]

Don't think so. I own my own bike, and I own my own house. I could have bought whatever I wanted, But opted to buy what I wanted to buy.

[vifferman]

Does your bike reflect how much you earn?
Dunno.
Probably not.
Yeeeeeearrrs ago, 'they' reckoned that you should spend the equivalent of a year's income on a car, and 5 for a house.
I've never had a car that even remotely approached anywhere near that value. This isn't because I earn shitloads, it's a matter of priorities. The newest vehicle was my wife's car, which was bought at ~1 year old.

Given the choice, I'd have a MUCH newer and more betterer bike than I do. It's currently 8-ish years old, has around 85,000 km on it, and is somewhat manky looking. I/we could afford a more betterer one, but it's not going to happen, even though my bike is my main transport.

[vifferman]

But if you earn well there's no reason to buy a shit bike?! What if you:
- Prefer a shit bike
- Have other priorities
- Have other commitments?

[YellowDog]

I guess that for some the $50k bike is a status symbol and hence a direct reflection on their income however for most it is a reflection on their passion or committment to riding.

If riding is your life and everything else comes second, then a low income person may well have an expensive and fairly current bike.

If your bike is merely means of getting from A-B and nothing more, then regardless of income, the bike isn't going to be up to much.

Does it really matter?

[avgas]

Sometimes big flash bike means big debt (for others not me) for me i buy what i can afford at the time (and what my tastes are)
the SRX i currently have is just to keep me amused while i kill time before my trip to US. Where my old FZ1 was "my bike" which i bought to keep forever......but had to sell before going to Aus (dumb idea that was).
If i had a bottomless pit of money i prob still wouldn't buy new bikes unless i really wanted it. Where as my dad likes to upgrade to the new model every few years.
Hell i wouldn't mind an 98 Bandit - or an 88 GSXR Fighter......but circumstances other than money also dictate the bike.

[avgas]

But if you earn well there's no reason to buy a shit bike?!

I love shit bikes.....but i also like expensive bikes.
I would probably rather have 2 x 10K bikes rather than 1 x 20K one.
Its like work just gave me a nice shiny new focus turbo. And like driving my shitty $1000 mazda much more than driving the new focus.

[Squid]

Does it reflect your income or perhaps your atitude to living within your means?

When I got off my restricted I only had 4k to spend and so got the mental gixxer, best move ever :) Yes its tried to bite back a couple of times but I like it. Some days its a bitch to ride a 200kg bike and a nice little R6 or R1 would be nice but theres somthing about having a old semi rugged bike that screams "I dont give a shit" :first:

[98tls]

A mate gave me a ride up to the big smoke to pick up a ute i shelled out $26,000 cash for,whilst up there we had a look through a few bike shops,the only thing i found that made me think :stoogie: maybe i dont really need a new ute was a 78 900SS.

[mynameis]

You'll also see a lot of people with flash bikes paying 27% interest on 15k loan.

By the time they end up paying back they would have dished out 25k and the bike would hardly be worth 5k, so NO.

[Insanity_rules]

I bought my bike cause I could own it outright and I like it. Got nothing to do with impressing anyone else or trying to look flash. Besides I was starting to look stupid turning up to the wednesday night ride on a cow.

[Molly]

Does your bike reflect how much you earn?



I've no idea. It's a matter of perception. My car's a piece of shit and my house is a renovation project. On the face of it I must look broke. My bikes, I suppose, aren't worth enough to suggest I'm loaded either.

That suits me fine. I'm not out to impress anybody and anybody who is impressed by a bike just because it's valuable is a f'kin' cock.

[bsasuper]

Depends on what sort of person you are, some have to have the latest for the cool factor and upgrade every model,some are at that point in time when they can buy the latest and its their first new bike.I have a few bikes in the shed,one is a 2009 year,but I choose to ride a 2000 year more often,simply because I like it, and its quite capable of keeping up with the latest on the road.

[tri boy]

Nout wrong with your 98 Bandit mate.
It leaves alot of sprotbike riders behind. (the rider has a bit to do with that)
Fuck the red rep johny's.

[98tls]

You'll also see a lot of people with flash bikes paying 27% interest on 15k loan.

By the time they end up paying back they would have dished out 25k and the bike would hardly be worth 5k, so NO. No problem,this is the land of "image is everything"Ive no doubt they dont even see the people on lesser bikes passing them,ive often chuckled at the "image is everything" guy dehydrating to death in his blimp suit at rallys leaning on his newly acquired fashion statement honestly believing people are looking at him thinking "fuck me theres Carl Fogarty".

[dogsnbikes]

I have 6 bikes 5 are pre 89 one is 05 does it reflect my income not at all just my passion for my bikes and quality shed time:laugh:

[avgas]

ooooooooooo i want a pop-up katana!
Now thats not new or expensive

[DarkLord]

I don't earn a huge amount, but I only owe a few hundred bucks on my bike now so I'm not too fussed, I'll have it paid off in a week or so.

I'd rather have a Hyosung that I actually own rather than a really expensive bike I'll be paying off for the next 5 years, especially considering the job market out there. The last thing you want is to be stuck paying off an expensive bike with no income!!

[BAD DAD]

I wouldn't want to waste too much time worrying about what others think about my material goods. I am always suspicious of blokes who worry about what other blokes are wearing, same goes for brand, age or style of bike.
And isn't red repping a bit childish anway? Mate, just ignore it.

[carver]

Get a Gixxer!
it was me!
Bandits suck, GSXR's rule!

[smoky]

Get a Gixxer!
it was me!
Bandits suck, GSXR's rule!
To fat to ride a GiXeR
And it said in the good book of moron "they shalt not ride bandits, for it shall corrupt your soul"

[carver]

To fat to ride a GiXeR

Just "beef up' the rear shock

[bsasuper]

Get a Gixxer!
it was me!
Bandits suck, GSXR's rule!

Perfect example of a poser/tosser

[smoky]

Perfect example of a poser/tosser

especially when he turns up at the pub on a mini pit bike in full leathers

[SMOKEU]

If I see a nice bike in a bad area then it's probably been stolen. But if I see a nice bike in a rich area then it's probably all legit.

[carver]

Perfect example of a poser/tosser

thanks

red rep heading your way

[humphrt]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsasuper
Perfect example of a poser/tosser

especially when he turns up at the pub on a mini pit bike in full leathers

Nah that just shows commitment :niceone:

I got my cheap bike because its all i could afford at the time. So it a way for those of us in the lower income bracket(who cant be f**ked with debt) our bikes will reflect our income, but not for everyone. Who care anyways, we ride for the thrill/fun/etc..... dont we?

[Conquiztador]

I could not care less what ppl think about my bike. I buy bikes cheap, fix them up while using them and then sell for more than I paid for her. And move to the next one. I am also a single parent with 3 young boys at home who in an article I just had a read off apperently costs over $500/week. I have considered telling them "Sorry about porridge again for dinner, but in three years time when the bike is paid off we will again eat meat" But don't think they'll understand.

[EJK]

It's both. All depends on people.

[tigertim20]

Do you think that the (perceived) quality of the bike you ride, assessed by how much others think it’s worth, reflect your income?

For some reason a couple of people on KB, who have taken exception at what I have posted lately, and decided to leave abuse on my profile or thru red rep – have both made comments on how much they earn compared to me?
And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit

As they have no idea how much I earn, I can only assume they relate the fact that I ride an older cheaper bike to a lack of funds?
Is this a common perception?
Does your bike reflect how much you earn?

I’ve never really looked at what some one rides and thought they must be wealthy, or they must be broke?


depends on individual perception I gues.
I know a guy who every year trades up to a brand new ZX10. So he is paying it off at about a hundred bucks a week, and always has the latest ZX10R. I think he is a fucking idiot because he is in constant debt of 15K, he doesnt give a shit cos he earns plenty and can afford it
Me on the other hand got a 600 for 2K, and it goes great, flickable, smooth, and plenty quick enough, I dont see the point spending 18k on a brand new bike when my 2k bike suits my purpose just fine.
Then theres the ones who buy a bike for $500, strip it, spend 8k rebuilding it, knowing it will only be worth 2.5k at resale.....

[scracha]

What if you:
- Prefer a shit bike
- Have other priorities
- Have other commitments?

Kerching.........some folk prioritise housing, holidays, kids, booze, drugs, dogs, horses, computers, boats, planes, cars or motorbikes. I can't understand folk who judge people based on their apparent wealth....and that works both ways.

It's a bit like expensive cars......I have absolutely no interest in cars, they're all pretty bombproof and they all do 90mph. I'd get a lot of shit from workmates about my 200 pound (uk pounds) cars. Funny thing was I'd normally get a couple of years from these $hitmobiles and spend absolutely fark all on them whereas they'd have endless problems with their new flashmobiles.

[skidMark]

It depends, alot of people have ther things to spend money n so they could earn alot but the bike is a playtoy

but if smebdy is riding a 1098r... they arn't exactly broke ass, hell all i live and breathe is bikes and i cant afford one! :doh:

[triple-bee]

I learned a very long time ago never judge a book by it,s cover I used to work for a guy who looked like he was starving to death, same clothes, real shit car then one day he turned up in his helicopter with an envelope full of cash to thank me and the other lads for the job we had done :eek:

[Paul in NZ]

And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit



A 98 Bandit? Flashy rich prick..... :eek:

I have more fun with Vickis 1971 AC50 than with anything new, who cares, march to the sound of your own drummer man...

[YellowDog]

I learned a very long time ago never judge a book by it,s cover I used to work for a guy who looked like he was starving to death, same clothes, real shit car then one day he turned up in his helicopter with an envelope full of cash to thank me and the other lads for the job we had done :eek:
I do know some wealthy people who have become wealthy by not spending any money on themselves.

"A fool and their money are easily parted"

[skidMark]

I do know some wealthy people who have become wealthy by not spending any money on themselves.

"A fool and their money are easily parted"


Yes and no

I spend my money and enjoy life with it, no point saving like hell and being miserable, then you drop dead...

one day at a time is how i live, for me it works. I have medica conditins that coud drop me off the perch at anytime so i'm living it up while i still can.

[The Stranger]

hehe I ticked both cos it would let me! :clap:

Aww how clever, and I really like that you felt the need to share that with us.
Well done.

[The Stranger]

For some reason a couple of people on KB, who have taken exception at what I have posted lately, and decided to leave abuse on my profile or thru red rep – have both made comments on how much they earn compared to me?
And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit



I'm not sure which is more tragic, that you got upset about it, or that you felt the need for some warm fuzzies from KB.

[Okey Dokey]

First off, sorry you got some abuse and red rep- glad to hear you are not going to worry about it.

I don't think bike & income can be linked. Priorities determine a lot... poor person can be determined to have bike and save to get it. Rich person may decide to get swimming pool and buy cheap bike.

[Goblin]

No. What makes me laugh though, is the people who have to be seen on the flashest, most expensive bike, live in a half million dollar house that's actually owned by the bank, boast about their income...then see their empire crumble with the economy. :laugh:

[sinfull]

It's all about choices i recon !
I'm at the stage of life, where SOME would say i should be settled and in my own home rah de rah !
My income is SFA at the moment, but i have a bit of money stashed away, which subsidises the income (should read subsidised)
I decided after splitting the last matrimonial property up, that i was gonna enjoy life for a few years and own bikes rather than my own place ! So thats what i've done !
Two late model bikes, one for road, one for racing and i just purchased a classic for a restoration hobby !
(edit: Nah gonna race that fooka too)
It has knocked a hole in my investments which means my lifestyle gets a little knock, (just a little) But that is two words aye and what is life without style ?
If you were to walk into my home you wouldn't say i was wealthy, shit my entertainment centre (tv stereo pc) was given to me 7 years ago when i first set up flat after being overseas and still all go so why replace em !
I won't try and keep up with the jones's, be more likely to piss in his back pocket than try and impress him !
I drive vehicals that most would balk at ! Most i've ever paid is 4 k for the van which i now drive to carry my race bike to the track !
The rest i have never lost money on, (if you work on the assumption that a car devalues at around a thou per year !)
The more ya earn the more ya burn !!!
I have had a salary in excess of 100 k, but chucked it to enjoy the job which i earnt 40 k (It was only an injury that stops me doing it now !) and the lifestyle hasn't really changed at all !

So I vote no ! Anyone who judges a book by it's cover (or ride in this instance) is as shallow as a teaspoon !

[Ixion]

Well, as y'all know I'm just a poor impoverished old man ekeing out a penurious and frugal existence on the smell of an oily rag.

So, I need to have old clunkers, cos new bikes don't have oil leaks, and then how would the rag get oily? I'd starve if I had a new bike.

[pritch]

It depends, alot of people have ther things to spend money n so they could earn alot but the bike is a playtoy


If I may (mis)quote peter Egan, "bikes are either tools or toys". Which description applies depends on the bike and the use to which it is put. Briefly, comunters are tools, sprotbikes are toys. A sports tourer may be either depending what it's doing at the time.

A persons bike may be indicative of income, someone who buys an MV as a communter for instance? :devil2:

Some people though have different priorities to the norm. I knew a guy who owned a tidy Goldwing. He owned nothing else and lived in an establishment that was pretty close to being a half-way house. That Goldwing was the most important thing in his life.

Whatever turns your crank...

[gijoe1313]

I luvvies my ol'clunkers and smokers I does! :yes: If you love your ride for what you ride it for, then that is the best possible of worlds ...

Stuff the knockers and just get on with your life I says! :msn-wink:

[YellowDog]

Yes and no

I spend my money and enjoy life with it, no point saving like hell and being miserable, then you drop dead...

one day at a time is how i live, for me it works. I have medica conditins that coud drop me off the perch at anytime so i'm living it up while i still can.
Well that's fair enough.

A miserable life is never a good idea if it can be avoided.

[LBD]

Its a broad generalization, but of course it does.

Hands up those who, if the had available disposable readies, would up grade their bike?

I would be shocked to find a busted seat o the pants student, riding around on the latest top shelf bike and likewise a high income earning sports bike fan getting around on a GN 250...

[Winston001]

Its a broad generalization, but of course it does.

Hands up those who, if the had available disposable readies, would up grade their bike?

I would be shocked to find a busted seat o the pants student, riding around on the latest top shelf bike and likewise a high income earning sports bike fan getting around on a GN 250...

10+ characters.

What most of you are answering is "Does my bike reflect my income?" That isn't the question - its about other peoples perceptions, not your own.

When I got back into rallies in 2005 I was gob-smacked at the machines which arrived. Back in the 1980s rat-bikes were common, of all ages and descriptions. Expensive bikes such as HD were unusual and drew attention.

Now there are millions of dollars of bikes casually strewn around on site and no-one pays much attention. In fact the rat-bikes are more likely to draw grins and admiration.

The simple explanation is bike buyers are older and wealthier than years ago. Our incomes (and/or savings) are higher. I don't see any need to be embarrassed by it. There will always be jealous envious types who sneer but they are just sad.

[Hiflyer]

Aww how clever, and I really like that you felt the need to share that with us.
Well done.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm only here to help

On that note, if your quoting powerthirst in your signature, your quoting it wrong. :doh:

[Max Preload]

My income dictates I could buy a new $20k bike with just over 2 months of 40hr weeks. Trouble is though, I've been looking for months for a replacement since I binned mine and nothing I've seen appeals.

I'm not prone to just buying something just because I can - I prefer to get something I want. If there's nothing I want, that's exactly what I get.

[no_8wire]

Nope. I have a friend who in his mid thirties is retired, owning a large lifestlye block and investment properties etc but who chooses to ride a mid 80's POS bike.

People just have different ideas of what is important I guess.

[LBD]

Nope. I have a friend who in his mid thirties is retired, owning a large lifestlye block and investment properties etc but who chooses to ride a mid 80's POS bike.

People just have different ideas of what is important I guess.

The exception that proves the rule....

[SixPackBack]

Sounds like smoky is a broken arsed coont with no money and a POS bike.....getting pissy 'cos he can't afford a decent machine.
Get a haircut and get a real job.

[Mikkel]

Well, the bike will at least give you an idea of the minimum net worth of the owner... I mean, someone riding a Desmosedici isn't likely to be starving, no matter what priorities they may have made.

The opposite is not true. Plenty of very wealthy people out there who doesn't show it off in any way whatsoever.


On the other hand, those people who buy something cheapish to mid-range only to trash it completely in a short time must have a reasonable disposable income since that's effectively money down the drain.

[ManDownUnder]

And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit

Small minds are only capable of weak argument. Don't sweat it.

Besides which - why is income actuaolly important? I might be in the top, or the bottom 5% of income earners on KB. Doesn't make me any more or less of a person/man/KBer/biker/... etc

Who really gives a shit? And perhaps more telling... why do they give it?

[PirateJafa]

When I got back into rallies in 2005 I was gob-smacked at the machines which arrived. Back in the 1980s rat-bikes were common, of all ages and descriptions. Expensive bikes such as HD were unusual and drew attention.

Now there are millions of dollars of bikes casually strewn around on site and no-one pays much attention. In fact the rat-bikes are more likely to draw grins and admiration.

I think it's also partially due to a loss in the Kiwi No. 8 mentality. More and more people are unwilling to give it a go themselves, but they still respect (and even envy) the characteristic in other people.

[Ixion]

Much overrated, #8 wire. #12 is much more useful .

[h_tron]

i think definately not! i am an electrical apprentice and have saved my balls off to buy a brand new r6 which i am really stoked with. have had to cut down on going out and getting on the piss etc, but having the bike makes it more then worth it

[humphrt]

Briefly, comunters are tools, sprotbikes are toys

So i tool around on a toy?

[jtzzr]

So i tool around on a toy?

Wrong thread bro , you want the biker angels thread.:doctor:

[beyond]

You could own the latest most expensive Ducati and not own anything else of course or you could own a mediocre bike and a car a house and be keeping a wife with young uns eh?

As for me... I ride a GSX1400 because I just love these bikes and what they can do. BUT... you cannot buy a cheaper bike per CC as a GSX1400 and I thing that covers scooters too :) BUT I think I earn a reasonable salary.

BUT... I do have a house, a car and a wife I keep :) :msn-wink:

[Maha]

Shit Bike = Poor Income?
Possibly correct.

If you do not earn a reasonable income then, taking into consideration, all other financial out-goings, it is possible that you can only afford a less than desireable bike. On the bright side, at least you have a bike.
If you earn a reasonable income then chances are, you can afford a bike thats unshit.
Whatever you earn, the bike you have/own is the best you can afford given your financial circumstances at any one time. Shit or not, its a bike and you own it.

[browny]

i voted yes.its a common perception, if yove got flash shit you must be rich.it doesnt matter that you may not be.

[HungusMaximist]

i voted yes.its a common perception, if yove got flash shit you must be rich.it doesnt matter that you may not be.

No.

There a fuck load of poseurs out there who buy shit on borrowed money, who can't even afford to support the debt.

So what happens is, their possession/bike/car/boat/bach/house owns them, not the other way around. Chipping away at their 45 hour a week job just so they can pay the bank, their bank manager and their credit card company.

Yea?

[h_tron]

No.

There a fuck load of poseurs out there who buy shit on borrowed money, who can't even afford to support the debt.

So what happens is, their possession/bike/car/boat/bach/house owns them, not the other way around. Chipping away at their 45 hour a week job just so they can pay the bank, their bank manager and their credit card company.

Yea?

i personally, borrowed money for my bike mainly cause yamaha had a real good deal on finance (4.99 compared too 11.99-ish) and can afford to make payments etc cause i manage my money. i must say thou that you are right, there is also alot of finace companies giving money to these "poseurs" (well atleast there used to be untill they all fell thru:bleh:).

[Nik]

I voted "no coz I have a pretty average income I guess and have owned some fairly average bikes. Recently had a choice... new carpet or gorgeous brand new bike...just bought a cheap mat to cover the holes, not planning on being home enough over summer to worry about it!

[browny]

No.

There a fuck load of poseurs out there who buy shit on borrowed money, who can't even afford to support the debt.

So what happens is, their possession/bike/car/boat/bach/house owns them, not the other way around. Chipping away at their 45 hour a week job just so they can pay the bank, their bank manager and their credit card company.

Yea?

absolutly.im not saying everyone with a flash car/bike evens owns it they most likely dont.im sayingits acommon perception,or at least i thought it was,look at the tossers you see wearing $500 sunnys or wont wear it cos it doesnt have alabel,why?,to look like they got money

[scracha]

Well, the bike will at least give you an idea of the minimum net worth of the owner... I mean, someone riding a Desmosedici isn't likely to be starving, no matter what priorities they may have made.

Nut. Seem to recall a tale of some poseur trying to break a top speed record on a flashy Ducati. Trouble was he was in debt up to his eyeballs and left his creditors high and dry.



Whatever you earn, the bike you have/own is the best you can afford given your financial circumstances at any one time. Shit or not, its a bike and you own it

Totally and utterly disagree with that statement. Lotsa peeps own a bike they can't afford and lotsa other peeps own a bike that's way cheaper than "the best" they can afford.



Hands up those who, if the had available disposable readies, would up grade their bike?

Nope. Better things to spend money on*.



I would be shocked to find a busted seat o the pants student, riding around on the latest top shelf bike and likewise a high income earning sports bike fan getting around on a GN 250...
I had a flashy sportsbike as a student and it was all on finance...couldn't afford fark all else though. Conversely, as a "high income earning sports bike fan" I ran around on a $1000 fooked XJ550 that had about 250,000Km's on the clock. One of the senior programmers (a.k.a. very bright, very high earning uuuber geek) ran about on a CB100. He would rave about how he could ride it for 2 weeks on 5 quid's worth of petrol.


* If I won the lottery I'd do le' grand tour of every track on planet earth.

[smoky]

I'm not sure which is more tragic, that you got upset about it, or that you felt the need for some warm fuzzies from KB.

You miss understand - where do I say I got upset?
I don't get upset about red rep at all (I get so much of it I'd be upset all the time)

But it did intrigue me why some people would jump to the conclusion I must be a poor bugger and not earn much money - and presume it was because my bike wasn't as flash as there's?

I have thought about changing it because I love the mean look of some of the sports bikes I ride with, but in reality - the bandit does everything I want it to do (after a few mods).

I guess I could upgrade to a 'flasher' bike, but I actually get a bit of pleasure riding with some nice sports bike, keeping up (almost) on my POS $4000 bike

[scumdog]

In my experience mate, flash bike probably means a big HP debt or a great lease deal, it has nothing to do with income at all.

True.

Had to scrape and save and sell my car AND get a loan to get my first then 12 year old and tired Harley.

[NighthawkNZ]

I have a shit job... and a shit bike... but its my shit bike... and its what I wanted...

[Mom]

True.

Had to scrape and save and sell my car AND get a loan to get my first then 12 year old and tired Harley.

Luxury!

I had to get my man to buy my blue lovely for me :D

[MarkH]

have both made comments on how much they earn compared to me?
And then insulted my piece of shit 1998 Bandit

*shrug*

If someone wants to look down on me because they earn more than me then so what? I will just look down on them because they are a cunt!

Insulting your bike? No one needs to like a bike apart from the person that owns and rides it! I like some bikes more than others - but that is only my personal preferences, when I go to buy a bike I will decide what I want to ride and wont be giving a rat's arse what anyone else thinks of any bike.

Ride your own ride mate!

[modboy]

I agree with a lot of the comments here smokey, just ignore the tossers.

I rode a vespa for 4 years before I got the Triumph, I didn't give a toss what people thought - I still think the vespa (PX200) is cool. I saved hard for a year, got rid of my credit card debts and stuff so I could get the triumph, I earn a pretty modest salary, I bought what I could afford. But then, at the moment at least, I can't think of any other bike I'd rather have.

And - here's something to laugh about. First bike - Honda CB100 (hardcore!)
I rode it for years like a dirtbike, I got pinged for doing a wheelie up Waiwhetu Road (Lower Hutt) :Police: It was a dog of a bike, haha, but I still loved it at the time.

oh yea - for those wondering how tf you wheelie a CB100, full revs in second, clutch flick and pull up hard - haha.
(I haven't even thought about it on the thruxton :baby:

[smoky]

Good points



What most of you are answering is "Does my bike reflect my income?" That isn't the question - its about other peoples perceptions, not your own.

When I got back into rallies in 2005 I was gob-smacked at the machines which arrived. Back in the 1980s rat-bikes were common, of all ages and descriptions. Expensive bikes such as HD were unusual and drew attention.

Now there are millions of dollars of bikes casually strewn around on site and no-one pays much attention. In fact the rat-bikes are more likely to draw grins and admiration.

The simple explanation is bike buyers are older and wealthier than years ago. Our incomes (and/or savings) are higher. ....
And it's been very easy for people to get credit
People today aren't afraid to borrow thousands - it use to to be considered foolish to borrow a lot of money for a bike


10+ characters.
I think you typed more than 10 characters?

[smoky]

The exception that proves the rule....

I must be the other exception

[smoky]

Sounds like smoky is a broken arsed coont with no money and a POS bike.....
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Get a haircut and get a real job.

nah - I haven't even got enough hair to get a hair cut

[smoky]

I might be in the top, or the bottom 5% of income earners on KB. Doesn't make me any more or less of a person/man/KBer/biker/... etc


No matter how well we think we're doing in life - it's always best to be grateful, to keep in mind the saying; "but for the grace of god - go I"

[SPman]

The simple explanation is bike buyers are older and wealthier than years ago. Our incomes (and/or savings) are higher.

What!
When did this happen!
Why didn't someone let me know!
Does this mean I have to, at least clean and polish Big Blue.........

[Sue VFR]

Can we have a Yes AND No option?

[smoky]

Can we have a Yes AND No option?

Yes - vote twice

[The Stranger]

You miss understand - where do I say I got upset?


Your first post.
No wonder you have a shit bike and low income with an attitude like that.

[Two Smoker]

I'm not sure which is more tragic, that you got upset about it, or that you felt the need for some warm fuzzies from KB.
I thought you gave everyone warm fuzzies on KB?

[The Stranger]

I thought you gave everyone warm fuzzies on KB?

Nah, I just save that warm fuzzy stuff for a select few - you want some?

[Two Smoker]

Nah, I just save that warm fuzzy stuff for a select few - you want some?

bahaha i thought your select few were most of KB?

[smoky]

Your first post.
No wonder you have a shit bike and low income with an attitude like that.
that just proves you can't read very well

Why does everyone on KB with a green ME after their name seem to think it's their job to be an antagonistic wanker ??
My green POS bandit has more street cred

[Two Smoker]

Nah, I just save that warm fuzzy stuff for a select few - you want some?

I see smoky is getting some warm fuzzies! Looks like he wants to share the warm fuzzies back!

[The Stranger]

Why does everyone on KB with a green ME after their name seem to think it's their job to be an antagonistic wanker ??


Yeah, well could be worse, I could be like you - an antagonistic wanker with a shit bike and a low income.

Oh and great street cred, you must feel so fucken cool when you see somone on a GN250.

[smoky]

Yeah, well could be worse, I could be like you - an antagonistic wanker with a shit bike and a low income.

Oh and great street cred, you must feel so fucken cool when you see somone on a GN250.
And you ride a ..........


Don't be jealous of my Bandit - no ones judging you really, it's only KB you don't need to compete with me, I know you're just lonely, I'll be your friend if you ask nicely

[The Stranger]

And you ride a ..........


Don't be jealous of my Bandit - no ones judging you really, it's only KB you don't need to compete with me, I know you're just lonely, I'll be your friend if you ask nicely

2008 MV Agusta F4-R 312, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Thanks for the offer to be my friend, I could use someone to clean and polish my bike.

[SixPackBack]

And you ride a ..........


Don't be jealous of my Bandit - no ones judging you really, it's only KB you don't need to compete with me, I know you're just lonely, I'll be your friend if you ask nicely

Trying to illicit sex from The Stranger won't get you a new bike.:no:

[Two Smoker]

At least I dont have to compensate with the size of my engine and expense of my bike... Thats why I ride a FXR150...

[smoky]

2008 MV Agusta F4-R 312, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?


Can you ride it?

[Two Smoker]

Trying to illicit sex from The Stranger won't get you a new bike.:no:

Thats coz you tried aye?

[The Stranger]

Can you ride it?

Who gives a fuck, I can afford it so why not piss the peasants off. Not my problem.

Can you ride yours?

[SixPackBack]

Thats coz you tried aye?

Well he is a sexy bitch:eek:

[Two Smoker]

Well he is a sexy bitch:eek:

Well yeah... but he is no HDT_boy or jayracer37...

[smoky]

At least I dont have to compensate with the size of my engine and expense of my bike... Thats why I ride a FXR150...

he must have a very small penis then

[The Stranger]

Well yeah... but he is no HDT_boy or jayracer37...

How can I compete with Jay in lycra - I still get hard just thinking about that.

[smoky]

Who gives a fuck, I can afford it so why not piss the peasants off. Not my problem.

Can you ride yours?

Didn't you see me go past you, last time I saw you out on a ride you were pissing around like a moron

[Two Smoker]

he must have a very small penis then

Yep! Look at the phallic shape of that bike... Pure Compensation...

[SixPackBack]

Well yeah... but he is no HDT_boy or jayracer37...

True that. :niceone:

[Two Smoker]

Didn't you see me go past you, last time I saw you out on a ride you were pissing around like a moron

Fark i wish i was awesome like you...

[smoky]

How can I compete with Jay in lycra - I still get hard just thinking about that.
Don't let it get you down buddy, there is help for you; http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/850161/is_having_a_small_penis_getting_you.html

Don't try to live up to unreal expectations, not everyone can be as cool as I am on an ol POS bandit

[Two Smoker]

Don't let it get you down buddy, there is help for you; http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/850161/is_having_a_small_penis_getting_you.html

Don't try to live up to unreal expectations, not everyone can be as cool as I am on an ol POS bandit

You came up with that website pretty fast... Saved to your favourites?

[smoky]

You came up with that website pretty fast... Saved to your favourites?
Nah - I've just a bigger e-penis as well

[The Stranger]

Don't let it get you down buddy, there is help for you; http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/850161/is_having_a_small_penis_getting_you.html

Don't try to live up to unreal expectations, not everyone can be as cool as I am on an ol POS bandit


Why your obsession with my cock ya homo- this is a biker site, not a fucken gay bar - go buy a honda - if you can afford one.

[jonbuoy]

Its easy to fool people into thinking you have money when you live on credit. Exactly why we are in this recession, people living beyond their means or paycheck to paycheck with no savings. If your happy to live on baked beans and rent a house so you can drive a new bike/car why the hell not. Other people are happy to ride/drive a middle of the road bike/car to save money or spend it on something that doesn't half its value in 5 years. Some can do both.

[sinfull]

Why your obsession with my cock ya homo- this is a biker site, not a fucken gay bar - go buy a honda - if you can afford one. Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! Bling ! Pick a 4 or 5 word phrase !

[Pedrostt500]

I ride what I ride, non of it is flash, I could afford to get a much more exspensive bike, but exspensive bikes need exspensive tyres, and exspensive tune ups on exspensive equipment, also requiring exspensive servicing, and if some thing breaks or goes wrong with an exspensive bike then it will be exspensive to fix, or you end up with an exspensive shed ornament.

I like to fix and tinker with my own bikes, its part of the interest for me, it is rear for me to send a bike to a shop to have anything done to it.

What I read between the lines and get is this thread should have been, "How to spot a Posser, a KB guide",
Now the first clue even before you see their bike is, they will be wearing all the branded gear, and it will all be shiny and new, the possers natural habitat is offten exspensive bike shops on saturdays, they will strutt around the shop, making out they are a hard core biker, they are easily told apart from an actual hard core biker as the gear hard core will be wearing will look like it is on its tenth circum navigation of the planet, and probably been around the planet at least a dozen more times.
Posser biker will say he did a long ride the other week he did 1000km in 5 days, hard core biker will have done a thousand Ks just going to the corner dairy for milk and bread.
Posser biker will probably know all the statistics on each model of Triumph or Harley Davidson, hard core probably rode the last 6 he owned from the crate into the ground.

[smoky]

Why your obsession with my cock ya homo- this is a biker site, not a fucken gay bar - go buy a honda - if you can afford one.

You call our self a biker?
You follow me around on KB, making no contribution to the topic, post to try to wind me up - then get upset when I have a bit of fun at your expense

So why don't you like gay people then - are you homophobic as well as a soft cock biker
:jerry:

[StoneY]

Does your bike reflect how much you earn?

In my case- no not at all.

But I know others who worry what the look/age/model/value of their machine reflects- to me if you like the bike your riding, who cares if you can or cant afford it- your in the fuckin wind hallelujah

[MaxB]

You miss understand - where do I say I got upset?
I don't get upset about red rep at all (I get so much of it I'd be upset all the time)

But it did intrigue me why some people would jump to the conclusion I must be a poor bugger and not earn much money - and presume it was because my bike wasn't as flash as there's?

I have thought about changing it because I love the mean look of some of the sports bikes I ride with, but in reality - the bandit does everything I want it to do (after a few mods).

I guess I could upgrade to a 'flasher' bike, but I actually get a bit of pleasure riding with some nice sports bike, keeping up (almost) on my POS $4000 bike

I know someone who has a bike like yours. At first glance it looks like standard. But then you see the Yoshi slip on, Wiseco stickers, White Power shocks etc. etc. and the best part of $5K spent on it. It goes and stops pretty well. There are heaps of litre superbikes still on the suspension settings they left the showroom with.

Appearances can be deceptive.

[The Stranger]

You call our self a biker?
You follow me around on KB, making no contribution to the topic, post to try to wind me up - then get upset when I have a bit of fun at your expense

So why don't you like gay people then - are you homophobic as well as a soft cock biker
:jerry:


There you go again, on about my cock, let it go, one day you'll have one - if you can afford the op.

Oh yeah, so upset I'm fooken inconsolable (that's not an invite fag)

[smoky]

What I read between the lines and get is this thread should have been, "How to spot a Posser, a KB guide",
Now the first clue even before you see their bike is, they will be wearing all the branded gear, and it will all be shiny and new, the possers natural habitat is offten exspensive bike shops on saturdays, they will strutt around the shop, making out they are a hard core biker,

It always puts a smile on my face following them on their state of the art bikes, flash as full race gear, and shifting their arse over and droppin the knee out in every corner they can
looks good I suppose

[Two Smoker]

It always puts a smile on my face following them on their state of the art bikes, flash as full race gear, and shifting their arse over and droppin the knee out in every corner they can
looks good I suppose

Looks even better if you can actually do it...

[Pedrostt500]

It always puts a smile on my face following them on their state of the art bikes, flash as full race gear, and shifting their arse over and droppin the knee out in every corner they can
looks good I suppose

Yes Human nature is the funniest comedy you can watch.

[smoky]

There you go again, on about my cock, let it go, one day you'll have one - if you can afford the op.

Oh yeah, so upset I'm fooken inconsolable (that's not an invite fag)

What's the matter Stranger? have I upset you?
why don't you go have a hot chocolate and an early night - you'll feel better in the morning
You can sign on KB and admire your nice green ME, and think about how proud you are, and I promise I'll be nice to you
:laugh:

[Qkkid]

You ride the bike you ride:niceone:
Who gives a fuck what it is and how much.
Its about choices, who cares what anyone else thinks.
I certainly dont give a shit and why should anyone else.

[Maha]

Why your obsession with my cock ya homo- this is a biker site, not a fucken gay bar - go buy a honda - if you can afford one.

For someone so well hung, its a wonder you dont own a Honda....:bleh:
You will fit right in.....:moon:

EDIT: Sorry, had you confused with Enigma.

[LBD]

I ride what I ride, non of it is flash, I could afford to get a much more exspensive bike, but exspensive bikes need exspensive tyres, and exspensive tune ups on exspensive equipment, also requiring exspensive servicing, and if some thing breaks or goes wrong with an exspensive bike then it will be exspensive to fix, or you end up with an exspensive shed ornament.

I like to fix and tinker with my own bikes, its part of the interest for me, it is rear for me to send a bike to a shop to have anything done to it.

What I read between the lines and get is this thread should have been, "How to spot a Posser, a KB guide",
Now the first clue even before you see their bike is, they will be wearing all the branded gear, and it will all be shiny and new, the possers natural habitat is offten exspensive bike shops on saturdays, they will strutt around the shop, making out they are a hard core biker, they are easily told apart from an actual hard core biker as the gear hard core will be wearing will look like it is on its tenth circum navigation of the planet, and probably been around the planet at least a dozen more times.
Posser biker will say he did a long ride the other week he did 1000km in 5 days, hard core biker will have done a thousand Ks just going to the corner dairy for milk and bread.
Posser biker will probably know all the statistics on each model of Triumph or Harley Davidson, hard core probably rode the last 6 he owned from the crate into the ground.


I ride what I ride and I think it is flash....its not cheap but thats not a boast it is just what it is.

I worked bloody hard to get where I can earn a good wage, I work bloody hard to earn that wage, ...I have have been gainfully 35 years with out break.

I have one expensive hobby...my bike and riding it. AND I do ride it. And when it comes up in conversation I will mention how far I ride to get milk and bread irrespective of any label you want to use to describe me.

I do have some Duc branded accessories though not worn while riding because that would be a little over the top, and many accessories on the bike which, with 3 exceptions follow my form follow function rule.

You do not need to follow my lead, the world would be too boring, you are an indvidual free to make your choices. I do not use labels on people as you do...Don't dare try and put me in any of your little boxes just because I choose to ride what I ride....

[The Stranger]

What's the matter Stranger? have I upset you?
why don't you go have a hot chocolate and an early night - you'll feel better in the morning
You can sign on KB and admire your nice green ME, and think about how proud you are, and I promise I'll be nice to you
:laugh:

No thanks, I'll admire my nice MV and and feel better cause I know out there is some poor loser who is stuck riding a bandit.

[Two Smoker]

No thanks, I'll admire my nice MV and and feel better cause I know out there is some poor loser who is stuck riding a bandit.

mean, i wish i had an MV

[The Stranger]

mean, i wish i had an MV

It's alright, you can come and stroke mine anytime you like.

[Two Smoker]

You ride the bike you ride:niceone:
Who gives a fuck what it is and how much.
Its about choices, who cares what anyone else thinks.
I certainly dont give a shit and why should anyone else.

Thats coz you ride a B-king :p

[smoky]

I ride what I ride and I think it is flash....its not cheap but thats not a boast it is just what it is.

I worked bloody hard to get where I can earn a good wage, I work bloody hard to earn that wage, ...I have have been gainfully 35 years with out break.


Ducati S4RS is a very nice ride, I like that kinda bike

[smoky]

No thanks, I'll admire my nice MV and and feel better cause I know out there is some poor loser who is stuck riding a bandit.

Yeah but I can actually ride my Bandit

We all know your the best rider on here stranger - you must be because you have an MV and you have a green ME after your name
So you don't need to go on about it - we believe you
honest - everyone thinks your cool, for real
:baby::baby:

[BMWST?]

lets just all be happy that some people do buy new bikes all the time so we can have them when they are passed over for next years model.....

[Qkkid]

Thats coz you ride a B-king :p

Silly me :slap::slap::blip:Of course.........

[Two Smoker]

Yeah but I can actually ride my Bandit

We all know your the best rider on here stranger - you must be because you have an MV and you have a green ME after your name
So you don't need to go on about it - we believe you
honest - everyone thinks your cool, for real
:baby::baby:

I do... hehehe

[Subike]

My old girl is only worth anything to me.
If I tried to sell it I would probably have to pay somebody to take it away.
If I was to have saved the money I have spent on her in the past three years alone, I could have put down the deposit on a Harley.
But
I own my bike, have done for 7 years and will do for a long time to come.
If there are snobby bastards who want to laugh at her,
then they can go fuck themselves,
their bikes are probably owned by a fince company
have been paid for from a bank loan
even worst bought for them by a bitch.
Many of us on here worked hard to get our rides,
Saved our dollars and paid cash for something we wanted.
I see a heap of wanna be bikers on flash new bikes, but thats all they are wanna be's.
I dont doubt that there are many here also with the good fortune of having a good income and can buy a new bike each year, or when ever.
A shit bike in whos eyes should be the question,

[LBD]

Seems like there a bit of paranoia induced reverse snobbery starting to creep in to this thread in the form of attacking imaginery perceived snobs....

I cannot think of anyone who wou ...okay, maybe a couple to again prove the rule....who would look down their noses at anything less than a Desmodeci or some such. The fact that we ride should be enough to unite, irrespective of what the ride is...

And yes I have been riding at both ends of the spectrum and no I am not a born again rider and no I do not have worn knee sliders....or any knee sliders for that matter....

[StoneY]

The fact that we ride should be enough to unite, irrespective of what the ride is...

Amen bruvver....a f u c k e n men
:niceone:

[Two Smoker]

The fact that we ride should be enough to unite, irrespective of what the ride is...



Nah, there are still cocks that ride all types of bikes...

[LBD]

Nah, there are still cocks that ride all types of bikes...

Agreed, but we cant go around deciding who are cocks based on what they ride....what their budget is or what they spend it on...


How the dress....maybe:msn-wink:

[The Stranger]

Yeah but I can actually ride my Bandit

We all know your the best rider on here stranger - you must be because you have an MV and you have a green ME after your name
So you don't need to go on about it - we believe you
honest - everyone thinks your cool, for real
:baby::baby:

Not a bad fishing expedition.
4 reds including 2 from some self confessed Rossi wannabe on a bandit who wasn't getting wound up.

Loser your preconcieved ideas of your stellar riding ability are more far fetched than the original premise of those that made you have a paddy and throw your toys in the first place.

[scracha]

Why your obsession with my cock ya homo- this is a biker site, not a fucken gay bar -

Good stuff...I like. Thread's getting interesting. :jerry:



go buy a honda - if you can afford one.

Then you had to spoil it. Booooring. Unoriginal. Nil Poi.


Do you think a person's grammar reflects their intelligence?


Pedantic barstewards of the world unite.

[chef]

i dono if you have the money usally people would get a nice bike. otherwise fuck themselves and put it on hp?

[That Guy]

Put it this way, if you suddenly won $5M power ball or whatever would you upgrade your bike or buy an additional fancy one?

If the answer is "yes" then probably yes, people's bikes reflect their income.

If the answer is "no" then probably no, people's bikes don't reflect their income.


I know if I won lotto a new bike or two would be on the list...so my income reflects the bikes I ride therefore. For me, bikes are toys, and toys should never ever be paid with anything other than cash.

[Max Preload]

i dono if you have the money usally people would get a nice bike. otherwise fuck themselves and put it on hp?

Depends what constitues 'nice' in your own mind. I don't consider most modern (2000 on) bikes 'nice' - the angles are too sharp. So on that basis I wouldn't buy one even though I can afford to.


Put it this way, if you suddenly won $5M power ball or whatever would you upgrade your bike or buy an additional fancy one?

If the answer is "yes" then probably yes, people's bikes reflect their income.

If the answer is "no" then probably no, people's bikes don't reflect their income.

I know if I won lotto a new bike or two would be on the list...so my income reflects the bikes I ride therefore. For me, bikes are toys, and toys should never ever be paid with anything other than cash.

One could logically extend that the fact you bought a superbike not a supercar that your income must be low...

[That Guy]

One could logically extend that the fact you bought a superbike not a supercar that your income must be low...

Yep I'd get a new car too. But I'd still get new bikes.

[smoky]

Put it this way, if you suddenly won $5M power ball or whatever would you upgrade your bike or buy an additional fancy one?


I would probably keep my bandit - (I've been thinking of putting a turbo in it so I can keep up with paddy) but I would like to buy another bike as well
But I would still have to convince the other half that I need more than one bike - that's the hard bit, not shortage of funds

[Max Preload]

Yep I'd get a new car too. But I'd still get new bikes.

Would you wear a T-shirt announcing your good fortune so everyone knows?

[buellbabe]

Personally i find much fun in sticking with late model riding mates through the good bits on my old Dinosaur.I admire new bikes/old bikes,what the owner earns a year i couldnt give a shit about...

Once again just a personal thing but as much as i would like a new Buell the fact is i would find the laughter from 600 gixxer owners on my tail through the good bits to much to bear so i wont bother.

Yep I have surprised a few Aprilia and Ducati riders when I pull up beside them and they realise its a Buell (and an OLD one) thats been up their dates.

They ask "what have you done to that Buell?" I reply honestly "nothing, its just that those roads were twisty and perfect for the Buell, if there had been any long straights you would have left me for dead!" hey the old girl has done a few kms now and doesn't have the top end to match the latest out there but she is still a primo ride.

And as far as a NEW Buell is concerned. Mike I DARE you to ride a CR and tell me that anyone is laughing at you.
trust me, they won't be. (PM coming)

Like Sidewinder said back on the first page "you can put anything on tick these days" so age/model/brand of bike has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on a persons income.

A mate of mine has a property, a Harley, an Aprilia, an HSV Commodore, a couple of off road bikes and what does he earn? I wouldn't have a bloody clue cos he never seems to do any work LOL. Actually I think he drives a rubbish truck when he can be bothered...go figure!

[Drew]

I've taken what you've been posting lately as a load of shit, and might even be one of the people abusing you.

But the simple fact of the matter is this, the '98 1200 Bandit is one of the best bikes on the planet. Very few people own them short term, and you can find them on trademe selling for more than the ugly as fuck new ones.

[MarkH]

Put it this way, if you suddenly won $5M power ball or whatever would you upgrade your bike or buy an additional fancy one?

If the answer is "yes" then probably yes, people's bikes reflect their income.

If the answer is "no" then probably no, people's bikes don't reflect their income.


I know if I won lotto a new bike or two would be on the list...so my income reflects the bikes I ride therefore. For me, bikes are toys, and toys should never ever be paid with anything other than cash.

This coming Saturday the lotto first division is the usual $1M and the powerball has jackpotted to ~$11.5M.

If I won the first division with powerball I would certainly spend some money, but would I buy a fancy one? The answer is no. I would upgrade my scooter to a new 650 Exec, which is certainly not a cheap bike at all - but is it what anyone would call fancy?

I would also buy a bike for weekend use, I kinda like something like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports//auction-227681560.htm and the obvious question is this: How would people judge me if that was what I was riding on group rides? Would they look at that bike as guess that I had won a total of $12.5M on lotto? Sure, I might trade up to something bigger after a couple of years riding that 650 - but does an SV650 qualify as a fancy bike that a multimillionaire might ride? There would most likely be dearer bikes on the ride that would be ridden by people with less money.

So, does your bikes value reflect your income? I would say yes to some degree, but certainly one is not directly proportional to the other.

[Morcs]

I love owning many different bikes (mostly not all at the same time though)

last two years I averaged a new bike every 3 months. If I total the amount spent I couldve bought a 1098, but I wouldnt. Id rather have change and variety.

[Max Preload]

I love owning many different bikes (mostly not all at the same time though)

last two years I averaged a new bike every 3 months. If I total the amount spent I couldve bought a 1098, but I wouldnt. Id rather have change and variety.

So would the dealers... :whistle:

[SPman]

At least I dont have to compensate with the size of my engine and expense of my bike... Thats why I ride a FXR150...
Some would say that's a come down, after the RG150.........

[Taz]

hehe I ticked both cos it would let me! :clap:
Me too. .

[98tls]

And as far as a NEW Buell is concerned. Mike I DARE you to ride a CR and tell me that anyone is laughing at you.
trust me, they won't be. (PM coming)

Na babe what i meant is there joy at keeping if not in front then at least right up my arse on something 1/2 the capacity.If a new bike was to be coming my way anytime soon i honestly think it would be a humble GSXR 750(fantastic motorcycle for the $ imho fwiw)thing is though it wont be as i get more pleasure mucking about with old ones than i ever did from buying a new one.What that says about my income ive no idea.:blink:

[That Guy]

Would you wear a T-shirt announcing your good fortune so everyone knows?


still thinking. there would be some upside to that.

[imdying]

thing is though it wont be as i get more pleasure mucking about with old ones than i ever did from buying a new oneDude, you can take brand news ones to bits and muck around with them just the same as old ones :D

[98tls]

Dude, you can take brand news ones to bits and muck around with them just the same as old ones :D
:2guns::2guns:Stop right there:no:Dont be telling me such things.

[breakaway]

To all those who say "Flash bike = big hp or debt", that's bullshit. If a university student like myself who is largely unemployed (heh) can afford a 1000cc bike + maintenance costs, you should be able to as well. Maybe you're just terrible at managing your money?

[hospitalfood]

i dont even have an income at present....................
when i have to sell the house to survive i should have enough money to get a third bike

[imdying]

:2guns::2guns:Stop right there:no:Dont be telling me such things.Heh, you're gonna love this bit.... bits from breakers that fit across models are cheaper and easier to get!

[Winston001]

:2guns::2guns:Stop right there:no:Dont be telling me such things.

Thought you already had a Thruxton project on the go....:shifty:

[Oscar]

Did anyone mention the fact that buying/riding bikes is great way to make income evaporate?

[98tls]

Thought you already had a Thruxton project on the go....:shifty: Sitting in a shed but not on the go......cut hours since October has curtailed things somewhat.

[scumdog]

Did anyone mention the fact that buying/riding bikes is great way to make income evaporate?

Chuck hot rods into the mix and $$$$$$$ REALLY start to evaporate.:shutup:

[Drew]

Chuck hot rods into the mix and $$$$$$$ REALLY start to evaporate.:shutup:

Cant comment. Even when I didn't have 4WD's, bikes, and two 10 year old kids, I was broker than a broke thing.

[StoneY]

Well my mate called me a tosser (quietly) when I got the Duke but kept the 1100 too-

I mean- not MY fault he has only one bike- sigh

It aint like I can ride both at same time so having em both says NOTHING about my income- just that I love both my bikes - and wifey prefers the gixxer for 2up

Nice to be able to let visiting out of town mates come out too ya know ;)

[LBD]

Well my mate called me a tosser (quietly) when I got the Duke but kept the 1100 too-

It aint like I can ride both at same time so having em both says NOTHING about my income- just that I love both my bikes - and wifey prefers the gixxer for 2up


He with the most toys...wins! or so they say but hey...sounds like you have a good solution to the age old problem of "1 up sport 2 up comfort" ....k by me.

[avgas]

Fuck the red rep johny's.
Don't say that (smoky might be offended too ;) )

[smoky]

Don't say that (smoky might be offended too ;) )

Offended by what? why?
Who's offended - I missed something?

[Henk]

There will always be people who judge you by what you ride, wear, how you look. Suits me fine, means the small minded idiots tend to take one look at me and walk away and I don't have to go to the effort of offending them before they leave me alone.

[xgnr]

I have a shitter bike and shitter gear apparently...

oh well, at least I have paid for them :laugh:

[scracha]

To all those who say "Flash bike = big hp or debt", that's bullshit. If a university student like myself who is largely unemployed (heh) can afford a 1000cc bike + maintenance costs, you should be able to as well. Maybe you're just terrible at managing your money?

Not everyone has a rich mummy and daddy.

[The Stranger]

Not everyone has a rich mummy and daddy.

A bit of the green eyed monster there eh scracha.

[Creeping Death]

Have just read all 13 pages...

Anyhow,if I was to post after the OP's thread starter,I might have ticked 'Yes'....

But thinking about it now,nah.

I own a TLR and an old ratty TS250ER,a 81 chunk o shit which I brought for $350 warrented and had 4 months reg left!

Well the TLR hasn't been outta the garage for almost a month now,but that TS is a heap of fun!

I earn a decent wage and my TLR was brought with 'Buy Now' on Trademe.

I'm not rich,not at all,but I do admire those who ride "spendy" bikes with all the Arai,Dainese blah blah stuff.

I enjoy riding my old trail bike,it's not fast,it's not flash but it's fun!

That's what biking's about ain't it?

[dave_a]

just turned 23, brought my gixxer last year 2nd hand but brand spanking condition less than a year old with pretty much no kms, Paid straight up cash.

Its all about managing your money, Spending it in the right places and making the right decisions.

Brought 3 bikes in last year a ninja 250, drz400sm all new.


Hell I could easy buy another one now but house comes first

[scracha]

A bit of the green eyed monster there eh scracha.
Not at all. In fact I'm quite proud of the fact I haven't required to bleed anybody to get to where I am.

What does irk me is when I worked two jobs as a student and had other arsehole students telling me how badly I managed my money. They'd conveniently ignore the fact that they get bailed out whenever they were skint, food made for them, clothes & vehicles bought for them, their washing done for them, their vehicles magically had their tanks refilled and they paid a token amount (or no) of rent.

Then when they hit the real world mummy and daddy normally helped them with the deposit on their first house too.

[imdying]

A bit of the green eyed monster there eh scracha.Perhaps...

What does irk me is when I worked two jobs as a student and had other arsehole students telling me how badly I managed my money. They'd conveniently ignore the fact that they get bailed out whenever they were skint, food made for them, clothes & vehicles bought for them, their washing done for them, their vehicles magically had their tanks refilled and they paid a token amount (or no) of rent.

Then when they hit the real world mummy and daddy normally helped them with the deposit on their first house too.Wait! There it is again!

[scracha]

Perhaps...
Wait! There it is again!

You're mistaking my utter contempt for such people as jealously

[popelli]

I have several bikes and have done so for many years

people treat you very differently according to what you are riding

its not just motorcyclists that treat you differently, joe public is just as bad

[Viscount Montgomery]

Yeah there's no shortage of phonies/wankers/posers around these days, specially in places like Auckland and it's like. Always heaps of crawling, slithering ladder-climbers come out into view in any CBD at 12.00pm, it's the snivelly latte set, they actually drive Beemers and Porches as a status symbol. "Look at me, I'm very special" Unpleasant, snooty and hostile usually, you'll see them sitting around yuppie/poser cafe tables on their soft, fat arses with smug, superior attitudes, occasionally uttering the classic phony latte laugh - "yeeess, we know, a-he he he he he... " a-he he he he he " just to prove that they all are indeed elite important people, and far far removed from the common plebs on the footpath... Reminds me of those creeping sycophants on the Trump tv program..

[Eddieb]

Some people just have tiny dicks and feel the need to validate themselves in other way.

I have a good IT job, but I ride a 1982 BMW.

[Str8 Jacket]

I have 2 shit bikes. Does that mean that i'm *really* poor? :confused:

[popelli]

Some people just have tiny dicks and feel the need to validate themselves in other way.

I have a good IT job, but I ride a 1982 BMW.


and a 94 bmw and a vintage duke so you must be really poor then..........

if youre ever desparate for cash I happily take the old duke off your hands

[Drew]

I have 2 shit bikes. Does that mean that i'm *really* poor? :confused:

Short answer, YES!

[Eddieb]

and a 94 bmw and a vintage duke so you must be really poor then..........

if youre ever desparate for cash I happily take the old duke off your hands

The 94 isn't that flash either, and the old duke is definately still a project and owes me less than $1500.

[Winston001]

I have 2 shit bikes. Does that mean that i'm *really* poor? :confused:

Well - YES.

And if you wouldn't mind, please just post in PD from now on....... :devil2:

[carver]

Some people just have tiny dicks and feel the need to validate themselves in other way.

I have a good IT job, but I ride a 1982 BMW.

get a GSXR1000 you poof!

[carver]

Yep I have surprised a few Aprilia and Ducati riders when I pull up beside them and they realise its a Buell (and an OLD one) thats been up their dates.

They ask "what have you done to that Buell?" I reply honestly "nothing, its just that those roads were twisty and perfect for the Buell, if there had been any long straights you would have left me for dead!" hey the old girl has done a few kms now and doesn't have the top end to match the latest out there but she is still a primo ride.

And as far as a NEW Buell is concerned. Mike I DARE you to ride a CR and tell me that anyone is laughing at you.
trust me, they won't be. (PM coming)

Like Sidewinder said back on the first page "you can put anything on tick these days" so age/model/brand of bike has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on a persons income.

A mate of mine has a property, a Harley, an Aprilia, an HSV Commodore, a couple of off road bikes and what does he earn? I wouldn't have a bloody clue cos he never seems to do any work LOL. Actually I think he drives a rubbish truck when he can be bothered...go figure!

the buell CR tested

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=96522

i laughed at how shit it was

[LBD]

I have 2 shit bikes. Does that mean that i'm *really* poor? :confused:

Twice as....

Nah if the bike or bikes is what you want and are satisfyed with....cool.

But ask yourself if you had spare reddies would you have the same bikes?

[carver]

Twice as....

Nah if the bike or bikes is what you want and are satisfyed with....cool.

But ask yourself if you had spare reddies would you have the same bikes?

i have 5 bikes, all mine, all free hold, beat that!!

[NighthawkNZ]

As for the Interweb,would bet that theres a heap of "real fast cunts" on here are not to bad on a keyboard but pretty slow everywhere else,

Sounds like me :shit: except I am not that fast on the keyboard ... I'm not a fast rider either

[kevfromcoro]

well i ridden evertthing from a scooter to a harley.
i dont think it matters what you are riding.
as long as you are ridding...read a thread a while ago were a bloke wouldnt lift his visor in case someone recogonised him...
just ride the bike... dont worry about possers...

[98tls]

Sounds like me :shit: except I am not that fast on the keyboard ... I'm not a fast rider either Not what my neighbours said the other day mate,<_<Bike sounds great.Your Mrs stopped on the way back up our street and said "this is what happens when navigations left to him".:shifty:

[NighthawkNZ]

Not what my neighbours said the other day mate,<_<Bike sounds great.Your Mrs stopped on the way back up our street and said "this is what happens when navigations left to him".:shifty:

:laugh:


its worse when she navigates... i

[LBD]

i have 5 bikes, all mine, all free hold, beat that!!


So we have a bid of 5... and freehold...whose going to raise the bid?

[carver]

So we have a bid of 5... and freehold...whose going to raise the bid?

mine is I

not we

i win

[McJim]

Flash bike = small dick :Pokey:

[The Stranger]

At least I dont have to compensate with the size of my engine and expense of my bike... Thats why I ride a FXR150...


he must have a very small penis then


Yep! Look at the phallic shape of that bike... Pure Compensation...


Don't let it get you down buddy, there is help for you; http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/850161/is_having_a_small_penis_getting_you.html



Nah - I've just a bigger e-penis as well


Some people just have tiny dicks and feel the need to validate themselves in other way.



Flash bike = small dick :Pokey:

Just a thought - Perhaps if you guys were able to focus on your work instead of other guys cocks perhaps you could actually afford a decent bike.

[LBD]

Flash bike = small dick :Pokey:


If I had a flash bike, I could get upset at that....:argue::::Oi:

[Drew]

i have 5 bikes, all mine, all free hold, beat that!!I'm sure you beat it enough already mummies boy.


If I had a flash bike, I could get upset at that....:argue::::Oi:So, you're saying you have a small dick, and a shite bike.

I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE!!!

[gothavealaugh]

I voted "No" purely on the basis that people have many priorities and putting money into an expensive bike may take something away from those other priorities. If I had a family to support or other hobbies, I would potentially have chosen a less expensive bike but I would still own a bike.




To an extent, yes; however, you still have to be able to service that HP, which could require a higher income. Could someone on a student allowance get an RSV4 (about $44k) on HP and afford the repayments?

Well it all depends to me on how you wish to spend your money, I know a guy that wears jandells and shorts most days and tootles round in an old Hilux but he has the choice of his Ason Martin or MV Augusta in the garage when he wants to have fun when you seem him in the 1996 Hilux worth about 5K is he rich or not.

Why would you want to show that you have a high income only means you have more bludgers round you and people try to charge you more nothing else

[LBD]

So, you're saying you have a small dick, and a shite bike. I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE!!!

Hiding behind the 5th amendment me.....

[smokeyging]

I know a lot of people who just want to appear the ‘norm’, they drive around in old cars [or bikes etc] and they are worth more than a bull can shit. theres an old saying, ‘its easier to get $10 out of someone thats broke than it is to get it out of a millionaire‘.

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

Mate...I love my bike and it's almost 20 years old! A classic GSXR1100! People either ride what they are happy with or what they can afford. I earn a fair bit but couldn't justify spending 30K on a bike (my personal pref). I get heaps of fun out of my old gixxer and wouldn't have it any other way.

I say if people have been giving you a hard time on KB then report them and write them off as wankers. Just my 2c.

[98tls]

Mate...I love my bike and it's almost 20 years old! A classic GSXR1100! People either ride what they are happy with or what they can afford. I earn a fair bit but couldn't justify spending 30K on a bike (my personal pref). I get heaps of fun out of my old gixxer and wouldn't have it any other way.

I say if people have been giving you a hard time on KB then report them and write them off as wankers. Just my 2c. Just checked it out,very nice xample it is,on ya.:niceone:

[monkeymcbean]

I think bikes are the sort of sport/hobby that is class-less in my mind. I would never judge someone by the sort of bike they ride as to whether they are rich or not, it just does not work like that.
Though i do find people who have flash bikes in my town, you never see them out riding, i would always throw the question to these people, well, how many kilometers have you done? They daren't try there bullshit on me.

[scumdog]

I think bikes are the sort of sport/hobby that is class-less in my mind. I would never judge someone by the sort of bike they ride as to whether they are rich or not, it just does not work like that.
Though i do find people who have flash bikes in my town, you never see them out riding, i would always throw the question to these people, well, how many kilometers have you done? They daren't try there bullshit on me.

Sure, some may not do THAT many km.

But like me they may have other bikes, a classic car, a hot-rod and a 'bomb'
Spread the miles amongst them and it will still add up to quite a few miles throughout the year.:yes:

[monkeymcbean]

Sure, some may not do THAT many km.

But like me they may have other bikes, a classic car, a hot-rod and a 'bomb'
Spread the miles amongst them and it will still add up to quite a few miles throughout the year.:yes:

True, true, each to there own and thats what makes it interesting, proud owners with flash bikes, owners who love there old bikes, its all about riding and being part of motorbike ownership, as long as the smile is on the dial.

[StoneY]

Mate...I love my bike and it's almost 20 years old! A classic GSXR1100! People either ride what they are happy with or what they can afford. I earn a fair bit but couldn't justify spending 30K on a bike (my personal pref). I get heaps of fun out of my old gixxer and wouldn't have it any other way.

I say if people have been giving you a hard time on KB then report them and write them off as wankers. Just my 2c.


Just checked it out,very nice xample it is,on ya.:niceone:

I am the same- have a 1990 same as KGB- we go out on em together- also have a Ducati that is a little more valuable but far from 30k lol
My bikes or my car show no reflection on my earnings at all - they reflect what I enjoy and will utilise as best I can ;)

[Coyote]

I got my Aprilia on tick. Looks like my parents have bought it for me :rolleyes: