Cadbury drops palm oil from chocolate!

[Beemer]

Just saw this on Stuff - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2758975/Cadbury-stops-using-palm-oil-in-chocolate

It will be interesting to see if they drop vegetable oil or just palm oil.

Cadbury has bowed to consumer pressure and stopped using palm oil in its dairy milk chocolate.

The confectionary giant caused a furore when it was revealed it had substituted cocoa butter with vegetable fat including palm oil.

Palm oil is a contentious ingredient with reports blaming its plantations for huge contributions to global warming and intensive habitat destruction leading to the deaths of orang-utans in Indonesia and Malaysia.

Cadbury New Zealand managing director Matthew Oldham said he was “really sorry” and that the decision was in direct response to consumer feedback, including hundreds of letters and emails.

“At the time, we genuinely believed we were making the right decision, for the right reasons. But we got it wrong,” he said.

“Now we’re putting things right as soon as we possibly can, and hope Kiwis will forgive us.

The change will be made within the next few weeks, he said.

[Mully]

Huzzah.

Bow to consumer pressure, bitches.

[allycatz]

Well amen to that one....it was chocolate but not as we know it!

["Rambo"]

Now lets see if they start making them back to the original sizes they were last year or so. If you have brought a block of choc lately you would find it is smaller and weighs less then it did a year ago. Same goes for Mars and other chocolate makers

[EJK]

And bring back 20% of my bar!

[Laava]

The main reason is because of Whittakers.

[crazyhorse]

YAHOOOOOOO...... I love Cadbury, but it didn't taste right. At least there is one company prepared to put what the consumer wants first.


Go Cadbury :clap: :clap:

[vifferman]

Well, I stopped buying Cadburys in favour of Whittakers, apart from the last visit to the supermarket when Cadburys was REALLY cheap, and Whittakers had no white chocolate (ordinary choc keeps me awake at night). So, I relented and bought some white Cadburys, and didn't like it much. I'll be interested to see if dropping the palm oil fixes it. BTW - cocoa butter IS vegetable oil too, y'know.

[Shaun S]

The main reason is because of Whittakers. Which happens to be a better tasting option in my opinion. :niceone:

[oldrider]

Just saw this on Stuff - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2758975/Cadbury-stops-using-palm-oil-in-chocolate

It will be interesting to see if they drop vegetable oil or just palm oil.

Cadbury has bowed to consumer pressure and stopped using palm oil in its dairy milk chocolate.

The confectionary giant caused a furore when it was revealed it had substituted cocoa butter with vegetable fat including palm oil.

Palm oil is a contentious ingredient with reports blaming its plantations for huge contributions to global warming and intensive habitat destruction leading to the deaths of orang-utans in Indonesia and Malaysia.

Cadbury New Zealand managing director Matthew Oldham said he was “really sorry” and that the decision was in direct response to consumer feedback, including hundreds of letters and emails.

“At the time, we genuinely believed we were making the right decision, for the right reasons. But we got it wrong,” he said.

“Now we’re putting things right as soon as we possibly can, and hope Kiwis will forgive us.

The change will be made within the next few weeks, he said.

Too late Cadbury, the damage is done, you have lost the trust of your consumers! :doh:

[Beemer]

Well, I stopped buying Cadburys in favour of Whittakers, apart from the last visit to the supermarket when Cadburys was REALLY cheap, and Whittakers had no white chocolate (ordinary choc keeps me awake at night). So, I relented and bought some white Cadburys, and didn't like it much. I'll be interested to see if dropping the palm oil fixes it. BTW - cocoa butter IS vegetable oil too, y'know.

Whittakers does have white chocolate now - plain and with macadamia nuts.

I would be keen to know if they will still be substituting vegetable oil for some of the cocoa butter in an effort to keep the price down, or if they will just stop using palm oil as one of the vegetable oils they use. I tried a square last week when someone had a bar of the milk chocolate and macadamia nut and I didn't like it at all. It may have been creamy but it wasn't very chocolately tasting. I would rather pay more and have it taste right!

[Hitcher]

I suspect that it may be too late for Cadbury in New Zealand. They will have lost significant market share to Whittakers, probably forever.

This demonstrates the perils in getting cute with one's consumers.

[rickstv]

They should not be adding anything to it except cocoa butter. Still prefer whitickers anyway.
Rick. :niceone::niceone:

[philnz]

Buy whitickers ...its nz made and owned

[allycatz]

I think Whittickers tv marketing might have hit the target market....

[Mschvs]

Yay, now I can eat Cadbury stuff again ... kinda boycotted it, along with a lot of other products when I found out about that!

[Swoop]

Cocksuckers. Fuck over the customer with the palm oil issue but conveniently forget about the weight reduction of the product.

Stick with Whittaker's!!


I suspected they were desperate with this weekend's grocery shopping. cadbury choc was incredibly cheap. Porirua's finest STILL went into the trolly though.

cadbury can get fucked!

[Pussy]

Bugger Cadbury!

[Naki Rat]

Cadbury finally confirmed that they fucked up. Amazing what consumer pressure in capable of :niceone:

And Cadbury is being flogged off cheap on 1-Day today. Good luck guys, it'll take a long time, if ever, to regain the customers that were lost to Whittakers :bleh:

[Indiana_Jones]

Whittakers for me. Very nice chocolate.

Cadbury have shot themselves in the foot.

-Indy

[crazyhorse]

I suspect that it may be too late for Cadbury in New Zealand. They will have lost significant market share to Whittakers, probably forever.

This demonstrates the perils in getting cute with one's consumers.

I don't know - if you like Cadbury, and they change it back, yeah, I'd buy it again. No different than buying your favourite ice-cream - gotta be Tip Top!

[Beemer]

Yes, but are they going to go back to just cocoa butter or are they still going to have some vegetable oil content? If they are, I won't EVER be buying Cadbury chocolate again as I don't like the taste of the new stuff.

I don't eat a huge amount of chocolate anyway, so money isn't a concern so much, it's taste. Whittakers is great and I'll keep buying it because of that.

[merv]

Nah I'll stick with Whittakers though as was said Cadbury were finally down to 2 for $6 at our New World but that's what they used to be on special before the 20% went missing.

We'll wait for the next Whittakers special before we buy more chocolate.

[CookMySock]

Too late Cadbury, the damage is done, you have lost the trust of your consumers! :doh:People would have to be pretty brutal to never trust someone again, because of palm oil.

Steve

[merv]

People would have to be pretty brutal to never trust someone again, because of palm oil.

Steve

It was more than that though, it was also the reduced size of block, the change of taste and the sourcing of it from Australia instead of Dunedin so basically a whole lot of things that just rankled with too many Kiwis. I for one used to think of "good New Zealand Cadbury chocolate", well it is no longer a New Zealand product, whereas Whittakers still is.

[gtr boy]

whittakers
cadburys not getting my business,smaller bars and tastes like shit

[YellowDog]

I suspect that it may be too late for Cadbury in New Zealand. They will have lost significant market share to Whittakers, probably forever.

This demonstrates the perils in getting cute with one's consumers.
Too right and too late.

The Cadbury's Fruit & Nut versus Whitakers - Whitakers superior Cocoa taste doesn't do it for me.

But the Whitakers Creamy Milk version wins hands down.

IMO - Cadburys NZ won't recover from this (great advert though).

[ckai]

Holy shit, people are pretty hard nuts about their choccy :eek5:

I had some Cadbury last night. Didn't notice the difference (apart from size). In saying that I don't have it all the time. Looked at the ingredients and it didn't say anything about palm oil. Only cocoa butter. Did it actually state it on the back?

I still can't get over how hard core people are :D I prefer NZ recipe chocolate to a lot of other countries because it's creamier. It does kinda suck that it's made in Oz but so much shit is made overseas that you would think wouldn't.

I suppose you die hards are the reason companies keep manufacturing here as long as they can. Good on ya's!!
:first:

ps. must do a comparison with Whittakers...just to test...man it's gonna suck ;)

[Max Preload]

Nah I'll stick with Whittakers though as was said Cadbury were finally down to 2 for $6 at our New World but that's what they used to be on special before the 20% went missing.

I saw the 20% smaller 'king size' Cadbury bars for $1.99 at Pak'n'Slave last week.

[Naki Rat]

Holy shit, people are pretty hard nuts about their choccy :eek5:



You got it :niceone: Nil tolerance on chocolate and coffee!

[OnCam]

pack n save was $2 for a "king size" in the cardboard box on sunday..

good move by Cadbury i think, black forest FTW

[Beemer]

Holy shit, people are pretty hard nuts about their choccy :eek5:

I had some Cadbury last night. Didn't notice the difference (apart from size). In saying that I don't have it all the time. Looked at the ingredients and it didn't say anything about palm oil. Only cocoa butter. Did it actually state it on the back?

ps. must do a comparison with Whittakers...just to test...man it's gonna suck ;)

Highly likely you were lucky enough to have some of the old stock - it is still around by the sound of it. It should have 'vegetable oil' as well as cocoa butter if it's the new stuff - but it doesn't have to specify palm oil.

I didn't like the taste, the fact it HAD vege oil in it to start with, that people in NZ lost their jobs, that the blocks were smaller, etc - not to mention Cadbury's arrogance over the changes.

[cc rider]

am eating my way through a block of cadburys hazelnut, tastes ok, has veg fat, tastes ok, 4700kj per 200g block, don't care, tastes ok - but being part aussie, I guess that means I don't know any better :whocares:

:rofl:

[Pussy]

- but being part aussie

Which part?

[cs363]

Which part?

I think you know.... :lol:

[mynameis]

Miss Piggy must be happy now that the monkeys will have their home to live in :lol:

[cc rider]

Which part?

....the yummy edible parts, of course :bleh:

[cs363]

....the yummy edible parts, of course :bleh:

Umm...yeah, that's what I meant..... :whistle:

[Swoop]

The cadbury representative quite happily proved, on tonight's news, the bizarre / perverted that cadbury lives in.

Fuck off to ozzie you bunch of faggots.

[Jonno.]

The damage has been done :laugh:

[merv]

I saw the 20% smaller 'king size' Cadbury bars for $1.99 at Pak'n'Slave last week.

Now that is cheap, trying to buy back market share huh!

[merv]

am eating my way through a block of cadburys hazelnut, tastes ok, has veg fat, tastes ok, 4700kj per 200g block, don't care, tastes ok - but being part aussie, I guess that means I don't know any better :whocares:

:rofl:

... and its a local brew for you huh! You don't need to worry about Dunedin.

[MikeL]

Even the old Cadbury's is not very good chocolate. The cocoa content is too low and there is too much sugar. Whittaker's is definitely better, and Nestles as well. But once you get hooked on European chocolate you won't like most of the stuff sold here. Even average Swiss, French and Belgian chocolate is vastly superior. Cadbury's is to European chocolate what Marque Vue is to champagne. We need to educate our palates...

[merv]

Hey MikeL where were you between February and August, on a secret mission for the Gubmint or something.

Yeah you're right about the chocolate, if its foreign Aussie stuff why buy it, you may as well buy European. As I and others said earlier it used to be Cadburys was cool because it was nice creamy NZ choclate.

[crazyhorse]

I heard from an old Cadbury Rep, that the reason the bar's changed in size was because the cost of Cocoa had gone up dramatically, so they tried to keep the price the same, but decreased the quantity


............don't shoot the messenger :2guns::2guns::2guns::2guns:

[vindy500]

there dropping palm oil, but are they gonna keep making it in australia?

[Naki Rat]

I heard from an old Cadbury Rep, that the reason the bar's changed in size was because the cost of Cocoa had gone up dramatically, so they tried to keep the price the same, but decreased the quantity


............don't shoot the messenger :2guns::2guns::2guns::2guns:

Unless of course the messenger has been a lying tosser... :2guns::2guns::2guns::2guns:
Referring to Cadbury's marketers, not you dude

[Sable]

I didn't know anything about the palm oil at first. Bought a block of Cadbury's in their new packaging for a laugh and it tasted fucking disgusting. It was all powdery and tasteless, made me feel nauseous. I'm staying with Whittakers. Better priced even compared to the cadbury when both are on special ($3.60 vs. 2 for $6).

[peasea]

I still say Rush Munro's ice cream is best.

Oh hang on, this is a chockie thread.....

I still say Rush Munro's ice cream is best.

[merv]

there dropping palm oil, but are they gonna keep making it in australia?

I'd say yep, so I'd sooner buy chocolate made in Porirua.

[cc rider]

... and its a local brew for you huh! You don't need to worry about Dunedin.
Don't know about local - has always said 'local & imported ingredients' on packet.

merv, I always worry about some greedy, bloody money making corporation puting profit before people (families).
We have Pacific Brands, here, shafting everyone like Cadbury keeps doing, but nothing like what Dunedin is going through with industry job loss.


there dropping palm oil, but are they gonna keep making it in australia?

I'd say yep, so I'd sooner buy chocolate made in Porirua.
...the ingredients still say 'veg oil & cocoa butter', so will be interesting as to when it's going to change. As for making it here still, who knows, they'll probably drop jobs here, too. They have before.

I guess decent chocolate like whittakers & Thortons is lost on me, I only eat choc for the sugar fix.

[Insanity_rules]

I was begining to think palm oil was a euphamisim until this came out in the paper! Sort of thinking who'd want to eat chocolate with THAT in it???? But I have a one track mind, usually dirt track.