Bowdlerisation shits me to tears

[Hitcher]

Something else that is really starting to irritate me in terms of online written communication is Bowdlerisation.

It's a naff American affectation that is extremely irritating.

If people don't want to use words like shit, prick, arse, fuck, cunt, etc, then don't. Replacing the vowels in "offensive" words with * or other punctuation marks is a ludicrously stupid nonsense, because there is an expectation that people have to know the word that has been bowdlerised in order not to be shocked by its censoring.

Simple choices people: use cuss words or don't use cuss words. Please don't fuck with them. They're no less shocking with bits twinked out, but are considerably more stupid.

[The Pastor]

go p1ss off then.

[Ixion]

It's not for the benefit of readers. It's to bypass stupid censorship programs that block words deemed offensive by Mrs Grundy. And in some cases, block the entire posting , if too many such naughty words be found.

Remember when Mr Spankme turned on the said feature in vBulletin. What fun we had poking the borax at it.

[Skunk]

Does ferk instead of fuck count as Bowdlerisation?

Can't be fucked with Google...

[yungatart]

Another task for BDOTGNZA?
Sheesh, Hitcher...we have enough to do already...

[mynameis]

Harden the f**k up and grow some f****n balls. It's only the f****n internet :lol:

[Hitcher]

Remember when Mr Spankme turned on the said feature in vBulletin. What fun we had poking the borax at it.

It all comes flooding back. Oh how we larfed!

[kave]

Something else that is really starting to irritate me in terms of online written communication is Bowdlerisation.

It's a naff American affectation that is extremely irritating.

If people don't want to use words like shit, prick, arse, fuck, cunt, etc, then don't. Replacing the vowels in "offensive" words with * or other punctuation marks is a ludicrously stupid nonsense, because there is an expectation that people have to know the word that has been bowdlerised in order not to be shocked by its censoring.

Simple choices people: use cuss words or don't use cuss words. Please don't fuck with them. They're no less shocking with bits twinked out, but are considerably more stupid.
I am pretty sure that what you are referring to is not Bowdlerisation as the intended original meaning remains intact. If the entire word is replaced by symbols such as "you are a dirty $%^#$^%" then the name for the string of typographical symbols used to represent an undefined profanity is "grawlix", but once you have enough letters to ensure that a specific profanity is understood (such as f*#k you) then I really have no idea if there is a term to describe this.

[Badjelly]

It's a naff American affectation that is extremely irritating.

A naff American affectation? You are ignoring the long history of Bowdlerisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowdlerisation) in Europe.
Thomas Bowdler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bowdler) himself was British. The Americans do show a tendency towards excessive delicacy, it is true, but they are neither the originators nor the sole modern practitioners of expurgation.

[Big Dave]

*^%# you.

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[Mully]

Don't you mean it sh*ts you to tears, Hitcher??

[ManDownUnder]

I hear you but it also gets around a lot of mail scanning SW that picks up on rude words and ranks emails (or gives points to them I think) and anything above a certain score leads to a slap on the hand for outgoing email, and email pergatory for incoming ones.

It's because the email Police know we can't be trusted with all the words in the dictionary - only those that they deem fit.

[CookMySock]

I don't think it is about the intended audience or their feelings, nor do I think it is about bypassing some profanity filter.

I think it is basically about the writers' lack of bravery. I see it quite a bit, particularly with some of the more conservative biker women on this site - those who would never swear openly as they stand with their legs apart and swig from their pint bottle of piss, but they do indulge just slightly on KB - maybe just quietly at home in the evening with their glass of wine and a quick check over their shoulder to see who noticed...

I think it's quite grand - a society of polite people slipping quietly in and then out again, of a forbidden territory that is of the swearing, free, drinking, and noisy biker.

I don't think they are every going to openly swear, drink, fuck, ride, and live completely free like a real biker did in the 60s,70s and 80s, but hey they dip their toe in and smile havin' walked a little on the wild side. ;)

Steve

[SARGE]

Something else that is really starting to irritate me in terms of online written communication is Bowdlerisation.

It's a naff American affectation that is extremely irritating.


FUCK ME HITCH .. .. is every slaughtering of the Engrish language the Yank's fault??...

you havnt been to fucking Wales/fucking Scotland/ fucking Australia/fucking Canada lately have you?

[Okey Dokey]

A naff American affectation? You are ignoring the long history of Bowdlerisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowdlerisation) in Europe.
Thomas Bowdler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bowdler) himself was British. The Americans do show a tendency towards excessive delicacy, it is true, but they are neither the originators nor the sole modern practitioners of expurgation.

Good on ya! Blaming the Yanks for every supposed language crime is tiresome and not very original.

EDIT: Sarge just beat me to that...

[slofox]

Ya shouldn't fuckin' swear online anyway, it's fuckin' gross....

Having said that, I have to watch which forum I am on...if I ever get into the SV forum. I have been known to forget that it is a Yank site and they don't approve of colourful language....with fairly interesting results....albeit predictable.

[Mom]

I am with Hitcher on this, no matter what fancy name he uses for it. If you want to cuss, now there is a word I heard alot in my youth ( I once got a full bar of soap rammed in and out of my mouth for telling my brother to "shut up" with the accompanying dont you use cuss words tirade), cuss!

Dont replace letters with symbols, pathetic. I will from time to time moderate my language by using words like "friggen" but am just at home with using fucking if I feel like it.

I wish I had been here for the forum choice you more mature members are talking about, that would have been very good fun :yes:

[Big Dave]

>>using fucking if I feel like it.<<

Do tell.

[Pussy]

I've got a mild case of Tourettes that sometimes shows up in my posting....

[Mom]

Loving that tag!

[Mom]

>>using fucking if I feel like it.<<

Do tell.

Well now, I will have to pass on that for now, this is a family show afterall BD, and you have quoted out of context too, you naughty thang you :laugh:

[Hitcher]

Americans haven't got it all wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmZfYyctiuo&feature=related


George Carlin. RIP.

[gijoe1313]

Well I'll be hornswoggled ... tie me to a raft and feed me rotten kippers till the maggots boil out of my grotty intestines!

I'll cuss when I ferk'n feel like it and no frikk'n merk'n can stop me from doing it as deems fit! One does need to stand their ground to strike a dolorous blow to the unmitigated bastiches that was propelled from the dripping nether regions of their agglomeration of misfitted DNA!

Time to twenty-one skiddido!

[slofox]

I've got a mild case of Tourettes that sometimes shows up in my posting....

I had a really full blown case of Tourette's when I was young...less spectacular now but still lurks underneath...you never quite lose those internal rhythms...

[Swoop]

A little bit like pr0n, perhaps.

[Genestho]

I'm sorry, I don't like using swear words in text, it looks gross. I'm not so precious as to not cope with others swearing in text, don't mind using the word arse though. But that's my personal limit! :bleh:

[cc rider]

FUCK ME HITCH .. .. is every slaughtering of the Engrish language the Yank's fault??...

you havnt been to fucking Wales/fucking Scotland/ fucking Australia/fucking Canada lately have you?
I'll be :buggerd: That's my lineage - I had no chance, did I. :shutup:


Far fuckin-out, it sounds the same with any accent, don't it. :niceone:

[Brian d marge]

Twit

Its dont out of respect from others , this here internet, is a large and powerful force

while 99 % are ok with the odd expletive. There maybe one or two who aren't

Covers all basis

Stephen a proud Bowdlerator !

[martybabe]

Guilty I'm afraid. Well not so much with the letters substituted by symbols but Farkin, Fuggin,Freekin, Coont, etc, are used by me in an attempt to convey an impression that I am chatting to the reader and not writing for the reader in the form of a text book or formal letter.

As a reserved English Gentleman, I reserve the right to alter the harshness of expletives for the benefit of those that don't wish to see or read them in every post and as the afore mentioned, Reserved English gentleman,This is also how I actually speak in polite company, when wishing to impart that my emotional level, in regards to a certain topical subject, is running a tad higher than would be the case with a simple conversational contribution.

Whilst no stranger to them,the full and correct version of these words are only used by me as an emphasis to a point I wish to make, to, or about, something or someone. e.g. Get off my fucking barstool you cunt or I will twat your nose so far back in your skull you'll be able to smell what you had for dinner. Or will you just Fuck off you utter utter cunt fest.

Further more, whilst I endeavour to use the best English Grammar, spelling and punctuation that my education and memory will allow, I will invent, alter or amend words to suit, again, in an effort to convey that there is a person behind my keyboard and not an English graduate writing a thesis on how best to display one's superior education and or grasp of the English Language on a public forum, for the sole purpose of belittling other users.

We are not diametrically opposed in the level of frustration we endure when confronted with a badly written and poorly punctuated post but, unlike you, I have always favoured content over form and some hugely educational and or amusing musings could be missed, were I to stand in self righteous, pompous, judgement at the liberties taken with the English language, by design or by ignorance.

Yours faithfully, Martybabe O'sutton P.H.D. B.A. M.D. Speaker of the common man's English And utter freekin, bottom dwelling, Arsehole. x :laugh:

[Pussy]

Guilty I'm afraid.

You lost me after this bit, Mart!

[martybabe]

You lost me after this bit, Mart!

You didn't miss much me old mate :D I just get a bit cranky, what with the world wide shortage of F'*ckin Banana cake

[Babelfish]

I think the bowlderisation presents an opportunity to allow cussing crescendos. I can start with mild fecks, talking about tw@s that are being shites and this still allows me to savour the pure and imeasurably more tactile words for the right moments, such as when some shit bastard wanker fucks (hold that for the rant on cluster cussing) me off...or when I want to fuck them...or by far the god of words...when I want to personify (or not) cunts. :confused:

[Pixie]

Something else that is really starting to irritate me in terms of online written communication is Bowdlerisation.

It's a naff American affectation that is extremely irritating.

If people don't want to use words like shit, prick, arse, fuck, cunt, etc, then don't. Replacing the vowels in "offensive" words with * or other punctuation marks is a ludicrously stupid nonsense, because there is an expectation that people have to know the word that has been bowdlerised in order not to be shocked by its censoring.

Simple choices people: use cuss words or don't use cuss words. Please don't fuck with them. They're no less shocking with bits twinked out, but are considerably more stupid.

If you replace selected letters with * then it isn't a sin

[Pixie]

( I once got a full bar of soap rammed in and out of my mouth for telling my brother to "shut up" with the accompanying dont you use cuss words tirade), cuss!



Er,are you sure it was a bar of soap?


Hail to the bus driver,
Bus driver!
Bus driver!
Hail to the bus driver,
Bus driver man.

He yells and he cusses,
and smells up the busses,
Hail to the bus driver,
Bus driver man.

[Hitcher]

If you replace selected letters with * then it isn't a sin

Well it should be.

[Winston001]

I'm sorry, I don't like using swear words in text, it looks gross. I'm not so precious as to not cope with others swearing in text, don't mind using the word arse though. But that's my personal limit! :bleh:

Me too.


Well I'll be hornswoggled ... tie me to a raft and feed me rotten kippers till the maggots boil out of my grotty intestines!

I'll cuss when I ferk'n feel like it and no frikk'n merk'n can stop me from doing it as deems fit! One does need to stand their ground to strike a dolorous blow to the unmitigated bastiches that was propelled from the dripping nether regions of their agglomeration of misfitted DNA!

Time to twenty-one skiddido!

Nice example of breadth of language. :2thumbsup: Overuse of profanity is lazy and loses impact when there are thousands of other descriptive words available.


Guilty I'm afraid. Well not so much with the letters substituted by symbols but Farkin, Fuggin, Freekin, Coont, etc, are used by me in an attempt to convey an impression that I am chatting to the reader.......



Lovely post Marty and I only reduced it for the sake of space. You echo my sentiments exactly.

I don't swear online but there are rare occasions when it might happen to make a strong point. I don't swear in front of my family or other people. Indeed I find the constant use of "shit" in polite conversation to be a constant surprise. It is a scatological word which should be used sparingly. Ah well......

However this all rather gives a false impression because swearing fruitily in the company of mates and at rallies etc seems to come naturally and without a blush. :D

[idb]

I'm with you Winston.
I curse (what the hell is cuss, some sort of euphemism for those too frightened to use the real word?) quite freely in general conversation in social situations but for some reason it seems less appropriate and simply lazy in text.

Nevertheless I have been known to use a #, sometimes a $ and even, if I'm being totally honest, the occasional %.

[Badjelly]

Nevertheless I have been known to use a #, sometimes a $ and even, if I'm being totally honest, the occasional %.

You #$% b*st*rd!

[Winston001]

You #$% b*st*rd!

10+ characters :D

[MisterD]

bottom dwelling, Arsehole. x :laugh:

It is where most of them dwell, after all...:blink:

[007XX]

I don't swear online but there are rare occasions when it might happen to make a strong point. I don't swear in front of my family or other people. Indeed I find the constant use of "shit" in polite conversation to be a constant surprise. It is a scatological word which should be used sparingly. Ah well......

However this all rather gives a false impression because swearing fruitily in the company of mates and at rallies etc seems to come naturally and without a blush. :D

+1...

I've never seen anything wrong with the use of fucking as long as there always is a happy ending :D

I have only ever used the bowdlerisation to bypass email restrictions.