15 years unemployed and 10 kids - $1200/week...

[Max Preload]

This shit really gets my goat! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10591226)

[Rodney007]

must be hard to handle 10 litttle hawaiian's running around the house.

[yungatart]

I don't suppose there is much else to do besides procreation when you are poor and unemployed.....

[Matt Bleck]

10 kids aye, karma has really sorted him out......

[Indiana_Jones]

"They are worked up, sir, because they are so poor that they are forced to have children as a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas."

-Indy

[Max Preload]

I don't suppose there is much else to do besides procreation when you are poor and unemployed.....

Except perhaps getting a job...

[EJK]

That's tax payer's money so... We pay them to breed?

[Pussy]

That's tax payer's money so... We pay them to breed?

That's about the size of it!

[steve_t]

I loved how on the Breakfast show this morning, someone wrote in and said "These people should be sterilized"
But what about those poor 10 kids!!

[kave]

I got made redundant from my job four months ago. Because my wife works full time we were not eligible for a benefit even though her salary wouldn't cover our mortgage payments. I now have had to take a job working nightshift, fifty hours a week (and up until now I felt lucky to have even found a job in the current environment). Apparently if I encourage my wife to start popping out babies I can quit my job, she can quit hers and we can earn more than we currently get with two fulltime salaries combined.

Cathodicism here we come.

[Mom]

That's about the size of it!

I am not so sure I like the way Paula Bennet is going about letting us know that there are people living on the gravy train here at the expense of the taxpayer, but good on her for doing it all the same.

I had a tenant, young girl, single Mother one child, on the DPB. She got behind in her rent (as you do) and I started getting really twitchy (as you do). I was in the process of terminating her tenancy when she came to see me and we arranged for her arrears to e paid by WINZ so she did not get kicked out. Alll good for my owner, they got paid, and I had this girl on a very short rope.

Anyway, a few months go by and she misses rent again, I ring her, no reply, no response to messages, so I go and visit. Knock on the door and it is opened by a bloke, who had his pants down around his knees ( you know that really cool way of wearing them) I ask to speak to my tenant. He calls her out from the back of the house and she comes to the door full of promises about making the payment up. Longer story short, I got another pay out from WINZ and then this chick did a runner.

Small town sees me find her within hours and I pay another visit to her new abode. Same drop kick answers the door, she slinks up and hello...hapu! Very it seems, they needed an extra bedroom for the new baby. Talking to her she said she was too scared to go and tell Winz she was pregnant.

It turns out that she had been living with this wanker all along, was on the DPB, he was on the dole :yes: Both babies were his, they lived as a couple. Both draining money from the system with impunity it seemed.

This is only one small instance of what I witnessed, and I live in a "nice" part of the world.

Bring on food stamps, and rent chits, and power chits. We get so ripped off it is not funny. People that sit home all day have to find something to do to amuse themselves. Trouble is they can not be bothered to avail themselves of the free contraceptives that are available.

Bloody Hell I have exploded here :killingme

[crazyhorse]

I agree - food chits etc would be a huge help to where our money goes. They used to do it when Deka was around - provide clothing chits.

Just take a look at the Kahui Twins debacle - 12 people under one roof, and 11 of them on benefits - why is this still happening!!!!
:nono:
Us honest people should have a say in how the government runs these sort of things

[Pussy]

I have got no problem with anyone receiving a hand up.
But there seems to be quite a few looking for a hand out

[enigma51]

This shit really gets my goat! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10591226)

dont be hating

[SixPackBack]

dont be hating

Bro' if you had a vagina you'd be shedding rug rats like pea's

[Owl]

It turns out that she had been living with this wanker all along, was on the DPB, he was on the dole :yes: Both babies were his, they lived as a couple. Both draining money from the system with impunity it seemed.

You didn't dob them in then?:whistle:

[Mom]

You didn't dob them in then?:whistle:

Well now see, it goes a bit like this...

I live in a small town, with lots of small towns scattered around me. I am reasonably well known hereabouts. I was brave enough to have my phone number listed in the phone book, many aren't. I had/have children living here, this place is my home, I would do nothing to invite shit into my home life.

In my experience you gain nothing but trouble for yourself by dobbing people in, infact you must be seen to not be doing that. Stangely enough, the authorities always seem to find out about this sort of thing, heaven only knows how, they must have their ears firmly to the ground in some places :msn-wink:

[Owl]

Well now see, it goes a bit like this...

I live in a small town, with lots of small towns scattered around me. I am reasonably well known hereabouts. I was brave enough to have my phone number listed in the phone book, many aren't. I had/have children living here, this place is my home, I would do nothing to invite shit into my home life.

In my experience you gain nothing but trouble for yourself by dobbing people in, infact you must be seen to not be doing that. Stangely enough, the authorities always seem to find out about this sort of thing, heaven only knows how, they must have their ears firmly to the ground in some places :msn-wink:

Understood!:yes:

[Chrislost]

That's tax payer's money so... We pay them to breed?

Indeed!
This is NZ man!

[p.dath]

I wonder if we need a maximum benefit payout. Maybe something like double the average wage. Just to catch the runaway benefit abusers.

[SMOKEU]

I know a slut in her early 40s who has 5 kids and no job. She gets around $800 each week from the government. Her kids are running around with no shoes and clothes that are almost reduced to rags. She does nothing all day except suck dick, watch cable TV and go on the net with her super fast broadband. The house is a pig sty, with mud and food all over the floors, walls and windows. The 2 year old kid runs around outside in the mud eating cheap cup noodles.
Yet the mother in question has enough money to buy several 'pay per view' movies each day, drink expensive alcohol and smoke cigarettes all day long. She is physically capable of working while the kids are at school, yet she makes fun of me because I have to work full time on the minimum wage. Why the fuck do we let this shit happen? Put the fucking dick down, get off your fat lazy ass and get a fucking job like the rest of us, and take proper fucking care of your kids, bitch.

[SixPackBack]

I know a slut in her early 40s who has 5 kids and no job. She gets around $800 each week from the government. Her kids are running around with no shoes and clothes that are almost reduced to rags. She does nothing all day except suck dick, watch cable TV and go on the net with her super fast broadband. The house is a pig sty, with mud and food all over the floors, walls and windows. The 2 year old kid runs around outside in the mud eating cheap cup noodles.
Yet the mother in question has enough money to buy several 'pay per view' movies each day, drink expensive alcohol and smoke cigarettes all day long. She is physically capable of working while the kids are at school, yet she makes fun of me because I have to work full time on the minimum wage. Why the fuck do we let this shit happen? Put the fucking dick down, get off your fat lazy ass and get a fucking job like the rest of us, and take proper fucking care of your kids, bitch.

Got her phone number bro'?:mobile:

[SMOKEU]

Got her phone number bro'?:mobile:

If you knew what she looks like you wouldn't want her number, unless you have a fetish for beached whales.

[SixPackBack]

If you knew what she looks like you wouldn't want her number, unless you have a fetish for beached whales.

Is that a 'yes'?:niceone:

[Chrislost]

I wonder if we need a maximum benefit payout. Maybe something like double the average wage. Just to catch the runaway benefit abusers.

fuck off!
IF YOU DO NO WORK, AT ALL, EXEPT LYING ON YOUR BACK ONCE EVERY FEW YEARS WHEN YOU FIND A GUY DRUNK ENOUGH... YOU SHOULD GET LESS PAY THAN SOMONE WHO WORKS 40 FUCKING HOURS A WEEK AND GETS AVERAGE WAGE

[scumdog]

Except perhaps getting a job...

Like his kids are going to, right? right?....:doh:

[Macontour]

It pisses me off too!! I have worked my butt off for nearly 30 years, much of the time I have had second jobs as well. I have paid off my own house, done some travelling, put a little money in the bank but all because of hard work and sacrifice.

The most money I have earned in a year is probably $45k or thereabouts and that is through hard work on two jobs. All I have ever received from the Govt. is (admittedly without question) physio paid for by ACC after a back injury.

My folks worked their butts off for more than 40 years raising, feeding, clothing 3 kids and making sure we went to school etc and when my Mum died at 83 years old(bless her) my Dad wasn't eligible for assistance with the funeral costs!! We didn't need it but someone told us assistance was available. Not for us who graft hard and do the "right thing" but if my folks were drop kicks who drank and smoked and gambled all their money away, their would have been money for that.

The big question I have(and I do not even want to start a race war cos my Missus is Maori) is with the hundreds of millions of dollars of treaty settlement money, why do we still have(predominately) Maori kids going to school hungry, barefoot, without raincoats and living in substandard accomodation?

With all that money given to the tribes, why do we have to have a Telethon so the poor friggin kids can have something to eat for breakfast or lunch and why do the schools have to provide it?

[scumdog]

I know a slut in her early 40s who has 5 kids and no job. She gets around $800 each week from the government. Her kids are running around with no shoes and clothes that are almost reduced to rags. She does nothing all day except suck dick, watch cable TV and go on the net with her super fast broadband. The house is a pig sty, with mud and food all over the floors, walls and windows. The 2 year old kid runs around outside in the mud eating cheap cup noodles.
Yet the mother in question has enough money to buy several 'pay per view' movies each day, drink expensive alcohol and smoke cigarettes all day long. She is physically capable of working while the kids are at school, yet she makes fun of me because I have to work full time on the minimum wage. Why the fuck do we let this shit happen? Put the fucking dick down, get off your fat lazy ass and get a fucking job like the rest of us, and take proper fucking care of your kids, bitch.

Hey, you're describing a big swathe of my 'client-base'!!:laugh:

[ready4whatever]

The golden rule for NZ is the harder you work the less you earn

[scumdog]

I loved how on the Breakfast show this morning, someone wrote in and said "These people should be sterilized"
But what about those poor 10 kids!!

Oh, probably grow up to have 10 kids each too.

And no job.

[Max Preload]

Like his kids are going to, right? right?....:doh:

Ummmm yeah. Shift work with the Tooth Fairy.

[wickle]

fuck off!
IF YOU DO NO WORK, AT ALL, EXEPT LYING ON YOUR BACK ONCE EVERY FEW YEARS WHEN YOU FIND A GUY DRUNK ENOUGH... YOU SHOULD GET LESS PAY THAN SOMONE WHO WORKS 40 FUCKING HOURS A WEEK AND GETS AVERAGE WAGE
unemployment centres, no play stations , no tv, no cellphone coveage( can be blocked) if you dont attend ,NO DOLE< NO SOLO BENEFIT, yes! a police state but only way to fix

[Wiki Drifter]

If you knew what she looks like you wouldn't want her number, unless you have a fetish for beached whales.


Is that a 'yes'?:niceone:

+1 selfless acts like ↑ makes KB great. Good on ya bro

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[Mom]

I wonder if we need a maximum benefit payout. Maybe something like double the average wage. Just to catch the runaway benefit abusers.

No see, I would like to think if some deep, dark shit happened to me I could in fact ask for and receive help from the government.

I have posted about this before, I have had experience of asking. I turned it away as an option as I was not prepared to go there for the pathetic amount of money on offer. I obviously dont know how to play the game eh.

I am an odd sort of woman, I can cook, heaven help me I can sew and knit, I grow vegetables. I can turn the most crap meat into yummmmmm stuff. I have those skills. I learned them by experimenting and many disasters along the way.


Dont pay people money, dont friggen cap what they get. Pay out welfare in food, and electricity, and education. Dont give money that can be spent on any other thing but, food for your babies and rent to keep a roof over your head. Take it back to basics, but make it fair for all :yes:

[geoffm]

How about a time limit - dole say 2 years then zippo for a decent period of time. Can't find a job in 2 years - sod off then I don't care. Go and pick fruit, and yes you might have to move town to do it.
DPB should be gone - you breed em, you feed em. we had to pay for childcare while working, so harden up. In any case, no DPB once the kids are at school.

I know of one lady who might have worked 6 months in her life - between the bene and latching onto men (suckers) she has led a far better lifestyle in the country than we could afford.

Everytime we needed a bit of help through circumstances, there was never anything for us.
Lost my job - no you have to live on your partners part time minimum wage waitressing job. Ditto when she moved to Auckland and couldn't get a job. Should have said we were just good friends...
When I was in Christchurch, and the family was up here for 2 years, the system couldn't cope with the fact we were still married and together, but apart by circumstances. If we had lied and said we had separated, we could have got a pile of $$$. Dishonest, but when i see how much tax I pay, I wish we had....
Honesty is penalised in NZ. Lies pay.
Geoff

[Max Preload]

No see, I would like to think if some deep, dark shit happened to me I could in fact ask for and receive help from the government.

Good fuck'n luck with that. :rofl: Your skin is the wrong colour, for a start...

[Chrislost]

No see, I would like to think if some deep, dark shit happened to me I could in fact ask for and receive help from the government.

Dont pay people money, dont friggen cap what they get. Pay out welfare in food, and electricity, and education. Dont give money that can be spent on any other thing but, food for your babies and rent to keep a roof over your head. Take it back to basics, but make it fair for all :yes:
HELL YEAH!
They just announced that there is to be less acc for people who fuck themselves up, for example crashing a bike.
As of novemberish they are going to cut back physio payments.
IF THEY WERE SEROIUS ABOUT SAVING MONEY THEY SHOULD STOP ALL THE USELESS THIGNS THAT THEY MAKE YOU DO, FUCK I MUST HAVE WASTED $20K ON GOING TO THIS MEETING/THAT MEETING/THE OTHER ADVISOR, WHEN ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS UNBREAK MY ARM AND GET BACK TO WORK! THEY SHOULD ALSO CUT BACK ON SICKNESS BENIFITS FOR PEOPLE WHO TOOK SO MUCH SHIT IN THE 70s/80s THAT THEY CANT WORK ANYMORE. THEY SHOULD BE CHUCKED INTO CONTAINORS UNTILL THEY FIGURE OUT THEY CAN ACTUALLY WORK...
SAME GOES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BLUDGING FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, FUCKEN GET A FUCKING JOB, SAME GOES FOR CUNTS LIKE SKIDMARK,
PEOPLE THAT COULD GET A JOB IF THEY REALLLY WANTED, BUT THE BENIFIT IS SO COMFY THAT THEY JUST DONT BOTHER

[peasea]

HELL YEAH!
They just announced that there is to be less acc for people who fuck themselves up, for example crashing a bike.


Or playing that dumb-arse game with the funny-shaped ball, what's it called? Thugby?

[Chrislost]

Or playing that dumb-arse game with the funny-shaped ball, what's it called? Thugby?

I think a lot of "active" people just got poorer!

[DIN PELENDA]

Except perhaps getting a job...

I have 5 kids, me and my wife newer gone on benefit so it piss me of that I had to work 3 jobs to feed my and his kids.

[Insanity_rules]

I can't say I've ever had it easy myself but I can proudly say I've never been unemployed since I started my working life with after school jobs. I've had to accept some shitty jobs to stay employed. It really makes me mad what people can get in handouts. Don't get me wrong, help to those who need it but its the ones that blatantly take the piss really get my goat.

I battled my way up to being a small business owner because I could only ever look at myself with any form of pride when I can provide for my family. 2 cents done!

[StoneY]

Well I did once find myself on the skids- work run out- nowhere to turn, but I went to Polytech so the govt paid me a 'student allowance' rather than any dpb's doles or other such- topped off with a very healthy accom suppliment-

I paid back the 9 grand student loan-

About 250 bucks a week for my family of 5 during the 9 months of study was non re-payble family support fees etc
Wife went back to pt time work and now is management at the firm she was with- so she gained a career from our change of circumstances-
I work in IT getting a fair$- no more no less and lifes good

Yes- I got some help- we all as Kiwi's are entitled- but man- I was no bludger -like these examples we see here

In know your all fair people- I feel your pain at the welfare states cost to us all
Just do remember- not ALL them peoples at the winz office are as we may perceive ;)

[enigma51]

Bro' if you had a vagina you'd be shedding rug rats like pea's

If i had a vagina i would be rich

[SMOKEU]

The big question I have(and I do not even want to start a race war cos my Missus is Maori) is with the hundreds of millions of dollars of treaty settlement money, why do we still have(predominately) Maori kids going to school hungry, barefoot, without raincoats and living in substandard accomodation?

With all that money given to the tribes, why do we have to have a Telethon so the poor friggin kids can have something to eat for breakfast or lunch and why do the schools have to provide it?

Because they're too busy spending their money on alcohol, drugs and gambling to have enough money to feed the kids.

[chef]

This shit really gets my goat! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10591226)

that really pisses me off too paying so much tax for those niggers

[boomer]

Do like they do in district 9... [best saffa accent]make the fookers POP ! [/best saffa accent]

[Insanity_rules]

If i had a vagina i would be rich

And in the guiness book I would imagine.

[vifferman]

I worked with a guy once who'd worked out that if he had enough kids for a softball team (what's that - 10?) he'd be getting the same in DPB as he was earning working for the Gummint, so he just kept getting his wife pregnant.
Really ferking stupid though - he hadn't figured in costs, like he had to build an extra garage on his section to house some of his spawn.

I think I was on the dole once, for about a week, when I was a uni student and had no work. When I was unemployed in Roundabouta, I did househusbanding, supplemented by painting, plastering, kiwifruit packing, contract programming, anything that turned up. Fuck being on the dole - just going into the WINZ office is REALLY depressing and soul destroying.

[Jonno.]

I read in the paper today, that if someone with ten kids got a job paying the average wage of 900 they would be 400$ better off then the benefit.

...

[enigma51]

I read in the paper today, that if someone with ten kids got a job paying the average wage of 900 they would be 400$ better off then the benefit.

...

Yeah but then they would have to actually work.