RG150 Vs CBR250RR?

[Coyote]

I was wondering how the RG150 compares to the CBR250RR? I want to know this cause I was thinking of selling the CBR and getting a RG, as a RG would be more 'crashable' out on the track.

...Unless I can get some good protection for it sorted, like those DHC mushrooms or something

Part of the reason also is that with the extra money after buying the RG, might be able to get an RGV250 :2thumbsup

[John]

I would say the RG would take it mainly because of its size. But I cant be sure - 2smoker will provide an unbiased opinioun I'm sure.

If I were you I'd keep the CBRR. But hey pie or apples its really your choice

[Coyote]

I would say the RG would take it mainly because of its size. But I cant be sure - 2smoker will provide an unbiased opinioun I'm sure.

If I were you I'd keep the CBRR. But hey pie or apples its really your choice
Would you wanna race your ZXR, then crash and it becomes a write off? At least if I crashed a RG, it wouldn't be so expensive

[John]

Would you wanna race your ZXR, then crash and it becomes a write off? At least if I crashed a RG, it wouldn't be so expensive
If your worried about writing a bike off on a track then you shouldnt be racing IMO.

[Coyote]

...then you shouldnt be racing IMO.
Out of the question!

[Coyote]

Umm. is the CBRR road worthy? I want one...
Yes it is

Also you might remember it as Her_B4s last bike

[sAsLEX]

Would you wanna race your ZXR, then crash and it becomes a write off? At least if I crashed a RG, it wouldn't be so expensive

umm have you asked ts how much he has spent on the rg?? or how much the tires are??

from what i remember, they are about the same speed in a straight line with the cbr pulling away in the end, but TS and I swapped around a bit on the "track" as he would draft me and catch up

[Coyote]

umm have you asked ts how much he has spent on the rg?? or how much the tires are??

from what i remember, they are about the same speed in a straight line with the cbr pulling away in the end, but TS and I swapped around a bit on the "track" as he would draft me and catch up
See, its that sorta stuff I wanted to know, thanks :niceone:

[John]

Would you wanna race your ZXR, then crash and it becomes a write off? At least if I crashed a RG, it wouldn't be so expensive
oh yes, I will be racing my zxr, I dont plan of having a write off - but if I do I will pick up a wrecked bike and put it back together thats racing, and its actually the FUN part of it all.

But in all seriousness, RG and CBRR really would be about the same, I just dont like how they are so light.

[Two Smoker]

umm have you asked ts how much he has spent on the rg?? or how much the tires are??

from what i remember, they are about the same speed in a straight line with the cbr pulling away in the end, but TS and I swapped around a bit on the "track" as he would draft me and catch up

Ive spent thousands on the engine (keeping it at its peak performance) and tyres are farkn expensive (240 for the front and 260 for the rear!!!) I think that CBR's have more cornering clearance but im not sure as i havnt ridden one, Around a fast track such as Pukekohe im doing 1:20's which is the fastest it can go (literally) and i know of a mate doing 1:18's on a CBR250RR

CBR has more power and torque so pulls far better at higher speed, at lower speed the RG is a little quicker (lower gearing)

Personally, see if you can get some fairings for your CBR otherwise your just going to have to risk crashing them... Once a race bike its hard to make it a "mint" road bike...

Otherwise, keep your CBR and buy a RG aswell...

A good racer crashes sometimes, a bad racer doesnt crash at all, a really bad racer crashes all the time. Basically what im saying is you have to crash at sometime to know the limits... Ask any racer if they have crashed...

[sAsLEX]

.. Ask any racer if they have crashed...

just dont ask TS as you will be put off!!

[Two Smoker]

just dont ask TS as you will be put off!!

Im a really bad AND SLOW racer...

[Coyote]

Ive spent thousands on the engine (keeping it at its peak performance) and tyres are farkn expensive (240 for the front and 260 for the rear!!!) I think that CBR's have more cornering clearance but im not sure as i havnt ridden one, Around a fast track such as Pukekohe im doing 1:20's which is the fastest it can go (literally) and i know of a mate doing 1:18's on a CBR250RR

CBR has more power and torque so pulls far better at higher speed, at lower speed the RG is a little quicker (lower gearing)
Whats this about 1:18?


Personally, see if you can get some fairings for your CBR otherwise your just going to have to risk crashing them... Once a race bike its hard to make it a "mint" road bike...
Thing is with streetstock, your not allowed fibreglass fairings, and they seemed like the best option. I full set of original plastics will cost around $800 AUS, whilst fibreglass was going to be $600 NZ excluding the rear fairings

Otherwise, keep your CBR and buy a RG aswell...
If I come across one cheap enough cause I don't make that much money. I was thinking of buying a already raced one (anyone know one for sale?)

A good racer crashes sometimes, a bad racer doesnt crash at all, a really bad racer crashes all the time. Basically what im saying is you have to crash at sometime to know the limits... Ask any racer if they have crashed...
I've crashed a few times, so I can't be all bad

[Two Smoker]

Whats this about 1:18?

1:18 is the time it takes the CBR to go around Pukekohe, and 1:20 is the time it takes me to go around on a RG150. 2 seconds difference due to the power


$800 AUS, whilst fibreglass was going to be $600 NZ excluding the rear fairings $(AUS)800 is fucking cheap!!!


If I come across one cheap enough cause I don't make that much money. I was thinking of buying a already raced one (anyone know one for sale?)

Mine will be for sale soon...

[Coyote]

$(AUS)800 is fucking cheap!!!
There is the problem of having them shipped over, but its possible

Mine will be for sale soon...
How much?

[Two Smoker]

There is the problem of having them shipped over, but its possible

How much?

Shipping shouldnt be too bad, it was only $100US to ship my forks over from the USA...

Thinking around $1500 but dont know exactly yet...

[John]

Do you do 1.18's? :D

[Two Smoker]

Do you do 1.18's? :D
Me? On what??

[John]

Me? On what??

no sorry I thought alarumba said he did 1:18's at pukie ... :sick:

[Two Smoker]

no sorry I thought alarumba said he did 1:18's at pukie ... :sick:

LOL, no worries mate :niceone: Maybe one day Alarumba will get down to 1:18's...

[Coyote]

LOL, no worries mate :niceone: Maybe one day Alarumba will get down to 1:18's...
It'll be a great achievement if I make 1:30 :p

[Coyote]

It'll be a great achievement if I make 1:30 :p
Fastest lap was 2:22 on the long circuit, fastest RG was 4 seconds behind, not bad for my first day against experienced racers :2thumbsup

Therefore the CBR is the better bike, at least for the manfield track, have to see how well it does at Taupo

Only problem though, bloody heavy to pick up, DNF race 2 because of this

And race 3, I had a RG fly into me, causing heavy damage

All I have to do now to the CBR to get it ready for going, let alone racing is:
-Plastic weld front fairing together
-Get a new front brake assembly (resevoir is demolished and lever is nowhere, snapped right off)
-Replace cracked crankcase side cover, or at least weld this one together and weld a plate on it for extra protection
-Push right footpeg back a bit
-Get new fairing mounts for the front fairing, or bend them back into shape if possible
-Weld the front wheel fairing together
-Fix dent in tank caused by trailer, and then made worse by the RG
-Replace rear brake lever as that one was eaten up by the tarmac around the corners (what is that scrapping noise?)
-Cheap brand tyres that came with the bike are looking really dodgey (this has been a problem for a while, race abuse have left them looking worse), replace with GPR-70s
-Move dashboard a bit to the right where its supposed to be
-Replace leaking sump oil

Otherwise, engine works, frame seems ok, the rear fairings are perfect, dashboard is ok-just needs to be moved, electrics seem fine, just need to get a quote on all this :pinch:

[EDIT]Also my leathers are torn apart, and I might've had a concussion from the collision

[Two Smoker]

Fastest lap was 2:22 on the long circuit, fastest RG was 4 seconds behind, not bad for my first day against experienced racers :2thumbsup



2:22's are awesome!!! faster than some of the F3 guys....

Bugger about the bin mate :( saw you over by the hairpin (the really sharp one by on the extension)

[Coyote]

I want to change my number to 666 :-p just thought I would start this post with something random

Anyway, my Dad got some advice from one of his mates (the guy who has 10 bikes and 3 Datsun 300Zs) and he said this is what I need to get/do
-aftermarket clip-ons ($130 - $150) - lower riding position
-another tank - any colour (Trademe)
-fairings - he said from Hamilton so he must be on about Just Fairings - buy 2, one for road, one for racing
-take anything off
-seat units that may fit
-engine bars - maybe get them made up (8-10mm steel, I can do that at metalwork)
-weld case if possible (Might be able to do this at metalwork)
-engine bungs - crash bungs
-stickiest tyres

So... where can I find these clip ons for the handlebars, seat units that may fit, engine bars, bungs and tyres?

[Coyote]

Tyres are really important cause I think thats why I fell off first time round, and as I said before, the ones that came with the bike look realllly dodgey

Also, I'm interested in getting new rear sets to give me a higher ground clearance

[Racey Rider]

So were you the Black CBR250 in Streetstocks? #132?
Was it you that came off on the first sweeper, then had #62 KR150 run off the track behind you and run straight into your bike? Talk about target fixation!
If that was you, I got a good vid of it happening :niceone:

The other thing you need to look into is what things you are allowed to do to your bike, and still race in streetstocks.
I don't know the rules for the 250's, but we're not allowed to make changes like that to our 150's. They must be standard. I don't think you would be allowed GPR70 tyres. You have to stay with surtain types of tyres if you want to stay within the rules.
That was my understanding. Best you ask Vic club yourself,
then let us know too :yes:

[mikey]

at taupo 10th i came up behind motoracer on the straight a few times but could not pull past him. my bike is a few years older than yours so not sure if yours would pull away from the RG, though i dont think the RG was stock like mine, an mine has no fairings an stuff.

guy on a zxr 250 same year as your bike was pulling away from me on straight, think he would have it over RG. but not by much. an then theres corners.

[Two Smoker]

at taupo 10th i came up behind motoracer on the straight a few times but could not pull past him. my bike is a few years older than yours so not sure if yours would pull away from the RG, though i dont think the RG was stock like mine, an mine has no fairings an stuff.



Nup that RG (my one) is stock standard except for the braided brake lines..

[mikey]

fibre glass fairings?

not that they make any diff just looks like a race bike not a street bike.

[Coyote]

You can't do much to modify a streetstock bike. As far as I know, your only allowed to buy aftermarket parts as replacements to broken parts, otherwise you have to keep the bike stock. Stupid rule cause I would've prefurred wrecking brand new fibreglass fairings than my originals, ah well

Suppose you can get away with modifications since they don't scrutineer the bikes

[Coyote]

So were you the Black CBR250 in Streetstocks? #132?
Was it you that came off on the first sweeper, then had #62 KR150 run off the track behind you and run straight into your bike? Talk about target fixation!
If that was you, I got a good vid of it happening :niceone:

Yep, thats me

Max told me about that vid, said you showed him after the race of his accident. I'll have to see it sometime

[neil_cb125t]

have to say ya was quick you staight line speed was huge, and of course the corners too.
but i have to say all that speed was put to shame!! not by crashin but if its on the vid look at which side you were trying to pick the bike up on!!!

you cant pick up a bike by pulling it up from standing over it, get on side of it then pick it up by lifting it from the bottom. i could see you for 2 laps trying.

hat off though, i placed 5th 4th and 3rd on the black and silver rg. i think that my wieght is holin me back a bit i 87kg, got to be the heaviest there.
so i ended up well off for the meetin. wish i could say was through passing but it was beacuse of people crashing. sometimes it better to be consistant.

[Coyote]

you cant pick up a bike by pulling it up from standing over it, get on side of it then pick it up by lifting it from the bottom. i could see you for 2 laps trying.

Yeah, problem was when I tryed to do that in the first place, the front wheel slid on the grass, so the idea of me pulling it up was cause i could put my foot in front of the wheel to stop it sliding and my foot would've hopefully acted like a lever

but, the bike was a fat bitch :-p

[XTC]

have to say ya was quick you staight line speed was huge, and of course the corners too.
but i have to say all that speed was put to shame!! not by crashin but if its on the vid look at which side you were trying to pick the bike up on!!!

you cant pick up a bike by pulling it up from standing over it, get on side of it then pick it up by lifting it from the bottom. i could see you for 2 laps trying.

hat off though, i placed 5th 4th and 3rd on the black and silver rg. i think that my wieght is holin me back a bit i 87kg, got to be the heaviest there.
so i ended up well off for the meetin. wish i could say was through passing but it was beacuse of people crashing. sometimes it better to be consistant.
:killingme thats funny..... I'm not a big dude but had to pick up my VF1000R once...... 250kg's on the moon..... almost broke my back but got it up.

[Racey Rider]

I was thinking, If all us Streetstock racers entered F3 as well, we could double our track time.
Have our own little race within F3!
It's only $10 extra to enter F3 as well as Streetstock. :niceone:

[Coyote]

I was thinking, If all us Streetstock racers entered F3 as well, we could double our track time. Have our own little race within F3! It's only $10 extra to enter F3 as well as Streetstock. :niceone:
I'm all for that idea :yes:

Doubt I'm gonna get this bike running for round 2, maybe even 3. Its all easily repairable, just will cost a fair bit

Ah well, next year I might get on the podium

[XTC]

I was thinking, If all us Streetstock racers entered F3 as well, we could double our track time.
Have our own little race within F3!
It's only $10 extra to enter F3 as well as Streetstock. :niceone:
Then you could put on more go fast bits too.... Maybe a stock engine for one class and a race engine for the other. Should only take 20 mins to swap over :)

[Two Smoker]

I was thinking, If all us Streetstock racers entered F3 as well, we could double our track time.
Have our own little race within F3!
It's only $10 extra to enter F3 as well as Streetstock. :niceone:

Damn straight... You guys would be right up there touching the back of midfield (the fast SS guys)

[Coyote]

Then you could put on more go fast bits too.... Maybe a stock engine for one class and a race engine for the other. Should only take 20 mins to swap over :)
CBR250RR with GSX1300R engine :devil2:

[Coyote]

Dad just got some 'liquid metal' from supercheap. This was one of the things my Dads friend reccommended. Hopefully it should fix up the crankcase

Let you all know how it works on this thread tonight, I'll go out to the gargre now

[Racey Rider]

Dad just got some 'liquid metal' from supercheap. This was one of the things my Dads friend reccommended. Hopefully it should fix up the crankcase
I used that to fix a rust hole in my fuel tank. Worked a treat!

[Coyote]

I used that to fix a rust hole in my fuel tank. Worked a treat!
Well thats good to hear. Didn't bother using it this afternoon, try it tomorrow

Also, can anyone give me any info on how to make your own fibreglass fairing? It'ld be cheaper, plus could make a nicer lookin one :2thumbsup

[John]

Newbies playing with fibreglass IS NOT FUN!

Plus you will need to make a mould and that can be a bitch ass in itself but go for gold if your keen!

[John]

CBR250RR with GSX1300R engine :devil2:
GSX1300 with a CBRR Frame :lol:

[Coyote]

Newbies playing with fibreglass IS NOT FUN!

Plus you will need to make a mould and that can be a bitch ass in itself but go for gold if your keen!
Can't you make a wire frame then fibreglass onto that?

I'm gonna learn this at school anyway, but I wanted to see if I could do anything before Round 2

At the moment, I'll be able to race, only I won't have a front fairing and no front brakes

[John]

Can't you make a wire frame then fibreglass onto that?

I'm gonna learn this at school anyway, but I wanted to see if I could do anything before Round 2

At the moment, I'll be able to race, only I won't have a front fairing and no front brakes
You can, but if you do that you havto make it fully plated so that it sets even otherwise you will be sanding....and...sanding....and...sanding ;)

Good luck either way I'm sure someone else has a better grasp on it than my newbieism

[Coyote]

You can, but if you do that you havto make it fully plated so that it sets even otherwise you will be sanding....and...sanding....and...sanding ;)

Good luck either way I'm sure someone else has a better grasp on it than my newbieism
I don't mind alot of sanding if it means getting the right shape

If anyone finds a useful site, let me know

[Racey Rider]

Tyres are really important cause I think thats why I fell off first time round,

Didn't help that you rode the exact line of the cement dust on that corner.
Vid shows your back tyre wash out on the dust.

[Two Smoker]

Tyres are really important cause I think thats why I fell off first time round, and as I said before, the ones that came with the bike look realllly dodgey

Why cant you use GPR70's???

[k14]

Yeah you can use any street tyres, this means gpr70's will be sweet. Save up about $450 for a set and you will be sorted. They are the best tyres you can get for a cbr250, make sure you get the right profiles though so it doesn't affect your turning ability.

Guttered to hear about your crash, hope you get everything fixed sweet.

[Coyote]

Bike doesn't look so nasty once the fairing is off. The brake lever/reservoir assembly is beyond repair as half the bloody thing is missing, that'll need replacing. Fairing can be taped up I guess, that be allright if I can't get a fairing for round 2, but ideally I'll be getting a fibreglass replacement. The fairing mounts are all bent, got a new rubber mallet (christmas already? :-p) to whack them into place, going to try that liquid metal on the crankcase, allthough not sure how ideal that'll be as the crankcase looks in real bad shape

If I can learn how to do some fibreglass fairings, it'll be an enormous help

[Coyote]

Didn't help that you rode the exact line of the cement dust on that corner.
Vid shows your back tyre wash out on the dust.
What the hell is cement dust doin on the track?

Also I had been taking that line most of the time, wouldn't I have washed out on that corner earlier?

[JohnBoy]

id say to cover something slippery...
i didnt hear anything about it and they didnt say anything at the brief.
anyways i rode on em a bit and had good traction

[Racey Rider]

What the hell is cement dust doin on the track?

They use it to cover/absorb oil spills.

Thinking about it, I'ld be a little brassed off if you spread sump oil around the track couse you didn't fix the hole in you crackcase properly. Liquid Metal may work in the short term, but One little Off, and I'm sure it would leak oil out again easily.

[Coyote]

They use it to cover/absorb oil spills.

Thinking about it, I'ld be a little brassed off if you spread sump oil around the track couse you didn't fix the hole in you crackcase properly. Liquid Metal may work in the short term, but One little Off, and I'm sure it would leak oil out again easily.
The liquid metal will be short term untill we find a suitable replacement, or I can mend this one at metalwork

[k14]

Yeah I wouldnt be using it either. Get it welded up or get a replacement. They won't be too expensive from a wrecker. I wouldn't rate the liquid metal to last very long and what about if some breaks off and gets inside your engine??

Hope you get it fixed sweet.

[Coyote]

I'll have to wait a week or so untill I can take it to school

[CBobR]

I was following Two Smoker around Pukekohe last year, and his RG was running out of ground clearance before my CBR250RR even though he was hanging off more.

The 1:18s were on my second trackday, just starting to scrape stuff at castrol, after a couple more I did get a bit faster to the point were ground clearance was a problem.

Two Smoker is a way more skilled rider than me, so at Puke at least, I think that the CBR is a bit faster than the RG (might be different at tighter tracks).

Hope this helps.

[Coyote]

Two Smoker is a way more skilled rider than me, so at Puke at least, I think that the CBR is a bit faster than the RG (might be different at tighter tracks).

Coming out of the corners, I was passing the RGs as I was quite significantly faster

Felt like I was cheating to be honest

[avgas]

really depends on the setups of the bikes as well. when i had my motor ticking over nicely and i knew the RG - she would fly, i even scared the occasional fireblade on our rides. However this all came to nothing as i blew the living shit out of the motor at 24,000ks. mind due that said - atleast 15,000 of those ks were above 9,000 revs. Either my bike or my license was going to give way - so i was kinda happy the bike went first.
However in standard form the cbr has a good 10hp over an RG - so it really comes down to the rider (im a crap rider hense why i got my rg tuned) :laugh:
Someday ill have my Bimota Vdue (with a proper motor) and we'll see if 2 stroke is really dead :niceone:

[SPORK]

Well, the only bright side of this is that...

I'll be racing in a few months! Woo!

Then we'll see how a ZXR stacks up maybe?

[Coyote]

However in standard form the cbr has a good 10hp over an RG - so it really comes down to the rider (im a crap rider hense why i got my rg tuned) :laugh:
Don't they have roughly the same power? The RG has about 35hp at the wheel and so does the CBR?

[Coyote]

Then we'll see how a ZXR stacks up maybe?
Come down and have a look at the CBR, might turn you away from a 250 4 stroke

Allthough, if you have the money, by all means go ahead :niceone:

[neil_cb125t]

Don't they have roughly the same power? The RG has about 35hp at the wheel and so does the CBR?

Have to say that info's is a little off, my rg has 26.1 hp at the wheel had it dynoed, had it re-jetted too it also has had a full top end rebuild. though it was more for makin her richer meaning it hopefully will last the season.
I have to say the bike is still kinda gettin run in. and is feeling better
The RG has a weight advantage, 120kg in road trim ya CBR wont be anything less than 140.
your CBR is the fastest Ive seen, ridden all the 250s there are, the ZXR A model is norm the quickest, FZR got the best mid range. but you past me then a zx i was followin like we were standing still.
I think it all deppends on wiether the previous small crazy asian onwer desided to work it up befoe it hit our shores.
The other thing you could look at in sellys metal "need it" used it on a side cover on a suzuki, worked wonders.

[inlinefour]

I'd back the 250cc bike over the 150cc bike. Ridden the rg150 and it was pretty pathetic with a 100kg rider on it. The CBR250 was slightly better and the CBR600 was perfect! :msn-wink:

[SPORK]

I'd back the 250cc bike over the 150cc bike. Ridden the rg150 and it was pretty pathetic with a 100kg rider on it. The CBR250 was slightly better and the CBR600 was perfect! :msn-wink:
Well, I'm 65kg, so that won't make a difference for me!

[she_said]

avgasHowever this all came to nothing as i blew the living shit out of the motor at 24,000ks.

thats exactly what i did a coupl weeks ago....but new motor is sweet with only 2800km on it :Punk:

[JohnBoy]

The RG has a weight advantage, 120kg in road trim ya CBR wont be anything less than 140.....


but that dosn't take into account how many pies and beers that you would consume prior to the race meet now would it Neil??
put the CB in Clubbies and come and chase me and SB!! :Punk:

[avgas]

the thing about 2 strokes as well - is dont expect any power down low, when i had mine dynoed by the guy who did my powervalves he said i had a wopping 8hp at 6K :killingme but thats cos he said my power valves wont launch till 10.5K hitting a peak at 12.2K with 36hpat the wheel.
the CBR will prob hit good power about 1/3 the way up (not near half like my RG) and keep pulling cos of the torque the 4 stroke 4 has.
But at the end of the day its just how big ya balls are - if they are huge u dont need a bike bike........all u need is a TS185 and a prayer :drinknsin

anyone broken 210 on an RG yet? :niceone: good on ya
If she stops smoking somethings broken.
Cos a good bike is like a good women, if she doesnt scream when you go for a ride - your style is all wrong. :Punk:

[Coyote]

if they are huge u dont need a bike bike........all u need is a TS185 and a prayer :drinknsin
Show me the TS185 and I'll have a try :eek:

Cos a good bike is like a good women, if she doesnt scream when you go for a ride - your style is all wrong. :Punk:
No problems there :msn-wink:

Big thanks to Sparky Bills!!! Got a great brake assembly of an unknown brand for 60 bucks :2thumbsup (BTW, this is your que to give him some green bling)

Also, the original fairing looks largely intact, and if I can find someone to do it, might be able to repair it to original condition, so I can leave that aside for selling day

Also if I can find/afford one, maybe get a CBR1000 front fairing and modify it to suit :yeah:

[Bert]

Sorry - cut this from Tex's race report (as he asked), background - heated debate regarded 250 fours in SS.



I'm happy for the 250's to be there. All the more to race against. But it is a bit demoraling when they pull away from us 2/s down the straights. :bye:



So we agree then!
Next race,,,, sombody takes Vtec out!! :blip:

Hi Racey
Just a wee reminder, whom passes who in the corners...... after being pulled away from in the straights....
but all in all I'd personally rather a two, but the z-bus was the right price. the key is it's still fun, and if it wasn't I'd find something else to do with my weekends.
But i think we (the SS racers) need a full set of rules, what we can and can't do. a couple of examples
1.my front brake lines are stuffed. I've got a set of braded lines in the shed. can or can't i uses them ????
2.my full zorst is rusted and ground to a pulp from the other weekend, can i replace them with new one's, aftermarket parts are cheeper but deamed as race/proformance, can i build them myself (we all know that I'd try and extract as much power as possible if I was going to waste a couple of weekends welding and bending)..
I say stop. do what you can to keep the bike going, without doing any HP mods, if someone really wanted to I'm sure they could get 40ish HP out of a 150, but why. this is a Fun entry level class, if you want to spend bucket loads on dyno's and tuning buy a F3 or 600. keep it what it is, FUN.

and yea someone take out Vtec, just kidding you go boy -- all the way to F1 ASAP, so others can win:nya:

[texmo]

Yeah I kinda want to put bradied lines on my bike not really for racing though, more for getting my rear wheel off the ground.

Also I got some tyre warmers that were broken for free now they are fixed can I use them?

[Racey Rider]

I have just checked the MNZ website for streetstock rules, as as you may be awear,, it doesn't really say much.
It doesn't even talk about 250 4/s being allowed in streetstock.
My understanding is it was just a Vic club initiative to get more would b racers into the sport.

My thoughts are:
Exhausts should remain standard until crash damage or rust made them un-useable. Then after market exhaust parts may be used.
Makeing your own would be frowned appon, if they worked well.

Braded brake lines is a no no. Dam! you've got TWO disks up there already!!!

Tyre warmers is ok, but not really in keeping with the goals of the class.

Just my thoughts

What do you think about removing the air filter (using a stocking instead) as part of the allowable Jetting changes that are allowed in the rules?
Now that the fast 250's are there, we need to get every pony we can out of the 150's through good jetting to have a chance.
I don't agree with major engine mod's though.

[N4CR]

To be honest without major engine work and rg ain't going to catch a 4 stroke on the straight anyway.. ridden the rg's before and the zxr dicks them in a line.. mid corner is another story though hehehehe

Putting a pipe on a zxr don't do shit really unless you tune it for it, how many people stick them on and don't tune them.. most.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Yep im with racey on the mods.

Twin disk should stay rubber hose. Single should be allowed braided.

250s should have oem airfilters. 150s open (i may be biased)

[vtec]

I think thats fair RG, but the reason for not allowing modifications in the class is to keep costs down, and keep it simple. So that's why they don't want people messing with things like changing airflow characteristics and jetting to suit, too hard for many noobs... but hey I'm all for it if it means more people up with me. I fully intend to run stock everything on my bike that includes oem air filter. But I'd like to point out that so far, I'm the only 250 near the front of the field in the results. From what I've heard, Texmo has improved a lot, so if the next race is a dry one we'll get to see how big an advantage the 250 is, so reserve judgment on the 250's till we see a couple of them thrashing the field.

Also, I'm pretty sure that I've decided to step up to F2 next year. So I'll be giving up uni at least for a while to try and make enough money to fund the habit, and see what sponsorship I can get for next year.

[Jantar]

I have just checked the MNZ website for streetstock rules, as as you may be awear,, it doesn't really say much.
It doesn't even talk about 250 4/s being allowed in streetstock.
My understanding is it was just a Vic club initiative to get more would b racers into the sport.

My thoughts are:
Exhausts should remain standard until crash damage or rust made them un-useable. Then after market exhaust parts may be used.
Makeing your own would be frowned appon, if they worked well.

Braded brake lines is a no no. Dam! you've got TWO disks up there already!!!

Tyre warmers is ok, but not really in keeping with the goals of the class.

Just my thoughts

What do you think about removing the air filter (using a stocking instead) as part of the allowable Jetting changes that are allowed in the rules?
Now that the fast 250's are there, we need to get every pony we can out of the 150's through good jetting to have a chance.
I don't agree with major engine mod's though.

As I understand it the streetstock is just a rewording of the old "Production Racing" rules. Some people on here may be old enough to remember when a Suzuki Rebel 315 cc won the 6 hour production race in Australia. (From memory it was Bathurst). Despite being quicker than all the bigger machines machines, the rider was disqualified because the bike was not standard. It had been modified in that the horn had been removed.

"Stock standard" meant just that. The bike had to be exactly as one could purchase it brand new off the showroom floor.

[vtec]

Well, you're supposed to remove all glass, and lights and mirrors, and do all the normal racebike setup, but you're not supposed to do performance modifications. But I only think they'll care if you're leading the race, which is why I intend on keeping everything bone stock.

However they have said that you're allowed race pipes if you've wrecked your one, or if it came with it... have a read from here: http://www.vicclub.co.nz/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=68

"Modifications

As the class name implies, this class is for STOCK STANDARD bikes. The only modifications from standard that will be permitted are:
Soft compound road-going DOT tyres
Removal of fairings if desired (fibre glass fairings allowed from 2006)
Removal or taping up of glass (mirrors, headlights, indicators, taillights) with duct tape
Removal of passenger footpegs
Wiring up of sump plug and oil filter (see how to below)
Change coolant for non-glycol coolant

If your bike has come from Japan with an aftermarket exhaust on it, this will be allowed, but fitting of a new one except in the case of crash damage is not allowed. We have to leave this up to you to police yourselves, but it is generally easy to tell if this has been done here.

Crash damage can be minimised by removing the fairings altogether if you like, but replacement fairings shouldn’t be too costly when correctly sourced and duct tape and plastic welding work wonders.

By the way, we will have a technical inspector checking bikes! Anyone thought to be burglaring the class will be asked to rectify the situation after being excluded from that meeting.

REMEMBER, THE CLASS IS FOR NEW RIDERS AND NOVICE RIDERS TO LEARN THE SPORT, NOT FOR FAST GUYS TO BURGLAR THEIR WAY TO A TITLE!!"


These are the reasons for the 4strokes:
"The DESL Motorcycles Streetstock class has come about via a lengthy process of evolution over the past 20 or 25 years. In the late 70’s to mid 80’s we had 250cc Production class which ran 250 cc 2-stroke road bikes (RD, RG, KR to RGV, KR-1 and NSR’s etc). Following the loss of these bikes to cost and attrition the class was abandoned in the late 90’s. At the same time however, 150cc 2-stroke commuter bikes made their appearance on the market. The organisers of the Suzuki Central Roadrace series saw the opportunity to provide an entry level class for novice racers and it really took off as 150 Streetstock. Now that these bikes are also disappearing due to emissions controls internationally and the move to 4-strokes, VMCC have taken the opportunity to evolve the class again to allow 250cc 4-stroke bikes to compete and we simplify the name to Streetstock. "

Also, I think that because we will eventually be racing the 600 and 1000cc 4 strokes, I think that it's best to learn the trade on a 4stroke with at least a semblance of engine braking. If they had not allowed these bikes, I would not have started racing this year or maybe never. As I never want to touch a two stroke again :P Plus, for many, starting on a 400 4stroke is not the best, as they may be a bit too fast for a noob. Also, from where I was sitting bucket racing didn't really appeal, but the 250 4stroke is my ideal starting point. Also, stock standard racing is great, keeps costs down, and is supposed to keep rider competitiveness up. There is no way they are going to ban the 250 4strokes, they brought them in for very good reasons.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Yeah.

I love to have as many people as possible out on the track.

It just that not everyone can afford $5000 street stock bikes. As the street stock class is supposed to be a "cheap entry into racing" i dunno if $5000+ is classed as cheap?

but hey dems the rules and if neil chappell can keep up with you - then i need to pull my finger outta ma ass and ride harder.

[N4CR]

Mabey it's time to face the music.. two strokes are dying out, as are the IL4 250s (not made since 95ish..?) but to a lesser extent as they are much more reliable. 10 years time class if still around will be full of stacked hyoshittas i'd say, not the ancient zxrs and cbrs of old. Noone will know what a 2 stroke is by then.

Evolution... times change, deal with it. Not many people start on rg's etc anymore.

[vtec]

Good perspective Arcturus. Yeah 250's have gone backwards since the early 90's which is sad, cause they are bloody sweet bikes. In 10 years, my bike will be 26 years old... a quarter of a bloody century... even on a Honda, maintaining it will lose its cost effectiveness.

Also, RoadRash bought 2 CBR250's for $2g (for both) a bit damaged, but he's got one going with full fairings, and just needs some forks for his other one which will cost a few hundred. Plus they are a lot cheaper on maintenance than the 2 strokes, so that brings them back in line with the 2strokes on cost. plus resale value is good, as you can get so many k's out of them... Plus they crash extremely well, as I have proven. Initial investment is worth it over the 2strokes... IMO. Oh yeah, I just bought a crash damaged CBR250R for $1g, just needs new front fairings, a new headlight, and a new instrument cluster, a new clutch cable, and clutch lever attachment and bolts. So all up looking pretty with on road costs, it's going to cost about $2.5g, and they're supposed to have the same power as the MC22.

[HDTboy]

RG100, you must be looking in the wrong places for your bikes. I bought my CBR250RR for $2700, and I've heard of them changing hands for much less than that.

[Coyote]

Plus they crash extremely well
Sure do. I managed to crash my old 250 twice in one morning

[SPORK]

Not yet up to James' standard, really.

Get on messanger

[Sketchy_Racer]

yeah i know you can get a cheap MC19....

I dunno where you could get a going reasonable condition MC22 for less than 4Gs.... if you do know where one is tell me.

I dont want a 19 as its suspension is shit

[Coyote]

Whats a MC19 like to ride? Their tyres are as thin as an RGs, so do they handle as sharp?

I think I'm going to go racing this month. I've had enough ride time, I finally regained my confidence back and I'm not concerned about the bikes condition anymore

[Sketchy_Racer]

MC19 has the same width tyres as the mc22

they have lousy ground clearance and the steering geometry is old school making turning in feels like riding a chopper..

still a good bike though.

[MOTOXXX]

im by no means the fastest in the class but here is my opinion....

the cbr250rr is faster than the kr and rg 150's - full stop.

the kr's have a shit load more ground clearance and are slightly faster than the rg's, i know this as ive had them pull away from me.

The rg's have peg and pipe issues and it doesn’t help that the pipe is on the right side and manfield is mostly right hand corners.

At the end of the day its all about the rider and being its a novice class, not many novices can ride the full potential of a rr 250, kr or rg.

Last year i watched a guy on an rg150 do 1.26-1.27s and no one is even close to that yet this year. This guy was by no means a novice.

So why not instead of all you guys crying about it, focus on improving riding skills, ie cornering and braking then move up to a bigger class.

One good thing that st stock has taught me, that if you fuck it up you aint going as fast as an f3, f2 or f1 bike and wont hurt yourself as bad. This is a good way to learn and not have a big off as a novice on a big bike.
It’s a good stepping stone to bigger things.

[vtec]

These are the tyres on the bikes in the room next to me. The lower profile on the MC22 means that it stretches the tyre wider, and the larger profile on the MC19 seems to make it so the tyre is a lot taller, and has steeper sides but looks thinner.
mc22 Front: 110/70R17, Rear: 140/60R17
mc19 Front: 100/80R17, Rear: 140/70R17

MotoXXX I checked last years results on mylaps, and only found a best lap in streetstocks of 1:29... was it done in a race?

[Sketchy_Racer]

I know Daniel Labrum was doing 1:28s .....

[MOTOXXX]

nope it wasnt done in a race. was a track day. Have a chat to neil about it at the next round.
it was crazy dude

[vtec]

Cool, just like to make sure a target is realistic before I start chasing it. Pretty sure that I'll get into the 1:20's at the next dry meeting, as long as the track is dry, but 1:26's will be an effort.

Edit: Next meeting is long track, so I'll have to wait to have a go at the lap times.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I cant wait for the long track!!.

Out the back is soo much fun!!

[Sketchy_Racer]

nope it wasnt done in a race. was a track day. Have a chat to neil about it at the next round.
it was crazy dude
I know who it was. It was Jay Lawrence. He was out with my mate Sam Flynn

[madkeenandy]

So were you the Black CBR250 in Streetstocks? #132?
Was it you that came off on the first sweeper, then had #62 KR150 run off the track behind you and run straight into your bike? Talk about target fixation!
If that was you, I got a good vid of it happening :niceone:

The other thing you need to look into is what things you are allowed to do to your bike, and still race in streetstocks.
I don't know the rules for the 250's, but we're not allowed to make changes like that to our 150's. They must be standard. I don't think you would be allowed GPR70 tyres. You have to stay with surtain types of tyres if you want to stay within the rules.
That was my understanding. Best you ask Vic club yourself,
then let us know too :yes:

down here in chch we are allowed to have slicks as it is cheaper and all of us are under 18 and jobless any way, but we are not allowed to modify anything else as to Streetstock rules for 150s and 250s.

Oh and by the way, a 250 4 would be a nicer bike compared to a RG/KR 150

[Racey Rider]

Just to clarify now were a year down the track from that quote of mine,
You are allowed GPR70's for the 250's in streetstocks.

[MOTOXXX]

[QUOTE=RG100!!]/QUOTE]

I hear youll be on that kr of yours you little bastard. :scooter:

[Sketchy_Racer]

all going to plan i will be.

AaaaaND with the dunlop TT900 gp tires on it too!!

w00t

[MOTOXXX]

all going to plan i will be.

AaaaaND with the dunlop TT900 gp tires on it too!!

w00t


i hate you:crybaby:

[Sketchy_Racer]

i hate you :crybaby:

Whaaaaat? (* Bart simpson voice* )

[MOTOXXX]

lol

just gime a couple laps on it so i can see what its like.

those things are phat!

[Sketchy_Racer]

Sure you can take it out in F3 race if you want to.

hopefully the bike should be there. I have to sell my 250 to pay for the tires .

[Racey Rider]

Another question has come up about the Streetstock rules, and as we have had some discussion about them here, I will share my PM for others to give there thoughts.

Hi -----. I don't want to make it hard for anyone mate. But 'streetstock' does have it's set of rules, and my thoughts are, even though a KRR150 has 17" wheels on both ends, putting them on a KR150a (18" rear std) would be outside those rules.

Having said that, I wouldn't say anything about it on race day to knock you out of the running if I was the only voice of that opinion. (If you were running slicks though, that would be another matter).
I just bring it up to be sure you have thought of the issue and others can have input BEFORE race day. Would hate to think that you were pulled from SS racing on your first race with us, because of a change you made that I new about, but hadn't said anything about before hand.
Us Streetstockers have begun discussion about how SS rules apply in other threads. It is a grey area still, and with everyones input, I hope things can be clarified/agreed on.

will add more in the thread.
Cheers
Racey.

As I will probably be stuck in SS for longer than most I am keen to understand what others think and want out of the class. I'm not into 'laying down the law, as I see it', but would like to have an understand of the 'SS law' as WE see it.

Racey

[Sketchy_Racer]

to be honest the only rule i want changed is tyres.

I want to be able to run slicks and wets.

WAIT

before you start ranting on about the $$$

have YOU seen the price you can get a set of Vee rubber slicks? $150 thereabouts.

YOU wanna know how much my tt900gp's are costing me?? (the only good SS tyre)

jsut under $500.

That cause they dont make them anymore.

Sure you can get some cheap shitty Pirrili MT75s.

But they are a commuter tyre. The only sports tyre for the 150s is the dunlop tt900s.

Maybe we need to get a control tyre? A cheap deal from Vee Rubber.

That way the only slicks and wets you can run are veerubber, but the option for road tires is still out there for the guys that just wanna go round a track on their road bike??

Any thoughts?

[Sketchy_Racer]

17" and 18" Rims?

I don't think the Idea of 'streetstock' is to prevent a equal playing feild.

You Can't get a GOOD tire for a 18" rim, so i believe seen as everyone else is running 17" on their bikes, so should you.

Engines on the other hand. Not to be touched FULL STOP.

If it goes bang. you fix what is broken. You DO NOT 'tweak' any thing just cause you have the engine apart.

[texmo]

When running slicks you also need tyre warmers. I get what you are saying I spent $440 on a gpr70 front and gpr100 rear.

[Racey Rider]

I run a TT900gp on my 18" rear. I presume they are still available.
Bridgstone still make the BT39ss (http://mc.bridgestone.co.jp/en/products/battlax/bt39ss.html) in a 18" rear

If slicks are cheaper, then lets put a proposal to Vic club to promote that option. If they are already running slicks in the south Is, there must be a reason for it.

[Sketchy_Racer]

It is not Imparitive that you run tire warmers.

It helps but if the rule is NO tire warmers then everyone is on the same temp tires when they go out on the track.

you "might" be able to find a 18" tt900, But they dont make them anymore so they will run out very quickly.

[texmo]

Your allowed to run tyre warmers, slicks are very slippery when cold.
Why not bradied lines too they are cheeper. Infact after market sprockets are too can I add some teeth on the rear?

[k14]

When running slicks you also need tyre warmers. I get what you are saying I spent $440 on a gpr70 front and gpr100 rear.

Your allowed to run tyre warmers, slicks are very slippery when cold.
So I assume you've ridden on slicks quite alot then?

No they aren't slippery when cold, they're just as slippery as gpr70's et al when cold. And no you don't "need" tyre warmers for slicks, they are handy but not essential. For the 150's they are quite good cause instead of having to buy a set of $400+ gpr70's etc you just get a 2nd hand set of slicks off the 125 guys for $50.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Your allowed to run tyre warmers, slicks are very slippery when cold.
Why not bradied lines too they are cheeper. Infact after market sprockets are too can I add some teeth on the rear?

Yeah but this is the thing, Where you draw the line?

then it will be "let use wiesco Race pistons...they are cheaper an all"

I don't think changing sprockets would be an issue as a few guys already have.

Oh and as long as the brake lines have the DOT markings, then thats sweet.

[Racey Rider]

Your allowed to run tyre warmers, slicks are very slippery when cold.
Why not bradied lines too they are cheeper. Infact after market sprockets are too can I add some teeth on the rear?

The rules are quite clear that YES you are allowed to add/remove teeth from the sprokets to change gearing.

Bradied lines give you Too much of an advartage over non users. I would love a braded line myself, but it's not allowed at this stage.

Tyre warmers in Streetstock? If you have too. But how would you sleep at night?! :blah:

[Ivan]

to be honest the only rule i want changed is tyres.

I want to be able to run slicks and wets.

WAIT

before you start ranting on about the $$$

have YOU seen the price you can get a set of Vee rubber slicks? $150 thereabouts.

YOU wanna know how much my tt900gp's are costing me?? (the only good SS tyre)

jsut under $500.

That cause they dont make them anymore.

Sure you can get some cheap shitty Pirrili MT75s.

But they are a commuter tyre. The only sports tyre for the 150s is the dunlop tt900s.

Maybe we need to get a control tyre? A cheap deal from Vee Rubber.

That way the only slicks and wets you can run are veerubber, but the option for road tires is still out there for the guys that just wanna go round a track on their road bike??

Any thoughts?



Cut the shitty out you rode our bike for free remember and I get a good deal on those pirelli tyres all it takes is you to rant on and someone sees it and bam deal over

If you dont remember you were supplyed the bike for FREE
No Fuel Costs
No Oil Costs
No wear and Tear cost

It has been annoying me hearing you ranting on here about them

[texmo]

So I assume you've ridden on slicks quite alot then?

No they aren't slippery when cold, they're just as slippery as gpr70's et al when cold. And no you don't "need" tyre warmers for slicks, they are handy but not essential. For the 150's they are quite good cause instead of having to buy a set of $400+ gpr70's etc you just get a 2nd hand set of slicks off the 125 guys for $50.
I can go full tit on everycorner after splash as my GPR's. I also tryed it on the first corner and putting my knee on the deck was easy. I am just going off experiances of others. Like dss3 who was banked right over about 5' when he fell off.

[k14]

I am just going off experiances of others. Like dss3 who was banked right over about 5' when he fell off.
There's a few "small" differences between a 150 and a R1. You can go 80% on slicks from cold and as long as you don't do anything stupid nothing will happen. After a warmup lap of manfeild they should be atleast 70% of normal running temp (depending on air temp etc) and that is ample for racing a 150.

[texmo]

There's a few "small" differences between a 150 and a R1. You can go 80% on slicks from cold and as long as you don't do anything stupid nothing will happen. After a warmup lap of manfeild they should be atleast 70% of normal running temp (depending on air temp etc) and that is ample for racing a 150.
Depends on the person riding the 150 I guess. But I get ya and theres a lot more theroy to your logic than mine.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Cut the shitty out you rode our bike for free remember and I get a good deal on those pirelli tyres all it takes is you to rant on and someone sees it and bam deal over

If you dont remember you were supplyed the bike for FREE
No Fuel Costs
No Oil Costs
No wear and Tear cost

It has been annoying me hearing you ranting on here about them

I know Ivan.

Im not complaining about YOU guys. I thank you very much for what you have done. I would not have been able to race without you guys.

But the fact is That the pirrillis are crap.

I know YOU like them. But i know what I like and they are bad. It seems you are the only person that think they are good.

I dont expect you to spend $500 on a set of tyres for someone else to race on. Heck if you really wanted you could put on some Ching Shin tires.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Depends on the person riding the 150 I guess. But I get ya and theres a lot more theroy to your logic than mine.

Just because it is a slick don't mean its any different to a 'sports' tyre.

What you have on your bike at the moment is very much like a slick.. but it has grooves.

[Ivan]

I know Ivan.

Im not complaining about YOU guys. I thank you very much for what you have done. I would not have been able to race without you guys.

But the fact is That the pirrillis are crap.

I know YOU like them. But i know what I like and they are bad. It seems you are the only person that think they are good.

I dont expect you to spend $500 on a set of tyres for someone else to race on. Heck if you really wanted you could put on some Ching Shin tires.

No its annoying im not even going to write a reply to this thread

[k14]

No its annoying im not even going to write a reply to this thread
:rofl: vote that best post ever

[Sketchy_Racer]

what your problem Ivan?



i don't like pirrilis!

you do .

Boo Hoo

[Sketchy_Racer]

:rofl: vote that best post ever


Na i think he got a carrot up his ass

[Ivan]

what your problem Ivan?



i don't like pirrilis!

you do .

Boo Hoo


If you dont like pirelis dont ride the bike simple

[Sketchy_Racer]

Just cause i don't like them doesn't mean i don't enjoy riding the bike.

What is you problem with me disliking them? Is it because YOU think they are sooo great?

[k14]

what your problem Ivan?



i don't like pirrilis!

you do .

Boo Hoo
well i think all you need to do is look at who's fastest. Clearly ivan is alot faster than anyone here (and I know 95% of that is due to natural ability) but the other 5% is tyres. So obviously the pirellis are the better tyres.......

[Sketchy_Racer]

Damn. Im shamed again.

LOL!

[Ivan]

Just cause i don't like them doesn't mean i don't enjoy riding the bike.

What is you problem with me disliking them? Is it because YOU think they are sooo great?

Your missing the point you get bike for free youve complained so much about things if bike and tires are that crappy dont ride it

[gav]

The big advantage with slicks is while they will start at the same temperature as your road tyre when cold they will reach a decent operating temperature sooner than your road rubber will.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Your missing the point you get bike for free youve complained so much about things if bike and tires are that crappy dont ride it


Im not missing the point.

you bike is not a bad bike. It is a very good bike.

But there are issues that YOU fail to see.

Like the front end vibe caused by really bad wheel balance.

10min of work to fix that problem and its all gone, But just because you did not feel that vibe when you were riding that bike, Now makes YOU think im talking shit.

I don't complain for no reason. When i say there is a "really bad front end Vibe/Shake" I mean it.

Tyres are tyres.

Fix whats broken not whats not broken

[Ivan]

watever
I bet i could ride that bike all dayand not feel a thing maybe your pushing the front to hard
I aintreplying to this again

[Sketchy_Racer]

I bet you could ride the bike all day Slowly and not feel it. Yes im sure you can

This is where you are failing to see what running a bike "PROPERLY" is like

[gav]

I think you should swap bikes for next meeting, Ivan could ride the 150 and RG100 could race the RS125, be interesting to see the lap times!

[Sketchy_Racer]

Ivan has already done two seasons on the 150.

I bet his best lap time in my first ever race on the bike and on the track at manfeild.

It was a big difference too

[Ivan]

i only done one season on the 150 and it was my first ever season
racing i had spent the year before learning the basics of how to ride a bucket

and im out for the rest of the season gav i have fractured ball joint on elbow and tendon damage

[gav]

i only done one season on the 150 and it was my first ever season
racing i had spent the year before learning the basics of how to ride a bucket

and im out for the rest of the season gav i have fractured ball joint on elbow and tendon damage
Sounds painful, get well soon, bud!

[texmo]

Just because it is a slick don't mean its any different to a 'sports' tyre.

What you have on your bike at the moment is very much like a slick.. but it has grooves.
Yes they are. My tyres have diffrent operating temps, my tyres are made to warm up and cool down where as after about 10 cycles clicks are normally fucked. My tyres heat up a lot quicker too.

[texmo]

The big advantage with slicks is while they will start at the same temperature as your road tyre when cold they will reach a decent operating temperature sooner than your road rubber will.
True I though it was the other way around. I stand corected/

[Ivan]

thanks I hope i do

[Hillbilly]

What about a Honda NSR150. They're affordable.

[MOTOXXX]

not many around of the nsr. be interesting to see what one is like thou

[Sketchy_Racer]

so if the next race is a dry one we'll get to see how big an advantage the 250 is, so reserve judgment on the 250's till we see a couple of them thrashing the field.


Well you and tex both thrashed the feild and me and neil were the two fastest 150s.

So whats you judgement on the 250's now?

[vtec]

My judgement is that me and Tex are legends. Haha. Yeah I'm pretty sure the 250 fours are better bikes in many ways. But 7 seconds a lap is a long way.

[Sketchy_Racer]

swap bikes then ah?

[Racey Rider]

Swap bikes in the F3 races and lets see what ya Got! :yes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Yerr.

I'll have the KRR150ZX there next round. see how it does against the CBR

[Sketchy_Racer]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36371&d=1152089067

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36372&d=1152089067

[vtec]

Are you racing that RG? Don't go smashing it. It'll probably cost as much as a CBR to get it looking pretty again.

[Sketchy_Racer]

It's already smashed.... well kinda.

Ive got the fairings from my crash on it which are ziptied together.

I'll try get some photos up of what it looks like at the moment....

[texmo]

Any one here know where I can take my rear shock to get it modifyed?

[Sketchy_Racer]

don't know where you could take it,

But I am curious as to what you want to modify...

[sAsLEX]

Any one here know where I can take my rear shock to get it modifyed?

roy/robert/rsomething Taylor in Taranki, stratford I think

[Sketchy_Racer]

KRR150ZX is ready to RACE!!

[texmo]

don't know where you could take it,

But I am curious as to what you want to modify...

I wanna put a diffrent spring in it and get an external resivour fitted to it.


roy/robert/rsomething Taylor in Taranki, stratford I think

Got any contact details please alex?

[MOTOXXX]

I wanna put a diffrent spring in it and get an external resivour fitted to it.



Got any contact details please alex?

can you do that in street stock?

[texmo]

can you do that in street stock?
No, no you cant.

[madkeenandy]

I didnt think it followed the streetstock rules

[Sketchy_Racer]

He's not racing in streetstock anymore. Thats why it don't matter

[Coyote]

KRR150ZX is ready to RACE!!
Looks rather spiffing I must say

[MOTOXXX]

No, no you cant.

so what class are you racing in now?

[madkeenandy]

It would be in F3 now wouldn't it?

[texmo]

None I aint racing any more.

[gav]

You'll be wanting a trick pipe next!

[Racey Rider]

sorry to be losing you Texmo.
We hope to see you back when your ready.