Becoming a new rider...

[I_Love_My_Wife]

hey people! I just joined the forum today to ask you some advice on getting a new motorbike.

I am a 18 years old student at university of auckland living in north shore, beach haven. I currently drive a nissan skyline 1989 with full licence. I normally drive to uni and the parking fee cost too much and i don't want to take the bus.

I found out today that it's free to park your motorbikes at uni so this is the main reason why i am planning to get one. I heard getting a learner is simple. Just have to pass the the basic handling skill test & pass the theory then i should be clean to ride the bike to uni with few conditions.

I never ride a motorbike before but i heard that they teach you how to ride a bike at the basic handling skill test before taking the actual test.

Basically i just want some advice if it's a good idea to get one. My parents told me that bikes are very dangerous to ride especially on the motorway,etc.

Cheers

[Ixion]

I am a 18 years old
Strike 1
I currently drive a nissan skyline 1989 with full licence.
Strike 2
free to park your motorbikes at uni ..why i am planning to get one.
Strike 3
Just have to pass the the basic handling skill test & pass the theory and i can ride the bike to uni with few conditions.
Strike 4
I never ride a motorbike before
Strike 5
they teach you how to ride a bike at the basic handling skill test
Strike 6


Basically i just want some advice if it's a good idea to get one. My parents told me that bikes are very dangerous to ride especially on the motorway,etc.

Cheers

6 strikes. You're going to die. Your parents are right. Every reason you have listed is the wrong reason.

No, it's not a good idea. Unless you have a very large insurance policy with me as the beneficiary.

Forget it.

[SARGE]

I never ride a motorbike before but i heard that they teach you how to ride a bike at the basic handling skill test before taking the actual test.



um... nope .. but there are plenty of instructors around and its reasonable priced

my advice?... get a 50cc scooter and try not to be a fuckwit like the rest of them


oh .. and welcome to KB.. your initiation should be around any second ..:jerry:


EDIT: ... oh .. i see youve met Ixion already ..



release the hounds ...

[hayd3n]

6 strikes. You're going to die. Your parents are right. Every reason you have listed is the wrong reason.

No, it's not a good idea. Unless you have a very large insurance policy with me as the beneficiary.

Forget it.
listening to him is like eating soap!!!
its clean and bubbly but it dosent taste anything like champange

[I_Love_My_Wife]

I won't be able to drive to uni with 50cc moped since i have to pass the motorway. Hmm..

[I_Love_My_Wife]

yeah Ixion is scarying me

[SARGE]

I won't be able to drive to uni with 50cc moped since i have to pass the motorway. Hmm..

ok... a 150cc scooter.. none of those pesky gears to cunfuzzle ya



yeah Ixion is scarying me


you should see him ...

(this is the last SOBER pic we have of him...)

[Edbear]

Your parents are right.

I've been riding since I was 12, (Boy am I tired!), and I am fully focussed on the motorway! I've nearly been knocked off twice recently despite my experience and caution and credit my years of experience and honed reactions with saving my bacon.

A bike is great for traffic and parking if you can ride it through heavy traffic, but I see most L-platers crawling along with the traffic, too afraid and inexperienced to split.

For me, it's a no-brainer, I'll only take the car if I absolutely have to, it is 20min faster and 2/3 cheaper on fuel to take the bike. Parking is free for me too and the combined cost saving is significant. However, you do need to learn properly and build experience riding safely. I don't want to discourage you, but it's not as simple as you'd like to to be.

[Taz]

Cheaper to take the bus really........

[Mom]

hey people! I just joined the forum today to ask you some advice on getting a new motorbike.
Cheers

Welcome to KB! A few things you need to watch out for, though one you have already come across :D dont feed the trolls and what ever you do when you reach the third level dont open the second door on the left :shutup:

Have a look in here too

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=84

[enigma51]

Get a thou!

[The Pastor]

Worst name for a biker site ever.

[The Pastor]

But some advice, if your wanting to learn you can come practice on my bike, im on the shore.

There is also a north auckland street skills night on wednesday nights, once you get a bike you can then go along and learn some more indepth basic riding skills,

also the mentor for the north shore is r6kid, talk to him he'll help you out with riding etc

but..... 18 and married?

[PirateJafa]

you should see him ...

(this is the last SOBER pic we have of him...)

And then we have a picture of Ixion from just last week...

[sil3nt]

I did my license with http://www.riderskills.co.nz/ they will teach you everything you need to know to get started.

Its not the bike thats dangerous its the muppet thats riding it or the other muppets in the cages around you :niceone:

[The Pastor]

HES ACTUALLY LEADER OF THE GANG!

http://www.ixion.org.nz/

[StoneY]

Well this guy came to ask the best (and worst) in the NZ biking fraternity so lets give him the UP's for the GOOD sense to ask for expert help

I tip my hat to this young man- and ask him NOT ride anywhere near me for at least 6 months :niceone:

Get a good instructor and kick off on a 125cc or 150cc roadbike- it will keep you just fast enough to be acceptable on the motorway BUT- Dont go NEAR a motorway on an L license kid- learn FIRST!

Good luck and dog bless:laugh:

[nodrog]

Get a thou!

and a perm!

[dpex]

hey people! I just joined the forum today to ask you some advice on getting a new motorbike.

I am a 18 years old student at university of auckland living in north shore, beach haven. I currently drive a nissan skyline 1989 with full licence. I normally drive to uni and the parking fee cost too much and i don't want to take the bus.

I found out today that it's free to park your motorbikes at uni so this is the main reason why i am planning to get one. I heard getting a learner is simple. Just have to pass the the basic handling skill test & pass the theory then i should be clean to ride the bike to uni with few conditions.

I never ride a motorbike before but i heard that they teach you how to ride a bike at the basic handling skill test before taking the actual test.

Basically i just want some advice if it's a good idea to get one. My parents told me that bikes are very dangerous to ride especially on the motorway,etc.

Cheers

Firstly, getting a bike is a fine idea. Second, should you choose to maintain contact on this site you will find a range of commentators; some of whom are both sane and hold reasonable views...Ixion is NOT one of those.

Next. Bike size and purchase options. You realise you will be limited to 250CC's. Quite why is a matter yet to be revealed by those who know best, since a performance 250CC bike, hitting something solid at 150K's results in much the same mess as a similar hit on a 600cc bike.

However, limited you are.

Buying second hand, with your zero experience is probably not a great option. Ergo, you could end up with a 250 with some serious sting requiring significant rider skill.

Tame 250's are a good option. The Yamaha 225 Scorpio is a great little bike. It has a bit of zip, but not so much as to cause you learner grief. It also has really good mirrors, which many smaller bikes do not.

Next. To get a L licence is easy. Most bike shops will direct you to guys who do these primary tests, normally on a Sunday morning. If you can ride a pedal bike you can pass this test.

Next. Email Peggy Oneal....peggy.oneal@xtra.co.nz. She's the organiser behind rider training days at Whenuapai air-base. Held every 3rd Sunday of the month. Excellent course.

Next. As soon as you get your bike, ride it, and ride it, and ride it till your arse can ride no more, then ride it some more. You'll soon become quite competent.

Next. While riding keep your mind entirely on the job but keep a log-book and record as much as you see (and can remember) during each ride.

There will be times when dumbarses in cars do silly things. Log what you see, then, at night, just before you go to sleep, spend ten minutes visualising and incident. Take yourself closer to the incident, to the point where you might get involved had you not taken evasive action. That way you start to log on auto-responses to future, similar incidents.

And believe me, they are fairly limited in number and type.

Favourite catchers of unwary bikers are, but not limited to:- Cagers (car/bus/truck/taxi/etc) drivers doing a U-turn right in front of you. Failing to notice you as they pull out of a side-street. Changing lanes without looking in their mirrors. Backing out of, or pulling out of driveways...especially near round-abouts. Failing to notice you on a round-about.

All of these things you WILL experience, sooner or later. The trick is to develop and auto-response plan in your mind before they happen. That way you will react rather than have to think about a response.

As time passes, and you experience many of the above, you will get to join the 'Ten' club. You get there on the day the tenth idiot in a cage, which didn't quite hit you, or your didn't quite hit (cos you had a mind-plan) say, 'Jesus! Sorry mate! I JUST DIDN'T SEE YOU.'

Safety Gear. This issue can take a thousand pages. Full leathers, racing gloves, and racing boots offer the greatest protection, but they're an A-grade pain in the arse when you are using your bike to commute. You have to allow quite some time to get into and out of them, and then, during the day you have to store them somewhere. But, by heavens, you will look real flash when all togged up. A definite girl-puller...till you are forced to admit you are not Valentino Rossi, and your bike is...well...rather small, really.

Your top-half has all the most fragile working bits in it and your hands and feet are fragile. And so, the best and most convenient rig is good old leather work boots, jeans, a leather jacket (easily stored) which will have elbow padding. A good pair of Quasimoto race-gloves. In this rig you get to Uni, divest yourself of the leather jacket, the gloves, and helmet, and go about your day.

Lastly. Get a bike, buddy. Bikes rock, and riding one is nowhere near as dangerous as the ignorant would wish to have you believe.

[StoneY]

Get a bike, buddy. Bikes rock, and riding one is nowhere near as dangerous as the ignorant would wish to have you believe.

Agree with all you said but especially this bit :yes:

[Pedrostt500]

Ok welcome to KB, now let me kick you up the Arse twice, first what the fuck were you thinking when you chose that name, secondly 18 yr old twat that drives a sky line then thinks it would be cheaper to get a bike, FFS book in with a funeral director, then kiss ya family and friends good by.

Now if you want to live and have me remove my boot from your arse, buy yourself a cheap trail bike, and learn how to ride it, before you make yourself a grease mark on the tarmac, ride your dirt bike for at least 6 months, before doing basics skills, its a softer landing in the dirt, and a lot of skills cross over to the road riding, once you have done your basics get a Suzuki GN 250, get an older one with spoked wheels they are Jap made against the later chinese junkers, cheap to run cheap to fix, and a good platform to learn some basic bike maintenance on, this will save you some money in the long run, keep the GN for at least a year before trading up to something better, make use of the KB mentors, good blokes and blokesess.
There are worse things than death, one is knowing every thing you know now, but being a complete vegtable for the next 30 yrs and having ya mum have to wipe ya bum every day of that 30 yrs.

[enigma51]

and a perm!

Your looking awesome ladies :blink:

[modboy]

I agree 200% with Pedro, trail bike, around 125cc - ride it for a year. Fall off it, bash it up, hurt yourself (but live) and learn how to survive on a bike. If that's not possible - first take out a good insurance policy and then...

Get a scooter... One that does 100k with the wind behind you, absolute max. Ride it on the road for 2 years minimum.

Get some decent protective gear so that when you fall off it you won't have to have your legs amputated.

Spend more money on your helmet than your scooter (but only if you consider your brain more important than your bike)

Come to a (very fast) realisation that you cannot behave on the road on a bike, like you can in your boy racer cage.

Any attitude that a Nissan Skyline instilled in you - you're gonna have to lose very fast. Otherwise your wife and family will be crying over your coffin, pretty soon.

Finally - believe what everyone here is saying to you.

Having said all that - if you are careful and do what everyone recommends, your life will change and you'll love that change.

Be careful bro.

[StoneY]

Any attitude that a Nissan Skyline instilled in you - you're gonna have to lose very fast. Otherwise your wife and family will be crying over your coffin, pretty soon.

Finally - believe what everyone here is saying to you.

Having said all that - if you are careful and do what everyone recommends, your life will change and you'll love that change.

Be careful bro.

Also very true- amen

[Metalor]

Firstly, create a new account with a better user name than "I Love My Wife"... seriously, what the fuck is with that?


Don't listen to these nanas saying "oh, do this shit for 2 years.. blah blah blah." That's just not reasonable.

Just get a good learners bike, don't go buying brand new cos chances are you're going to drop it at some stage of the game, just get a good reliable 250 (not a 2 stroke!) and get someone to teach you the basics and maybe take a couple of skill developing courses.

[Boob Johnson]

6 strikes. You're going to die. Your parents are right. Every reason you have listed is the wrong reason.

No, it's not a good idea. Unless you have a very large insurance policy with me as the beneficiary.

Forget it.
LMFAO!!! As funny as Ixion's post is there is some truth to that, but seeing as you are 18 you will highly likely ignore his advice. Hell I know I would of at your age :laugh:

Do take what he has said into consideration though (ie: take it easy) if you have your heart set on this motorcycling thing. Tis a terribly dangerous pass time where a simple mistake can easily cost your life or life long disabilities, this I can speak of from first hand experience & it was a cage drivers mistake not mine.

I'm not saying don't do it obviously, just saying keep ya wits about you, do lots of reading, attend courses etc & don't become a statistic.



Worst name for a biker site ever.
Since he is 18, im gunna take a wild stab & suggest he isn't married & the name is rather tongue n cheek :shifty:

[2wheeldrifter]

Firstly, create a new account with a better user name than "I Love My Wife"... seriously, what the fuck is with that?


What 18year old uni student "love's his wife"?!........ only a

GAY one


:laugh:

[TOTO]

AMEN to dpex

Quality advice man.

[DIN PELENDA]

What 18year old uni student "love's his wife"?!........ only a

GAY one


:laugh:

2'nd that!::shutup:

[smoky]

6 strikes. You're going to die. Your parents are right. Every reason you have listed is the wrong reason.
No, it's not a good idea.
Forget it.

Actually I have to agree with his sentiment, I've never met you of course, but based on what you posted I would suggest you don't get one, you fit the high risk demographic
You have to have certain respect for a bike first, just buying one because it's convenient - is an attitude that may set you up to fail
Generalising of course - but I just get the feeling it wouldn't be a good idea

Hope I'm wrong

[CookMySock]

Ignore the knockers, and go buy a modern learner bike, bro. Get a learner license. Put an L plate on it and take it off again after a month.

Go see RM and get him to show you how to operate the controls, and do some carkpark work on it for a few hours. For gods sake dont hit anything.

Stay off the motorways for at least a month, after that you will be fine.


Steve

[Edbear]

Ignore the knockers, and go buy a modern learner bike, bro. Get a learner license. Put an L plate on it and take it off again after a month.

Go see RM and get him to show you how to operate the controls, and do some carkpark work on it for a few hours. For gods sake dont hit anything.

Stay off the motorways for at least a month, after that you will be fine.


Steve

Pretty much wot 'e sed, really. Welcome to KB's trial by fire - you have been exposed to all the different types in one thread, well done!

By now you should have sifted through and taken note of those whom you appreciate the advice from. Don't be put off posting by the negatives, there are plenty of people here who can offer good advice.

I think Qkchk is a riding instructor as well, so do get some instruction, it will save your skin.

[Headbanger]

Ignore the knockers, and go buy a modern learner bike, bro. Get a learner license. Put an L plate on it and take it off again after a month.

Go see RM and get him to show you how to operate the controls, and do some carkpark work on it for a few hours. For gods sake dont hit anything.

Stay off the motorways for at least a month, after that you will be fine.


Steve

Yeah, what he said indeed, Though it kills me somewhere deep inside to say so.

It doesn't matter what reasoning introduces you to bikes, or your depth of enjoyment/reason for riding. Do what works for you and fuck everybody else.

Great user name btw.

[Mikkel]

Troll.....

[Insanity_rules]

Welcome to the looney bin! Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some of them stink! That said here's mine............Get someone to take you to a nice empty carpark with an old beater bike and have a go to see if you like it first. If you do then get someone to teach you. Stating the obvious motorcycles are dangerous but then again so are cocker spaniels, as long as you know what your geting into and educate yourself then it lowers the risk.

Oh and before you buy your next sweater ask yourself "Do I own enough leather?"

[I_Love_My_Wife]

Thank you very much for your help~!

[marty]

here's a good one:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=105792

[koba]

Any attitude that a Nissan Skyline instilled in you - you're gonna have to lose very fast. Otherwise your wife and family will be crying over your coffin, pretty soon.

You must be in a gang with a triumph then...

[sinned]

I won't be able to drive to uni with 50cc moped since i have to pass the motorway. Hmm..
"- drive" to Uni? wrong wrong wrong. Never ridden a bike - you have missed out on a great experience but it may not be for you.


yeah Ixion is scarying me
I hope so - he has good reason.


Firstly, getting a bike is a fine idea. Second, should you choose to maintain contact on this site you will find a range of commentators; some of whom are both sane and hold reasonable views...Ixion is NOT one of those.

Lastly. Get a bike, buddy. Bikes rock, and riding one is nowhere near as dangerous as the ignorant would wish to have you believe.
Who are the ignorant? the stats are very clear - motorcycle riding is dangerous and I_Love_My_Wife is in the demographic most at risk.

Ixion's view seems sane and very reasonable. Also a very good post :done:


Thank you very much for your help~!
WTF

Why not ask if a KBr in your area can take you for a ride - then at least you will know if a motorcycle is for you.

[chef]

I agree 200% with Pedro, trail bike, around 125cc - ride it for a year. Fall off it, bash it up, hurt yourself (but live) and learn how to survive on a bike. If that's not possible - first take out a good insurance policy and then...

Get a scooter... One that does 100k with the wind behind you, absolute max. Ride it on the road for 2 years minimum.

Get some decent protective gear so that when you fall off it you won't have to have your legs amputated.

Spend more money on your helmet than your scooter (but only if you consider your brain more important than your bike)

Come to a (very fast) realisation that you cannot behave on the road on a bike, like you can in your boy racer cage.

Any attitude that a Nissan Skyline instilled in you - you're gonna have to lose very fast. Otherwise your wife and family will be crying over your coffin, pretty soon.

Finally - believe what everyone here is saying to you.

Having said all that - if you are careful and do what everyone recommends, your life will change and you'll love that change.

Be careful bro.

i dono... its not like its brain surgery to ride a bike i went from 0 experience to riding my hyofighter like ive got years of it. could be natural for some..allthough i did ride a 4 wheeler on the beach when i was younger...

[chef]

also do you really have a wife at 18?...and actually love her? didnt know love was possible at 18 lol only ..lust

[Whynot]

i dono... its not like its brain surgery to ride a bike i went from 0 experience to riding my hyofighter like ive got years of it.

shit man, you must be awesome ... can you teach me sometime ??

[chef]

sure...but only if you suck my penis first :niceone:

[YellowDog]

also do you really have a wife at 18?...and actually love her? didnt know love was possible at 18 lol only ..lust

Nice name 'I Love my Wife'.

We'd all like to love your wife :)

[madbikeboy]

Yeah, what he said indeed, Though it kills me somewhere deep inside to say so.

It doesn't matter what reasoning introduces you to bikes, or your depth of enjoyment/reason for riding. Do what works for you and fuck everybody else.

Great user name btw.

I'm flat out fucking astounded that someone agreed with DB?!?


I'd rather cut off my balls than not ride something. Get the bike, if you end up as road kill, mentally picture the succession of guys who will get to love your wife :love:

[Sammy12]

Its cheaper to take the bus than ride a bike!
That said... U wouldnt catch me on a bus in a million years :p

[Sammy12]

. Put an L plate on it and take it off again after a month.


Is a $400 fine worth the risk of taking a platic L plate off??

[SARGE]

We'd all like to love your wife :)

SOMEONE HADDA SAY IT ...:done:

[chef]

Is a $400 fine worth the risk of taking a platic L plate off??

ofcourse unless you want to look like a loser and get over taken, cut off, and tormented by boy racers lol

[Sammy12]

ofcourse unless you want to look like a loser and get over taken, cut off, and tormented by boy racers lol

Or you sit at the red traffic light next to them.. and floor it as soon as it goes green.. :D

[chef]

Or you sit at the red traffic light next to them.. and floor it as soon as it goes green.. :D

and get owned from a truck failing to stop at a red light ha

[Sammy12]

and get owned from a truck failing to stop at a red light ha

Not if you open your eyes before taking off like a rocket! :p

[Ladydragon]

hey people! I just joined the forum today to ask you some advice on getting a new motorbike.

I am a 18 years old student at university of auckland living in north shore, beach haven. I currently drive a nissan skyline 1989 with full licence. I normally drive to uni and the parking fee cost too much and i don't want to take the bus.

I found out today that it's free to park your motorbikes at uni so this is the main reason why i am planning to get one. I heard getting a learner is simple. Just have to pass the the basic handling skill test & pass the theory then i should be clean to ride the bike to uni with few conditions.

I never ride a motorbike before but i heard that they teach you how to ride a bike at the basic handling skill test before taking the actual test.

Basically i just want some advice if it's a good idea to get one. My parents told me that bikes are very dangerous to ride especially on the motorway,etc.

Cheers
:Punk:Welcome to Kiwi Biker see you just joined the other day.At the moment i'm just studying for my bike license too there is a women on KB her log in name is Qkchk she is a Approved Motor Cycle Intructor if you get in touch with her she teaches all the Basic Handling Skills Test etc.I've spoken to alot of friends on KB and have told me shes a really good rider and the women to talk to if you are looking into getting your bike license.I have to ask you this question but are you only getting your bike license so you don't have to pay for parking at Uni?Because once you are on that bike you have to be soo alert of everything.When i'm going to buy my bike I will be going to Red Baron they are very helpful people there my partner has got two bikes from there so we know them quite well.I noticed in your thread last night that you were asking for help to know what sort of 250 bike to buy i've spoken to my partner he is Madmax on Kiwi Biker if you send him a message about asking what first bike to buy he said he would be happy to suggust a bike for you he has been riding for years so hes very experianced.I've got him helping me and showing how to ride and i'm on the back of his bike learning what way to lean when turning etc.Anyway I hope this is a bit of help i've written to you if you are going to write back to me please do not pm me as I cant pm back I havn't done enough posts yet.

From Nina

[snuffles]

Have you just about given up yet????

I would

[Sammy12]

Im sorry, Ladydragon... how can you learn to ride a bike, by being a pillion???
Ive been countless pillions... and fail to see how "learning how to lean the right way".. is helping how to ride a bike of your own!

[Sammy12]

I_love_my_wife...
Dont buy a bike untill you've sat on atleast 5 different ones. Whatever feel comfy and not to heavy is the one to go for!
Shop around for the best price, you may find buying privately is the way to go, instead of through a dealer... if you do buy privately, get it checked out by a bikie, so you know your not buying a duff!
:D