So the police don't care?

[chrispy121]

after targeted approach from police on Motorcyclist claiming it is for safety I was travelling dwon kyber pass road on Saturday afternoon turning right on to the motorway south there is two lanes here and I was in the left lane I stopped at the lights and there was a vehicle next to me in the right hand lane.
when the lights turned green I preceeded turning into my left hand lane when the car in the right hand lane decided it would too I was forced over and managed to just miss the kerb. when I looked at the driver he was laughing and when I used my horn he gave me the finger and started swerving over the two lanes to block me.

I rang the police only to be told they were too busy to deal with this after some investigation I searched on the number plate to find the car was unregistered so I rang to police back they didnt care and didnt want to deal with it.

So to summarise
motorcyclists are at risk
if we speed or do anything we are dangerous
but
a unregistered car deliberately running a bike off the road no problem.

[duckonin]

after targeted approach from police on Motorcyclist claiming it is for safety I was travelling dwon kyber pass road on Saturday afternoon turning right on to the motorway south there is two lanes here and I was in the left lane I stopped at the lights and there was a vehicle next to me in the right hand lane.
when the lights turned green I preceeded turning into my left hand lane when the car in the right hand lane decided it would too I was forced over and managed to just miss the kerb. when I looked at the driver he was laughing and when I used my horn he gave me the finger and started swerving over the two lanes to block me.

I rang the police only to be told they were too busy to deal with this after some investigation I searched on the number plate to find the car was unregistered so I rang to police back they didnt care and didnt want to deal with it.

So to summarise
motorcyclists are at risk
if we speed or do anything we are dangerous
but
a unregistered car deliberately running a bike off the road no problem.

Go to the:Police: police station put it on paper, then they must investigate the complaint, sure it may take months but still they have to follow it up, it is up to you...

[James Deuce]

Well duh. Now you know and can plan accordingly.

[AllanB]

Some people are just born dumb-struck-fuckwits.

Best to avoid them completely in your life.

Chalk it down as you "won" (no damage or injury) and don't waste anymore of your life on the arse-hole.

As for the police - they probably get calls like this every 30 minutes. Your call will be logged somewhere and may be useful in the future. Seriously mate they have so much shit to deal with on a daily basis.

When I was young I wanted to be a police officer. Mind you 30 plus years ago they were actually respected by the community. Wouldn't want to be one now days.

Apart from New Years - lots of kisses from young girls :love:

But I digress - good to see you survived this wank-stains stupidity - Karma will get him long term.

[mynameis]

Welcome to the real world of motorcycling :)

Why didn't you break his mirrors and did a runner :lol:

[HenryDorsetCase]

after targeted approach from police on Motorcyclist claiming it is for safety I was travelling dwon kyber pass road on Saturday afternoon turning right on to the motorway south there is two lanes here and I was in the left lane I stopped at the lights and there was a vehicle next to me in the right hand lane.
when the lights turned green I preceeded turning into my left hand lane when the car in the right hand lane decided it would too I was forced over and managed to just miss the kerb. when I looked at the driver he was laughing and when I used my horn he gave me the finger and started swerving over the two lanes to block me.

I rang the police only to be told they were too busy to deal with this after some investigation I searched on the number plate to find the car was unregistered so I rang to police back they didnt care and didnt want to deal with it.

So to summarise
motorcyclists are at risk
if we speed or do anything we are dangerous
but
a unregistered car deliberately running a bike off the road no problem.

well if you are really concerned, track them down yourself and stab them in the face. bit of street justice.

thats a joke by the way, but honestly, what do you expect? Every time you ride on the road you should expect this from every other vehicle on the road. that way when 9 out of 10 DONT actively or thru inattention try and kill you, you're having a good day. There is always that ten percent who live up to expectation, and you should be ready for them because you're expecting that behaviour.

Expecting good, sensible, polite, rational conduct from NZ drivers is misguided at best, and fatal at worst. The motherfuckers ARE trying to kill you, its that simple.

I mean really.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some people are just born dumb-struck-fuckwits.

Best to avoid them completely in your life.

Chalk it down as you "won" (no damage or injury) and don't waste anymore of your life on the arse-hole.

As for the police - they probably get calls like this every 30 minutes. Your call will be logged somewhere and may be useful in the future. Seriously mate they have so much shit to deal with on a daily basis.

When I was young I wanted to be a police officer. Mind you 30 plus years ago they were actually respected by the community. Wouldn't want to be one now days.

Apart from New Years - lots of kisses from young girls :love:

But I digress - good to see you survived this wank-stains stupidity - Karma will get him long term.

I would if they were properly equipped. ballistic vests, Glocks, shotguns and carte blanche on fuckwits.

[p.dath]

I've never had much luck ringing the Police in the past, so now I don't bother.

The person you are reporting usually gets nothing more than a letter - assuming the Police don't actually attend.

All in all, don't involve the Police in minor incidents. Mostly because it gets you worked up about seeing people in the wrong get away with it.


So ignore it, enjoy life, and laugh at the fact that karma will probably return and give out its own lesson.

[James Deuce]

So ignore it, enjoy life, and laugh at the fact that karma will probably return and give out its own lesson.

I try not to mix superstition and certainty in sentences. Lesson implies the ability to be educated.

Rather than relying on people learning from their mistakes and imaginary friends dishing out retribution, get good at this sort of thing: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129360495&postcount=1

[yungatart]

The police do care!
Why just the other day they stopped my son who was driving around in my Holden S/W. Apparently a young guy in a car like that with music blaring is very suspicious....they cared enough to check that he hadn't stolen it.....

[boomer]

Welcome to the real world of motorcycling :)

Why didn't you break his mirrors and did a runner :lol:



were you outside 250metres of discretion?

[swbarnett]

Expecting good, sensible, polite, rational conduct from NZ drivers is misguided at best, and fatal at worst. The motherfuckers ARE trying to kill you, its that simple.
You tend to get what you expect. I always expect "good, sensible, polite, rational conduct from NZ drivers" (or anyone else for that matter). This way I tend to get more of it. However, I do accept the fact that, although I expect it I won't always get it. This prepares me for when shit happens and makes it easier to let it go afterwards (once the adrenalin dies down).

[peasea]

The police do care!
Why just the other day they stopped my son who was driving around in my Holden S/W. Apparently a young guy in a car like that with music blaring is very suspicious....they cared enough to check that he hadn't stolen it.....

A while back I had the opportunity to peruse a police info' sheet that had all the checks that been made on my previous bikes' rego. There were quite a few and I was told (dunno how true it is coz a cop told me this...) that the rego was checked by police while cruising, even without pulling me over, just to check to see if it was stolen.

If this IS true than I reckon they're doing their job. Odd as that may seem.

[peasea]

You tend to get what you expect. I always expect "good, sensible, polite, rational conduct from NZ drivers" (or anyone else for that matter). This way I tend to get more of it. However, I do accept the fact that, although I expect it I won't always get it. This prepares me for when shit happens and makes it easier to let it go afterwards (once the adrenalin dies down).

A bit like sex? (Only without the shit, hopefully.)

[The Stranger]

when the lights turned green I preceeded turning into my left hand lane when the car in the right hand lane decided it would too I was forced over and managed to just miss the kerb. when I looked at the driver he was laughing and when I used my horn he gave me the finger and started swerving over the two lanes to block me.



This was your introduction to "I didn't see you".

[SMOKEU]

Most of the time comms don't give a fuck when people call *555 unless it involves a RWD Nissan doing skids or drifting.

[SixPackBack]

This was your introduction to "I didn't see you".

......And your introduction to the pathetic police attitude...

[Felicks]

Go to the:Police: police station put it on paper, then they must investigate the complaint, sure it may take months but still they have to follow it up, it is up to you...

To clarify that somewhat, in Chch (I don't know about other places) the complaint form has a section where the informant indicates weather they are prepared to go to court if necessary OR whether they just want the bad guy warned.

Thats taken into consideration about how to deal with the complaint. Ultimately in some cases even if the informant is prepared to go to court, it may not get that far.

Despite all the bagging that goes on about 'Police don't care' - thats not it. The real reason (whether you want to hear it or not), is resourcing. There are simply far to many complaints for a limited number of staff to follow up. And those complaints vary from some idiot parking over a driveway right through to almost or in some cases cases, actually killing people.

The complaints have to be prioritised unfortunately and always will be. The more serious ones have to get the oil obviously. And the informants for those which aren't followed up, feel agrieved - and rightly so - hell I would too. But it is NOT because the Police don't care.

[SixPackBack]

To clarify that somewhat, in Chch (I don't know about other places) the complaint form has a section where the informant indicates weather they are prepared to go to court if necessary OR whether they just want the bad guy warned.

Thats taken into consideration about how to deal with the complaint. Ultimately in some cases even if the informant is prepared to go to court, it may not get that far.

Despite all the bagging that goes on about 'Police don't care' - thats not it. The real reason (whether you want to hear it or not), is resourcing. There are simply far to many complaints for a limited number of staff to follow up. And those complaints vary from some idiot parking over a driveway right through to almost or in some cases cases, actually killing people.

The complaints have to be prioritised unfortunately and always will be. The more serious ones have to get the oil obviously. And the informants for those which aren't followed up, feel agrieved - and rightly so - hell I would too. But it is NOT because the Police don't care.

Bet you do stand-up comedy every saturday night:sunny:......Hell I'd pay to see you with a routine like that.

[NDORFN]

Being on a bike, you could've stopped to pick up something capable of breaking a windscreen and easily caught up to him.

[Felicks]

Bet you do stand-up comedy every saturday night:sunny:......Hell I'd pay to see you with a routine like that.


...I did say, not everyone would want to hear that...:msn-wink:

[SARGE]

after targeted approach from police on Motorcyclist claiming it is for safety I was travelling dwon kyber pass road on Saturday afternoon turning right on to the motorway south there is two lanes here and I was in the left lane I stopped at the lights and there was a vehicle next to me in the right hand lane.
when the lights turned green I preceeded turning into my left hand lane when the car in the right hand lane decided it would too I was forced over and managed to just miss the kerb. when I looked at the driver he was laughing and when I used my horn he gave me the finger and started swerving over the two lanes to block me.

I rang the police only to be told they were too busy to deal with this after some investigation I searched on the number plate to find the car was unregistered so I rang to police back they didnt care and didnt want to deal with it.

So to summarise
motorcyclists are at risk
if we speed or do anything we are dangerous
but
a unregistered car deliberately running a bike off the road no problem.

post a rego and model..i drive up that road daily..i'll keep a lookout

[SARGE]

To clarify that somewhat, in Chch (I don't know about other places) the complaint form has a section where the informant indicates weather they are prepared to go to court if necessary OR whether they just want the bad guy warned.

Thats taken into consideration about how to deal with the complaint. Ultimately in some cases even if the informant is prepared to go to court, it may not get that far.

Despite all the bagging that goes on about 'Police don't care' - thats not it. The real reason (whether you want to hear it or not), is resourcing. There are simply far to many complaints for a limited number of staff to follow up. And those complaints vary from some idiot parking over a driveway right through to almost or in some cases cases, actually killing people.

The complaints have to be prioritised unfortunately and always will be. The more serious ones have to get the oil obviously. And the informants for those which aren't followed up, feel agrieved - and rightly so - hell I would too. But it is NOT because the Police don't care.

so if we stopped paying for asshole breeders and John Key & Co to get their panties washed maybe we could spend it on proper police resourcing?

good luck with that..

[Ixion]

A sidelight on the resourcing question :

In 1940 New Zealand had 1458 cops, of all ranks. For a population of about 1.6 million, one cop per 1126 people.

Now we have something a bit over 9000 cops (from memory - open to correction) , and a population of a bit over 4 million , around one cop to 444 people. So, we have about twice as many cops per head of population as in 1940

Was the country better policed in 1940, with half as many cops per head? I'm inclined to say, 'Yes' , but that may be rose tinted spectacles.

Certainly more cops (every government in recent times as added more ) doesn't seem to translate through into improved law keeping.

Nothing special about the year 1940 BTW, just ahppen to have figures for it . The cost to the taxpayer, per head for policing then was 7s 8 1/2d BTW.

[humphrt]

This was your introduction to "I didn't see you".

Wrong this is his intro to "I dont want to see you, and will act like a plonker when you get out of my way"

[The Stranger]

Wrong this is his intro to "I dont want to see you, and will act like a plonker when you get out of my way"

Well that may well be, however, they never say that after the accident do they.

[batboy]

mmm today walking in town i witness a cop car sitting at the lights on Gasson st going up to madras st, on the morehouse intersection. Two cops in the car right at the fron of the waiting traffic with a clear view of the entire intersection.
As i waited there to cross every single car that turned into madras st from morehouse DID NOT turn into their own lane...not one of the probably 10 or 15 that turned....and guess what the cops did nothing...not a thing just sat there?

So i agree with SMOKEU too, if its not to do with boys racers they dont give a shit. There is another thread on here about south island police and their wank tactics.

Now i had the chance the other week to talk to two of christchurchs bike cops, and they were the most stand up, upfront and honest fellas i have met, both ride in their own time, and they really made me change my opinion of police...but seeing this today just took it back to square one

[Toaster]

A sidelight on the resourcing question :

In 1940 New Zealand had 1458 cops, of all ranks. For a population of about 1.6 million, one cop per 1126 people.

Now we have something a bit over 9000 cops (from memory - open to correction) , and a population of a bit over 4 million , around one cop to 444 people. So, we have about twice as many cops per head of population as in 1940

Was the country better policed in 1940, with half as many cops per head? I'm inclined to say, 'Yes' , but that may be rose tinted spectacles.

Certainly more cops (every government in recent times as added more ) doesn't seem to translate through into improved law keeping.

Nothing special about the year 1940 BTW, just ahppen to have figures for it . The cost to the taxpayer, per head for policing then was 7s 8 1/2d BTW.

Its the ratio of actual frontline police to population that I suggest is more relevant.

The boys (and girls) in blue are fairly top heavy nowdays.

[SixPackBack]

Its the ratio of actual frontline police to population that I suggest is more relevant.

The boys (and girls) in blue are fairly top heavy nowdays.

Fat coonts you mean?......yeah I noticed that!

[The Stranger]

As i waited there to cross every single car that turned into madras st from morehouse DID NOT turn into their own lane...not one of the probably 10 or 15 that turned....and guess what the cops did nothing...not a thing just sat there?



But the important thing is, were any of them speeding, or driving a nissan with a drain pipe exhaust?

[Devil]

Multiple turning lanes at at intersection are my the most likely place to find a dumb cunt. People just cant get their head around (or give a shit about) turning into the correct lane.

[thepom]

I,m with stabbing him in the face but I mean it.......:2guns:

[Felicks]

mmm today walking in town i witness a cop car sitting at the lights on Gasson st going up to madras st, on the morehouse intersection. Two cops in the car right at the fron of the waiting traffic with a clear view of the entire intersection.
As i waited there to cross every single car that turned into madras st from morehouse DID NOT turn into their own lane...not one of the probably 10 or 15 that turned....and guess what the cops did nothing...not a thing just sat there?

So i agree with SMOKEU too, if its not to do with boys racers they dont give a shit. There is another thread on here about south island police and their wank tactics.

Now i had the chance the other week to talk to two of christchurchs bike cops, and they were the most stand up, upfront and honest fellas i have met, both ride in their own time, and they really made me change my opinion of police...but seeing this today just took it back to square one

Yep and I happen to ride with one of them too.

Its funny you should mention the "turning into an unavilablable lane" thing. It is amazing how many people break that rule and how many don't even know it exists! Well thats what they often say when stopped anyway.

The rule has been there for as long as I've had a licence - 25 odd years. I bet there are people reading this that may be scratching their heads trying to figure out exactly what rule you are talking about.

Yep, the cops could have stopped one of those cars (they certainly couldn't have stopped all 10 - 15). They could have ticketed him (and possibly have got the usual corresponding moans from the recipient..or this forum), or warned him/her.

The other 9 or 14 would still be totally unaware, ignorant of what they have just done.

Aside from periodic licence retesting or advertising, I'm thinking the message is never going to get through..:no:

Quite honestly, if Police stopped every motorist that they saw doing something wrong, it would take them about 2 hours just to drive the length of Moorhouse Ave. They'd never get anywhere - ie get to deal with decent criminal offences or the 'rapists and murderers' which is the phrase often thrown at Police by the public when doing traffic work.

[SixPackBack]

............... I'm thinking the message is never going to get through..:no:

Agreed. Not matter how bad the force gets, no matter how much folk distrust them or see them as glorified tax collectors, no matter how many end up in prison or are thrown out of the force the message never gets through......

[PrincessBandit]

A sidelight on the resourcing question :

In 1940 New Zealand had 1458 cops, of all ranks. For a population of about 1.6 million, one cop per 1126 people.....

Nothing special about the year 1940 BTW, just ahppen to have figures for it . The cost to the taxpayer, per head for policing then was 7s 8 1/2d BTW.

It would be interesting to know the facts and figures for the crime stats back from 1940. I somehow suspect that back then the Police faced a considerably less stressful job than they do now. Sure there was still "serious" crime but not on anywhere near the same scale and frequency there is today. We might have more personnel in the Police dept now but if a scale were to be devised rating police numbers with severity and frequency of hard core crime my guess is that they're still under-resourced to cope with what they face on a day to day basis.



Multiple turning lanes at at intersection are my the most likely place to find a dumb cunt. People just cant get their head around (or give a shit about) turning into the correct lane.

Yeah, they make me super wary when I'm on the bike. Even in the car I'm paranoid about making sure I stay in the lane I'm supposed to so that I don't create chaos on the road.

What always gets me though about rude road users (of any mode of transport) are those who cause problems then get aggro when you react to their actions.

[Felicks]

....What always gets me though about rude road users (of any mode of transport) are those who cause problems then get aggro when you react to their actions.

...you should see the looks on their faces when a police car "cuts them off" (or so they think) when he's turning into the correct lane. Its priceless! :laugh:

[James Deuce]

...you should see the looks on their faces when a police car "cuts them off" (or so they think) when he's turning into the correct lane. Its priceless! :laugh:

I've not seen that. Most of the police vehicles around appear to use the standard approved practice of turning into the incorrect lane most often.

It's the look on my face when I turn into the correct lane and get abused by some mouth breathing twat that's priceless.