Rimutaka Hill - fully double-yellow lined! %$#@n Pricks!

[MD]

Just got a call from a Friend driving over the Rimutaka Hill this morning. They are in the process of painting continuous double yellows from top to bottom. he said they are doing the Feathers side at the moment but from he's seen it's an unbroken double most of the way. No doubt they will do both sides. :mad:

Absolutely over the top knee jerk reaction. How often has anyone heard of a head on accident up there? Not me. Yeah, bikes and cars do have close calls when overtaking at times but that's to be expected on such a twisty road. It's not causing carnage to warrant such a heavy hand.

Just be aware, cars can now dub us in for overtaking, no matter how safe a bike can zip passed a car.

One slow vehicle and it's a long boring trip.

What's the fine & demerits for overtaking on yellows?

A sad day for Wellington.
:crybaby:

[Trudes]

Well that sucks!! You occasionally come across a nice person who will pull left enough for you to squeeze past without having to cross the centre line (it costs them nothing really, it's not like they end up getting stuck behind you because you pass them and then crawl along....) but they are normally few and far between. Talk about take all the fun out of it! Almost time to trade the road bike in on a track bike I think.

[Hitcher]

It's not The Fuzz(TM) that I fear on this. It's the *555 cellphone brigade. Sigh.

Perhaps NZTA needs to come up with another colour for no passing lines that show it's OK for bikes but not for cars and larger vehicles...

[MSTRS]

It's not The Fuzz(TM) that I fear on this. It's the *555 cellphone brigade. Sigh.

Not the big problem you think, based on personal experience...dialling end, that is.


Perhaps NZTA needs to come up with another colour for no passing lines that show it's OK for bikes but not for cars and larger vehicles...
Now that is a brilliant idea. Snowball in hell though....

[James Deuce]

Don't cross the double yellows when you overtake and you're fine.

Everyone buy a Stebel. When you hit a slow solo vehicle, tailgate and sit on the horn until they start crying and crash.

[nana_mac]

People of heavy vehicle's and cars have very little understanding of motor cycles and their size and what it takes to overtake distance wise, a lot less than any other road user. I myself have the respect after doing the ride for life as support driver with my son Zukin. I will always pull over were possible to allow your bikes to go on your merry way as there is nothing worse than to follow those diesel burning machines. No need for double yellow lines all the way over the hill. It has probably been decided by some office geek sitting behind a desk that has no idea of what the hill is like. This will cause more accidents than the very few that have been reported in the past.

[CookMySock]

It's not The Fuzz(TM) that I fear on this. It's the *555 cellphone brigade. Sigh.Nup. Don't worry about them.


Not the big problem you think, based on personal experience...dialling end, that is.Yup.

The fuzz will need at least 2 or 3 *555 calls AND written complaints from the public to make anything stick in court. If you get a letter or a phone call, just don't respond to it.

Steve

[atothek]

agree with James, stay within the double yellows and you will be fine.

*555 will be a thing of the past after november except for those with voice dialling (or a keen passenger)

[Hitcher]

Not the big problem you think, based on personal experience...dialling end, that is.

Now that is a brilliant idea. Snowball in hell though....

Pink, perhaps, for Honda riders?

[MSTRS]

agree with James, stay within the double yellows and you will be fine.

*555 will be a thing of the past after november except for those with voice dialling (or a keen passenger)Only if the driver isn't a centreline hugger...
And no, you are wrong. *555 and 111 calls exempt.


Pink, perhaps, for Honda riders?
A great idea, spoiled

[scracha]

Only if the driver isn't a centreline hugger...
And no, you are wrong. *555 and 111 calls exempt.
A great idea, spoiled

"You were using your mobile in the vehicle sir"
"Yes officer, but I was dialing *555...honest"

[xxcbr69xx]

I saw it last night, 50km Zone from the summit to twin bridges too while they carry this out.

It comes as no great surprise given some of the passing manouveres I've witnessed in the last few months and for a period of time this year there were bikes flinging themselves down the road with alarming frequency.

Shame thou, and I agree the other side will be next!

[bistard]

yes,I saw the double yellows yesterday when heading over the hill for work,this is just a complete FUCK UP,even in my company car the amount of times I get held up is crazy & the ignorant fuckers wont pull over & let a quicker vehicle past
Same as the Pauatahanui inlet road PC bullshit

[Badjelly]

...Yeah, bikes and cars do have close calls when overtaking at times but that's to be expected on such a twisty road....

Close calls are "only to be expected"? I'm feeling a bit Katmanish about that statement. Ah well, I suppose it will pass.

[Stormer]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[junkmanjoe]

it will be to do with the new road realinement dew to start this month.
be to slow traffic down.
its a 3 yr contract.

[oldrider]

:Oi: Don't most of the heavy trucks and big buses cross the centre line on a lot of the corners going over there? :nono:

Or have they fixed them too now? :confused:

[boomer]

the road is a race track, teh race line is now between teh moving vehicle and teh yellow line...


SIMPLE !

[MD]

Close calls are "only to be expected"? I'm feeling a bit Katmanish about that statement. Ah well, I suppose it will pass.

Let me explain my comment further. Bistards outrage hit the nail on the head.

Like many of our roads and the accidents that happen on them, it's not the winding or narrow road's fault, it's not the slow vehicles fault, it's not the faster vehicles fault - what causes many accidents is putting all three ingredients together at the same place and same time. That's what causes the close calls on the hill, vehicles trying to pass slower vehicles.

I have absolutely no problem with people who want to drive under the acceptable NZ speed flow of 120 kph (just fishing for bites). Drive as slow as you want, just do it on your own time, and don't force your chosen speed onto others.

Faster traffic doesn't 'force' slower traffic to keep up (we're a fair and reasonable bunch). But slow traffic (by definition selfish inconsiderate bastards) almost always insist that all those frustrated vehicles filling their mirror must slow down to their chosen walking pace.

Back to the hill. The Rapa attracts hordes of drivers of SUVs, 4WDs, trailers and trucks. There are many places where a bike can safely slip passed these 'nice people in nice vehicles' but few real passing lanes.

This yellow lining has overnight turned most Riders into crims. What gives the slowest denominator the right to dictate the speed of all vehicles behind them.

[Gremlin]

What's the fine & demerits for overtaking on yellows?
$150 and 35 demerits for each count... last time I knew :shutup:

Passing between car and yellow lines, legal, but some cops may still try to have you on.

[Hitcher]

$150 and 35 demerits for each count... last time I knew :shutup:

Passing between car and yellow lines, legal, but some cops may still try to have you on.

A cop is going to have their work cut out turning and then pursuing over the Rimutaka Hill road.

[Gremlin]

A cop is going to have their work cut out turning and then pursuing over the Rimutaka Hill road.
Or the cop could be on holiday in a private vehicle, you pass him, and he gets his wife to note down all the regos <_<

The first thing you even know of it, is when you receive the request for information letter :mellow:

[jimbo600]

Yep this is the way it going all over NZ. We all have to toe the line of the dumbest fucktard.

I go diving more than riding these days. Legislators and over zealous traffic police have ruined the spirit of riding on NZ roads. Add to that shithouse drivers who couldn't give a fuck about everyone else, assuming of course they actually realise that there are other road uses outside their little caged existence.

Seriously thinking of getting an offroader. Now they've gone and fucked the hill thats looking more and more like a sensible option.

RIP the hill.

[Deano]

it will be to do with the new road realinement dew to start this month.
be to slow traffic down.
its a 3 yr contract.

That was my thought too. But it could be a stealthy move to keep it there once the works are over.

I can see a lot of bikes with illegible number plates in future. I'm not condoning that but I can see it happening.

[Deano]

Seriously thinking of getting an offroader. Now they've gone and fucked the hill thats looking more and more like a sensible option.


Get a race bike and come and play !!

[MattRSK]

Somebody should get out there with a big roll of black building paper. Roll it out just around the corner from them over the center line and when they are done just roll it back up again. Problem solved.

They just roadies they wont know the difference between road and black paper.

[Paul in NZ]

Cor - the old trumpy will be pretty competitive over there now eh???

Bloody stupid waste of money....

[jimbo600]

Get a race bike and come and play !!

Now that's an even better idea.

[sugilite]

I'd hate to think of all those riders that would consider turning their plates around at the twin bridges......it might cause parking congestion..... :innocent:

[KoroJ]

Pink, perhaps, for Honda riders?

I'll subscribe to that!



The dropping of speed limits, proliferation of yellow lines and insertion of cheese cutters has been gripping my craw for some time.

The fact that in general, kiwi motorists are probably amongst the most arogant, ignorant bastards in the world may have something to do with it but it really sucks.

Maybe more biker protests are in order but the trouble with that is we'd just piss off the few cagers that do make room for us and like our token gesture against the WRB's, we would do it once then it would all be forgotten.

As for passing under this regime....how many of you have noticed the frequncy that cages make room for you on the hill compared to any other piece of road in the country? It drops from about 1 in 10 to 1 in 100!

I'm afraid we are doomed and that SH1 will soon be an attractive escape route from the Capital and a ride around the bays will soon be an exciting option........

....anyone for a coffee at Makara??

[madmal64]

Fucked a great piece of road now. Damn it.
Might have to move to Stratford. Good road from there.

[koba]

A cop is going to have their work cut out turning and then pursuing over the Rimutaka Hill road.

It's even harder work in recovery for the riders he may collect doing it.

[Meanie]

Two words "Paint stripper"

They did that to the manawatu gorge quite a while ago and wrecked an awesome piece of road
I love the idea of a different colour line for no passing with motor cycles being exempt, wont happen though

[I'm motarded]

Shit thats ball hair..... spoil sports

[merv]

What's so bad about this "penalise the many for the sake of the few" attitude is its not one I remember any of us voting on nor it being an election issue, so how come the roadies can just go and paint this stuff on? I suppose they'll tell me it was gazetted somewhere but even then I doubt there was ever a chance to object.

What a nanny state we live in and Finn's Prime Minister is letting this happen just like Finn's girlfriend Helen did.

The nice thing about dirt bikes is they don't paint yellow lines down gravel roads, but bugger they are sealing more and more of the roads and one day will there be a road rule that says its illegal to pass on the few gravel roads left which would be cheaper than using paint anyway.

[merv]

We should drum up a petition to get a referendum to ask the question "Should allowing motorcyclists to cross yellow lines to pass vehicles as part of good vehicle driver correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?"

How else can those drivers be taught a lesson and put in their place of knowing that they are too fricken slow?

[mossy1200]

The standard responce is I thought he was waving me past.Honest mistake.

Is the area between the two yellow lines a motorcycle lane or what?

[Sketchy_Racer]

How about, ignore the yellow lines and use common sense and pass anyway. Just make sure you aren't passing a cop.

Just because there is this yellow thing there now doesn't mean it's no longer safe to pass there..

[Hitcher]

Civil disobedience has much to commend it.

[Fatjim]

I guess we'll just have to ride faster so our plates aren't so easy to read.

[riffer]

How about, ignore the yellow lines and use common sense and pass anyway. Just make sure you aren't passing a cop.

Just because there is this yellow thing there now doesn't mean it's no longer safe to pass there..

As it works on Paremata Road. However, I've found now that because the cagers feel "safer" on that road now there's double yellows all the way along they avoid Grays Road like the plague.

Many times I've gone to work in the morning via Grays Road and seen maybe two cars along the whole road.

Any idea if the passing lanes are affected by this? I guess they will if they're putting a 50km/hr restriction on the whole road.

[Shadows]

How about, ignore the yellow lines and use common sense and pass anyway. Just make sure you aren't passing a cop.

Just because there is this yellow thing there now doesn't mean it's no longer safe to pass there..

Bang on. I don't know what all the fuss is about.

[oldrider]

Only place there will be no yellow lines soon is on the gravel but I bet they are working on that too!

National / Labour socialists just can't help playing "BIG GOVERNMENT", destroying freedom for the majority because of the misdemeanour's of a few!

New Zealand is fast becoming a socialist police state, government control of every bloody thing! :brick:

Ironic isn't it: The only difference between Clark and Key, is a real dick! :argh:

[Trudes]

How about, ignore the yellow lines and use common sense and pass anyway. Just make sure you aren't passing a cop.

Just because there is this yellow thing there now doesn't mean it's no longer safe to pass there..

I get your point, however there are two reasons I personally don't pass on yellow lines. Firstly it's against the law and usually for a good reason (in the case in point not, but still) and I'm a good girl. Secondly, people are sheep. My concern is that I see enough fuck knuckle wank nuts in cars overtaking on double yellows already without any of them seeing me on my bike doing it (as I can do it faster than they can and generally because we sit higher than the average car driver, and can see the road is clear) and thinking they can too and then wiping out an oncoming vehicle. Anyway, it's naughty.:spanking:

[Drum]

Bang on. I don't know what all the fuss is about.

I agree. It's only some yellow paint for christs sake. Make your own choices but don't come whinging about the consequences.

[Nasty]

I haven't seen anywhere in this thread that they are removing passing lanes ... after all the recent work I would think that would be a silly idea. Although, I have no issues passing cars on yellows, as long as I remain on the correct side of the yellows as dictated by the law.

[davebullet]

A cop is going to have their work cut out turning and then pursuing over the Rimutaka Hill road.

Not with a radio at hand....

[The Baron]

When redoing double yellows in the Wairarapa they have been making them "ribbed" (raised lines under the paint). Does anyone know if they have done this on the hill?

[sugilite]

When redoing double yellows in the Wairarapa they have been making them "ribbed" (raised lines under the paint). Does anyone know if they have done this on the hill?

Ohhhh I say, ribbed for our pleasure, not! <_<

[merv]

Only place there will be no yellow lines soon is on the gravel but I bet they are working on that too!

National / Labour socialists just can't help playing "BIG GOVERNMENT", destroying freedom for the majority because of the misdemeanour's of a few!

New Zealand is fast becoming a socialist police state, government control of every bloody thing! :brick:

Ironic isn't it: The only difference between Clark and Key, is a real dick! :argh:

Cripes OR you've just about repeated my sentiments with slightly different words - we must think alike :done:

[Deano]

It seems to me that they could just widen the road so trucks can go round the corners in their own lane and save a lot of money in the process. Carving through the rock to remove corners completely seems overkill IMO.

[Usarka]

Only if the driver isn't a centreline hugger...
And no, you are wrong. *555 and 111 calls exempt.



Where have they said *555 is exempt? I'd heard it was emergency calls only.....

[MSTRS]

Where have they said *555 is exempt? I'd heard it was emergency calls only.....

Been looking... http://landtransport.govt.nz/rules/q-and-a/road-user-amendment-rule-2009.html#1 ...and *555 could certainly be considered 'emergency', at least in some cases.

[Badjelly]

Only place there will be no yellow lines soon is on the gravel but I bet they are working on that too!


Sssssssshhhhhhhh!

[Dadpole]

I may just sit on the hill with a camera and 555-ing all the trucks that stray over the sacred yellow lines on the tight corners. That would be every one of them. Interested to see what feedback I get from the Plod about that :laugh:

[Freebird]

Common sense hasn’t stopped many f$#@wits overtaking on blind corners up on the hill so I don’t see how paint is going to change anything. :shit:

[rebyl]

Cover the plate or get a flip up one like an old mate of mine had on his ZZR1100...silly bugger
:laugh:.

Being a very very old bugger, I can remember as youngsters living in Masterton how we used to race from bridge to bridge on our bikes....mostly Triumps, BSA and Matchless, fun days and we did live to tell tall stories about it...grin

[steelestring]

:shutup: slow-arse congested hill full of worked up traffic... unpatient people brewing and curseing while trailling behind...
Shitty dust and stone throwing from roadworks...

They all hit the passing lane together.. crazy driving trying to pass..... late passing voiding the oncoming traffic on the other side because of irrational urge building.... following too close... sheep following sheep passing running out of lane:shutup: gravel and debris on the corners, cattle shit stretched for km's at a time..

Summer 09 baby!

[Swoop]

So. The Yellow Paint Monster has moved south!

He attacked a large area south of the Bombay's some time ago...

Impact? Very little for bikes. Keep left of the yellow line and you are still legal.
(If you want to)

[Shadows]

Is the area between the two yellow lines a motorcycle lane or what?

As long as you don't cross the second one then nobody can truthfully state that you actually crossed double yellow lines, can they?

I've used it as an extra lane in the past. The cat's eyes are a bitch though.

[grbaker]

Double yellow on the hill :shit:

A 80kph limit on the Paekakariki Hill road and refusing to repair it properly. :stupid:

Double yellow on the Coastal Highway :weep: with cheese-cutter in the middle :wacko: and a 80kph limit.

We are paying for this shit.

[merv]

We are paying to be controlled :2guns:

[grantnz]

Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?

[NZsarge]

Anyway, it's naughty.:spanking:
I thought you were all about the naughty.... :laugh:

[riffer]

Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?

Been done for it. Unsafe use of lane/unsafe lane changing.

$150. 15 demerits.

[Nasty]

Good ride over the hill today ... they are still doing the lines so had a little wait on the way down .. but lunch at Toppies was worth the wait! From what I can tell there is gonna be bugger all change - as where the lines seem to be you can't really pass legally as there is bugger all visiability ... and you apparently need so many 100 meters before you are meant to pass ;)

[mossy1200]

Good ride over the hill today ... they are still doing the lines so had a little wait on the way down .. but lunch at Toppies was worth the wait! From what I can tell there is gonna be bugger all change - as where the lines seem to be you can't really pass legally as there is bugger all visiability ... and you apparently need so many 100 meters before you are meant to pass ;)

100meteres clear visability.Does this mean you can see 100metres or thats there isnt to be any oncoming trafic in the 100metres.
The visibility was clear officer .I could see the car very well thanks.

[MSTRS]

The standard responce is I thought he was waving me past.Honest mistake.

Is the area between the two yellow lines a motorcycle lane or what?


As long as you don't cross the second one then nobody can truthfully state that you actually crossed double yellow lines, can they?

I've used it as an extra lane in the past. The cat's eyes are a bitch though.


Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?


Been done for it. Unsafe use of lane/unsafe lane changing.

$150. 15 demerits.

There is no grey area here.
If the yellow is on your side of the dotted white, you may not (legally) cross to the right of it. Double yellows simply means the opposing traffic has the same constraint.
Double yellows carry no more weight than a single, in terms of overtaking.
If you can safely carry out an overtaking movement between the vehicle in front and the yellow, then unless you do something really stupid, you should be fine. Bearing in mind that the cager may see your manouevre differently...as might a snake (eh Riffer?)

[Shadows]

There is no grey area here.
If the yellow is on your side of the dotted white, you may not (legally) cross to the right of it. Double yellows simply means the opposing traffic has the same constraint.
Double yellows carry no more weight than a single, in terms of overtaking.
If you can safely carry out an overtaking movement between the vehicle in front and the yellow, then unless you do something really stupid, you should be fine. Bearing in mind that the cager may see your manouevre differently...as might a snake (eh Riffer?)

Yeah you're probably right. Can't let the truth get in the way of a good story though.

[oldrider]

We are paying to be controlled :2guns:

Now you are doing it to me Merv! Great minds think alike! :niceone:

Can you spot the difference between Clark and Key? :shifty:

Key is better looking but the outcomes for us are almost identicle! :doh:

[KrazyGixxerBoy]

Seems a bit rough when you consider how many head ons that happen on that road (I've heard of none!). Oh well, like they say...just don't cross the line when you pass!...either that or you can do what my mate did....hinge your licence plate so you can push a button and make it flick up when you want to cross the lane!

[mossy1200]

Seems a bit rough when you consider how many head ons that happen on that road (I've heard of none!). Oh well, like they say...just don't cross the line when you pass!...either that or you can do what my mate did....hinge your licence plate so you can push a button and make it flick up when you want to cross the lane!

hinges and choke cable attatched to the top of plate with hinges a little lower down.Pull choke and it flips up and release choke and gravity returns it.

[JayRacer37]

Come on guys, doesn't this just mean that you know for sure you won't be stopping should you see blue n reds?

:stupid:

[Smokin Joe]

Yellow lines cost way less money than building passing lanes. The problem with the roads in this country is the bloody lack of passing lanes.

More passing lanes and who would give a stuff is some old coot wanted to travel at 70ks instead of 100ks. Its the bloody frustration that we as riders/drivers feel that is causing many of these head on accidents.

I recently rode from Rotorua to Wellington and back and twice found myself inadvertantly passing on double yellows, because I was so busy watching traffic, passing opportunities etc and the place that I did pass was such a safe and obvious place to pass. I was just amazed to find some twat had painted no passing lines there.

Seems the double passing lines everywhere is a relatively new policy that is being implemented country wide.

Smokin Joe.

[sAsLEX]

A cop is going to have their work cut out turning and then pursuing over the Rimutaka Hill road.

Last time I checked they don't need clear vision to throw a three point turn in front of some on coming traffic

[jimbo600]

Well after some considerate thought on the matter I have arrived at the following tenet:

Fuck them, fuck the double yellows, fuck the pissy car drivers, fuck the snakes I'm going to carry on as normal.

[mctshirt]

"Should allowing motorcyclists to cross yellow lines to pass vehicles as part of good vehicle driver correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?"

Wadda ya mean? We're not allowed to now? How long has this been going on? When did this happen? :shit:

[merv]

Wadda ya mean? We're not allowed to now? How long has this been going on? When did this happen? :shit:

It hasn't happened yet it was waiting for you to start the petition to get us the referendum to ask this question :laugh:.

[Fatjim]

Remember that you can pass an un motorised vehicle over a yellow line if its safe.

Just tell the cop that the fucker was going so slow you thought it was horsedrawn.

Oh, and Jimbo, I'm with you. (Well a bit behind, but you know what I mean.)

[Cary]

Yep this is the way it going all over NZ. We all have to toe the line of the dumbest fucktard.

Seriously thinking of getting an offroader. Now they've gone and fucked the hill thats looking more and more like a sensible option.

RIP the hill.

Could be but even thats getting harder to do with more areas being closed to bikes every year...... Auckland area is organised rides only pretty much.

One of my old road favorites(Riverhead Rd) up here was put to 80kph, makes doing 120 dodgey......

[MarkH]

$150 and 35 demerits for each count... last time I knew :shutup:

Passing between car and yellow lines, legal, but some cops may still try to have you on.

Yesterday I rode from Auckland to Tauranga and back (and charged the customer well over $100 travelling fee). I passed vehicles where there were double yellows 3 or 4 times - easily enough room to zip past safely even if I had to cross the double yellows to do so. There were plenty of places with just the normal dashed white centre line where I wouldn't dream of passing. Sometimes the placement of the double yellows is retarded, sometimes it makes sense for cars to not try passing there, but bikes can safely pass. Even my four hundy :scooter: needs much less room to pass a slow car or truck than any car.

Of course I never actually crossed the double yellows, because that would be illegal :whistle::innocent:

It would be nice for it to be legal to cross the double yellows on a bike as long as you can do it safely. Of course it would also be nice if more motorists were courteous and moved to the left enough to let bikes pass without crossing the centre line - to those that do that now I give a grateful wave. Courteous drivers, what a concept! :weird:

[oldrider]

Yellow lines cost way less money than building passing lanes. The problem with the roads in this country is the bloody lack of passing lanes.

More passing lanes and who would give a stuff is some old coot wanted to travel at 70ks instead of 100ks. Its the bloody frustration that we as riders/drivers feel that is causing many of these head on accidents.

I recently rode from Rotorua to Wellington and back and twice found myself inadvertantly passing on double yellows, because I was so busy watching traffic, passing opportunities etc and the place that I did pass was such a safe and obvious place to pass. I was just amazed to find some twat had painted no passing lines there.

Seems the double passing lines everywhere is a relatively new policy that is being implemented country wide.

Smokin Joe.

South Island passing lanes mean that the slow driver you have been waiting to pass, takes the outside lane, hugs the center line and speeds up to about 120kph minimum and does his damndest to hold that position until the end of the passing lane!

They then proceed at 70kph hugging the center line until the next passing lane and then it all starts all over again!

Do the revenue collectors target these drivers, "absolutely not"!

These drivers are the cause of all the of frustration, road rage and speeding in excess of big numbers to try and get around them.

I think the revenue collectors manage these bastard drivers on a catch and release program, much like trout fishers do!

Keeps the quotas up with out doing the hard hours! :nono:

Do rabbit boards ever eliminate rabbits? They are the basis of their rice bowl FFS!

That would be like expecting our politicions to get rid of their perks. :brick:

[merv]

John sounds like you've discovered the South Island pace cars :blink:

[Muppet]

Double yellows? I'll give you three guesses which South Island road they'll do that to next!

[Ms Piggy]

Just got a call from a Friend driving over the Rimutaka Hill this morning. They are in the process of painting continuous double yellows from top to bottom. he said they are doing the Feathers side at the moment but from he's seen it's an unbroken double most of the way. No doubt they will do both sides. :mad:

Ummmm, I went over the Rimutakas today (God what a perfect day for a ride!!) and didn't notice double yellow lines the entire way....mind you I ride like a nana anyway so it wouldn't bother me.

[MD]

Been over today and they have painted the bottom half of the Feathers side..so far. The top half has had the white lines burnt off ready for painting.

As expected, the slowest vehicle set the pace for the rest of us, bumper to bumber behind. I guess we now have more time to look at the scenery.

[merv]

Time to get some hi-riser bars on the 675 MD so it will be nice and comfy at "pace car" speed.

p.s. out today gassing up some of our bikes and on one of the trips around SH58 by the bay some dude on an orange wheeled Buell ahead of me said fuck the double yellows and just passed the cars anyway - not that he really made great headway but he passed a few of the "pace cars".

[_STAIN_]

1 1/2 cars pulled over for us on way home tonight :)

[oldrider]

They need to post huge :Playnice: "KEEP LEFT, ALLOW MOTORCYCLES TO PASS" :Police: notices at the bottom of both sides of the hill! That should help! :devil2:

Edit: On second thoughts, post these notices everywhere, from North Cape to the Bluff!

[Timber020]

They need to post huge :Playnice: "KEEP LEFT, ALLOW MOTORCYCLES TO PASS" :Police: notices at the bottom of both sides of the hill! That should help! :devil2:

Edit: On second thoughts, post these notices everywhere, from North Cape to the Bluff!

Na, WE should post those signs!

[FJRider]

It's not The Fuzz(TM) that I fear on this. It's the *555 cellphone brigade. Sigh.

Perhaps NZTA needs to come up with another colour for no passing lines that show it's OK for bikes but not for cars and larger vehicles...

How goods cell reception up there ???

[Fatjim]

Been over today and they have painted the bottom half of the Feathers side..so far. The top half has had the white lines burnt off ready for painting.

As expected, the slowest vehicle set the pace for the rest of us, bumper to bumber behind. I guess we now have more time to look at the scenery.

What I found mildly ammusing is how smudged the new line is, with on almost every corner, the yellow paint has been screen printed all over the road by the tyres of vehicles that have crossed the wet centre lines.

In one case, the yellow lines were copied a good 2 metres onto the wrong side of the road by a truck.

[riffer]

Of course, a little bit of civil disobedience in the form of a bloke with a paint brush and some yellow paint creating multiple yellow lines all over the road wouldn't go amiss either...

[StoneY]

Goin over again today so will see what state it is by the time I head home-
:(

[peasea]

How goods cell reception up there ???

I've not been arrested up there so couldn't tell ya.

[James Deuce]

What I found mildly ammusing is how smudged the new line is, with on almost every corner, the yellow paint has been screen printed all over the road by the tyres of vehicles that have crossed the wet centre lines.

In one case, the yellow lines were copied a good 2 metres onto the wrong side of the road by a truck.

Trucks are allowed to do that because Tony Friedlander said it's OK and everyone knows that every NZ government of the last 20 years does everything the trucking lobby says because trucks are cool.

Bikes on the other hand....

[_STAIN_]

What I found mildly ammusing is how smudged the new line is, with on almost every corner, the yellow paint has been screen printed all over the road by the tyres of vehicles that have crossed the wet centre lines.

In one case, the yellow lines were copied a good 2 metres onto the wrong side of the road by a truck.

Exactly Jim, I could not believe how many black line there were over the fresh paint, 100's are blatantly cutting corners over the painted "safety barrier"
better start using spell check or Hutcher is goin to be on your arse :)

[MSTRS]

What I found mildly amusing is how smudged the new line is, with on almost every corner, the yellow paint has been screen printed all over the road by the tyres of vehicles that have crossed the wet centre lines.

In one case, the yellow lines were copied a good 2 metres onto the wrong side of the road by a truck.

Jim...Jim...I'm surprised that you got that so wrong. Screenprinting is a totally different operation. What you meant to say was Letterpress, right? :innocent:

In any case, I'm not so sure that painted lines mean much to the average driver. More just a guide that they are still on the road...

[sunhuntin]

car drivers bitching on tardme about the removal of passing lanes.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=38187594&threadid=38187594

[Shadows]

car drivers bitching on tardme about the removal of passing lanes.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=38187594&threadid=38187594

So they should.

Yellow lines or not I don't reckon it'll be long before head on crashes caused by driver frustration start happening.

[Hitcher]

The yellow stripers were flat out today on the Wellington side. They should have it all done in time for the weekend.

[FIDH]

To be honest, I'm not really surprised. I ride a fairly quick bike, love the 'Taka's and have ridden them on and off since I started riding 30 years ago. The thing I have been most pissed off with over the last few years, is the number of IDIOTS on big bikes that DO seem to ride like they are on a race track, to the detriment of other road users. I have had dickhead racer wannabes cut me off, dropping in on my front wheel exiting corners they thought they could pass me on, until they see the cage or truck coming the other way.

In all seriousness, I'm gonna hate this yellow line bullshit, but SOME OF YOU, and you will know who you are, ARE partly to blame. By treating the Hill as your own private race track, and the behaviour that goes with such arrogant road use, you have fucked it up for those who like to ride hard, but not at the expense and safety of other road users.

In closing, this is what the Hill should be remembered like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNAj4LvNwA

[wilber]

Mr plod wont patrol the hill now he'll be waiting on the first straight on the either side of the hill to catch everbody ,you can almost hear the cash registor ringing already.

[carbonhed]

In closing, this is what the Hill should be remembered like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNAj4LvNwA

If we all had to remember such a stupenously tedious blither over the Taka's as that... then for me they could bulldoze the whole damn thing.

I want that "x" minutes of my life back. :Oi::brick:

[Hailwood]

Sorry carbonhead but I have to agree with the previous poster...too many people have used that road like a racetrack without the thought of others..it was bound to happen. Like it or not, not all cagers marvel at the skill (used tongue in cheek) of the multicoloured leather clad rossi wannabes that howl up and down the hill on various sides of the road around blind corners, cutting off others including other bikers.

Its the same as being experienced on the back roads around the rapa now with the increase in police cars cruising around. Why? Because once again said rossi wannabes have been using the roads like a racetrack and the general population have had enough!!!!!

I am all for people being able to use their bikes to the maximum potential and I know that I could never ride a 1 litre sportsbike to anywhere near its potential (and I hasten to add that few owners can either) but ffs, if you want to act like and look like rossi, then go to a damn track day!!!!!!!! Otherwise all that will happen is that it is going to get harder to enjoy any roads anywhere...just my opinion

[carbonhed]

Sorry carbonhead but I have to agree with the previous poster...too many people have used that road like a racetrack without the thought of others..it was bound to happen. Like it or not, not all cagers marvel at the skill (used tongue in cheek) of the multicoloured leather clad rossi wannabes that howl up and down the hill on various sides of the road around blind corners, cutting off others including other bikers.

Its the same as being experienced on the back roads around the rapa now with the increase in police cars cruising around. Why? Because once again said rossi wannabes have been using the roads like a racetrack and the general population have had enough!!!!!

I am all for people being able to use their bikes to the maximum potential and I know that I could never ride a 1 litre sportsbike to anywhere near its potential (and I hasten to add that few owners can either) but ffs, if you want to act like and look like rossi, then go to a damn track day!!!!!!!! Otherwise all that will happen is that it is going to get harder to enjoy any roads anywhere...just my opinion

Ack... no, yer misunderestimating me... I hate riders who treat other road users like crap... it's the video of the knob stuck in traffic all the way up and then aborting all the corners on the way down that offended me... don't watch it if you value your sanity.

[Str8 Jacket]

Sorry carbonhead but I have to agree with the previous poster...too many people have used that road like a racetrack without the thought of others..it was bound to happen. Like it or not, not all cagers marvel at the skill (used tongue in cheek) of the multicoloured leather clad rossi wannabes that howl up and down the hill on various sides of the road around blind corners, cutting off others including other bikers.

Its the same as being experienced on the back roads around the rapa now with the increase in police cars cruising around. Why? Because once again said rossi wannabes have been using the roads like a racetrack and the general population have had enough!!!!!

I am all for people being able to use their bikes to the maximum potential and I know that I could never ride a 1 litre sportsbike to anywhere near its potential (and I hasten to add that few owners can either) but ffs, if you want to act like and look like rossi, then go to a damn track day!!!!!!!! Otherwise all that will happen is that it is going to get harder to enjoy any roads anywhere...just my opinion

WOW! <just wow> :eek5:

[FIDH]

Ack... no, yer misunderestimating me... I hate riders who treat other road users like crap... it's the video of the knob stuck in traffic all the way up and then aborting all the corners on the way down that offended me... don't watch it if you value your sanity.

This "knob" is heading over the Hill tomorrow arvo, care to meet? :baby:

That vid was shot on a mid 80's GT 750 Kawasaki with a liking for jumping out of gear under engine braking. My Trophy is Not so inclined.

However, don't take this as a challenge to a race, more as a see what I mean.

[mctshirt]

Sorry carbonhead but I have to agree with the previous poster...too many people have used that road like a racetrack without the thought of others..it was bound to happen. Like it or not, not all cagers marvel at the skill (used tongue in cheek) of the multicoloured leather clad rossi wannabes that howl up and down the hill on various sides of the road around blind corners, cutting off others including other bikers.

Its the same as being experienced on the back roads around the rapa now with the increase in police cars cruising around. Why? Because once again said rossi wannabes have been using the roads like a racetrack and the general population have had enough!!!!!

I am all for people being able to use their bikes to the maximum potential and I know that I could never ride a 1 litre sportsbike to anywhere near its potential (and I hasten to add that few owners can either) but ffs, if you want to act like and look like rossi, then go to a damn track day!!!!!!!! Otherwise all that will happen is that it is going to get harder to enjoy any roads anywhere...just my opinion

To be fair it's not the wind, boy racers, trucks, or drivers who won't pull over that worry me on the hill. The thing I fear the most is meeting one of the Rossi wannabe's knee down commited to a line that takes bike and body over the centre line as their wheels brush the apex. Double yellows won't stop it...

[I'm motarded]

And this one time at band camp..... whats done is done, I agree with mctshirt the double yellow lines wont stop it. like 100km speed limit does'nt stop speeders etc etc

[MIXONE]

I got so sick of the Rossi wannabes that I only ride the Takas or Piecock during the week when they are all at school.

[boomer]

In closing, this is what the Hill should be remembered like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNAj4LvNwA


I gave up 20 seconds in... that was painful.

[merv]

Nice road, shame about the cars on it.

[Fatjim]

To be honest, I'm not really surprised. I ride a fairly quick bike, love the 'Taka's and have ridden them on and off since I started riding 30 years ago. The thing I have been most pissed off with over the last few years, is the number of IDIOTS on big bikes that DO seem to ride like they are on a race track, to the detriment of other road users. I have had dickhead racer wannabes cut me off, dropping in on my front wheel exiting corners they thought they could pass me on, until they see the cage or truck coming the other way.

In all seriousness, I'm gonna hate this yellow line bullshit, but SOME OF YOU, and you will know who you are, ARE partly to blame. By treating the Hill as your own private race track, and the behaviour that goes with such arrogant road use, you have fucked it up for those who like to ride hard, but not at the expense and safety of other road users.

In closing, this is what the Hill should be remembered like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNAj4LvNwA

Its not the crazy bikers who have caused this. We have been using the rimutukas as a race track since before most of us were born.

It's the current wave of idiot drivers that is causing the grief. Idiots, in cars and on bikes that can't ride to the left hand side. As a nation, we tend to all get a frontal labotomy when we start driving.

[Hailwood]

Ack... no, yer misunderestimating me... I hate riders who treat other road users like crap... it's the video of the knob stuck in traffic all the way up and then aborting all the corners on the way down that offended me... don't watch it if you value your sanity.

My apologies

[James Deuce]

Its not the crazy bikers who have caused this. We have been using the rimutukas as a race track since before most of us were born.

It's the current wave of idiot drivers that is causing the grief. Idiots, in cars and on bikes that can't ride to the left hand side. As a nation, we tend to all get a frontal labotomy when we start driving.

Make "Failure to keep left" a Capital offence.

[Shadows]

Make "Failure to keep left" a Capital offence.

Sometimes it is. Unfortunately often it is the wrong person who receives the punishment.

[roogazza]

Popped over Saturday, the hill is almost completely double yellowed.
It's fucked I'm afraid, no good whinging, its done.
At least I figure I've had 45 odd years. I feel so safe now , don't you ? G.

ps and to cap it off, there was a camera van on the straight (Hutt side) waiting to nab the pissed off motorists after a painfull crawl from featherston.

[Fatjim]

I suggest if you've got a Wednesday off you go up the hill and ride real slow (1st gear slow) in front of the cops training up there.

In fact, next fine Wednesday I might do just that.

[jimbo600]

Top idea Jim. Might have to join ya

[Laxi]

lets face it, its been awsome, but the hills dead now, I,ve been told there's road works starting today to remove muldoons corner, its just a road to use to get to the good riding in the rapa imho

[Trudes]

I suggest if you've got a Wednesday off you go up the hill and ride real slow (1st gear slow) in front of the cops training up there.

In fact, next fine Wednesday I might do just that.

I might actually be able to keep up with you guys on that ride! ;)

[merv]

At least I figure I've had 45 odd years. I feel so safe now , don't you ? G.


Yeah Gazz mate, don't know how we made it without all the control freaks getting us to our age - at least we've got the memories until Alzheimers gets us eh!

[ajturbo]

i have just gone over..

the only road works getting done is the cleaning up of the slips... lol

[roogazza]

Yeah Gazz mate, don't know how we made it without all the control freaks getting us to our age - at least we've got the memories until Alzheimers gets us eh!

At least your records won't be broken now Merv !!!! :Punk: G.

[unrealone]

I was quite disappointed on Saturday to find half the overtaking lanes missing :(

[PirateJafa]

I suggest if you've got a Wednesday off you go up the hill and ride real slow (1st gear slow) in front of the cops training up there.

In fact, next fine Wednesday I might do just that.

By the time you get to the top, you'll have a big enough gap to the cars in front of you that you'll have a clear run down the other side.

Great success.

[Str8 Jacket]

I was quite disappointed on Saturday to find half the overtaking lanes missing :(

Fuckers! <fuckers>

[The Stranger]

Fook me - 9 page of PMS.

[Str8 Jacket]

Fook me - 9 page of PMS.

And its not even about somewhere in Auckland!!

[The Stranger]

And its not even about somewhere in Auckland!!

We have to live with ginga - you get the yellow paint.
Deal with it.

[Str8 Jacket]

We have to live with ginga - you get the yellow paint.
Deal with it.

Ah, so you suffer from PMS too then! :eek:

[The Stranger]

Ah, so you suffer from PMS too then! :eek:

You heard me moaning like a bitch about ginga have you?
He's entertainment - just like you whiners.

[Madness]

We have to live with ginga - you get the yellow paint.
Deal with it.

This is different Noel. it's a religious issue. Someone just took a mighty great crap in the middle of the cathedral and hid the bloody mop.

As you were.

[xxcbr69xx]

Only 2 of the 9 passing lanes were removed, and more often than not they seemed to present opportunities for 4 wheeled drivers to show how piss poor their speed/acceleration judgement is.

Good riddance to the pair of them! :clap:

[Str8 Jacket]

Only 2 of the 7 passing lanes were removed,

Ah huh, the truth!!

[SixPackBack]

We have to live with ginga - you get the yellow paint.
Deal with it.

BAHAHAHAHA..........At least its only one road, that ginga dog turd has an entire county stitched up.:mellow:
Choppa sez HARDEN THE FUCK UP!...........bloody wellie crew is soft!

[Dodgy]

Hasn't the motorcycle road code been revised to state that motorcycles may overtake on yellow lines as long as they complete the overtake with 100m of clear road?

Someone has commented on this in a previous post....

[325rocket]

did ya know ...

bunnings sell road paint ...

[Trudes]

"Did you know the human head weighs eight pounds?"

[James Deuce]

Hasn't the motorcycle road code been revised to state that motorcycles may overtake on yellow lines as long as they complete the overtake with 100m of clear road?

Someone has commented on this in a previous post....
No.

If you don't cross the Yellows, it isn't an offence. The lines don't mean "no overtaking" they mean "do not cross".

However you need to be careful that you have the space and that you don't do it in a way that generates a *555 call or an actual written complaint.

Motorcycles don't get special rules written for them. We do get cut slack in heavy traffic due to our agility and size by Cops with a grain of common sense. Those without are perfectly within the scope of their job description to bust you with anything from "Passing on the Left" to "Careless driving".

[SixPackBack]

No.

If you don't cross the Yellows, it isn't an offence. The lines don't mean "no overtaking" they mean "do not cross".

However you need to be careful that you have the space and that you don't do it in a way that generates a *555 call or an actual written complaint.

Motorcycles don't get special rules written for them. We do get cut slack in heavy traffic due to our agility and size by Cops with a grain of common sense. Those without are perfectly within the scope of their job description to bust you with anything from "Passing on the Left" to "Careless driving".

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....A contradiction in terms James Deuce!

[Fatjim]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....A contradiction in terms James Deuce!

Move the needle!

[Madness]

Transit are going to leave the new livery on the hill after completion of the roadworks, unless there's good reason not to. I say for the next few Martinborough Fair / Tauherenikau race days it'd be a good idea to do the Taka's at funeral procession pace and get those cagers complaining already!.

[BMWST?]

Only 2 of the 9 passing lanes were removed, and more often than not they seemed to present opportunities for 4 wheeled drivers to show how piss poor their speed/acceleration judgement is.

Good riddance to the pair of them! :clap:

so the short one about halfway up the featherston side...and the shortest one on the welly side?Both right handers?

[Fatjim]

Mate, those white lines are slipperry, even in the dry!

[Wannabiker]

what were you doing on the white lines...you were meant to be testing the double yellows.....

[Ender EnZed]

WTF???

I've been in something resembling a coma for the last month. This just ruined my year.

[Hailwood]

:lol:
so the short one about halfway up the featherston side...and the shortest one on the welly side?Both right handers?


Thats them..no great loss in terms of passing lanes..there are some white painted areas that could be used as pull in areas now...if anyone actually thought about being considerate of course....:whistle:

[unrealone]

Bah, whether it was 2 passing lanes or 4 passing lanes, they didn't need to remove any -_-. Now we've just got fancy white painted run offs to guarantee low sliding in the wet if you overcook slightly - did I mention the sheer drop off the edge? Unfortunately (and contrary to popular belief) I'm not a MotoGP rider and I'm not a master of drifting in the wet on a bike :P

Anyway, I'm sure as someones already mentioned... cagers won't be able to *555 till they pull over with the no cellphones rule! :banana:

PS. I'm not really fussed they've removed them, I'm purely bored at my desk at work.

[MSTRS]

... cagers won't be able to *555 till they pull over with the no cellphones rule! :banana:



You not been paying attention? *555 and 111 calls exempt.

[unrealone]

You not been paying attention? *555 and 111 calls exempt.

..Apparently not.. I can only find an exemption for 111 calls. So good to know you're allowed to potentially kill others by phoning 111?