Test Officer crashed...

[b8man]

Hi!
I need your opinion and advise...

I'm German, holding a restricted licence for more than 10 years now, and I wanted to get my full licence in NZ. I had to change my german licence into a nz licence + apllied for an exemption to do my full licence straight away... The problem is that when I had the drive for my licence, the test officer, driving in a car behind me, had a car crash... I had to stop until he and the other guy changed adress and stuff like that... I was concerned that the officer isnt in a apropriate mood, or his decision making after the crash may be impaired and if its not better to make the drive later or with another officer... he said its alright, lets do the drive, i was driving for about 10 mins and he ended the drive and said that he thinks I can't judge the speed of other vehicles while doing a uturn.

I think I've been treated unfair, went to the AA and told them what happened. They only said that the officer didnt report a crash, and if there really was one, he would still be able to judge objectively because of his long experience as an officer...

What would you guys do now??? I think about complaining at the landtransport. Do you think I should do that after all that has happened during my licence drive???

Thank you for every advise,
cheers
jorg

[Toot Toot]

Clearly this is one of the funniest posts I have read for a while, sorry you didnt get your licence tho. It is just the irony having your tester fail you for misjudging other traffic speed and he had a crash, lol!!

I'm not sure what the process is for appealing a decision but that certainly sounds like grounds for it. Also he would have to report the crash to his employer, it is a workplace accident and required by law.

[Markw336]

lol thats just stupid he should have just re set another date for you to do the test again

and yes this is a really funny post i mean you would think they would be good at driving if they were doing to test lol

[crazyhorse]

Next time take a picture

[hospitalfood]

i think you should re-book the test at another place and do it again, it will be cheaper when you consider the time involved in getting the result you want from your failed test ( and you may not get them to change the decision ).

sorry you got a bad test officer, i do think you got a raw deal but i still think it will be better for you if you just do it again somewhere else.

[Chooky]

Maybe it was because you laughed at him....
Dont worry, you'll get it next time...:cool:

[b8man]

i think you should re-book the test at another place and do it again, it will be cheaper when you consider the time involved in getting the result you want from your failed test ( and you may not get them to change the decision ).

sorry you got a bad test officer, i do think you got a raw deal but i still think it will be better for you if you just do it again somewhere else.

I would, but as the AA told me I've been granted a one time exemption, because I'm holding a german licence for more than 10 years now and that's the reason why Landtransport assumes I should know how to ride and would only need one try. In 10 days I have to go back to Germany (after working 6 months here)... I'm running out of time, and thinking of the whole Test situation makes me just wanna throw-up. Furthermore I paied almost $300 - as it seems - for nothing.

Some of you may ask themselves why I don't get a full licence in Germany... The answer is simple. It's f #%'* expensive - about €1000, thats more than 2000 NZD.

[Matt_TG]

In my view there were aggravating circumstances that may well have prevented the testing officer's impressions of your competence. Funny that he didn't report it, was there any damage to his vehicle?

I would write a letter explaining the circumstances and requesting a re-test at no cost to you, but as time is getting short you would probably be best to wait till you return to NZ again. Any reason you HAVE to sit it before you leave?

[b8man]

@Matt TG

Of course there was a damage... the two cars crashed in a 45 degree angle at the front... the testofficers indicators and lights were broken, but still worked, and the bumper + some other parts of the front part of the car were damaged.

I am not sure when or if I return to NZ in the future. I had a good job opportunity here, but never intended to immigrate - it was just because of a job. That's why I want to make the Test before I leave.

[smoky]

Hi!
I wanted to get my full licence in NZ..... .

... he ended the drive and said that he thinks I can't judge the speed of other vehicles while doing a uturn.

I think I've been treated unfair, went to the AA and told them what happened.
What would you guys do now??? I think about complaining at the landtransport. Do you think I should do that ....

No
Why focus on the accident, you weren't failed because he had an accident.
Sure he might not of been in the best mood afterwards - but if anything he's going to be thinking about that and not paying as much attention on your riding - that would work in your favor.

Rather than run around trying to use the accident to influence people into GIVING you a license - you should've been asking how you could improve your judgement of the speed of other vehicles - what you needed to do to show you had good judgement?

[Conquiztador]

In my view there were aggravating circumstances that may well have prevented the testing officer's impressions of your competence. Funny that he didn't report it, was there any damage to his vehicle?

I would write a letter explaining the circumstances and requesting a re-test at no cost to you, but as time is getting short you would probably be best to wait till you return to NZ again. Any reason you HAVE to sit it before you leave?

What the man said

[b8man]

Rather than run around trying to use the accident to influence people into GIVING you a license - you should've been asking how you could improve your judgement of the speed of other vehicles - what you needed to do to show you had good judgement?

As I already mentioned above I had to make a U-turn.


"influence people into GIVING you a license..." - WHAT??? I am just asking for fair treatment and if I got a reason to question the test situation rather than trying to influence so to "give" me a licence!

[YellowDog]

Out of the two of you, one of you had a dribving problem.

It may or may not have been the one that crashed !!!

You have reported a car accident and his employers should follow this up with an investigation.

I guess he would not be keen to report it as it may affect his employment.

But seriously, complaining will not get you a pass. At best you may get a free retake however for all the trouble you will have to go to, my advice would be to put it behind you and take a new test asap.

Good luck.

[smoky]

Even if it was not fair - what I'm trying to say is; when you give small minded people power - they won't ever change their mind. No matter how logical or convincing your argument is - they won't. They failed you because they can.
Ever try talking a parking warden out of issuing you a ticket?

Just find out what it is they want you to do and do it - we don't live in a fair world

So any people I know failed the first time - too cocky, little things that were largely irrelevant in there mind

[b8man]

I would love to have another test - but - I have a one time exemption. I just want to figure out if I have a reason to call landtransport and tell them that I want a new exemption asap because I think the test should not have happened under those circumstances. Maybe it was fault because I didn't insist to get a new officer after the crash happened.

[Okey Dokey]

hmmmm...the fact that you went ahead and copmpleted the test indicates that you agreed that it was okay to do so...you wouldn't complain now, if you had passed, that the testing officer may have been impaired...I don't think you have much chance with an appeal.

my 2 cents

[boomer]

in all honesty, there are already too many IDIOTs on the road. The pass criteria is FAR too low hence the state of the roads in NZ. Its not the roads or the speed its the idiots without a clue ON teh roads unable to cope.

Adding someone else to this list only makes matters worst.


IF you had been any good you'd have passed.. the test is already noddy level.. you failed...

Now go learn how to ride/drive then take the test again !

The fact the tester crashed is irrelevant, if you'd been any good you'd have passed.. no questions asked.

[b8man]

in all honesty, there are already too many IDIOTs on the road. The pass criteria is FAR too low hence the state of the roads in NZ. Its not the roads or the speed its the idiots without a clue ON teh roads unable to cope.

Adding someone else to this list only makes matters worst.


IF you had been any good you'd have passed.. the test is already noddy level.. you failed...

Now go learn how to ride/drive then take the test again !

The fact the tester crashed is irrelevant, if you'd been any good you'd have passed.. no questions asked.

Thank you very much for this polite answer. I'm feeling really bad being a complete idiot riding a bike for more than 10 years now in Germany... with all the other idiots on the street there...

[boomer]

well prove to yourself and the testing officer your not a stereotypical bad driver.

We all know you germans are typically quite pedantic.. so you must be the exception to the rule?

[ZK-Awesome]

This reminds me a bit of my bike restricted test about 8 months ago. The tester got pulled by a cop for not stopping at a stop sign :clap: The difference between you story and mine is that I passed (though it's pretty had to **** it up when riding an A100)

[b8man]

well prove to yourself and the testing officer your not a stereotypical bad driver.

We all know you germans are typically quite pedantic.. so you must be the exception to the rule?

Sorry, I think that's a bit too much now. I'm asking for advise how to handle stuff in NZ being a foreigner confronted with an unusual situation, not getting informed what kind of people germans are. What a nerve!

[boomer]

Think about it...


IF YOU HAD DONE EVERYTHING ABOVE STANDARD/AVERAGE...


WOULD WE BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION?



And don't tell me i'm wrong.. we won 2 WORLD wars !

[Rayray401]

Sorry, I think that's a bit too much now. I'm asking for advise how to handle stuff in NZ being a foreigner confronted with an unusual situation, not getting informed what kind of people germans are. What a nerve!

Bah, just take the test again asap...not worth the hassel complaining and going through with the appeal. youre really soon, just not going to get this done in a week...its like $80 isnt it?, consider the free test a privilege..not a grant. Oh btw, about the Germans being pedantic thing...umm, let me be the first one to Welcome you to KB :lol:

[b8man]

Think about it...


IF YOU HAD DONE EVERYTHING ABOVE STANDARD...


WOULD WE BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION?



And don't tell me i'm wrong.. we won 2 WORLD wars !

I can't believe what I'm reading... Please do me a favour and do not participate in any further discussion going on in this threat.

[smoky]

riding a bike for more than 10 years now in Germany... with all the other idiots on the street there...

After driving in Germany, I'd have to agree with you
Nachdem ich in Deutschland angetrieben hatte, würde ich mit Ihnen einverstanden sein müssen

[boomer]

I can't believe what I'm reading... Please do me a favour and do not participate in any further discussion going on in this threat.


ok, but i'll continue in the thread if thats ok?!


Seriously... if you'd been above average you wouldn't have failed. As it happens you were at best average and at worst 'should be walking ' material.

Don;t moan about it.. he may have saved yours and someone elses lives by keeping you of the road for a bit longer :dodge:


The test here in NZ is ridiculously fookin easy! nothing like what you would expect in Europe ( hence you dont want to do it there.. that and teh $$$ )

[boomer]

p.s.


Two Nil... two nil.. two nil...!!!!


Two Nil





two Nil.....









TWO NIL !!







:lol:

[Argyle]

I would, but as the AA told me I've been granted a one time exemption, because I'm holding a german licence for more than 10 years now and that's the reason why Landtransport assumes I should know how to ride and would only need one try. In 10 days I have to go back to Germany (after working 6 months here)... I'm running out of time, and thinking of the whole Test situation makes me just wanna throw-up. Furthermore I paied almost $300 - as it seems - for nothing.

Some of you may ask themselves why I don't get a full licence in Germany... The answer is simple. It's f #%'* expensive - about €1000, thats more than 2000 NZD.

Hehe, yea I'm with you there man. Every lesson i did for my full license for a bike did cost me 560kronor (that's for 2hours driving) then the theory test and the practical test bla bla. My license did cost me 12 000 Swedish crown. That's about 2500dollars!!

[nothingflash]

I would love to have another test - but - I have a one time exemption. I just want to figure out if I have a reason to call landtransport and tell them that I want a new exemption asap because I think the test should not have happened under those circumstances. Maybe it was fault because I didn't insist to get a new officer after the crash happened.

Sorry dude - it's your word against his. I agree with the general theme - forget about it an move on.

[Okey Dokey]

hmmm..me again...while I still don't think your appeal would have a chance, I do recall something from sitting my full test that you may not have been aware of...

I had heard that it was important to physically turn my head, almost in an exaggerated manner, at intersections, etc. This was so the testing officer knew I was looking around. A motorcyclists normally scans by moving eyes, not the whole head. Perhaps this was a pitfall for you?

Also, a lot of newer riders hesitate and possibly wait for an empty road before uturning, whereas perhaps you just saw a gap- knew you had time- and did it.

Trying to be understanding here, you've caught a bit of flak, but I think you'll just have to accept that you failed. Better luck in Germany!

[avgas]

I believe this is the case where 2 wrongs don't make a right.
The tester should not have crashed.
You should not have failed.
Because the tester crashed, and you failed, this does not make you pass.
Germans like logic. That is why i like dealing with them - they make sense.

[b8man]

Also, a lot of newer riders hesitate and possibly wait for an empty road before uturning, whereas perhaps you just saw a gap- knew you had time- and did it.

Trying to be understanding here, you've caught a bit of flak, but I think you'll just have to accept that you failed. Better luck in Germany!

mmmmhh... to be honest - thats what my mates from germany said when I told them the story... probably you're right. I'm gonna try to ask for another exemption to repeat the test and hope that the landtransport is going to permit it.

[BiK3RChiK]

When you do apply again for the exemption, explain all the circumstances to them of the first test. This may help your case.

Personally, I think you may have been hard done by, but, really, who on here knows since none of us (that I know of) have seen you riding on the failed test.

All the best with whatever you do....

[Metalor]

Shit, you guys are giving this guy a hard time. I reckon the testing officer was pissed off and failed him to take out is frustration. Reasonable assumption don't you think?

And I hear drivers/riders in Germany are leagues ahead in skill than here in NZ... given he hasn't got a German lisence this may not be a valid arguement. BUt come on, 10 years of riding is adequate to judge speed of other traffic while performing a U-turn...

He can't just "take the test again" because he was given a one time exemption... if you had bothered to read that part. This might also contribute to the fact as to why he decided to continue with the test as he didn't have long left in NZ and may not get to do the resit!


I'd definitely write in and make a formal complaint. Explain your situation and also mention the guy crashed (don't know whether it was his fault or not, but given he didn't tell his employer I'd assume he was in the wrong).

[boomer]

Shit, you guys are giving this guy a hard time. I reckon the testing officer was pissed off and failed him to take out is frustration. Reasonable assumption don't you think?

And I hear drivers/riders in Germany are leagues ahead in skill than here in NZ... given he hasn't got a German lisence this may not be a valid arguement. BUt come on, 10 years of riding is adequate to judge speed of other traffic while performing a U-turn...

He can't just "take the test again" because he was given a one time exemption... if you had bothered to read that part. This might also contribute to the fact as to why he decided to continue with the test as he didn't have long left in NZ and may not get to do the resit!


I'd definitely write in and make a formal complaint. Explain your situation and also mention the guy crashed (don't know whether it was his fault or not, but given he didn't tell his employer I'd assume he was in the wrong).

oh well.. based on all the assumptions above i'm having crumpets for tea! ( Or dinner as you call it )