Raglan way Maori land thief types?

[wbks]

Theres a house we're looking at down around raglan way, but apparently the in dept current tenants refuse to move out because it's their tribal land or something. And something about the neighbors holding the power transformer ransom also... So I was wondering (before I get invaded by a bunch of Tame manTiti types camping out on my front lawn) if that kind of stuff is common around there, or are these just random deadbeats?

[Laava]

You need legal advice on this and it will be specific to the title. However the transformer thing might be; because the other party paid for it, and they would expect another user to reimburse them to some degree. The current owner of the title should have sorted it but if he is related then it may not have happened. Friends of mine been thru this!

[SixPackBack]

Go and see the local council, they should be able to shed some light on the situation.....contacting the local Iwi if that fails would be the next step!

[cave weta]

hell!- I would just walk away! what a thing to get involved with. Lawyers love this shit!:crazy:

[sAsLEX]

contacting the local Iwi if that fails would be the next step!

Just don't forget your wallet....

[Hitcher]

Is it time for a troll warning?

[SixPackBack]

Is it time for a troll warning?

WTF??....I had hardly baited the hook, bloody kill joy:crazy:

[smoky]

Theres a house we're looking at down around raglan way, but apparently the in dept current tenants refuse to move out because it's their tribal land or something. And something about the neighbors holding the power transformer ransom also... So I was wondering (before I get invaded by a bunch of Tame manTiti types camping out on my front lawn) if that kind of stuff is common around there, or are these just random deadbeats?

they just don't like you

[FJRider]

Are Trolls living in the house too !!! .... bugger that ... walk away mate ...

[Devil]

Too many alarm bells for me already, find somewhere else!

[Ooky]

this is when the American castle law could come in handy :innocent:

[wbks]

they just don't like youAnd apparently your English teacher didn't like you enough to teach you basic comprehension

No troll, Hitcher (if it was me you meant).

[smoky]

And apparently your English teacher didn't like you enough to teach you basic comprehension
.

You think!

You were never taught common sense obviously - you must be a little bit on the dense side of things - why else would you look at buying a property that has all that crap going on, and then ask a predominately racist forum of bike riders for advice on something like that - unless your just wanting to stir up a laugh

So don't concern yourself with giving me a basic comprehension lesson
:stupid:

[wbks]

You think!

You were never taught common sense obviously - you must be a little bit on the dense side of things - why else would you look at buying a property that has all that crap going on, and then ask a predominately racist forum of bike riders for advice on something like that - unless your just wanting to stir up a laugh

So don't concern yourself with giving me a basic comprehension lesson
:stupid:
Sounds like I may have hit a nerve there? I asked because there are a few people here from around the Waikato. Don't worry, I won't try to give you any lessons. The public schooling system has special classes for things like that.

[Blackbird]

I'm old enough to remember all the fuss about the Raglan Golf course and its occupation a few years back with Eva Rickard leading the dispute. Guess there's still stuff bubbling under the surface in some parts.

[wbks]

The mormon few are around the area I think? Maybe I can get them to scare these undesirable locals off...

[wbks]

I'm old enough to remember all the fuss about the Raglan Golf course and its occupation a few years back with Eva Rickard leading the dispute. Guess there's still stuff bubbling under the surface in some parts.Maybe. Apparently some Maori party rep they tried to get help from pretty much tries to avoid them, so maybe they're just opportunists that have no entitlement.

[smoky]

Sounds like I may have hit a nerve there? I asked because there are a few people here from around the Waikato. Don't worry, I won't try to give you any lessons. The public schooling system has special classes for things like that.

Um - did I miss something , I didn't get upset? you did?
Are you smoking something?

I am from Waikato - and have connections in Raglan, there's an area named after my father at Raglan in honor of all the conservation work and work he's done with local land issues, and I know who the main iwi for Te Kaharoa are (get on well with the Rickards and Keriopas) and I know who to ask about the situation.
But hey.... no worries if you want to be a dick about it

[wbks]

Um - did I miss something , I didn't get upset? you did?
Are you smoking something?

I am from Waikato - and have connections in Raglan, there's an area named after my father at Raglan in honor of all the conservation work and work he's done with local land issues, and I know the who the main iwi for Te Kaharoa are (get on well with the Rickards and Keriopas) and I know who to ask about the situation.
But hey.... no worries if you want to be a dick about itIt seemed like I hit a nerve because all I did was point out that you had misunderstood what seems like quite a simple paragraph and then called me sensitive and went off on a little tangent about the racist KB.co.nz. I didn't ask if anyone knew who to call (taniwha busters?) , just if there was a history of that kind of stuff there. Answer seems to be; that besides 1981 it seems pretty isolated. Sorry if I offended you, mate *bromantic punch on the arm*:yes:

[smoky]

It seemed like I hit a nerve because all I did was point out that you had misunderstood what seems like quite a simple paragraph
Did I? perhaps it was you who didn't understand

.....if that kind of stuff is common around there, or are these just random deadbeats?


they just don't like you

Asked and answered I thought (and I was being sarcastic)
No raw anything! You're the one who took offense, granted my humour is a bit weak


I didn't ask if anyone knew who to call (taniwha busters?) , just if there was a history of that kind of stuff there. Answer seems to be; that besides 1981 it seems pretty isolated.

Well then, if you're so confident that KB has assured you that the issues are isolated - go buy property. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

[rebel]

Get your gun licence, then remind them why we colonised half the world.

[wbks]

Did I? perhaps it was you who didn't understand




Asked and answered I thought (and I was being sarcastic)
No raw anything! You're the one who took offense, granted my humour is a bit weak How could they not like me when I asked if that is what happens, having never actually been there myself.



Well then, if you're so confident that KB has assured you that the issues are isolated - go buy property. Don't ask if you don't want to know.If I need to spell it out for you; I don't give a shit anymore now because these are the only answers I am getting (apart from blackbirds <3), I'll deal with it myself. It seems no one has been offended here, than

[smoky]

I don't give a shit anymore now because these are the only answers I am getting (apart from blackbirds <3), I'll deal with it myself.

Good on ya
:rofl:




I riro whenua atu, me hoki whenua mai Ko te moni, hei utu mo te hara

[wbks]

Good on ya
:rofl:




I riro whenua atu, me hoki whenua mai Ko te moni, hei utu mo te haraCare to explain in English? "As land was taken so should land be received"?

[ready4whatever]

if you have a power easement from the transformer you have the right to it

[smoky]

Care to explain in English? "As land was taken so should land be received"?The money is to pay for the crime

Under the Raupatu settlement the Tainui Trust Board received money for confiscated land around Raglan

Some locals have always viewed that the money is to pay for the crime, still waiting for the return of the land

Further to that, some see the whole settlement as the Crown establishing the Tainui Trust, defining which tribes are classed as Tainui, and who Tainui will represent - even if those Hapu disagreed they were included.

Their question is - whose land was taken? To whom was it returned? What was the crime? What money was paid. And to whom?

the saying; I riro whenua atu, me hoki whenua mai Ko te moni, hei utu mo te hara, is the expression used by those who still see a fight to fight in Raglan - they say they lost their land and have received neither compensation nor land back

If the squatters are going along those lines - they may have more support than you realise, or they could just be drop kicks claiming tino rangatiratanga and haven't got a clue about it nor local support

[JimO]

Some locals have always viewed that the money is to pay for the crime,



they get paid for crime now????

[wbks]

Under the Raupatu settlement the Tainui Trust Board received money for confiscated land around Raglan

Some locals have always viewed that the money is to pay for the crime, still waiting for the return of the land

Further to that, some see the whole settlement as the Crown establishing the Tainui Trust, defining which tribes are classed as Tainui, and who Tainui will represent - even if those Hapu disagreed they were included.

Their question is - whose land was taken? To whom was it returned? What was the crime? What money was paid. And to whom?

the saying; I riro whenua atu, me hoki whenua mai Ko te moni, hei utu mo te hara, is the expression used by those who still see a fight to fight in Raglan - they say they lost their land and have received neither compensation nor land back

If the squatters are going along those lines - they may have more support than you realise, or they could just be drop kicks claiming tino rangatiratanga and haven't got a clue about it nor local supportThanks for that, very informative. Doesn't sound like they have local support considering aparantly they have been trying to use some Maori trust or something which some official isn't very happy about. What would be the worst to happen if they did have "local support" and I went ahead and had them removed from my house and moved right in?:scooter:

[smoky]

What would be the worst to happen if they did have "local support" and I went ahead and had them removed from my house and moved right in?:scooter:

Depends I guess - recently there was an Australian business man who bought a place up north - same situation, rent hadn't been paid, he purchased it and they were given the correct amount of time to vacate - they stayed, police wouldn't help unless he got an eviction order or right to occupy order from the courts. Took months.
It cost him shit loads, they had their day in court and moved out - but now he's selling it because he's worried that after he's fixed it up, they'll torch it!

Not really the win win situation he was hoping for

But then again - they just might see reason and move, have you tried asking them what they would do

[wbks]

Mate I haven't even gone there yet, this was all just for curiosity's sake, if I actually have any trouble with it of course I'll talk about it

[smoky]

The story about the business man up north was on the news tonight

[wbks]

The story about the business man up north was on the news tonightYea, when I saw it I thought you must be pretty on to it to know of him moving out before it came on the news...

[Laava]

if you have a power easement from the transformer you have the right to it
Might not be that simple. You do not need an easement to run your own personal supply over your property. The easement could be for general supply or for a neighbours supply but if , like my mate, you are the first to get the power connected, you will have to buy a transformer. It cost him 10g and he was told that as the neighbours connected, they would have to reimburse him. Not a good situation esp if you fall out with them.

[fire eyes]

I wouldn't even waste my energy on looking at a piece of property being claimed by a group of people .. exception would be Nudists, Im sure we could come to a compromise :gob: :shutup:

[JimO]

I wouldn't even waste my energy on looking at a piece of property being claimed by a group of people .. exception would be Nudists, Im sure we could come to a compromise :gob: :shutup:

especially fucken hori's

[short-circuit]

especially fucken hori's

Well done a thread dredge for what? To declare your racism again?

Did you search specifically for Maori?

Why not just ring talk radio?

[JimO]

Well done a thread dredge for what? To declare your racism again?

Did you search specifically for Maori?

Why not just ring talk radio?

why dont you go fuck yourself

[SixPackBack]

especially fucken hori's

'fucken hori's.............Whats with that jimjim? Not cool bro, not cool at all!

[short-circuit]

why dont you go fuck yourself

Hee hee - you did the dredging and then fell on your own sword.

I loved the Red rep for not liking Robbie Williams...

Racist and a homo with shit taste in music.

Awesome

[Jantar]

[QUOTE=short-circuit;1129378597]Well done a thread dredge......[QUOTE]
This thread was started 24th August 2009, 17:15. That hardly qualifies as a thread dredge.

[short-circuit]

Well done a thread dredge......
This thread was started 24th August 2009, 17:15. That hardly qualifies as a thread dredge.

He still went scrolling through 4 pages just to unleash his pointless prejudiced utterances....For what? So he could confirm he's a moron? Mission accomplished :clap:

[JimO]

Hee hee - you did the dredging and then fell on your own sword.

I loved the Red rep for not liking Robbie Williams...

Racist and a homo with shit taste in music.

Awesome

boo fucken hoo call the waaambulance ya baby :laugh: you like to dish it out but cant take it

[JimO]

'fucken hori's.............Whats with that jimjim? Not cool bro, not cool at all!

that what they re called here

[SixPackBack]

that what they re called here

Best you stay in red neck wonderland then jimjim.

[short-circuit]

boo fucken hoo call the waaambulance ya baby :laugh: you like to dish it out but cant take it

Who sez I can't take it? Take what?

You just didn't like being called on it princess

[short-circuit]

Who sez I can't take it? Take what?

You just didn't like being called on it princess



Oh you mean Red....like I give a fuck about that. I was merely making it transparent what the exchange was actually for: -

RED From me to you for being a rascist

RED From you to me because you get off on Robbie Williams (just a retaliation chip cause jimjim got bummed out hard)


Like I always say - coming from morons like you it's kudos.

[JimO]

Oh you mean Red....

RED From me to you for being a rascist





actually you gave me a green for that not a red moron im not a racist i like maoris, everybody should have one:2guns:

[fire eyes]

im not a racist i like maoris, everybody should have one:2guns:

and everyone needs a jimjim ... lots of ways to use a jimjim .. especially come hangi time .. no hang on .. pig-on-a-spit a better option .. mmmmmm ... wonder what jimjims crackling tastes like ... <_<

[JimO]

and everyone needs a jimjim ... lots of ways to use a jimjim .. especially come hangi time .. no hang on .. pig-on-a-spit a better option .. mmmmmm ... wonder what jimjims crackling tastes like ... <_<



havnt evolved far eh boy!!! teeheehee bro

[fire eyes]

havnt evolved far eh boy!!! teeheehee bro

boy????

Nah havent evolved to far when it comes to meat-on-a-stick .. always had a thing for the archaic .. hmm .. whatchu up to today jimjim .. hungry? I am.

[short-circuit]

boy????

Nah havent evolved to far when it comes to meat-on-a-stick .. always had a thing for the archaic .. hmm .. whatchu up to today jimjim .. hungry? I am.

I wouldn't fire eyes - tough, old and bitter would be my guess. The only fleshy bits being mainly fat (particularly inside the skull)

[scracha]

has all that crap going on, and then ask a predominately racist forum of bike riders for advice on something like that - unless your just wanting to stir up a

Who are you calling a racist?


fuckin thick Kiwi's...sheesh

[smoky]

Who are you calling a racist?


fuckin thick Kiwi's...sheesh

no one, but I must of hit a raw nerve

[short-circuit]

no one, but I must of hit a raw nerve

Not hard to weed em out is it Smoky

[smoky]

His location is somewhere between Matamata (redneck country) and Paeroa (a fair bit of trailer trash around there)
I went to a wedding their once;

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[scracha]

Paeroa (a fair bit of trailer trash around there)

You'e got me..i'm a trailer trash racist.