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swanman
6th April 2005, 13:14
I know that there are a lot of computer specialists on KB so here is a question for you.

I am currently learning how to use Autocad. Anyway I get to a part where you have to use the greater than and less than sign to make it do something. Well the symbols are on the the keyboard but I can not make them work. All other keys work. On this keyboard you have to shift on the key to get it to happend. This is an IBM R32 laptop, so far it has been a very good computer indeed. I called IBM (I am out of warranty) and they said take it to a local shop. I am sure there is a simple fix to get these 2 keys working again, maybe a keyboard reset thing or whatever..funny how all the other keys work with shift except these 2!!

Over to you..

riffer
6th April 2005, 13:19
Is it a keyboard mapping problem or a keyboard hardware problem?

Do the keys work in other programs?

bugjuice
6th April 2005, 13:20
well in that paragraph, you've got both the , and . keys goin. The < and > keys are the same thing with the shift key pressed at the same time. And I know your shift key works, cos you have caps, unless you're using the caps-lock key (say it 3 times and WINJA pops up), in which case, that wouldn't work.

You have 1 or 2 shift keys on the keyboard? If one is broke, the other should work..

or am I missing the point?

and an R32 is a pretty nice Skyline..

swanman
6th April 2005, 13:25
Very good calls.

If I use the first shift key I get this ,,,,,,........ depending on greater or lesser than if I use the alternate shift key I get this,,,,,,,......... so same. This is the case in all programs. I am sure that a while ago this wasn't a problem. If I use the shif key with the "2" I get "@" as it should be etc...

jrandom
6th April 2005, 13:26
Over to you..

I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but can I come round, look at the laptop, stroke my chin stubble while trying to appear wise, and then hang out and drink beer anyway?

bugjuice
6th April 2005, 13:27
Very good calls.

If I use the first shift key I get this ,,,,,,........ depending on greater or lesser than if I use the alternate shift key I get this,,,,,,,......... so same. This is the case in all programs. I am sure that a while ago this wasn't a problem. If I use the shif key with the "2" I get "@" as it should be etc...
*sucks thru teeth*
sounds buggered mate. should have bought the extended warrenty.

Fryin Finn
6th April 2005, 13:30
I use Autocad. I just tried and the greater and lesser symbols typed up fine.
I was using Iso font. Some other fonts don't use the keyboard symbols and quite often substitute a letter for a ?.
Also check the country set up for keyboards - in control panel check out keyboard and input locales on tab.

swanman
6th April 2005, 13:38
Bugger might have to take it to a shop, $$$$. Any good ones ALbany, Northshore???

Devil
6th April 2005, 13:56
You might need to confirm that you've got the right type of keyboard selected (Should be standard US), but I cant talk you through changing this, brain is on other things. Easier to look at in person.

James Deuce
6th April 2005, 14:02
LAptops sometimes have a another key that needs to be activated to access the keys you are after. It may be marked FN or Function. You'll have to hold it down as you would the shift key e.g Fn + .

MrMelon
6th April 2005, 14:26
I've seen this problem on some toshiba laptops. it was caused when the wrong keyboard map was selected. Eg. English (Intl) instead of English (US).

FzerozeroT
6th April 2005, 15:57
Just go into the autocad settings and re-bind those keys.

Eddieb
6th April 2005, 16:47
...Or open word/notepad/whatever, hold down the shift key and press every key that has a shift+symbol option till they appear.

At least then you will know if it's a key mapping problem. They will appear on one of the keys somewhere.

pyrocam
6th April 2005, 16:52
as pm'ed but might be helpfull to other KB'rs

I am a computer insurance assesor by proffesion.
Under the right circumstances I can ussually do work such as repairs etc cheaper than most places. If I do it myself for a KB'r it will be hella cheap. if I pass it on to my tech's it will be proberly be just the insurance price.

If your a regular KB'r I can ussually come visit anywhere in auckland after hours (depending on my schedule)

cheers

swanman
7th April 2005, 18:04
Fuck me. Got the computer back they tell me the keyboard is buggered on those 2 keys. So i buy another keyboard and plug that in to usb port. All good except still the same problem! So that means it is not the keys at all but some sort of set up/software thing! How do I reset the keys etc to correct standard???

Hang on fuck me again!!! The greater than lesser than keys are now in tilde key the one above the apostrophe top left of key board. So they were there all the time hiding somewhere else.

jrandom
7th April 2005, 18:08
Fuck me. Got the computer back they tell me the keyboard is buggered on those 2 keys. So i buy another keyboard and plug that in to usb port. All good except still the same problem!

Jeez. What morons. Do NOT pay their bill. Unless you already have...

jrandom
7th April 2005, 18:08
Ah, I see. You need to change the keyboard country mapping. Straightforward job.

swanman
7th April 2005, 18:15
Ah, I see. You need to change the keyboard country mapping. Straightforward job.

Yes, so how do u do that? Control panel/keyboard/.......>>>><<<<<?

>>>>><<<<< wait I've done it, yipeeeeeeee. >>><<<< those morons told me some crap. Cost $30 for a keyboard and a mouse. Still I'll keep em as they are much easier to use than the laptop keyboard..>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<< ah the sweet taste of sucess.....

Oh Comet Internet in Henderson, don't go there!!!!!!!

dveus
7th April 2005, 18:29
Fuck me. Got the computer back they tell me the keyboard is buggered on those 2 keys. So i buy another keyboard and plug that in to usb port. All good except still the same problem! So that means it is not the keys at all but some sort of set up/software thing! How do I reset the keys etc to correct standard???


It always keeps me amused when staff come into work asking me If what they were told really meant anything, Tis amazing some of the stuff sales people will try if they think the people there selling to have little knowledge. The number of times I've heard people being sold new hard disks to fix a simple windows software error must be nearing triple figures.