Honda SP?

[Sidewinder]

what one should i get? its been a few years snice i meet my first SP and i think its time to own one!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports//auction-236994493.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-234512216.htm

[Pussy]

The SP3 would be a goodie....

[MattRSK]

SP3 looks better value. The number plate would suit too. Nice bikes!

[Sidewinder]

yea sp2 upwards is a better bike. supose the white one is the go, just hate the gay megaphone cans the put on! needs the matching ackro cans to go with the headers.

[The Pastor]

yea sp2 upwards is a better bike. supose the white one is the go, just hate the gay megaphone cans the put on! needs the matching ackro cans to go with the headers.
i like those cans, but who cares im gay!

[325rocket]

heres a couple of reviews from superbike uk mag

SP1

"nasty fuel injection glitch detracts from race proven motor and chassis. neither comfortable nor practical, the SP1 was always best suited to track days and / or short distance scratching."

SP2

"rough throttle response and lack of ground clearance are major gripes."

personally i think the SP2 is a fucking awesome bike.

not a big fan of those cans on the SP3 in that listing though eh.

[Pussy]

The fork mods, PC etc on the SP 3 would go a long way towards sorting any problems with the bike.
Put some Akrapovic cans to go with the headers, an Ohlins on the back, custom PC map by Gary Pendleton, and it will be a weapon!

[gatch]

I've always had a boner for the sp's, get the sp3 man, fuckin A.

I think from memory the sp2 ? has 62mm throttle bodies ! Just about big enough to suck in a 4cyl piston and shoot it out the back :D

[Sidewinder]

I've always had a boner for the sp's, get the sp3 man, fuckin A.

I think from memory the sp2 ? has 62mm throttle bodies ! Just about big enough to suck in a 4cyl piston and shoot it out the back :D

yea they are just horney and there a bike that id get no matter how good or shit they were just because they make me weak at the knees

[Chooky]

Well I'm not trying to piss on your lollies, but... I got a SP1 in 2000 and I can say its probably the worst bike I've ever owned....
Paid 29 grand for it, lost a heap when I traded it.

Terrible thing round town,had a real bad snatch from a closed throttle.
Bad "snatch"in the 2500 to 3500 rpm range, which meant at 50kph you had to leave it in 2nd and run it at 4 grand {cool sound}, or in 4th and run it at 2 grand so it sounded like a Harley {not quite that bad}.
Pegs were too high, bars too low, seat too hard...Heavy bike and underpowered compared to in line 4's....and was way overgeared...hardly ever saw 6th gear.

But with all those shaft driven cams, it had a unique whistling sound to it.

Fuck all were imported here and I believe that in 10 or 20 years they will become very collectable, like the CBX.:cool:

[Sidewinder]

Well I'm not trying to piss on your lollies, but... I got a SP1 in 2000 and I can say its probably the worst bike I've ever owned....
Paid 29 grand for it, lost a heap when I traded it.

Terrible thing round town,had a real bad snatch from a closed throttle.
Bad "snatch"in the 2500 to 3500 rpm range, which meant at 50kph you had to leave it in 2nd and run it at 4 grand {cool sound}, or in 4th and run it at 2 grand so it sounded like a Harley {not quite that bad}.
Pegs were too high, bars too low, seat too hard...Heavy bike and underpowered compared to in line 4's....and was way overgeared...hardly ever saw 6th gear.

But with all those shaft driven cams, it had a unique whistling sound to it.

Fuck all were imported here and I believe that in 10 or 20 years they will become very collectable, like the CBX.:cool:

bro you make me want one even more that you have said that. i like high pegs, low bars and hard seat! and way more power than a vtr, just needs a new front end so it has real brakes on it an throw on some brembo mono blocks

[325rocket]

Bad "snatch"in the 2500 to 3500 rpm range,

the last thing you want is a bad snatch.
do you think it could be smoothed out with a power commander?

[CHOPPA]

The SP1 would be my pick, its the best looking bike! Thats all that matters....

Also there is only SP1s and SP2s an sp4 is just a 2004 sp2...

[Chooky]

the last thing you want is a bad snatch.
do you think it could be smoothed out with a power commander?

Yea, snatch was the only word I could think of to describe it, and yes Powercommander did fix it..

[Sidewinder]

the last thing you want is a bad snatch.
do you think it could be smoothed out with a power commander?

haha you get use to it when you just grab a handful of gas when ya wana move

its all about carroter points

[CHOPPA]

Actually the white one is pretty nice!

[HenryDorsetCase]

You're not allowed to buy either because I want one as well. (joking....)

:bash:


and for similar reasons.

I think they're iconic not quite in the same way as an RC30 RC45 but still bloody cool. And the motors were built by HRC, apparently.

Ive spoken to both of those owners, both nice people, both I would buy a bike from. I think that the SP3 is a better buy because it is NZ new (so not stickered RVT) less kms and slightly newer. Its obviously been down on the LHS and i have higher rez photos as well: all fixable. The other thing is that the SP3 has had major money expended on fruit (fork rebuild, pC3 etc)

The guy with the SP3 said to me that the SP2 is in fact an SP1 (RC51 in the US) "And its obvious, look at the swingarm" I have no idea if he is correct or not, thats passing on what he said FWIW.

I would also be looking for some Akra cans for the SP3 (yay, ebay!)

I just can't swing the coin at present. :(

Oh and I started a thread on it also: might be some useful info there.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=105798

[Sidewinder]

Actually the white one is pretty nice!

i like it better too!
gay cans on it tho

[Pussy]

i like high pegs, low bars and hard seat!
You would.... seeing as how you've been more severely beaten about the ring than Jimmy Peau

the last thing you want is a bad snatch.
do you think it could be smoothed out with a power commander?

Yes, good snatch is better!
And a custom mapped Power Commander really sorts them

[Sidewinder]

You would.... seeing as how you've been more severely beaten about the ring than Jimmy Peau


Yes, good snatch is better!
And a custom mapped Power Commander really sorts them

yea when ya crash so many times you get molded to the shape of a bike

[HenryDorsetCase]

here ya go (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Titanium-Akrapovic-Exhaust-and-PC-III-for-RC-51-SP2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQha shZitem1c0c09d742QQitemZ120461055810QQptZMotorcycl esQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

[Chooky]

Here ya go..........:)

[gatch]

A bad snatch you say, the bad ones are most fun to ride..

Last one left scratches all up my chest and back..

[Sidewinder]

A bad snatch you say, the bad ones are most fun to ride..

Last one left scratches all up my chest and back..

snatchs are all good! taste abit salty and smell abit fishy but love them!:woohoo:

[gatch]

snatchs are all good! taste abit salty and smell abit fishy but love them!:woohoo:

Christ no don't eat em, they'll hang around like a bad smell..

[Sidewinder]

Christ no don't eat em, they'll hang around like a bad smell..

haha and some need a towl lol

[mossy1200]

bro you make me want one even more that you have said that. i like high pegs, low bars and hard seat! and way more power than a vtr, just needs a new front end so it has real brakes on it an throw on some brembo mono blocks
i had sp1 in 2001.Paid 29k then they droped to 20k so lost money on that big time.
If you remove the induction nose restriction flap they run well in lower revs.
Takes about 1/2 hr to do so and it changes the bottom end.
Not great two up so sold mine but great bike for brisk winding roads.
Fuel range wasnt great.Average 180 km

Would go for the sp3.Seems good value.
I had rsv mille 2000 model prior and prefered the sp1.

[hospitalfood]

its still a honda sidewinder, which i guess means that you are still chasing boys

[Sidewinder]

its still a honda sidewinder, which i guess means that you are still chasing boys

who said i ever stopped?
already had two

[gatch]

its still a honda sidewinder, which i guess means that you are still chasing boys

I never can understand the whole "honda is gay" thing..

Why, why are they gay !

[Sidewinder]

I never can understand the whole "honda is gay" thing..

Why, why are they gay !

they had aaron slightly gay,
graig shirtlift
and hayden fatboygearld:scooter::woohoo::woohoo:

[Maha]

I never can understand the whole "honda is gay" thing..

Why, why are they gay !

hospitalfood has the 'prettiest' XB in the land, that being said, to answer your question, its a myth spawned out of jealousy by those with lesser machines. :rockon:

[Maha]

they had aaron slightly gay,
graig shirtlift
and hayden fatboygearld:scooter::woohoo::woohoo:

Not forgetting
Rossi 01' and 02'
Wayne Gardner.
Doohanguys
Kockinski.

[Boob Johnson]

Not even a question, def the SP3, NZ new & one owner for starters. Agreed the pipes do look a lil gay, might look different in person but?

[Boob Johnson]

I never can understand the whole "honda is gay" thing..

Why, why are they gay !
As Maha said, jealousy. Honda's are well known to NOT break down, ultra realible, cars too.

[Sidewinder]

Not even a question, def the SP3, NZ new & one owner for starters. Agreed the pipes do look a lil gay, might look different in person but?
they look like there off a gn250

[Boob Johnson]

they look like there off a gn250
Probably are :shutup::lol:

[Sidewinder]

Probably are :shutup::lol:

just with a bit of autoslo on them:wari:

[DEATH_INC.]

Not forgetting
Rossi 01' and 02'

Um, so how does this prove they aren't gay???? :Pokey:
Na, even I have a bit of a soft spot for sp1/2/3's. From my rusty memory they can be tickled up pretty easily too.

[HDTboy]

SP3 no contest. Red Baron haven't touched it

[tee]

what one should i get? its been a few years snice i meet my first SP and i think its time to own one!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports//auction-236994493.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-234512216.htm


Dude - I'm about to sell my Ray Clee built HRC spec'd SP1/SP2. Motor is in his shop being freshened up now ..... I only did one track day on it about 3 years ago, and now decided to work on it - Has billet stg 2 cams, HRC high comp pistons, crank work, and a stack of HRC go fast bits, retainers/springs & headwork - it's had a bucket load of money thrown at it - GP spec ti brembo's, Maxton rear shock, adjustable off-set tripples, Magnesium Marchesini's, full Akro Ti system - ECU map to be sorted by Ray (plenty more other gear) - same price as that SP3 you're thinking of (the SP3 is an SP2 BTW). The larger throttle bodies actually screwed the mid-range on the road spec 51 - They were designed for the HRC WSBK race bike.

[Spyke]

get a TLR way better for price

[imdying]

get a TLR way better for price
Bahahahaahah, fat pig, or this for another $4k..

Ray Clee built HRC spec'd SP1/SP2. Motor is in his shop being freshened up now ..... I only did one track day on it about 3 years ago, and now decided to work on it - Has billet stg 2 cams, HRC high comp pistons, crank work, and a stack of HRC go fast bits, retainers/springs & headwork - it's had a bucket load of money thrown at it - GP spec ti brembo's, Maxton rear shock, adjustable off-set tripples, Magnesium Marchesini's, full Akro Ti system - ECU map to be sorted by Ray (plenty more other gear)
No contest... not in the same ball park, hell not even the same game.

[mashman]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-236467066.htm

Already comes with Ohlins front and rear, has lightened wheels, some carbon fibre bodywork, brembo brakes, PC3, known for it's reliability etc...

[hospitalfood]

hospitalfood has the 'prettiest' XB in the land, that being said, to answer your question, its a myth spawned out of jealousy by those with lesser machines. :rockon:

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[imdying]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-236467066.htm

Already comes with Ohlins front and rear, has lightened wheels, some carbon fibre bodywork, brembo brakes, PC3, known for it's reliability etc...That's more like it... wouldn't want to be choosing between those two. I doubt that RSV will ever be collectible though, if that matters to ya. I wonder what getting parts for each will be like in 10 years time?

[mashman]

That's more like it... wouldn't want to be choosing between those two. I doubt that RSV will ever be collectible though, if that matters to ya. I wonder what getting parts for each will be like in 10 years time?

I'm sayin nuffin!!!

[Maha]

Um, so how does this prove they aren't gay???? :Pokey:
Na, even I have a bit of a soft spot for sp1/2/3's. From my rusty memory they can be tickled up pretty easily too.

So so glad you used the word 'soft' in your sentence!....:clap:

[Sidewinder]

Dude - I'm about to sell my Ray Clee built HRC spec'd SP1/SP2. Motor is in his shop being freshened up now ..... I only did one track day on it about 3 years ago, and now decided to work on it - Has billet stg 2 cams, HRC high comp pistons, crank work, and a stack of HRC go fast bits, retainers/springs & headwork - it's had a bucket load of money thrown at it - GP spec ti brembo's, Maxton rear shock, adjustable off-set tripples, Magnesium Marchesini's, full Akro Ti system - ECU map to be sorted by Ray (plenty more other gear) - same price as that SP3 you're thinking of (the SP3 is an SP2 BTW). The larger throttle bodies actually screwed the mid-range on the road spec 51 - They were designed for the HRC WSBK race bike.

fooking just made me cum!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Dude - I'm about to sell my Ray Clee built HRC spec'd SP1/SP2. Motor is in his shop being freshened up now ..... I only did one track day on it about 3 years ago, and now decided to work on it - Has billet stg 2 cams, HRC high comp pistons, crank work, and a stack of HRC go fast bits, retainers/springs & headwork - it's had a bucket load of money thrown at it - GP spec ti brembo's, Maxton rear shock, adjustable off-set tripples, Magnesium Marchesini's, full Akro Ti system - ECU map to be sorted by Ray (plenty more other gear) - same price as that SP3 you're thinking of (the SP3 is an SP2 BTW). The larger throttle bodies actually screwed the mid-range on the road spec 51 - They were designed for the HRC WSBK race bike.

that is awesome but I am assuming track only, no road bits at all?

[Sidewinder]

that is awesome but I am assuming track only, no road bits at all?

ride it on the road as is

[tee]

that is awesome but I am assuming track only, no road bits at all?

Yeah - unless you could hunt down a wrecked one and exchange all the "road" gear over.

[tee]

fooking just made me cum!

Forgot to mention - now has front mount radiators..........
:rolleyes:

[Sidewinder]

Forgot to mention - now has front mount radiators..........
:rolleyes:
omg wtf dude! your a tease