1.4 billion people live in poverty

[smoky]

1.4 billion people on our planet live in extreme poverty. So what’s new?

Lets face it - we're fortunate to not be part of the 1.4 billion, even the poorest of us in this country are wealthy compared to the vast majority.

Not that we should feel guilty or anything but; what if you could actually help without being harassed for money, with out to much of an effort you can make a huge difference to their lives.
So come along and learn how – so next time you’re out indulging in our environment destroying, fossil fuel burning, carbon admitting polluting addiction, you can ride feeling better about yourself as a person

Seriously though; the Global Poverty Project is a global movement trying to encourage people like us to take effective concerted action on poverty.

The Global Poverty Project is not after your money. The presentation explains how your everyday actions - in what you learn, say, buy, give and do - can be connected to the ending of extreme poverty. Small actions in your life can create big opportunities for the world's poorest.
Come and see a simple presentation ‘1.4 billion reasons’, the 90 minute presentation clearly articulates the facts of extreme poverty and demonstrates that by making simple changes everyone can be a part of the solution.

So come along and become a part of the movement to end extreme poverty.
Check the link for dates and venues;
http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/events/

For those in Hamilton; 31 Aug 2009 07:00pm Waikato University, Price Waterhouse Coopers Lecture Theatre, in the MSB (Waikato Management School Building)

[carver]

no one gives a shit.
corruption leads to poverty

[Muppet]

What a load of shit. You people always aim at the most heavily taxed group-the middle class. You should go and listen to Dr Gareth Morgan who spent time in Africa on a bike trip. He said in order to get rid of poverty it will take a multi-national effort and you have go in guns blazing with billions of dollars to initiate infrastructure. Do think any of us have money to spare? Tens of thousands of people are about to lose their jobs in this country. Why don't you go to the USA and ask them for money? They'll be sending people to Mars in the near future once they've finished invading everyone, they've got tons of cash.

[Boob Johnson]

A lack of money leads to poverty.........or so ive been told :blip:

[Molly]

1.4 billion in poverty? Didn't know Auckland was that big...

Incoming!!!

[Muppet]

no one gives a shit.
corruption leads to poverty

And while I'm at it, you are 100% correct, most of the money you send to "save Africa" goes into their governments coffers. Maybe the USA invading everyone is a good idea, next stop Zimbabwe:bash:

[carver]

And while I'm at it, you are 100% correct, most of the money you send to "save Africa" goes into their governments coffers. Maybe the USA invading everyone is a good idea, next stop Zimbabwe:bash:

maybe the best thing is not to give them any more...
they'll just waste it, or spend it on their armies/militant forces

[hospitalfood]

the best way to end poverty is to kill all the people

[ready4whatever]

apparently 60 percent of black americans are below the poverty line

[Elysium]

Too many people in Afrika and not enough Condoms. The pope can piss off.

[smoky]

What a load of shit. You people always aim at the most heavily taxed group-the middle class
You people?? what are you on about - do you think I'm American, a tree hugger or something, I'm not 'you people' I am me.
I work and support my family like anyone else, I ride a motorbike and shit stir on KB.


You should go and listen to Dr Gareth Morgan who spent time in Africa on a bike trip.
What makes you think I haven't, and I've read his books.
Rather than think you understand everything, dismiss it as 'not my problem' Gareth Morgan siad ....bla bla bla - why don't you find out the facts
And by the way - Gareth Morgan is not always right, and your interpretation of his thinking is not right either

[gatch]

maybe the best thing is not to give them any more...
they'll just waste it, or spend it on their armies/militant forces

Or more ivory back scratchers..

All the best intentions in the world isn't going to do any good without their greedy ass governments doing something for their people.

EDIT - And while this may make me sound like a real heartless cunt, I don't really care, the world is already vastly over populated, resources are being honed out faster than they can be replaced, if the impoverished masses suddenly are not impoverished anymore, the situation will only get exponentially worse. The truth hurts..

[smoky]

Just to remind those who didn't bother reading the post before spouting on about it;

what if you could actually help without being harassed for money, with out to much of an effort you can make a huge difference to their lives.

The Global Poverty Project is not after your money. The presentation explains how your everyday actions - in what you learn, say, buy, give and do - can be connected to the ending of extreme poverty.

Honestly some of you are so precious :innocent:

[smoky]

maybe the best thing is not to give them any more...
they'll just waste it, or spend it on their armies/militant forces

So why not come along and find out how you can help without sending money

[Lurch]

Yep money to the 3rd world nations isnt the solution. Changing the value of human life in 3rd world nations is the only solution and unfortunately I think it's a lost cause.

The greedy and the cruel rise to the top in such wastelands of human misery.

[Molly]

Hard to see kids suffering. If there was an easy solution it would've been adopted by now.

I suppose individually we're all pretty powerless so our response has to be more fundamental, long-term, and close to home. So, just be glad you're not one of those in poverty, respect this beautiful country we're lucky enough to live in, take care of your family and when you can, do something for someone else for no reason other than to help them out.

That's about all you can do.

[Mikkel]

WTF is this doing in GBR?

That aside, the only problem in the poor countries is that the western world has introduced AK-47s, Coca-Cola, Reality TV, etc. as part of the big exploitation project that has run for well over 200 years.

[ready4whatever]

think they need a snip-snip so no more babies. obvisously swamp water and aids isnt stopping them

[Lurch]

think they need a snip-snip so no more babies. obvisously swamp water and aids isnt stopping them

It is amazing how they are so keen on continuing their suffering eternally.

[wbks]

And while I'm at it, you are 100% correct, most of the money you send to "save Africa" goes into their governments coffers. Maybe the USA invading everyone is a good idea, next stop Zimbabwe:bash:Maybe if they see another oil or gas pipeline opportunity. Then that can go under the "fighting terrorism" or "for the real people of Afgha... Zimbabwe" banner

[wbks]

WTF is this doing in GBR?

That aside, the only problem in the poor countries is that the western world has introduced AK-47s, Coca-Cola, Reality TV, etc. as part of the big exploitation project that has run for well over 200 years.Ummm... What?:blink:

[smoky]

Yep money to the 3rd world nations isnt the solution. Changing the value of human life in 3rd world nations is the only solution and unfortunately I think it's a lost cause.

The greedy and the cruel rise to the top in such wastelands of human misery.
100% agree


Hard to see kids suffering. If there was an easy solution it would've been adopted by now.

I suppose individually we're all pretty powerless so our response has to be more fundamental, long-term, and close to home. .... take care of your family and when you can, do something for someone else for no reason other than to help them out.

I know the screwed up state of the world, how little we can do about it, and giving money to organisations - who knows what the money is being used for

But if you were doing something that was having a devastating effect on another persons life, and it cost you nothing to stop doing that - why not

[gatch]

But if you were doing something that was having a devastating effect on another persons life, and it cost you nothing to stop doing that - why not

Interesting.. Example ?

[Lurch]

Interesting.. Example ?

Stop going to fucking StarBucks

[carver]

So why not come along and find out how you can help without sending money

ah, possibly not, due to me not really giving a fuck about anyone else but myself

[gatch]

Fuck starbucks, it's just a hangout for emo's and people that like to think they are cutting edge.

[smoky]

Interesting.. Example ?


Expressing my own personal ideas around capitalist behavior; I try to support fair trade options over other products, support companies that have a social conscience - I was appalled this week to find out that New Zealand's dairy industry relies on importing palm Kernel feed in order to increase productivity and profits - it seems they don't give a toss about the destruction of rain-forests, the confiscation of land from villages who can no longer sustain themselves.
Our dairy industry is supporting wealthy dictatorships that steal from those who can't defend themselves and are now in poverty

Just like a change in behavior lately by normal consumers like you and me - forced Cadburys to back down and stop using palm oil

The more people who express their opinion the better, it's not a hopeless situation
In the past decade positive action has halved the number of people in extreme poverty

[wbks]

Expressing my own personal ideas around capitalist behavior; I try to support fair trade options over other products, support companies that have a social conscience - I was appalled this week to find out that New Zealand's dairy industry relies on importing palm Kernel feed in order to increase productivity and profits - it seems they don't give a toss about the destruction of rain-forests, the confiscation of land from villages who can no longer sustain themselves.
Our dairy industry is supporting wealthy dictatorships that steal from those who can't defend themselves and are now in poverty
Isn't it a little counter productive for you to ride a petrol powered motorcycle, than?

[smoky]

Isn't it a little counter productive for you to ride a petrol powered motorcycle, than?

yep - and your point?

[wbks]

yep - and your point?I wasn't trying to call you out or anything, I was just wondering if you were one of these people that either tries to discount that with some excuse or admit it, or not realize it.

[smoky]

I do wonder some times how hypercritical it is to say you care about the planet and in your spare time you pollute it

But When it comes to poverty, if there's something I can do to help - why not

[jaymzw]

Our dairy industry is supporting wealthy dictatorships that steal from those who can't defend themselves and are now in poverty



Bullshit!

The NZ Dairy industry are supporting themselves. Dairy is our number one export, i dont care if some Malaysians lose their village because we are protecting it. If Fontera cant meet the World Price then the countries we sell to look elsewhere and we suffer as a whole. New Zealand is a price taker, we cannot make a difference in the world. However in saying that, if you and i can make a difference in your town and it doesn't cost a cent then why not.

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

[wbks]

I do wonder some times how hypercritical it is to say you care about the planet and in your spare time you pollute it

But When it comes to poverty, if there's something I can do to help - why notI wasn't talking about pollution (although of course that counts), I was talking about more direct effects that harm people through the making and selling of oil and gas

[rainman]

no one gives a shit.
capitalism leads to poverty

Fixed that for you.


Why don't you go to the USA and ask them for money?

I LOL'ed.


The greedy and the cruel rise to the top in such wastelands of human misery.

Hang on, I thought you were talking about the 3rd world...

[Dave Lobster]

corruption leads to poverty


apparently 60 percent of black americans are below the poverty line


And while I'm at it, you are 100% correct, most of the money you send to "save Africa" goes into their governments coffers.


A lack of money leads to poverty........

Letting/encouraging black people into positions of power is what leads to poverty.

[smoky]

Is poverty a race issue

[James Deuce]

Is poverty a race issue

Yes. The MotoGP grids are shrinking.

[smoky]

i dont care if some Malaysians lose their village because we are protecting it. If Fontera cant meet the World Price then the countries we sell to look elsewhere and we suffer as a whole.

Yeah - I just don't want to be that kind of person thank you very much

[Big Dave]

Forget the poor - let's spend a few more Trillion on weapons.

[davereid]

The poor nations of the world generally enjoy corrupt leadership. No amount of welfare, trade, or exploitation of minerals will help, while politicians remain able to help themselves to the cream by force.

And our obsession with global warming will help make them even poorer.

If we choose to make carbon reductions of 40% as proposed by Greenpeace, palm oil will be the least of the third world problems.

We will buy their food so we can ferment it and burn it in our cars while oil sits in the ground.

We will hamstring our own economies with taxes that reduce our real ability to be productive, so their efforts at trade will be thwarted before they begin.

We will ban them cutting down their own trees, as we need them as carbon sinks.

Strangely, no one has been injured by global warming. But our hysteria about it staves millons already, and its gonna be a great growth industry.

[Mikkel]

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

Hmmm, not so easy... but I could name you a few wealthy dictators. I guess some perks must come along with any job that lowers your life expectancy - except from commercial diving that is.

[mashman]

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

The Vatican?

Nothing will change if Economy instead of People is the goal of a countries leadership...

[sunhuntin]

It is amazing how they are so keen on continuing their suffering eternally.

lol. no energy to dig a garden, but tons of energy to rape virgin babies in the thought it will cure their aids. someone on tardme made a good point the other day. if they are really starving, why havent they resorted to cannabalism? if its good enough for that sports team that got trapped in the mountains when their plane crashed...

[jaymzw]

The Vatican?

Nothing will change if Economy instead of People is the goal of a countries leadership...

I'd say the Vatican would be asset rich cash poor. But even Pope Benedict is elected

[jaymzw]

Yeah - I just don't want to be that kind of person thank you very much

Vote for the GREEN PARTY

[carver]

Fixed that for you.





and the alternitave?

[hutchy52]

A lot of these countries in poverty have birth rates of around 7 children per woman. There are already too many people living there for people to be fed properly, yet they continue their population growth.

Perhaps they should send them food parcels with the added benefit of making them sterile.

[Grahameeboy]

What a load of shit. You people hoalways aim at the most heavily taxed group-the middle class. You should go and listen to Dr Gareth Morgan who spent time in Africa on a bike trip. He said in order to get rid of poverty it will take a multi-national effort and you have go in guns blazing with billions of dollars to initiate infrastructure. Do think any of us have money to spare? Tens of thousands of people are about to lose their jobs in this country. Why don't you go to the USA and ask them for money? They'll be sending people to Mars in the near future once they've finished invading everyone, they've got tons of cash.

Who needs negative vibes with such a positive attitude as you..?

Where are these 10's of thousands about to lose their jobs?

There is some good shit... http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/ ....trouble is he is a Christian..you know those bloody do gooders...

[James Deuce]

A lot of these countries in poverty have birth rates of around 7 children per woman. There are already too many people living there for people to be fed properly, yet they continue their population growth.

Perhaps they should send them food parcels with the added benefit of making them sterile.

7 births. I'd bet 2 of them make it to 5 years old. They perform vital household functions like the two hour round trip to collect clean water for the day's use, before school. If they are lucky enough to have a school within 20 kms.

Wherever the "there" is you're imagining, a lack of food is seldom the reason for famine.

[Grahameeboy]

A lot of these countries in poverty have birth rates of around 7 children per woman. There are already too many people living there for people to be fed properly, yet they continue their population growth.

Perhaps they should send them food parcels with the added benefit of making them sterile.

You have to realise that in these Countries more kids = wealth for the family..doing tasks like getting water etc...high child mortality rate means that they have more kids knowing some will die young etc...more kids...more farmers / helpers...it's they way they think...was the same in UK a few hundred years ago with the Industrial Revolution and before then

[MattRSK]

Hey thought I would get in on all this sympathy. Send some money my way i'm poor as shit!

Thanks
Matt

[James Deuce]

Why don't you go to the USA and ask them for money?

Like rainman I LOLed.

So you haven't been following the reasons behind the current recession then?

China owns the USA, literally. Thanks to a corporation called AIG. AIG collapses, and you'll be as poor as a Delhi untouchable, and there is not one thing you can do about it.

The poverty you'll see in the US is vastly worse than anything you'll see in most of Africa.

[James Deuce]

Hey thought I would get in on all this sympathy. Send some money my way i'm poor as shit!

Thanks
Matt
Entirely deserved due to recent consumerist fit, isn't it?

[James Deuce]

You have to realise that in these Countries more kids = wealth for the family..doing tasks like getting water etc...high child mortality rate means that they have more kids knowing some will die young etc...more kids...more farmers / helpers...it's they way they think...was the same in UK a few hundred years ago with the Industrial Revolution and before then

Infant mortality rates were lower before the Industrial revolution. They didn't really improve in the UK until after WW1. Maternal deaths are something that has changed to the point where people demand a Coroner's inquest if a woman dies in childbirth.

[jrandom]

Africa's poor because:

(a) most of it is worthless for agriculture, and

(b) it's full of dishonest niggers who are thick as pigshit.

I'm not quite sure what any of us can do about either of those fundamental problems.

Homo sapiens may have evolved on the east African plains, but civilisation didn't happen until the species migrated off that continent.

[Grahameeboy]

Infant mortality rates were lower before the Industrial revolution. They didn't really improve in the UK until after WW1. Maternal deaths are something that has changed to the point where people demand a Coroner's inquest if a woman dies in childbirth.

Like I said.......I think we forget what "White" man was like back in the past and we now think it is only a "black" persons problem...

[wbks]

Africa's poor because:

(a) most of it is worthless for agriculture, and

(b) it's full of dishonest niggers who are thick as pigshit.

I'm not quite sure what any of us can do about either of those fundamental problems.Send people like you there to clean it all up?

[smoky]

before people come on here and go on about black people who deserve the misery they are born into, go on about how hopeless it is and we will never make a difference, or go on about how money that is donated ends up funding despots who use it to buy guns, why don't you read some of the following;

There are good new Zealanders making a difference all over the world;
http://www.livinghope.org.nz/
http://sites.google.com/site/kailakurihealth/Home
http://www.shimshaltrust.org.nz
http://www.knzrt.co.nz

Thru positive direct action over the past decade, the number of people in extreme poverty in the world has halved.

[Grahameeboy]

Hey thought I would get in on all this sympathy. Send some money my way i'm poor as shit!

Thanks
Matt

You will never experience real poverty............but in some ways I would agree that you are "poor"

[jrandom]

Send people like you there to clean it all up?

My point was more that any attempt to do so is doomed. Some parts of the world can support civilised societies, others can't.

Australia, for instance.

[Grahameeboy]

Africa's poor because:

(a) most of it is worthless for agriculture, and

(b) it's full of dishonest niggers who are thick as pigshit.

I'm not quite sure what any of us can do about either of those fundamental problems.

Homo sapiens may have evolved on the east African plains, but civilisation didn't happen until the species migrated off that continent.

You should be a JW.............

[Grahameeboy]

before people come on here and go on about black people who deserve the misery they are born into, go on about how hopeless it is and we will never make a difference, or go on about how money that is donated ends up funding despots who use it to buy guns, why don't you read some of the following;

There are good new Zealanders making a difference all over the world;
http://www.livinghope.org.nz/
http://sites.google.com/site/kailakurihealth/Home
http://www.shimshaltrust.org.nz
http://www.knzrt.co.nz

Thru positive direct action over the past decade, the number of people in extreme poverty in the world has halved.

I agree but http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/ is trying to change that.....

[jrandom]

You should be a JW.............

You should be a Buddhist.

[Grahameeboy]

You should be a Buddhist.

No cause they just hide in retreats and huuuummmmmmmm

[hutchy52]

7 births. I'd bet 2 of them make it to 5 years old. They perform vital household functions like the two hour round trip to collect clean water for the day's use, before school. If they are lucky enough to have a school within 20 kms.

Wherever the "there" is you're imagining, a lack of food is seldom the reason for famine.

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

[James Deuce]

before people come on here and go on about black people who deserve the misery they are born into, go on about how hopeless it is and we will never make a difference, or go on about how money that is donated ends up funding despots who use it to buy guns, why don't you read some of the following;

There are good new Zealanders making a difference all over the world;
http://www.livinghope.org.nz/
http://sites.google.com/site/kailakurihealth/Home
http://www.shimshaltrust.org.nz
http://www.knzrt.co.nz

Thru positive direct action over the past decade, the number of people in extreme poverty in the world has halved.

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

[Grahameeboy]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/

[peasea]

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

World (blinkered, myopic, politically-driven, tree-hugging, liberal, soft-cock, bleeding heart) Vision. That one?

[peasea]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

Or a couple of new 'souls'?

[hutchy52]

World (blinkered, myopic, politically-driven, tree-hugging, liberal, soft-cock, bleeding heart) Vision. That one?

That would be the one

[James Deuce]

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

The survial rate depends entirely on which part of the world you're talking about. I made some assumptions about your predispositions to ethnic prejudice and thought "Horn of Africa". You can't control birthrate in countries that don't educate the entirel populace so you are left with one option, and Genocide, isn't like, cool, mmmkay?

The world has never been short of food. Merely the will to give it away for nothing, and the desire of the recipients to distribute it.

The cause of most of the major famines have been logistical. When a rebel army refuses to let your aid through to a refugee camp full of people displaced by political action beyond their control, they aren't dyinbg of starvation. They are dying of direct military action.

The "First World", :Third World" descriptors were dropped from common usage quite some time ago. There are elements of the reactionary press attempting to normalise the phrases again though.

[James Deuce]

Or a couple of new 'souls'?

Arsehole - oops that just slipped out ;)

[smoky]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.
I wasn't saying they were? there are a lot of different organisations. The point I was making is that in some small way we can all make a difference, that it's not as hopeless or as much a waste of time helping as most people on here are saying.


I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website,
Actually I spent a number of years traveling thru different parts of the world - I've seen extreme poverty, I've seen the crippled, the hungry and the dead, the exploited, I've seen home and lives destroyed by war, and I've seen the difference good people are making, first hand


The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today..
100% on to it

That's what the Global Poverty Project is all about
That's what I'm inviting people to find out about
That's the intelligent sustainable answer

[peasea]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

Gotta tell you a story:

I have a brother who found a job in some far-flung shithole (Dubai, I think), well paid, etc. He lived in comfort while all around him were in need. One local begger had a huge growth on his side and a few of the 'imports' got to talking about him. "Let's put some cash together to fix this guy's growth and he'll be saved" etc etc. They put it to the begger and he refused (canny dude, this one) as it would remove his livelihood.

It's not just a NZ way of thinking is it?

Heaps of nations have millions to spend on guns etc to shoot each other to bits yet haven't got two grains of rice to rub together at tea time.

Go figure.......

[peasea]

Arsehole - oops that just slipped out ;)

If it slipped out of an areshole, you're doing it wrong.

[peasea]

That's the intelligent sustainable answer

What the blazes are you doing on kb with that?

[smoky]

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Interesting the contrast with us; forget about those starving or living in extreme poverty - they deserve it, stupid people. We've got enough to deal with - with our current obesity epidemic and diabetes epidemic

[peasea]

Interesting the contrast with us; forget about those starving or living in extreme poverty - they deserve it, stupid people. We've got enough to deal with - with our current obesity epidemic and diabetes epidemic

Don't look at me. I eat my vegies, rarely eat junk food (ie Mac's, KFC or BK etc) and work (mainly outdoors) for a living. I'm bang-on for my BMI, walk heaps, enjoy sex and laughter.

It's hard work getting attention at the emergency dept when you need it though.

[avgas]

Don't they have an ointment for poverty yet?

[peasea]

Don't they have an ointment for poverty yet?

I'm sure it will come, like Tamiflu for whatever ails you this year, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Leaky Building Flu etc.

Drug companies, gun companies, oil companies...

conspiracy companies....

[avgas]

http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/

What a lovely bullshit website - its funny ain't it. Seems black kids sell poverty better. Where in reality something like 80%! of the worlds poverty is in india and china.....but then again they already have strong religious beliefs, so they would be too hard to turn towards the light.

[avgas]

conspiracy companies....
Leave greenpeace, ccf and the salvation army out of this - they do some legitimate work so im told.

[wbks]

What a lovely bullshit website - its funny ain't it. Seems black kids sell poverty better. Where in reality something like 80%! of the worlds poverty is in india and china.....but then again they already have strong religious beliefs, so they would be too hard to turn towards the light."Lord's Resistance Army"... That worked

[peasea]

Leave greenpeace, ccf and the salvation army out of this - they do some legitimate work so im told.

Greenpeace?

Fuckwits one and all.

Ask me about unleaded gasoline...........that was their doing, a total carcinogenic fuckup in NZ.

[peasea]

What a lovely bullshit website - its funny ain't it. Seems black kids sell poverty better. Where in reality something like 80%! of the worlds poverty is in india and china.....but then again they already have strong religious beliefs, so they would be too hard to turn towards the light.

What light? The light of common sense?

[mstriumph]

......................

Homo sapiens may have evolved on the east African plains, but civilisation didn't happen until the species migrated off that continent.

yet in some instances tribal law is a damn sight more compassionate and practical than what it's been replaced with ...........

[Dave Lobster]

Heaps of nations have millions to spend on guns etc to shoot each other to bits yet haven't got two grains of rice to rub together at tea time.


India even has nuclear weapons, doesn't it?

I'd be surprised if they were cheaper than food/contraception.

[Grahameeboy]

What a lovely bullshit website - its funny ain't it. Seems black kids sell poverty better. Where in reality something like 80%! of the worlds poverty is in india and china.....but then again they already have strong religious beliefs, so they would be too hard to turn towards the light.

Check out "Learn More".....looks like an Asian lass to me.
Indian's are black!!
What a great attitude......

[Grahameeboy]

India even has nuclear weapons, doesn't it?

I'd be surprised if they were cheaper than food/contraception.

That's the Govt and Global Poverty is working with Govts to ensure that money goes to the poor

[Grahameeboy]

Interesting the contrast with us; forget about those starving or living in extreme poverty - they deserve it, stupid people. We've got enough to deal with - with our current obesity epidemic and diabetes epidemic

Why do they deserve it...our issues are self inflicted

[jaymzw]

India even has nuclear weapons, doesn't it?

I'd be surprised if they were cheaper than food/contraception.

It could be, although admittedly i dont know how much a Nuke actually costs. In the 60's the Indian Government tried to slow the birthrate in India by offering a days wages, or a portable radio to every man who snip snipped his whip whip. How much money/radios would that be?

[Elysium]

What a lovely bullshit website - its funny ain't it. Seems black kids sell poverty better. Where in reality something like 80%! of the worlds poverty is in india and china.....but then again they already have strong religious beliefs, so they would be too hard to turn towards the light.

Those ungrateful indians had it good under British rule, now look at them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSgy_KyHOc

[Mikkel]

Ask me about unleaded gasoline...........that was their doing, a total carcinogenic fuckup in NZ.

Yes, because tetra-ethyl lead is, as we all know, the mainstay of all dietary supplements. :weird:

[imdying]

Fuckin hippys... better them than us.

If you want something important to worry about, worry about the dwindling fields in motogp.

[James Deuce]

I already said that in post 37.:nya:

[Grahameeboy]

It could be, although admittedly i dont know how much a Nuke actually costs. In the 60's the Indian Government tried to slow the birthrate in India by offering a days wages, or a portable radio to every man who snip snipped his whip whip. How much money/radios would that be?

I think the drawback was they did not come with batteries...:apint:

[imdying]

I already said that in post 37.:nya:You are so right! My apologies! I must start actually reading these threads before just posting my redneck rhetoric!

[James Deuce]

But, but, but, I LIKE your redneck rhetoric!

[imdying]

I wish you wouldn't encourage him Jim, you know he only does it for the attention.

[peasea]

Yes, because tetra-ethyl lead is, as we all know, the mainstay of all dietary supplements. :weird:

Like benzene and toluene should be in everyone's lunch?

[Dave Lobster]

Like benzene and toluene should be in everyone's lunch?

And folic acid.. ;)

[Pixie]

1.4 billion people on our planet live in extreme poverty. So what’s new?

Lets face it - we're fortunate to not be part of the 1.4 billion, even the poorest of us in this country are wealthy compared to the vast majority.

Not that we should feel guilty or anything but; what if you could actually help without being harassed for money, with out to much of an effort you can make a huge difference to their lives.
So come along and learn how – so next time you’re out indulging in our environment destroying, fossil fuel burning, carbon admitting polluting addiction, you can ride feeling better about yourself as a person

Seriously though; the Global Poverty Project is a global movement trying to encourage people like us to take effective concerted action on poverty.

The Global Poverty Project is not after your money. The presentation explains how your everyday actions - in what you learn, say, buy, give and do - can be connected to the ending of extreme poverty. Small actions in your life can create big opportunities for the world's poorest.
Come and see a simple presentation ‘1.4 billion reasons’, the 90 minute presentation clearly articulates the facts of extreme poverty and demonstrates that by making simple changes everyone can be a part of the solution.

So come along and become a part of the movement to end extreme poverty.
Check the link for dates and venues;
http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/events/

For those in Hamilton; 31 Aug 2009 07:00pm Waikato University, Price Waterhouse Coopers Lecture Theatre, in the MSB (Waikato Management School Building)

Tell them to get a bloody job

[SARGE]

"Let's put some cash together to fix this guy's growth and he'll be saved" etc etc. They put it to the begger and he refused (canny dude, this one) as it would remove his livelihood.



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[hdus001]

India even has nuclear weapons, doesn't it?

Having a strong military deterrant is important. If they had it 300 yrs ago, the British wouldnt have been able to loot the place and impoverish it.

[Mikkel]

You are so right! My apologies! I must start actually reading these threads before just posting my redneck rhetoric!


But, but, but, I LIKE your redneck rhetoric!

No matter how hard you guys try... sorry, IT doesn't cut it as far as Redneckism is concerned :no:


Like benzene and toluene should be in everyone's lunch?

Toluene, where?

[James Deuce]

It's in the cheese in a can.

[peasea]

No matter how hard you guys try... sorry, IT doesn't cut it as far as Redneckism is concerned :no:



Toluene, where?

In our petrol, old bean.

Lifted it directly from;

http://www.med.govt.nz/templates/MultipageDocumentPage____10256.aspx

"Changes Proposed to the Regulations
Current Regulations Proposed changes
Benzene: 5% maximum by mass (equivalent to around 4.2% maximum by volume) Immediate change to specifying benzene content as % by volume; set at 4% maximum
Stage 1 reduction to 3% maximum by volume
Stage 2 reduction to 1% maximum by volume

The immediate change will align with international practice by specifying benzene limits as a percentage volume.

Benzene is a useful source of octane. Reducing allowable benzene levels will mean other high-octane constituents or additives will need to be used. However, reducing the benzene content of petrol is seen as a priority over reduction of other aromatic compounds such as toluene and xylene, which have lesser health effects but are also good sources of octane.

A staged reduction to 1% is proposed to align with Australia. This timetable recognises that refineries in the Asia-Pacific region are not all able to meet the 3% and 1% benzene limits. The Marsden Point Refinery will require capital investment with a 3-5 year lead time to meet the 1% limit. Estimates based on overseas figures indicate that it could cost about $NZ25-35 million."

Unleaded gasoline was never meant to be burnt without a catalytic convertor installed on the vehicle to 'scrub' the gasses of carcinogens. However, there is no legislation in NZ to prevent the removal (and failure to replace) cat cons. Cat cons are expensive and (more often than not) rob some power. So, boy racers remove them for a slight power gain, other motorists simply go for the cheap option of a resonator or simple muffler when the cat con becomes blocked (which they do, over time) and out come the carcinogens.

Added to that little lot there are hundreds (if not thousands) of used cat cons, complete with a plethora of heavy metals, being poured into our landfills every month. It's been like that since the introduction of ULP in NZ and was/is compounded by the mass importation of used cars with blocked or close to blocked cat cons.

I could go on but I think you get the picture.

Cheers.

[smoky]

After the negative responce on here - I was pleasantly to see a few KB faces on Monday night, thanks for taking the time to come along
It was interesting