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scracha
27th August 2009, 22:42
As I was 4th in the champ, the decision was made to keep battling away in pre89 junior. As I'd barely ridden the ZX-6r and haven't ridden the CBR400 since PMCC round 2, a practice day was in order. Since I'd finished 0 out of 5 F2 starts, then things could only get better. Since I could only do 2 classes, the brave man in me decided to let Drew's wee bro out on the Kwakker in F1.

Practice day. Good weather, farked by Suzuki crapping itself over 90% of the track. Not getting to grips with the ZX-6r. The CBR400 now feels completely gutless. Still not "feeling" the long track or the bikes. I'm a wee bit despondent.

F2 Qualifying. 2.15 puts me near the back of the grid. Luckily there's very few entries this round so I'm 20th. Oh joy of joy...Clive's wobbling around with a 2.18. Drew asks me stupid questions about "how the bike feels" so I give him equally stupid answers as compared to the post classic bikes, it feels fast and scary.

Posties Qualifying. I come in a ballhair under 2.19 & 15th pos.. I'm feeling slow. Gawd the ZX-6r feels like a touring bike compared to the 400. My hip is making clicking noises from the origami like torture my body has been in. George Gainsford (smelly 2 smoke Kawasaki thing) and Eamon Timms (ZXR450) are my targets today. George is on my radar but no way in hell I'll catch Timmsy. I figure with the way he's riding there's a realistic chance he'll land on his arse over the next couple of rounds.

F2 Race 1. Holy fark....have I launched in 3rd gear or something. I slip the clutch for 50% of the straight. Clive's bike is in front of me but I'm not catching him. I ease off with 2 laps to go as there's a big gap behind me. From following Clive I figure I need to turn the bike harder/faster/more on the slow corners and get on the gas a LOT earlier. Rear tyre feels "slippy". Transition from braking to on the gas feels bloody awful. I arrive back with a laptime just under 2.11. Clive's gained 10s a lap....I think the old fox has been playing with me in practise. Still, I've finished a race.

Posties Race 1. Straight out after F2. Notice how much further back and lower I feel on the 400 compared to the ZX-6. Awsome scrap with Frenchy on Tweety pie. It feels like old times vs Nicky and does my confidence a lot of good. We cock each other up for the whole race and I have to avoid running into the back of him twice on the last lap. Couple of other bikes take advantage of us slowing each other down and pass us last lap. I finish a miserable 16th with a high 2.15, just behind Frenchy...gah. I come back smiling though.

I avoid watching the F1 race as I'll jinx Luke. I near $hit myself when a white muddy bike heads towards our garage but realise it's just Drew pretending he's back on a Ducati.

F2 Race 2. I triple check I'm in first. Then I rock the bike again and check once more. Launch time, a lot more rev's this time......fark...still bloody awful. There's NOTHING at the bottom end. Don't have balls to slip clutch on my new far more powerful bike. Note to self...do some practise launches. I make an aggressive move around the outside of the first corner bus queue but have to squeeze between a wobbly SV650 on my outside.....yikes. Pass another 3 bikes around the outside into T3. I'm sure I've passed Clive. I'm right up Aria's chuff. Not a chance I'll pass her but I'll try and stay with her as she rides pretty smooth. I think on lap 2 or 3 I have an "oh $hit" moment when I hit a false neutral through T3/T4. Nick Prestidge's got my bike back into gear by ramming into the back of me with his 749 though :clap: I dunno if it was going back to the road rubber (turns out the used slick we'd used in R1 was of 2005 vintage) or Drew's advice of "getting on the gas before turning" but the bike feels transformed. On lap 3 I feel brave enough to attempt stuffing a certain Kevin Waugh up the inside of turn 1. I think this wakes him up though as he starts riding hard and buggers off into the distance. I lose track of Aria towards the last couple of laps and don't fight back on the final corner battle. I'm happy enough to finish 19th with a 2.07.

Posties Race 2. Basically a decent start but the CBR feels lacking. Takes me a lap to get back to whacking on the throttle as there isn't much danger of her stepping out. Riding the 'cane and the ZX-6 has my braking all screwed up. More often than not into T1 and the hairpin on the long track, the bike's arse end is waving in the air and the front tyre is chirping and howling in protest.

As per the ZX-6r, I still haven't got my head back to throwing the bike on the ground. It's not all in my head...after it's big crash the CBR400 is lacking in what little mid-range grunt it used to have. George's 250 was leaving me for dust. The 600 'cane pissed over it on the power and I was hoping the better braking/handling 400 would be good on the long track. I basically don't put a foot wrong in the final race and was gob-smacked to have only pulled a 2.14. Put it this way, I was nearly 2.5s faster on the cane. Even back to last summer's form, there's no way I could pull 2.5 seconds back on the 400.

Conclusion
I'm still at the "waaahfuckmethisisscaryfast" level on the ZX6 although a couple of times on race day I felt the sheer rush that everyone warned me about. As enjoyable as it was, the 'hang off and haul it around' style of riding the hurricane seems to have put me a few steps back for riding the CBR and ZX6 sportsbikes. So in the long term, it makes more sense to ditch the 600 'cane, even though it's faster on the short track. Got some hard decisions to make about whether to continue on the 400, whether to concentrate on the 600 (extra F1 race time wouldn't go amiss), whether to make the 400 faster or whether to ask ozzie to lop a cylinder off the ZX-6. Being totally honest, the jury is still out on whether I'm cut out for F2 although like owning the Ducati, you'd go mad wondering "what if" if you don't try it.

Big uppys to:-

Drew & Rachael for chauffeuring me around and accommodation.
Paul and Dianne for gettin the wee CBR running again.
Luke (& i guess Mikey) for gettin the bikes to the track and doing the tyre thing.
Martin Peck for letting me stash loads of bike $hit at his place.
Nick for his continued support...always appreciated.
Kyle for gettin the 'cane roadbike down to the track.


Big downys to:-

Air New Zealand - for charging me a fortune to change my flight to one 10 hours earlier...even though I use the cunts every month.
The Indian Restaurant in Palmy North...easily the worst curry I've had this millennium.

Clivoris
27th August 2009, 23:06
Another report I've been waiting for Steevie. You really are doing it hard swapping between the 3 bikes you have man. I doubt I could get my head around it. It will be hard to give the Supersport rush up now man, but I can see why posties has to be a priority for ya. Wouldn't you do better to keep punting the Hurricane for the last 2 rounds if you are quicker on it? Top skills mate and we're both gonna have to lift our game if we are going to catch up to those midpack geezers in Supersport. I guarantee we can do it though. Thanks for showing me the way round on the last race.:clap:

NinjaBoy
27th August 2009, 23:07
Congrats on keeping it rubber side down and it sounds like you managed some respectable times on the ZX.

I reckon you should keep at F2. You'll get addicted to the sheer rush of 'seeing God and braking' moments soon enough. And the ZX is too new to convert to a 450 just yet.

quickbuck
27th August 2009, 23:34
Good stuff scracha.

You obviously went to the wrong Indian... There is a better one a hundred meters down the road...

See you at Round 5.

PS, don't 450 the Kwaka... Engines should get bigger with mods, not smaller... ;)

sinfull
28th August 2009, 00:12
Good read mate, sounds like some horrible decisions to be made there (I say keep the lot)
Hard work swapping styles within minutes man kudos to ya for doing it !!!

MOTOXXX
28th August 2009, 07:20
good work dude
....btw my bike aint a 450....yet...its still a standard 400 with flatsides :cool:

Toast
28th August 2009, 07:43
Don't castrate the poor thing! You'll get used to it. 2.07 is a damn fine effort considering the amount of seat and setup time you've had!

Deano
28th August 2009, 09:38
That was a great read Stevie. Stick at it mate, you'll gel with the 6 soon enough.

scracha
28th August 2009, 12:45
good work dude
....btw my bike aint a 450....yet...its still a standard 400 with flatsides :cool:
Wah.....please don't 450 it then as you were just playing with me on the straights in practise .


Ta for all the encouragement chaps. Gawd damn I love posties though and just can't quite face giving it up. Would it be a stupid idea concentrating on posties for winter and F2 in summer or will it still be a "mind fuck"?

MOTOXXX
28th August 2009, 13:10
Yep posties is awesome fun, its great to be able to do two classes each raoudn PC and f3. makes the day more worth wile for $10 extra

Neil keeps trying to talk me into a 450 kit...wont happen this season but if i can scrape some cash together maybe next year.

Benk
28th August 2009, 13:55
Gawd damn I love posties though and just can't quite face giving it up. Would it be a stupid idea concentrating on posties for winter and F2 in summer or will it still be a "mind fuck"?

Fuck that. 400 battles are ON this summer :Pokey:

zxr400#150
28th August 2009, 13:57
Yep posties is awesome fun, its great to be able to do two classes each raoudn PC and f3. makes the day more worth wile for $10 extra

Neil keeps trying to talk me into a 450 kit...wont happen this season but if i can scrape some cash together maybe next year.

Ooooh Man!!!! looks like ima have to get some flat slides for next year if i stay in posties Jnr!

scracha
28th August 2009, 18:03
Fuck that. 400 battles are ON this summer :Pokey:

I'll fit my bike with crash bars if you're back racing :banana:

Frenchy
28th August 2009, 19:18
nice work mate you looked busy all day jumping from bike to bike!!

Benk
28th August 2009, 19:35
I'll fit my bike with crash bars if you're back racing :banana:

Good forward planning. Make sure that frame is welded up good eh :devil2:

roadracingoldfart
28th August 2009, 22:02
Mate , dont be so tuff on yaself . You havnt done more than 2 rounds in a row on the same bikes yet this year so what do you expect but be mind fucked.
Slow the changing bikes down and just get on and ride and have fun.

After 3 hours on the Kwaka at the endurance race you will be able to ride it blind .

Paul.

Clivoris
28th August 2009, 22:06
Mate , dont be so tuff on yaself . You havnt done more than 2 rounds in a row on the same bikes yet this year so what do you expect but be mind fucked.
Slow the changing bikes down and just get on and ride and have fun.

After 3 hours on the Kwaka at the endurance race you will be able to ride it blind .

Paul.

Shit mate. He's as fast as I am, he's probably stoked. If you guys are gonna do the 3 hour I might have to pull the Jandle Wintle out of retirement and give use the learn.:girlfight:

driftn
29th August 2009, 07:11
As Paul said stick to one bike and you will get used to it really quickly. You were doing very well out there. Looking smooth and it came back in one piece which is even better.
Big ups to you mate keep at it you will get quick on it and for shit sakes DON'T 450 it.

driftn
29th August 2009, 07:12
Shit mate. He's as fast as I am, he's probably stoked. If you guys are gonna do the 3 hour I might have to pull the Jandle Wintle out of retirement and give use the learn.:girlfight:


If you need a partner for the 3 hour Clive im keen.:Pokey:

roadracingoldfart
29th August 2009, 08:04
As Paul said stick to one bike and you will get used to it really quickly. You were doing very well out there. Looking smooth and it came back in one piece which is even better.
Big ups to you mate keep at it you will get quick on it and for shit sakes DON'T 450 it.



NOOOOOOO
I didnt mean just one bike , what i meant was dont change the ones you have now .
He was on both 600s and they were streets apart in attitude but he knows thw 400 well and now all he has to do is learn the Kwaka .
To his credit hes dropped the CBR600 and opted for the 400 in posties and the Kwaka in F2 .
Now the learning can focus and he can easily ride 2 bikes in diff classes but when you chop around between bikes its very hard to get a memory for them.
The only person i know that could ride diff bikes in diff classes at the same meeting was Rob Holden , and he rode 5 diff bikes at one meeting lol .

Paul.

driftn
29th August 2009, 08:15
Ahh I see said the blind man to his deaf dog... which wasn't really listening.

How did you get to be so wise?

scracha
29th August 2009, 08:47
If you need a partner for the 3 hour Clive im keen.:Pokey:

Fuckin turncoat :Oi:


If bikes were like women, then this year I'd be a slut.

quickbuck
29th August 2009, 21:43
The only person i know that could ride diff bikes in diff classes at the same meeting was Rob Holden , and he rode 5 diff bikes at one meeting lol .

Paul.

Would that be about 1992/3??

One was even a Harley 883! The only guy to pick one up by himself that day... and i think he still won!

Might have been a different time though.

roadracingoldfart
29th August 2009, 21:56
Would that be about 1992/3??

One was even a Harley 883! The only guy to pick one up by himself that day... and i think he still won!

Might have been a different time though.


Was about then i spose..... Rg250 , GSX550 , GSX750, Katana1000,
GSX1100F1.

Rob was built with a tuff little stature and im sure he could pick any bike up that hadnt just broken his body too badly lol.

driftn
30th August 2009, 08:17
Fuckin turncoat :Oi:


Is that an invitation young fella?

quickbuck
30th August 2009, 09:39
Was about then i spose..... Rg250 , GSX550 , GSX750, Katana1000,
GSX1100F1.

Rob was built with a tuff little stature and im sure he could pick any bike up that hadnt just broken his body too badly lol.

Na, that looks like about 7 years earlier......
The day's I was thinking of it would be more like Ducati (851/888??) etc...

Yes, I do remember being on the Flag Point at Dunlop, and Robert went down while in the lead.... We stuck out the yellow flag and I said something like, "That is going to be difficult for us to pick up..."
Next thing I know Robert has it back upright and was heading toward the start/finish!!

Actually I think it was a BEARS meeting???
I think he just went in EVERY class because he could....

Mumbles
30th August 2009, 16:34
Nice one Steevie, sorry I couldnt stay for long but that family thing gets me every time.
Here are some pics I got sitting in the grandstands with Paige. :wari:
Nick

Mumbles
30th August 2009, 16:50
Good stuff scracha.

You obviously went to the wrong Indian... There is a better one a hundred meters down the road...
;)

Last time we had "Mirrch Masala" 164 Albert St and I got introduced to Lamb Saag :love: lucky for me they passed his UK taste standards other than it was a little processed for him. But he's never happy .... :girlfight: ahhy Steevie

Mumbles
30th August 2009, 16:57
If bikes were like women, then this year I'd be a slut.
That would make Paul a Pimp? :shit:
.... and you his best customer? :laugh:

scracha
30th August 2009, 18:54
Last time we had "Mirrch Masala" 164 Albert St and I got introduced to Lamb Saag :love: lucky for me they passed his UK taste standards other than it was a little processed for him. But he's never happy .... :girlfight: ahhy Steevie

There's nowt much better than a good curry and pint of lager.
There's nowt much worse than a shit curry and handle off pissy tasting beer.

Thanks for the photo's Nick. Always good to have a shot with Clive miles behind me* :innocent:

Clivoris
30th August 2009, 18:59
Thanks for the photo's Nick. Always good to have a shot with Clive miles behind me* :innocent:

:shit:Wouldn't believe it if it weren't for the pics.

scracha
30th August 2009, 19:10
:shit:Wouldn't believe it if it weren't for the pics.

I sure I heard you giggling like a girl in your helmet when you passed me in race 1.

mossy1200
30th August 2009, 19:24
That postie 600 is fast.Just needs fat rear rim and ride height adjustment.It seemed to have as much pickup out of corners as the big bikes and getting close up the top of the rev range.more rear rubber would help get the power down earlier and also lift those housings away from the ground.
I tried qualify on FZR750 then run FZR1000 during tri series Manfield round last year and it left me slow for first 3laps while I adjusted back to the bigger bike.

Clivoris
30th August 2009, 19:35
I sure I heard you giggling like a girl in your helmet when you passed me in race 1.

Maybe just a little bit.

scracha
30th August 2009, 21:35
That postie 600 is fast.Just needs fat rear rim and ride height adjustment.It seemed to have as much pickup out of corners as the big bikes and getting close up the top of the rev range.more rear rubber .
Hmm.. It's fast ridden at 85%. When you push it that wee bit harder it REALLY bites back. Everything feels bouncy and umm..flexible when you're going hard on it. Quite frankly, on the faster corners it scares the hell out of me. A couple of other peeps have PM'd me to say they're gonna run 'canes this year. Dunno about increasing the height as it's quite top heavy already.

roadracingoldfart
30th August 2009, 21:49
Hmm.. It's fast ridden at 85%. When you push it that wee bit harder it REALLY bites back. Everything feels bouncy and umm..flexible when you're going hard on it. Quite frankly, on the faster corners it scares the hell out of me. A couple of other peeps have PM'd me to say they're gonna run 'canes this year. Dunno about increasing the height as it's quite top heavy already.


let me ride it at the open day for next round and ill see what it really can do
Im taking mine for a cobweb removal session so i may as well use some of your tyres too lol.

mossy1200
30th August 2009, 21:51
Hmm.. It's fast ridden at 85%. When you push it that wee bit harder it REALLY bites back. Everything feels bouncy and umm..flexible when you're going hard on it. Quite frankly, on the faster corners it scares the hell out of me. A couple of other peeps have PM'd me to say they're gonna run 'canes this year. Dunno about increasing the height as it's quite top heavy already.
Lift the rear and drop the front adding good linear front springs and the bike should change.Total height will be similar but with better springs up front the dive will be less and the weight transfered forward.Wouldnt mind having a good look at it.
This is the one I built earlier this year.

Foxzee
31st August 2009, 18:47
A great helmet save day Stevie....lol:wari:

Well done...you going so well........:msn-wink:

scracha
31st August 2009, 20:43
let me ride it at the open day for next round and ill see what it really can do
Im taking mine for a cobweb removal session so i may as well use some of your tyres too lol.

Why not take it for a race....?

Fuck...would that mean I'm your sponsor ?