Buell voted best handling...again.

[Big Dave]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides--tests/2009/May/may2109-top-5-handlers-according-to-you/

[tri boy]

Carver will be impressed:whistle:

[carver]

sweet, i own #4!

[hospitalfood]

no huge surprise, i find the xb12r good but think the xb12s would kill it with the wider and higher bars.

[Sensei]

WHAT it won it before ? Was it voted by a guy that road a RoadKing !

[hospitalfood]

WHAT it won it before ? Was it voted by a guy that road a RoadKing !

dork.......................

[Babelfish]

Nice! There's something about the Buell that still has me twisted around its little swingarm. They're a story on two wheels and ooze character. I've had the pleasure of riding a couple now and my main hurdle is getting used to the rather laid back engine, but they turn so fast yer arse takes 2.43 seconds to catch up after each corner. Lovely. :drool:

[Big Dave]

WHAT it won it before ?

A Buell Firebolt.

[AllanB]

Bloody Harleys ........

Interesting note - I've a copy of the latest Fast bikes magazine as they do a naked bike comparo (well fairly exotic naked bikes...) and they did not rate the 1125CR well...... only got a 5/10.

I'd have to say I prefer the 'Harley' ones ...... yum

[Big Dave]

I've a copy of the latest Fast bikes magazine as they do a naked bike comparo (well fairly exotic naked bikes...) and they did not rate the 1125CR well...... only got a 5/10.


Everybody fucks up occasionally.

[Boob Johnson]

So it corners good? Guess it had to do SOMETHING well :whistle:

[Drew]

I thought the S and the R cornered well, but lets put it in perspective. It comes at a corner so fuckin slow, you have an eternity to set it up, position it on the road, and get it round.

[AllanB]

Everybody fucks up occasionally.

:lol::lol::lol: Excellent - made me laugh!!!!!

I find the English sports magazines are pretty much anti anything remotely related to HD. Must have something to do with all those American soldiers shagging their women years ago .......

[Boob Johnson]

:lol::lol::lol: Excellent - made me laugh!!!!!

I find the English sports magazines are pretty much anti anything remotely related to HD. Must have something to do with all those American soldiers shagging their women years ago .......
"Over paid, over sexed & over HERE!!!" :buggerd:


:laugh:

[oldguy]

wish I were a good rider to explore its handling, but Im happy with mine, and my ability to ride it.

[oldguy]

I thought the S and the R cornered well, but lets put it in perspective. It comes at a corner so fuckin slow, you have an eternity to set it up, position it on the road, and get it round.
that's what make's it a good road bike, not much cop on the track though

[Big Dave]

that's what make's it a good road bike, not much cop on the track though


Apart from that - they don't come at corners slow. It's a 103hp engine with good torque capable of 220+kph and it spools up nicely.

If it's not far between the corners even better because of the speed they can carry through them.

Where they are slow compared to a litre sportsbike is exiting the corners.

[boman]

The Flea, down our way, seems to get his XB-12r spooled up well. Dosn't seem to give sod all up to litre bikes, even out of the corners.

[chef]

im looking for the buell dual headlights anyone know a site i can get them from? or anywhere. cheers

[Big Dave]

The Flea, down our way, seems to get his XB-12r spooled up well. Dosn't seem to give sod all up to litre bikes, even out of the corners.

But just say given equally skilled riders, at the end of the day it's 103hp V 160/180hp

[boman]

www.nzstreetfighters.com Have some twin units just like the buell ones. Under lighting in the menu.

[chef]

www.nzstreetfighters.com Have some twin units just like the buell ones. Under lighting in the menu.

yeah so over price though $300 for to tin cans no framing or anything there on trade me aswell. want the buell light guard too.

[coffeejunkie]

Buell FTW!!!

Balzy's 1125R is a nice ride indeed:niceone:

[hospitalfood]

The Flea, down our way, seems to get his XB-12r spooled up well. Dosn't seem to give sod all up to litre bikes, even out of the corners.

yep, Flea don't fuck around.
i have had good days on my buell riding with late model jap sports bikes, think it is fair to say that i have represented myself reasonably, but i cannot keep up with Flea and i don't think the people in this thread saying buells are slow would be able to keep up with him.

[Drew]

I've ridden an the XB r and s, only the thou mind, and they ARE slow.

You are all right, who say they punch out of a turn well. They do not however, accelerate quickly past the initial 20 or 30 km/h burst. A fast bike will accelerate quickly as long as you dare keep hooking cogs.

Having not achieved the same speed as a faster bike, you get more time to judge what's going on ahead. Using that time wisely you get to carry more corner speed a lot of times, and from there a higher average speed, and can then beat the guy who just twists the throttle on his litre bike.

[oldguy]

Apart from that - they don't come at corners slow. It's a 103hp engine with good torque capable of 220+kph and it spools up nicely.

If it's not far between the corners even better because of the speed they can carry through them.

Where they are slow compared to a litre sportsbike is exiting the corners.

I agree BD, im not the greatest rider, but I can flow through the corners as good as all but real fast guys and gals who are (good riders) not crazy or stupid.
Like you say its only when the roads open out, do they start to open up a gap which I never make up.

[BALZYBUELL]

I've ridden an the XB r and s, only the thou mind, and they ARE slow.

You are all right, who say they punch out of a turn well. They do not however, accelerate quickly past the initial 20 or 30 km/h burst. A fast bike will accelerate quickly as long as you dare keep hooking cogs.

Having not achieved the same speed as a faster bike, you get more time to judge what's going on ahead. Using that time wisely you get to carry more corner speed a lot of times, and from there a higher average speed, and can then beat the guy who just twists the throttle on his litre bike.

maybe you should try the 1125r,they are alot quicker and higher reving

[Drew]

maybe you should try the 1125r and then comment

I'm sure it's great, but not what the thread is about.

I'm amused by those who have taken what I said as a dig. My initial post was a good natured joke, but not untrue. My second was an attempt to clarify the thinking behind it.

At no point have a said the Buel is a bad bike, or that there was something wrong with them.

[hospitalfood]

I've ridden an the XB r and s, only the thou mind, and they ARE slow.

You are all right, who say they punch out of a turn well. They do not however, accelerate quickly past the initial 20 or 30 km/h burst. A fast bike will accelerate quickly as long as you dare keep hooking cogs.

Having not achieved the same speed as a faster bike, you get more time to judge what's going on ahead. Using that time wisely you get to carry more corner speed a lot of times, and from there a higher average speed, and can then beat the guy who just twists the throttle on his litre bike.

they may not have high hp but they are better than an RF900 and way cooler than a gixxer.

don't dis buells in this thread, this thread is about there good points.

we owners know they are not the fastest, but to say they are slow is wrong

[BALZYBUELL]

I'm sure it's great, but not what the thread is about.

I'm amused by those who have taken what I said as a dig. My initial post was a good natured joke, but not untrue. My second was an attempt to clarify the thinking behind it.

At no point have a said the Buel is a bad bike, or that there was something wrong with them.

hey drew i edited my post after cj pointed out you were TRYING to be funny lol:dodge:

[BALZYBUELL]

they may not have high hp but they are better than an RF900 and way cooler than a gixxer.

don't dis buells in this thread, this thread is about there good points.

we owners no they are not the fastest, but to say they are slow is wrong

YOU ARE THE MAN:headbang:

[boomer]

they may not have high hp but they are better than an RF900 and way cooler than a gixxer.

don't dis buells in this thread, this thread is about there good points.

we owners no they are not the fastest, but to say they are slow is wrong

He's saying they're slow in comparison, which they are; people getting precious about there tractors !

[Big Dave]

He's saying they're slow in comparison, which they are; people getting precious about there tractors !

That's just wrong.




It's their tractors.

[hospitalfood]

He's saying they're slow in comparison, which they are; people getting precious about there tractors !

you sure you want this boomer ?

i was being nice ( for me ) to Drew because he obviously races

[BALZYBUELL]

He's saying they're slow in comparison, which they are; people getting precious about there tractors !

got more pull than a thousand school boys

[boomer]

That's just wrong.




It's their tractors.


You're right !

[hospitalfood]

buells are great bikes, most fun you can have with your pants on.
love the look, sound and performance of my one.
loud low reving fat twin, bloody good!
i have never been shamed on the road because of my bikes ability

[boomer]

you sure you want this boomer ?

i was being nice ( for me ) to Drew because he obviously races

i dont give a shit, Drews just as slow as all the other Mairs... But that has little gravity over my thoughts on the tractor...

and im at teh age i'll take what i can get thanks :)


got more pull than a thousand school boys


u been visiting the wrong schools.. try a catholic school.. u get 180bhp then :lol:

[hospitalfood]

You're right !

clever buggers

[BALZYBUELL]

i dont give a shit, Drews just as slow as all the other Mairs... But that has little gravity over my thoughts on the tractor...

and im at teh age i'll take what i can get thanks :)




u been visiting the wrong schools.. try a catholic school.. u get 180bhp then :lol:

wat you talking about you ride a nun:girlfight:

[chanceyy]

got more pull than a thousand school boys

:nono: balzy balzy balzy .. thats not a image I wanna have ( :Oops: you did not mean that pull) .. much rather check out your wheels :yes:

but I must say outta all the buells I have seen I prefer yours .. sorry mo :whistle:

[BALZYBUELL]

:nono: balzy balzy balzy .. thats not a image I wanna have ( :Oops: you did not mean that pull) .. much rather check out your wheels :yes:

but I must say outta all the buells I have seen I prefer yours .. sorry mo :whistle:

why thank you sandra,she sure is a beauty alright:banana:

[boomer]

wat you talking about you ride a nun:girlfight:


Here's my Tractor Killa... she's called the 'nun'

[BALZYBUELL]

Here's my Tractor Killa... shes called the 'nun'

very nice ride indeed

[chanceyy]

why thank you sandra,she sure is a beauty alright:banana:

:yes: your one is not quite as sexy as ya bytch, :laugh:


but by gosh she does look rather stunning :drool: and for a tractor she sounds actually rather good :dodge:

[BALZYBUELL]

:yes: your one is not quite as sexy as ya bytch, :laugh:


but by gosh she does look rather stunning :drool: and for a tractor she sounds actually rather good :dodge:

thats wat she thinks to.i love her almost as much as my bike:lol:

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=hospitalfood; dork......................

LOL must be a Buell thing . :girlfight:

[boomer]

dork......................

LOL must be a Buell thing . :girlfight:

no.. i don't own a tractor and i think you;re a dork :girlfight:

[BALZYBUELL]

no.. i don't own a tractor and i think you;re a dork :girlfight:

haha points and laughs,sensei is a whales penis:lol:

[Sensei]

no.. i don't own a tractor and i think you;re a dork :girlfight:

Bring that KTM down here Boomer for a ride & then we can go have a :apint:

[2much]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides--tests/2009/May/may2109-top-5-handlers-according-to-you/

can't be fucked reading all of it... but i hope someone else has already said...

"What a croak of shit"

[AllanB]

can't be fucked reading all of it... but i hope someone else has already said...

"What a croak of shit"

Why?

If you read it, it is to quote: "Here's a top 5 countdown of the bikes rated highest for handling by user reviewers in the MCN bike reviews section."
Does not mean it's a crock of shit.

Maybe every Buell rider voted distorting the votes, possibly Suzuki riders were too busy repairing their crashed bikes, maybe Honda riders were busy choosing new fabric for their drapes, Harley riders were probably online ordering bling and Italian bike riders were at work saving up for their next service ...........

Whatever the reason that's the results and judging by the owners feedback in this post relating to the handling of the bikes (what the award is about, not power) it may well be deserved.

I feel the need for a test ride ......:clap:

Of interest to the power freaks who have posted - power and handling are separate issues, indeed I suspect if you had a 160hp engine in the X series Buell the handling would probably degrade. As a owner of a 110hp bike I can attest to the fun that can be had at speeds under warp factor 10.

[boomer]

Bring that KTM down here Boomer for a ride & then we can go have a :apint:

its on my to do list.. i need to come and see you and pussy, then drink lots of :Beer: afterwards :D

[2wheeldrifter]

Readers reviews.....

So does that mean Buell riders spend more time on the internet reading and reviewing their own bike than actually out riding it.... :rolleyes:

[hospitalfood]

Readers reviews.....

So does that mean Buell riders spend more time on the internet reading and reviewing their own bike than actually out riding it.... :rolleyes:

we don't spend our time shimming valves, replacing cam belts, fixing electrical faults and petrol leaks. so we have more time online.

[Drew]

they may not have high hp but they are better than an RF900 and way cooler than a gixxer.

don't dis buells in this thread, this thread is about there good points.

we owners know they are not the fastest, but to say they are slow is wrong


I didn't once diss them, nor say my RF was better.

They are really good fun, and if a road is tight enough to use second gear through the turns, you can even link 'em up on the back wheel.

You're opinion of what is a better bike, or cooler, is not subjective at all though.

My Gixxer is pretty cool, if you like 200hp superbikes. With more Yoshi bits than the catalogue, and the best suspension that was available when it was built.

You're Buell is cool, for the sheer looks it gets if ya give it a fist full. The wicked stoppies it'll do, and how nimble it is.

Right up to the point in fact, that you stop and turn it off, and that fan turns on to cool the fuel in the frame. Or you pull into a gas station when it's hot to fill it up, and the thing pisses it all straight back onto your left foot cos it expands with the heat anyway. That aint cool at all.

[hospitalfood]

I didn't once diss them, nor say my RF was better.

They are really good fun, and if a road is tight enough to use second gear through the turns, you can even link 'em up on the back wheel.

You're opinion of what is a better bike, or cooler, is not subjective at all though.

My Gixxer is pretty cool, if you like 200hp superbikes. With more Yoshi bits than the catalogue, and the best suspension that was available when it was built.

You're Buell is cool, for the sheer looks it gets if ya give it a fist full. The wicked stoppies it'll do, and how nimble it is.

Right up to the point in fact, that you stop and turn it off, and that fan turns on to cool the fuel in the frame. Or you pull into a gas station when it's hot to fill it up, and the thing pisses it all straight back onto your left foot cos it expands with the heat anyway. That aint cool at all.

this is fun

[Drew]

we don't spend our time shimming valves, replacing cam belts, fixing electrical faults and petrol leaks. so we have more time online.

Bwahahahahaha, you cant shim the valves. You're fuckin diesel has PUSH RODS! My mothers Morris Minor has push rods. And what about drive belts?

A ducati leaking gas still gets further on a tank of it too.


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[hospitalfood]

Bwahahahahaha, you cant shim the valves. You're fuckin diesel has PUSH RODS! My mothers Morris Minor has push rods. And what about drive belts?

A ducati leaking gas still gets further on a tank of it too.


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

FYI both my bikes have pushrods. and my point is we don't have to set valve clearances because of the engine design, so no maintenance for valves, cams are gear driven so no maintenance there. service is very easy / cheap.

as far as a ducati getting further on a tank it probably will provided it does not break down, which is by no means certain

[Drew]

as far as a ducati getting further on a tank it probably will provided it does not break down, which is by no means certain

I have no experience with Ducati breaking down though, unless the fuel line coming un clipped on my old race bike, after I'd biffed it down the track counts.

[jrandom]

As a owner of a 110hp bike

*cough*

'At the crank' (tm).

[Big Dave]

You're fuckin diesel has PUSH RODS!

My diesel is a road bike with 8,000km service intervals and hydraulic, self adjusting valves mean that a dealer service is around $250.
There is no scheduled maintenance between services either.
No chain to adjust, nothing. Just check oil and ride it.

The engine is also excellent for road use. It develops most of its highly usable torque and power at licence keeping speeds and is one of the best 'fun' engines in any road bike - ever.

It doesn't do 300kph or have 180 horsepower. Big fuckin' whoop.

Range is around 250km and 50 on reserve. Any bike overflows if you ain't bright enough to stop putting fuel in it.

Next.

[carver]

Bloody Harleys ........

Interesting note - I've a copy of the latest Fast bikes magazine as they do a naked bike comparo (well fairly exotic naked bikes...) and they did not rate the 1125CR well...... only got a 5/10.

I'd have to say I prefer the 'Harley' ones ...... yum

i would agree with them....


buells are great bikes, most fun you can have with your pants on.
love the look, sound and performance of my one.
loud low reving fat twin, bloody good!
i have never been shamed on the road because of my bikes ability

Really?
I have never had a problem eating buells on the K1 GSXR
Now if i had the ducati streetfighter (i know its a bit unfair) i know that it goes, brakes, and handles better than the CR, but a very long way.
but its 10k more....:baby:

[carver]

*cough*

'At the crank' (tm).

Mine is 130!
atrw

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=carver;1129378009]i would agree with them....


I rest my case.

[jrandom]

My bike's engine uses 1950s technology. Every time I ride it above the open-road speed limit, it feels like it's going to shake itself apart.

Servicing it costs slightly more than servicing a lawnmower and slightly less than servicing a modern high-performance motorcycle.

This makes me feel a great inner peace.

It makes us happy to see you happy, Big Dave.

[carver]

[QUOTE=carver;1129378009]i would agree with them....


I rest my case.

B-King would be my personal choice if it was my money

[oldrider]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides--tests/2009/May/may2109-top-5-handlers-according-to-you/

Ran a few of my own tests, same outcome every time: The bike I am riding handles best for me! :devil2: :banana:

[Big Dave]

It makes us happy to see you happy, Big Dave.

Cheers - When do you get your licence back?

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=Big Dave;1129378014]

B-King would be my personal choice if it was my money

The one with the large, tall man friendly engine and frame - that tall men can't ride because of the ridiculous bodywork.

I'd have liked to have tested it - but was more comfortable on the Hyabusa.

[jrandom]

Cheers - When do you get your licence back?

I've had it back since April.

And I lost it for not going fast enough, you might recall.

Ladies and gentlemen, when you're out riding on a suspended licence and see a cop in traffic, filter past quickly.

Do not loiter law-abidingly in his sight, lest your guilty conscience be manifest (motorcyclists with clear consciences never loiter law-abidingly, apparently) and an arrest be forthcoming.

[Big Dave]

Ran a few of my own tests, same outcome every time: The bike I am riding handles best for me! :devil2: :banana:

I'd like the wheel sizes and the engine out of the Tigger crossed with the handling of the Uly.

IMO the 1050 Tiger is the best all-round engine slung in a road bike so far.

[Big Dave]

I've had it back since April.

And I lost it for not going fast enough, you might recall.
.

I don't sorry - were you lane splitting?

[jrandom]

I don't sorry - were you lane splitting?

I was out riding while suspended, and was arrested after being observed not lane splitting. Obviously a guilty conscience, you see, and worth investigating. The cops aren't as dumb as they're cabbage-lookin'.

I'm not sure if it makes it worse or better that 80 of the points I was suspended for were garnered in the Camry.

[Big Dave]

Murphy prevails. There are some times when I can't be arsed lane splitting too.

[chanceyy]

thats wat she thinks to.i love her almost as much as my bike:lol:

ya big soft marshmellow I for one know its the other way round .. you gave your self away babe :clap: on my birthday too if I remember correctly :devil2: :devil2: and really thats how it should be :yes:

[Drew]

its on my to do list.. i need to come and see you and pussy, then drink lots of :Beer: afterwards :D

I'm going to the Naki next weekend, get on that rattly pile and come down fuck ya!

[2wheeldrifter]

we don't spend our time shimming valves, replacing cam belts, fixing electrical faults and petrol leaks. so we have more time online.

You know doubt read that online somewhere... and take that as gospel, just like the Buell in this review was voted the best handling bike by Buell owners... :rolleyes:

[Big Dave]

You know doubt read that online somewhere... and take that as gospel, just like the Buell in this review was voted the best handling bike by Buell owners... :rolleyes:

And the BIKE magazine staff before them?

http://homepage.mac.com/david_cohen_design/.Pictures/misc4/bike.pdf

[2wheeldrifter]

And the BIKE magazine staff before them?

http://homepage.mac.com/david_cohen_design/.Pictures/misc4/bike.pdf

Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen as no other reviews or opinions are necessary as MCN and it's readers have spoken...

surely not?

[hospitalfood]

ok, all you guys who don't own buells and go out of your way to tell buell owners how crap they are must be right.

dorks......................

[jrandom]

ok, all you guys who don't own Buells because they rode one once after years of riding Japanese and European bikes and realised that Buells were, to be honest, kinda rubbish, are making good points

It's OK. Would you like a hug?

[hospitalfood]

It's OK. Would you like a hug?

only from you JR

[hospitalfood]

I think its time for me to come out and admit I'm very gay and fancy hospitalfood

second thoughts I might skip the hug sweetheart

[jrandom]

second thoughts I might skip the hug sweetheart

Fuckin Buell owners. They're all such teases.

[Big Dave]

Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen as no other reviews or opinions are necessary as MCN and it's readers have spoken...

surely not?


?? The reference was from BIKE magazine.

Just been for a burn. Lots of Buells out on the road today. Saw five of on test loopage.

[hospitalfood]

i have done some reading and now know that buells are far better than i thought. I'm deeply sorry for all the previous dribble i posted



thats ok mate........

[pritch]

And the BIKE magazine staff before them?


I still have that issue of BIKE here somewhere. Their selection process was interesting if highly subjective. When other lists compiled using different methods come to the same conclusion the results start to seem convincing.

I guess all the Buell haters won't need to rush out and buy a Triple Dip before the Lotto tickets sales close tonight. They won't want a Harley...

[Boob Johnson]

ok, all you guys who don't own buells and go out of your way to tell buell owners how crap they are must be right.

dorks......................
Some people only got as far as a demo, that was enough to convince them the right course of action :bleh:

[2wheeldrifter]

thats ok mate........

Oh dear looks like someone's stretch and grow is a little tight and has made him spit the dummy...

aren't we a devious one for manipulating other members posts.. :nono:

[jack_hamma]

thats ok mate........

I smell a dirty rat...... :Pokey:

[Drew]

I smell a dirty rat...... :Pokey:
You're wrong!

[jack_hamma]

You're wrong!

You think.....
Post 87 - Hospitalfood, Originally Posted by 2wheeldrifter
i have done some reading and now know that buells are far better than i thought. I'm deeply sorry for all the previous dribble i posted


thats ok mate........

For the life of my I can not find that post from 2wheeldrifter?????? so that's a dirty rat to me!

[Drew]

You think.....
Post 87 - Hospitalfood, Originally Posted by 2wheeldrifter
i have done some reading and now know that buells are far better than i thought. I'm deeply sorry for all the previous dribble i posted


thats ok mate........

For the life of my I can not find that post from 2wheeldrifter?????? so that's a dirty rat to me!

You're wrong, because you can't smell it.

[jack_hamma]

You're wrong, because you can't smell it.

True... But I can see it :shifty:

[Big Dave]

Will you guys get a room. :-)

[AllanB]

*cough*

'At the crank' (tm).
:Oi:
So what? that's the same place all the other makers quote their 'performance' figures from.
And looking at the magazine reviews that dyno bikes and give RWHP some of those makers 'factory' HP figures appear to be more 'designers target figures' not actual engine HP.:laugh::laugh:

Mines a lot faster than stock due to all the layers of polish on it :clap:

The thing is, if there was a global law stating that makers had to provide RWHP figures, a whole lot of posers would find a lot of extra room around their balls in their spanky one-piece suits. :crybaby: (where's the shrinking scrotum smilie?).

Meh - I'm a bit of a grandad anyway, and I'll pull to the left to let the bikes in a real hurry pass - it's better than some arse bandit kissing your rear tyre on a public road.

[jack_hamma]

Will you guys get a room. :-)

Your shout Dave? :Pokey:

[Big Dave]

Your shout Dave? :Pokey:

Iz good for Dinner for 1 at the McDonalds of your choice.

[hospitalfood]

this thread is the best fun i have had for a while, since i ate my weety's at least.

[Sensei]

Q -Whats the difference between a Buells Handling & a Battery ??????????
A - A Battery has a Postive side to it !!!!!!!!!!

[crazyhorse]

Each to their own, but not sure how many bikes were tested for handling, unless they have made huge improvements, but GO the Buell riders :)

[Big Dave]

terminal humour!

[dwnundabkr]

Q -Whats the difference between a Buells Handling & a Battery ??????????
A - A Battery has a Postive side to it !!!!!!!!!!

wow geezz and we all thought you were funny,
try harder next time
is this negative enough for you;)

us Bull riders like what we ride, so when you knock us its like Knocking family down
only we can knock them down but when outsiders to it we come out fighting:woohoo:

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=dwnundabkr - wow geezz and we all thought you were funny,
try harder next time
is this negative enough for you;)

Negative you'll have to do better than that :yawn: Looking at buying a XB9R for my wifey as they are great ladys bikes & I can use it for doing the grave roads out back , plus alot of fun if you don't push them above their limit .

[hospitalfood]

Q -Whats the difference between a Buell and me.

A - the buell is not a piece of shit



your to hard on yourself mate

[Big Dave]

plus alot of fun if you don't push them above their limit .

Which is beyond the speed limit anyway and my licence is my gig - which is partly why I like them so much.

Plus the way they corner.

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=hospitalfood -your to hard on yourself mate

I'm not the one trying to defend what I'm riding ,You must not read my post so good ? I'm looking at buying a Buell !! Just to much fun now take the piss out of you > Keep it coming Tho :woohoo:

[Drew]

:Oi:
So what? that's the same place all the other makers quote their 'performance' figures from.
And looking at the magazine reviews that dyno bikes and give RWHP some of those makers 'factory' HP figures appear to be more 'designers target figures' not actual engine HP.:laugh::laugh:

Mines a lot faster than stock due to all the layers of polish on it :clap:

The thing is, if there was a global law stating that makers had to provide RWHP figures, a whole lot of posers would find a lot of extra room around their balls in their spanky one-piece suits. :crybaby: (where's the shrinking scrotum smilie?).

Meh - I'm a bit of a grandad anyway, and I'll pull to the left to let the bikes in a real hurry pass - it's better than some arse bandit kissing your rear tyre on a public road.

The reason everyone quote crankshaft horse power, is because it is a mathmatical equation to get that figure, and in theory it's accurate. There is no way physically, or theoretically get an ACCURATE rear wheel horse power figure.

Ducati wanked on for ages about dyno testing every bike that came off the assembly line. The owners then had more reason to be fuckwits and spout bullshit about the power they had. Only thing is, a rolling road dyno is all shit. They are not a true measure of anything, except percentages of increase or decrease, compared to itself as a motor is being tuned.

[YellowDog]

I am very happy for Buell. It is good to see a bike that has been around for a while winning, rather than a new and untested piece of high-tech.

I don't think it actually maters who wins such awards. Having a bike in the top 10 would be nice however far more important is to ride a bike that you are able to manage and feel comfortable with.

I didn't feel at all comforatble on the winning bike, but my thanks go to AMPS for letting me sit on one.

[jack_hamma]

Ahhhhhhhhh

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/honda/first-look-2008-honda-cbr1000rr-67164.html
hospitalfood
:stupid:

[hospitalfood]

mate, it takes me to a vid about honda's.

yep a good bike, but its not for me.

i will stick with my prehistoric technology for the mean time, both of my bikes are pushrod engines, very simple low maintenance engines, generally regarded as highly relaiable engines.
no liquid cooling etc, just very simple bikes.

I dont want to own a jap bike, i know they are fast but i don't like them. when buying my buell it was a toss-up between the buell and a rsvr, and im glad i choose the buell, i dont care that the rsvr has more hp.

i dont understand why people come into this thread and say how slow/bad buells are, perhaps some kind of niggle because their own bikes are not as iconic, despite the fact that their bikes have more hp

[YellowDog]

100% with you on that. I know guys on 1980s BMWs who would not trade for anything else.

[onearmedbandit]

Wow the way some bike owners get so defensive and upset when someone dares criticise their choice of ride you'd almost think they'd designed, fabricated, and painstakingly handbuilt it themselves. Guess what? You didn't, you simply bought it. And (get ready for this one - it's the cruncher!) some people may not like your choice in bike. So your choices are as follows. A) Get really upset about it and attack anyone who disagrees with you and call them names or, B) don't even let it bother you and go for a ride on the bike you like. Works for me.

[avgas]

Everybody fucks up occasionally.
In Eric Buell's case its when he builds a bike. He fucked it up many moons ago and Harley came to the rescue. Now the plonkers have put him back in charge and the first thing he does is make an ugly bike and scrap one of their best selling bikes (Blast) when the world is crying out for big singles (case and point Mac Motorcycles - who will make a killing out of the old Blast motors).
Don't be surprised if the XB12S disappears on Eric's rampage of marketing only the bikes HE likes.

[Big Dave]

In Eric Buell's case its when he builds a bike. He fucked it up many moons ago and Harley came to the rescue.

Bwahhahahahaah! Fuck that's funny. Well done.

[2much]

Why?

If you read it, it is to quote: "Here's a top 5 countdown of the bikes rated highest for handling by user reviewers in the MCN bike reviews section."
Does not mean it's a crock of shit.

Maybe every Buell rider voted distorting the votes, possibly Suzuki riders were too busy repairing their crashed bikes, maybe Honda riders were busy choosing new fabric for their drapes, Harley riders were probably online ordering bling and Italian bike riders were at work saving up for their next service ...........

Whatever the reason that's the results and judging by the owners feedback in this post relating to the handling of the bikes (what the award is about, not power) it may well be deserved.

I feel the need for a test ride ......:clap:

Of interest to the power freaks who have posted - power and handling are separate issues, indeed I suspect if you had a 160hp engine in the X series Buell the handling would probably degrade. As a owner of a 110hp bike I can attest to the fun that can be had at speeds under warp factor 10.

Yes I read that it's a 'user review', but I still believe that their results are bs and suspect that only 5 'users' (read; noobs who have only riden a gn250 to compare) replied. While handling is always going to be a matter of opinion, and 100 different people will 100 different conclusions, those results are so 'out of wack' that it's laughable. I'm surprised they bother to print such crap.

I've owned a K2 GSXR1000, and while it's a great bike, it certainly ain't #4 even of the list of bikes I've ridden. I mean, what the fuck is it doing in front of the K6 750? And I've spent a bit of yime onboard an XB12S, and while it is a nice bike, that hands pretty well, it's still far from the 'be all and end all' of motorcycle handling. Personally I'd rate the R above the S in anything but tight 1st gear corners.

As for the comment on power (where the fuck did I mention anything about power output?), while I agree that max hp is not a factor in handling (hell I have a 65hp RS250 that would almost certainly run rings around all those supposed top 5). Tractability and delivery of power most certainly are import factors in how well a bike handles.

So basically, having experienced 3 of those bikes, I look at the results and call "bullshit". I don't give a fuck how they came up with it.

Go get that test ride, then see if you agree.

[The Stranger]

So to put this in a perspective.
If we are to believe this link, then the K1 GSXR 1000 handles better than all the GSXR's after it, is this correct?

[98tls]

iconic, That must be a wonderful place you live in.A 78 Ducati 900 SS is iconic,ive no problem with Buells but there a long way from being described as so,though the early ones could be termed somewhat ironic.

[Big Dave]

What it means to me is a kind of confirmation that Erik's theory of centrailised mass works.

The amount of manufacturers that are slinging the muffler underneath the vehicle now is also is a pointer.

a number of manfs have started relocating where the fuel is kept too - lower down and more central.

[Drew]

What it means to me is a kind of confirmation that Erik's theory of centrailised mass works.

The amount of manufacturers that are slinging the muffler underneath the vehicle now is also is a pointer.

a number of manfs have started relocating where the fuel is kept too - lower down and more central.

Dunno about this.

The most capable bikes on the planet are motoGP bikes, and none of this mass centralisation is going on there.

[Big Dave]

Dunno about this.

The most capable bikes on the planet are motoGP bikes, and none of this mass centralisation is going on there.


They don't have large, heavy mufflers - and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.

[Drew]

They don't have large, heavy mufflers - and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.


There is still more gains in having pipes tuned to length, and made from decent materials, than there is in mounting something under the bike.

To say that chucking the pipe underneath is good, because the ER650 has it, might be a stretch. Suzuki did it on the K6 600/750, but have given the idea up now. Why is that I wonder?

I'll say it again though.

There's nothing wrong with the Buell, they are great fun and good looking bikes.

[Big Dave]

There is still more gains in having pipes tuned to length, and made from decent materials,

At significantly higher cost.




To say that chucking the pipe underneath is good, because the ER650 has it, might be a stretch. Suzuki did it on the K6 600/750, but have given the idea up now. Why is that I wonder?
.

Look at more new bikes and what the manuf have been doing with them over the last three years. They have mostly got smaller, lower and closer to the middle.

[scumdog]

Look at more new bikes and what the manuf have been doing with them over the last three years. They have mostly got smaller, lower and closer to the middle.

Sorta like HD have been doing for yonks?

(OK, they may not be light in some cases)

[dipshit]

and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.

That's for hp reasons. Placement and size of air box is very important.

I still think Buell are a quarter of a century behind the times. Honda were doing their low mass centralisation back in the 80's. The Japs have been there and done that.

And recently Gardner started telling these stories to the press...

[Swoop]

us Bull riders like what we ride
Cattle?:scratch:

[Buellistic]

Meh - I'm a bit of a grandad anyway, and I'll pull to the left to let the bikes in a real hurry pass - it's better than some arse bandit kissing your rear tyre on a public road.

I do the same as you Allan, I pull to the left and let bikes pass me, I'm not the fastest rider out there and I don't like holding other riders up and I like riding on my own and at my own pace anyway.

Oh yeah, I love my Buell 1125CR, it's my third Buell too, it doesn't make any difference to me if other people don't like them.
They do handle very well and are fun to ride and I like how the weight is down low.
There has been a couple of times when I thought I was going a bit too quick for a corner and I just lean a bit more and hang on and don't touch the brakes and I have come through OK, I feel I have lost some of my confidence over the years so I am doing the Stay Upright Advanced course next Friday, the last time I did Stay Upright was 1983 so I'm sure it will give me a boost in my confidence and my abilities.

[Big Dave]

Sorta like HD have been doing for yonks?

(OK, they may not be light in some cases)

Triumph have been doing it since 1967
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/3847420293_63d93e0028_b.jpg

[Drew]

Triumph have been doing it since 1967
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/3847420293_63d93e0028_b.jpg

Only so it'd burn some of the oil that dripped out.

[Big Dave]

I had an oil in the frame bonneville. Oil filler cap was just in front of the fuel cap. Tres handy.

[Brian d marge]

Mass centralisation is the concept of getting the heavy stuff ( everything if its possible to be on the same panes as the crankshaft rotational axis

off the top off head

I ve got plunger suspension ,..... turning is a new concept !

Stephen