Sump bung magnets [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

NordieBoy

28th August 2009, 20:15

Thought I'd do a proper thread about this...

So who wants one or two?

I'd rather send one package Welly way and one down to Chchch and let you'se guys squabble over them like seagulls.

Cost?

You'll all owe me coffees :2thumbsup

Drill a 6.5mm hole about 5mm deep in the bung and drop in a magnet.

They really work...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139755&d=1251425978

smoky

28th August 2009, 20:19

why?
:confused:

dino3310

28th August 2009, 20:31

why you ask, but to catch any lose metal matter in ya engine.
my old DR650 had no fifth but every oil change i'd find some of it on the magnet:(, i know the filters there but its good to have a little extra

dino3310

28th August 2009, 20:34

hey Fran whats with the white gloves are ya still morning MJ's passing

bart

28th August 2009, 20:41

hey Fran whats with the white gloves are ya still morning MJ's passing

Haha, you beat me to it. :dodge:

NordieBoy

28th August 2009, 21:11

As soon as I start doing something like an oil change the phone will ring...

The white glove means I can just moonwalk over to the phone to answer it.

Padmei

28th August 2009, 21:16

As soon as I start doing something like an oil change the phone will ring...

As soon as my marmite & cheese toast is ready the phone will ring....

Mmmmm melted cheese

JATZ

28th August 2009, 21:23

As soon as I start doing something like an oil change the phone will ring...

As soon as my marmite & cheese toast is ready the phone will ring....

Mmmmm melted cheese

:banana: Dial up my friends........ dial up, sorts that weee problem

magnetic sump bungs ? could be a project for shed nite. I have a 6.5 drill bit

Padmei

28th August 2009, 21:24

:banana: Dial up my friends........ dial up, sorts that weee problem

magnetic sump bungs ? could be a project for shed nite. I have a 6.5 drill bit

I can get some metal shavings...

dino3310

28th August 2009, 21:28

I can get some metal shavings...

or there might be some still left in the sump:lol:.

but seriously it would be a good idea to have a magnet in the when ya get the BIG back to gether bro

JATZ

28th August 2009, 21:32

but seriously it would be a good idea to have a magnet in the when ya get the BIG back to gether bro

Yup

45678910

pete376403

28th August 2009, 22:14

Yes, I'd like one of your magnets. How much would you like for one, and where should I send it?

Edit - how do I send you coffee? Starbucks vouchers or summat?

SixPackBack

28th August 2009, 22:22

cooneyr

28th August 2009, 22:24

Cancel my previous order - I'll have two please ;) I might be able to be a courier if the package needs shipment around mid/late September.

Cheers R

Transalper

28th August 2009, 22:25

Reckon I/we should do a weekend mission to Nelson in the next month or so.
Made it to Blenheim on the 8th, then Bluff on the 22nd, no plans for the 5th or 12th yet.

Hey, yous was typing while I was typing :Pokey:

Underground

28th August 2009, 22:38

They work alright , this came off the bung mag on my lc4 ( not to mention what was caught in the filter)

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt354/Undergroundbikepics/SV400194-1.jpg

And no , not the coin Padmei ... thats just there because its all my money and I dont want to let it out of my sight .

NordieBoy

29th August 2009, 08:29

Try http://www.magnets.co.nz/ for all your magnet needs. Neodymium magnets are the most suitable for a sump plug, make sure to glue it into the plug with an araldite or similar type glue. Excess heat will also render the magnet useless [above 120 degree C]

They are neodymium magnets and I had to wait for the guy to get some in in the size I wanted.

Don't need to glue it. Means you can re-use them. A machining/lathe drill bit would be best (flat bottom) but you're putting the magnet into a bit of steel. It's dosn't come out easily. It would only walk if a bigger bit of steel went past and touched it pulling up vertically without stopping but then you'd have other problems...

Excess heat reduces the magnetic effect but as they're strong little buggers to start with it's not so much of a problem.

NordieBoy

29th August 2009, 08:32

Yes, I'd like one of your magnets. How much would you like for one, and where should I send it?

Edit - how do I send you coffee? Starbucks vouchers or summat?

I'll be up there for a North Island Invasion sometime...

NordieBoy

29th August 2009, 08:40

Transalper

29th August 2009, 08:46

I've got to send TransAlper a CD of Big River clips so could send the magnets down to him in the same package?
Sounds ok so long as the magnets don't dent the cd.
Otherwise either Ryan or I are pretty sure to be up there in the next 4 weeks.
Cheers
TA.

warewolf

29th August 2009, 09:42

Right. I think the easiest way is if I send 15 north, 15 south, keep 20 here for the locals and let you seagulls at them.KTMs... magnets are OEM.

SixPackBack

29th August 2009, 10:30

They are neodymium magnets and I had to wait for the guy to get some in in the size I wanted.

Don't need to glue it. Means you can re-use them. A machining/lathe drill bit would be best (flat bottom) but you're putting the magnet into a bit of steel. It's dosn't come out easily. It would only walk if a bigger bit of steel went past and touched it pulling up vertically without stopping but then you'd have other problems...

Excess heat reduces the magnetic effect but as they're strong little buggers to start with it's not so much of a problem.

Yes they are strong, and they will lose their magnetism completely above a certain temperature, they are also brittle and prone to cracking/flaking without much provocation. Gluing them would give a little more confidence........

Aslan

29th August 2009, 15:26

Right. I think the easiest way is if I send 15 north, 15 south, keep 20 here for the locals and let you seagulls at them.

I've got to send TransAlper a CD of Big River clips so could send the magnets down to him in the same package?

Wellywood... Who lives there that want's a magnetic personality?

OK Fran - I'll put my hand up to be Wellington /Lower North Island coordinator for distribution of your magnets - taking one for my DR - please PM me with cost per magnet to pay / charge - Ta Aslan :first:

andy mac

31st August 2009, 08:36

OK Fran - I'll put my hand up to be Wellington /Lower North Island coordinator for distribution of your magnets - taking one for my DR - please PM me with cost per magnet to pay / charge - Ta Aslan :first:

Aslan put 2 aside for me. Thanks Fran from Andy

Willdat?

31st August 2009, 09:34

sweet, does sound like a good shed night project...I've only got regular flavour drill bits though. How did you do yours Fran?

NordieBoy

31st August 2009, 11:11

sweet, does sound like a good shed night project...I've only got regular flavour drill bits though. How did you do yours Fran?

Drill press.

They're actually (just measured them) 6.3x6.3mm cylinders.

Aslan

31st August 2009, 19:21

Aslan put 2 aside for me. Thanks Fran from Andy

Ok Andy Mac - subject to confirmation of my offer to coordinate for Lower North by Fran - congrats on the Yamaha BTW :wari:

Aslan

31st August 2009, 19:47

Ok Andy Mac - subject to confirmation of my offer to coordinate for Lower North by Fran - congrats on the Yamaha BTW :wari:

for the interested (in addition to AndyMac) in the Lower North - PM me your interest as Fran (aka Nordie Boy) is posting some magnets to me

NordieBoy

10th September 2009, 18:04

The sump bung magnets are away!

15 to Aslan, 15 to TransAlper and 2 to Monstaman cause he's speshull...

gav24

10th September 2009, 18:50

Just found this thread, and planning an oil change in the next few weeks...
...SOOO...
Aslan, any chance of one for me, or are they all spoken for in the Wellington area?
If not how much each?
Thanks

Aslan

10th September 2009, 22:38

Hi Gav - I'm sure there's still one there for you - as to cost I've suggested to NordieBoy he tell us his costs for the magnets and shipping and we split the cost - short answer I don't know cost yet.

Eight of the fifteen expected are spoken for including Gav's request.

Welly riders who have not already PM'd me and who want a magnet please do so. Ta

Monstaman

10th September 2009, 23:07

and 2 to Monstaman cause he's speshull...

My therapist said that too ... it must be true :crazy:

NordieBoy

11th September 2009, 07:43

No $$ for the magnets just coffee next time we meet.

Monstaman

11th September 2009, 08:01

No $$ for the magnets just coffee next time we meet.

Luv the Kiwi way, swap, trade, give .. pay it forward ... you just never know when it will come back around! :woohoo:

Aslan

11th September 2009, 18:40

No $$ for the magnets just coffee next time we meet.

thanks Fran - that's very generous + what Monstaman said - cheers S

gav24

11th September 2009, 20:23

Yep, Its all karma man!:innocent:
What goes around...
May you ride safe and prosper!:scooter:

Monstaman

14th September 2009, 13:08

Mine arrived today, many thanks Nordie!!

Can't believe the strength of these little sods, we have a red granite benchtop with gray in between, well as it turns out the gray has a partial metal content and these little magnets stick to a stone top.

These will hang onto a good size Afro of metal particles for sure!

NordieBoy

14th September 2009, 15:35

Yeah.
Don't use them as fridge magnets :D

NordieBoy

14th September 2011, 17:58

Still got some of these left...

:yes:

MXNUT

14th September 2011, 18:22

Still got some of these left...

:yes:

Just brought a DR650 for Suzi Girl ( moving up from her 200 ) so i would be keen on one of those.

Let me know how to pay you for it ??

NordieBoy

14th September 2011, 18:28

Got 10 left...

2 for MonstaMan.
1 for MXNUT.

7 left...

Pikey

14th September 2011, 18:34

Yes please :) if you can send one with the sprocket?
Coffee and a kabab when I'm down :yes:

Monstaman

14th September 2011, 18:36

These may be the most traveled magnets starting April next year :woohoo:

Will photograph them at each oil change interval in a different location Nordie, preferably with a beautiful back drop :Punk:

NordieBoy

14th September 2011, 20:09

These may be the most traveled magnets starting April next year :woohoo:

My DR one has done about 48,000km :D

NordieBoy

14th September 2011, 20:10

Pikey 1

6 to go...

Monstaman

14th September 2011, 20:21

My DR one has done about 48,000km :D

That has set the bar!! :drinknsin

We will be cheating of course being on the road most days :headbang:

JATZ

14th September 2011, 20:28

Oh alright.... I can do you a favour and take a couple of your hands :yes:....... wouldn't do it for anyone else you know :innocent:

Woodman

14th September 2011, 20:35

Yea i could use one too thanks. Swap you for an "only used twice" route sheet holder:yes:

Padmei

14th September 2011, 20:40

paaah sump magnets are sooo 2009

Monstaman

14th September 2011, 20:42

Yea i could use an inflatable one too thanks.

Can you get bung magnets with high buoyancy options Nordie ..... :devil2: :shutup:

Woodman

14th September 2011, 20:50

Can you get bung magnets with high buoyancy options Nordie ..... :devil2: :shutup:

Oooohh you, you good fulla you.............

Monstaman

14th September 2011, 21:37

Oooohh you, you good fulla you.............

Given you are MUCH bigger than me it is better to give you shit from behind the keyboard :lol: ... and I couldn't resist :innocent:

NordieBoy

20th September 2011, 09:11

paulj

20th September 2011, 15:02

paaah sump magnets are sooo 2009

They sure are - that's when my NSU screw fell into the sump - fortunately it didn't make it into the gears and today it appeared on the end of the sump plug as below.

Now - if we could get some big nuts that attracted other kinds of screws I'd be a starter.

george formby

20th September 2011, 15:40

I couple of those neothingymium magnets sounds like an excellent idea but would they rob me of my Super human strength & x-ray vision & would I have to ride without my cape?

NordieBoy

20th September 2011, 18:02

I couple of those neothingymium magnets sounds like an excellent idea but would they rob me of my Super human strength & x-ray vision & would I have to ride without my cape?

But they confer a magnetic personality.

You don't even need to ride with your undies on the outside.

888

20th September 2011, 18:36

yup, I want one.
:woohoo:

pete376403

20th September 2011, 22:21

Would they stick to a stainless steel sump plug? The klr has now got a really low profile sump plug. (spose I could drill a recess in the end and epoxy it in place.)

pete-blen

20th September 2011, 22:28

Would they stick to a stainless steel sump plug? The klr has now got a really low profile sump plug. (spose I could drill a recess in the end and epoxy it in place.)

No..
drill the hole a bit deeper if possable?.....
then punch the hole over slightly after its in..
Then theres no worry of the glue/epoxy letting go with heat...

if the plug is a bit shy on depth.. drill the hole
with a slot drill "2 flute mill cutter" then yer havn't got the
extra hole depth from the drills point..
PS..start the hole with a drill..It will keep the slot drill centred
at the start...

NordieBoy

21st September 2011, 06:53

DR Girl

21st September 2011, 16:56

Would love 1 also if poss. Lost sump plug during a Epic Ride off Taupo Rd a cple years back. Had just done an oil change & put in sump plug finger tight. Mate arrived 2 do a tyre change, said I need to tighten up sump bolt, he said he will do. He didn't say . . it was already tight. DR 200 x2 14?mm bolts underneath. Wrong 1 got tightened :shit: Lucky 200 cut out first !! Couldn't thinking noticing how rattly bike was getting. Getting a few tiny tiny shavings/dust in oil changes. Got off v lucky.:facepalm:

george formby

21st September 2011, 17:10

If you have a couple left I would happily send you a pre paid enevlope for them & shout you the best coffee in the Bay if you ever head up this way. Might even chuck in a cookie.:yes:

pete376403

21st September 2011, 18:23

You want the hole too be about 3mm deep so only one pole of the magnet is in the hole for normal bungs.
JB weld or epoxy for alloy or stainless.

The magnets are good to hold about 0.7kg of ferrous metal.

I've also seen 175deg at the top oil banjo on the head of the TT and the magnet still holds well.

These are what I have:
http://www.a2stainless.co.uk/M12-x-1-50-x-12mm-Pipe-Plug-DIN-908-A2-70_AICFS.aspx

The socket is 11mm deep and the overall length is 15mm so it would be cutting it a bit fine.

NordieBoy

21st September 2011, 19:06

These are what I have:
http://www.a2stainless.co.uk/M12-x-1-50-x-12mm-Pipe-Plug-DIN-908-A2-70_AICFS.aspx

The socket is 11mm deep and the overall length is 15mm so it would be cutting it a bit fine.

On that, the hole would only need to be deep enough to locate the magnet, then epoxy.

pete376403

21st September 2011, 20:44

ok so how do I get a couple of these magnets from you?

Could pay in coffee beans if you like strong dark coffee
(http://www.coffeelala.com/coffee_blends.html - La Bomb)

pete376403

21st September 2011, 20:47

Would love 1 also if poss. Lost sump plug during a Epic Ride off Taupo Rd a cple years back. Had just done an oil change & put in sump plug finger tight.

Something I was told in my apprenticeship - never put a drain plug back in unless you tighten it there and then.

cave weta

21st September 2011, 21:03

Yes they are strong, and they will lose their magnetism completely above a certain temperature, they are also brittle and prone to cracking/flaking without much provocation. Gluing them would give a little more confidence........

Not rare earth magnets- they dont flake and they are 48 times stronger than iron (flakey magnets) when he sends me a magnet it comes wrapped in 6" of corugated carboard to stop it sticking to the courier van www.dangerousmagnets.co.nz

NordieBoy

21st September 2011, 21:11

Not rare earth magnets- they dont flake and they are 48 times stronger than iron (flakey magnets) when he sends me a magnet it comes wrapped in 6" of corugated carboard to stop it sticking to the courier van www.dangerousmagnets.co.nz

But he also says don't let them click together with force as they could shatter...

That's where I'm getting mine from.
The first ones he had to get in for me special :D

It gives me the willies just thinking of the force involved in a pair of his bigger magnets coming together...

Ocean1

21st September 2011, 21:33

when he sends me a magnet it comes wrapped in 6" of corugated carboard to stop it sticking to the courier van

I make wall crawling robots, to carry instruments up bulk storage tank shells. Transporting one off shore is a bureaucratic nightmare, with supermagnets of that capacity the flyboys insist on up to 1M separation (depending on airline) and that means a 2.5M cube crate to freight something the size of a shoebox.

Squiggles

21st September 2011, 22:31

But he also says don't let them click together with force as they could shatter...

That's where I'm getting mine from.
The first ones he had to get in for me special :D

It gives me the willies just thinking of the force involved in a pair of his bigger magnets coming together...

We shattered one :crybaby:.

And don't ever try to pry em apart with kitchen implements... :facepalm:

pete376403

22nd September 2011, 11:43

But he also says don't let them click together with force as they could shatter...

That's where I'm getting mine from.
The first ones he had to get in for me special :D

It gives me the willies just thinking of the force involved in a pair of his bigger magnets coming together...

As long as your willie isn't between the two magnets...

XF650

22nd September 2011, 13:51

An alternative to shrapnel in ya willie - Suzuki quad diff bungs are same size as DR650, with magnet fitted as std.

NordieBoy

22nd September 2011, 14:30

An alternative to shrapnel in ya willie - Suzuki quad diff bungs are same size as DR650, with magnet fitted as std.

That's cause Suzuki doesn't trust farmers.

Padmei

22nd September 2011, 20:35

I make wall crawling robots, to carry instruments up bulk storage tank shells. Transporting one off shore is a bureaucratic nightmare, with supermagnets of that capacity the flyboys insist on up to 1M separation (depending on airline) and that means a 2.5M cube crate to freight something the size of a shoebox.

Man i've always wanted to be a wall crawling robot... Any jobs going with your work?

Ocean1

22nd September 2011, 20:57

Man i've always wanted to be a wall crawling robot...

No you don't.

Nobody can ever pull you off.

XF650

5th October 2011, 08:22

Fran has given me a dozen of his magnets to drop off to anyone who wants one, in the course of my SI work trips. I can vouch they are bloody strong too.
PM me here if ya want one.

Monstaman

5th October 2011, 09:21

Fran has given me a dozen of his magnets to drop off to anyone who wants one, in the course of my SI work trips. I can vouch they are bloody strong too.
PM me here if ya want one.

Heya Struan

If you are catching up with my ugly twin bro can you drop our two off with him, we will be coming to Chch at some stage so will pick em then.

XF650

6th October 2011, 12:48

Heya Struan

If you are catching up with my ugly twin bro can you drop our two off with him, we will be coming to Chch at some stage so will pick em then.

No worries - Deb's does great coffee.

Eddieb

6th October 2011, 14:58

Just got another shipment of magnets (32 more) on it's way to me.

Means I can do a couple of "bulk" parcels to say Welly, Aucks, ChCh etc.

2 for MonstaMan - Wankana.
1 for MXNUT - Oop norf?
1 for Pikey - Kapiti (can attach a handful to the sprocket and you can dole them out up there?).
2 for Jatz - Brooklyn, New York(ish).
1 for Woodman - Richmond.

Any that need coming my way or up to Hamilton/surrounds you could leave on your deck this weekend. If things work out I could take them onto Hamilton at the end of next week.

NordieBoy

6th October 2011, 15:18

Any that need coming my way or up to Hamilton/surrounds you could leave on your deck this weekend. If things work out I could take them onto Hamilton at the end of next week.

I'll stick a dozen to the tank.

XF650

11th October 2011, 23:06

Dropped off ya magnets today Monstaman.
Paul had his bikes lined up so had to take a couple of pics.
That brand spanking new GG300 looks the bizz.

Monstaman

12th October 2011, 08:47

Good line up of stinkies ..... bro ya need to shoehorn a 650 stinkie into the DR!! .. that would make it get up and boogie.

Struan, cheers for dropping those in to Paul, got some mates going to Chch tomorrow so perfect timing for delivery back to Wonka along with other stuff for our trip :woohoo:

ADVGD

12th October 2011, 09:29

Lining your bikes up for expected visitors... poser, wanker, and so forth :p

Naa, good job on the Gas Gas mate, bloody nice bike, you'll have a hard time ignoring my repetitive requests for a quick blat :innocent:

XF650

22nd October 2011, 10:13

Nordie - Double Troubles got a pair each now, thepom sorted too.
With all the gratuitous coffees your gonna score at the DB you won't sleep, so you may as well do the 1 Dayer.