It's official! I'm a mutant! XS helmet too big!

[Ms Piggy]

Him indoors has been getting all his motorbike gear sorted recently including getting a new helmet. I was present when the salesman was discussing how snug a helmet should be when you buy it. I thought to myself: "Shit! My helmet is really quite loose...I think I better get me a new one too!", no it was nothing to do with the cool new helmet him indoors had just purchased...okay maybe a little bit of lid envy.

So I began trying on and chatting with the sales people and nope, nope, nah, no way, that's yuk lookin' and naaaa. So they got me in a XS HJC (can't recall which specific one, it was pretty and had sparkles and flowers!) and it's still too loose! I also tried an AGV and that was worse but he's ordering me in something else - I think it was an LS2 or possibly a more expensive AGV.

Anyone else got a mega pin head? What did ya get?

My current helmet is a medium and it made me reflect that I was possibly given poor advice on helmet size & fitting originally by the first salesperson I bought a helmet from.

I've actually had the same issue (being mutant that is) with getting proper motorbike boots, I have size 8 feet but pretty meaty calves (bein' a true blue Southern lass). So I've given up and just wear my Docs.

Oh yeah - what were we advised by the sales people regarding helmet fit? It should be very snug and you shouldn't be able to move it up and down or side to side a lot when you grab it at the front.

[wysper]

Yep that sounds right.
Nice and tight and your face looks like a guppy all squashed up by the cheek pads.

I am having a mission trying to find a helmet small enough for my daughter. She is only 5 though. Kids road helmets are pretty tricky things to find.

Good luck with the new lid though!

[MIXONE]

Shoei used to make a real small size.It was even to tight for my 10 year old son.

[kave]

My wife had a similar problem. We ended up getting a HJC youth large size. The guys at motomail ordered it in for us.

[yungatart]

OMG!!! You are truly odd, Ms P!
I also have a small noggin...I have an HJC xs flip front..it is perfect for me. The trouble I had was getting a bike shop to get a selection of XS helmets in for me to try on...most shops just didn't want to know me!
You could try growing your hair...my helmet gets to tight when I am in need of a haircut!

[Ms Piggy]

My wife had a similar problem. We ended up getting a HJC youth large size. The guys at motomail ordered it in for us.

Yep tried that too! I managed to squish into the youth one but it wasn't right.

[Ms Piggy]

OMG!!! You are truly odd, Ms P!
I also have a small noggin...I have an HJC xs flip front..it is perfect for me. The trouble I had was getting a bike shop to get a selection of XS helmets in for me to try on...most shops just didn't want to know me!
You could try growing your hair...my helmet gets to tight when I am in need of a haircut!
Thanks Tarty :crybaby: Flip top eh...might ask him about that, he's been okay about getting some in so far...mind you has only had to get 1! I was very surprised it didn't fit.

As far as growing my hair, no thanks! I fiiiiinally found a style that I like and can even look passable with helmet hair!

[Ms Piggy]

Shoei used to make a real small size.It was even to tight for my 10 year old son.

Yeah, I was kinds trying to avoid paying Shoei prices but might have to bite the bullet. After all, my head does kinda come in useful at times.

[James Deuce]

You and Hitcher should start a club for the Cranially Challenged.

[p.dath]

Be carefull with the model of HJC helmet. Some of them have a terrible 1 or 2 star SHARP safety rating. I would recommend checking any helmet you think thinking about buying on SHARP safety web site. I'd aim to get a helmet with a 4 or 5 star safety rating (assuming it is for road use).

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

[Trudes]

I used to have a HJC youth xs helmet, but found at above about 80km it would push into my face and squish my nose, so I crashed that and got a different model HJC in an XS that fits ok (well, ok enough for a bucket helmet) but I found a perfect fit in a certain model Arai XS. Found the Shoei and several other brand XS still too big, so have to wonder if the shape of the helmet also effects the sizing fit. Go figure.

[James Deuce]

Be carefull with the model of HJC helmet. Some of them have a terrible 1 or 2 star SHARP safety rating. I would recommend checking any helmet you think thinking about buying on SHARP safety web site. I'd aim to get a helmet with a 4 or 5 star safety rating (assuming it is for road use).

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Seriously, dude, SHARP is but one testing authority out there and it is NOT an approved standards body. It is also a Government organisation in a country actively trying to ban motorcycling.

I would give it no more than a cursory glance. The most important thing about any helmet is how it fits your head. It doesn't matter how it rates in some arbitrary scoring system if it doesn't fit your head shape perfectly.

[p.dath]

Be carefull with the model of HJC helmet. Some of them have a terrible 1 or 2 star SHARP safety rating. I would recommend checking any helmet you think thinking about buying on SHARP safety web site. I'd aim to get a helmet with a 4 or 5 star safety rating (assuming it is for road use).

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Let me qualify my own post - get a good fitting helmet first (as that is crucial), and if it comes down to a choice between a couple I'd take the one with the higher SHARP safety rating. :)

[NordieBoy]

Let me qualify my own post - get a good fitting helmet first (as that is crucial), and if it comes down to a choice between a couple I'd take the one with the higher SHARP safety rating. :)

I'd go for a good fit and then get the cheapest. It still passed the NZ standard or it can't be sold here.

[Jonno.]

Try the Shark s800's. They have a girly design and I think small is smaller then HJC xs.

[p.dath]

I'd go for a good fit and then get the cheapest. It still passed the NZ standard or it can't be sold here.

I guess that's a personal choice - price or greater safety. If you find the minimum acceptable standard defined by our law as okay then definitely shop on price. Let me re-phrase that - there is nothing wrong with the minimum standard persee, it's just a choice of weather you want to exceed it.

My personal preference, I'd rather have a higher safety rating. Head injuries are particularly difficult to recover from. :)

[James Deuce]

I guess that's a personal choice - price or greater safety. If you find the minimum acceptable standard defined by our law as okay then definitely shop on price. Let me re-phrase that - there is nothing wrong with the minimum standard persee, it's just a choice of weather you want to exceed it.

My personal preference, I'd rather have a higher safety rating. Head injuries are particularly difficult to recover from. :)

You, my friend, NEED to read this.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

That is the article I refer to when talking about helmet "safety".

Motorcyclist Magazine lost all their advertising from Shoei and Arai over that. Helmets shouldn't be designed to pass tests OR meet standards. They should be designed to act as an exoskeletal impact mitigation device.

[Owl]

Yeah, I was kinds trying to avoid paying Shoei prices but might have to bite the bullet. After all, my head does kinda come in useful at times.

Just a possible option Ms Piggy?

We have a XS Shoei Raid II here that is no longer used. Its just over 2 years old, but mint and has hardly been used. My partner bought it for occasional pillion purposes, but found it a little too tight and gave her a headache. She purchased an Arai Chaser nearly 6 months ago, so it has sat in a box since then.
It hasn't been dropped and it would be pretty bloody cheap. You'd be welcome to check it out and try it for size.

[Ms Piggy]

Just a possible option Ms Piggy?
Have sent ya a PM. :)

[Jonno.]

Snell has been around since before those helmets where as SHARP ratings were given after those most (if not all) of those helmets were already in production, ie they weren't designed to pass SHARP.

I definitely gave it a look when buying and wouldn't trust a one or two star helmet.

[James Deuce]

Snell has been around since before those helmets where as SHARP ratings were given after those most (if not all) of those helmets were already in production, ie they weren't designed to pass SHARP.

I definitely gave it a look when buying and wouldn't trust a one or two star helmet.

Nothing is designed to pass SHARP. It ISN'T a standard. It is a Government Agency Testing Regime.

Read that article I posted above.

[chanceyy]

Just a possible option Ms Piggy?

We have a XS Shoei Raid II here that is no longer used. Its just over 2 years old, but mint and has hardly been used. My partner bought it for occasional pillion purposes, but found it a little too tight and gave her a headache. She purchased an Arai Chaser nearly 6 months ago, so it has sat in a box since then.
It hasn't been dropped and it would be pretty bloody cheap. You'd be welcome to check it out and try it for size.

:clap: :niceone: good on ya Al :yes:

I would bling you if I could but hell I have a few to catch up on :laugh:


Have sent ya a PM. :)

so a ride to Palmy is it Cathy ??

[Ms Piggy]

so a ride to Palmy is it Cathy ??

Could be Sandra, I'll just check out a few local options but it's not an unfeasible option cos him indoors mother is in D'virke. Will let ya know if we're passing through.

[chanceyy]

Could be Sandra, I'll just check out a few local options but it's not an unfeasible option cos him indoors mother is in D'virke. Will let ya know if we're passing through.

hmm or I might make my way up to palmy as well .. its always good to catch up with Al & Tracey for coffee (& a hug) and we can always get some more bytches to turn up :yes:

[Owl]

(& a hug)

Grrrr:oi-grr:

[chanceyy]

Grrrr:oi-grr:

:hug::hug: :hug: it does not hurt that much :hug: :hug: :hug: :devil2:

[Ms Piggy]

hmm or I might make my way up to palmy as well .. its always good to catch up with Al & Tracey for coffee (& a hug) and we can always get some more bytches to turn up :yes:

Hmmmmm, I like your idea!

[Pegasus]

hmm or I might make my way up to palmy as well .. its always good to catch up with Al & Tracey for coffee (& a hug) and we can always get some more bytches to turn up :yes:

Hey "Huggy Chick" Yeah a catch up would be good. :hug: back at ya. :D

[Ragingrob]

Why don't you just get an.... xxs HJC?

Just wondering...

[chanceyy]

Hmmmmm, I like your idea!

:sunny: Awesome .. :scratch: may even try & ride BB up .. :whistle:

(working next sat but any other weekend or nite is free)


Hey "Huggy Chick" Yeah a catch up would be good. :hug: back at ya. :D


:rofl: everyone needs a hug even if they do not realise it :) .. yeah babe catch up sounds fantastic .. :hug:

[James Deuce]

:hug::hug: :hug: it does not hurt that much :hug: :hug: :hug: :devil2:


Did you see how fast he moved when I threatened to hug him when I met him?

Should change his name to Flash.

[Mom]

Anyone else got a mega pin head? What did ya get?

Oh to have your problem, apparently I have a big head :clap:


OMG!!! You are truly odd, Ms P! You could try growing your hair...my helmet gets too tight when I am in need of a haircut!

Perhaps that is why I have the problem of finding a helmet to fit my fat head :rolleyes:


The most important thing about any helmet is how it fits your head. It doesn't matter how it rates in some arbitrary scoring system if it doesn't fit your head shape perfectly.

And some people call you a plonker :oi-grr:


I guess that's a personal choice - price or greater safety.
My personal preference, I'd rather have a higher safety rating. Head injuries are particularly difficult to recover from. :)

Wearing the safest of the safe helmet according to the "experts" does not matter a damn if the thing does not fit well. All we need is a good standards approved lid, that fits our fat/thin/round/egg shaped/big hair/bald as a badger head.

Price has nothing to do with safety! Nothing at all! Some of us choose to spend a bit more to buy a lighter lid. Wankers that wear an ill fitting lid, that looks "cool" and costs the earth, are either stupid or ignorant.

[Owl]

Did you see how fast he moved when I threatened to hug him when I met him?

Should change his name to Flash.

These KB'ers are getting a little too friendly for my liking.

I may have to change my name to "NoHugs":(

[chanceyy]

Did you see how fast he moved when I threatened to hug him when I met him?

Should change his name to Flash.

:blank: not surprised with a man :hug:

[chanceyy]

These KB'ers are getting a little too friendly for my liking.

I may have to change my name to "NoHugs":(

:killingme that can be arranged .. but it will not change you getting a :hug:

are we :Offtopic: yet ??

[NordieBoy]

I guess that's a personal choice - price or greater safety. If you find the minimum acceptable standard defined by our law as okay then definitely shop on price. Let me re-phrase that - there is nothing wrong with the minimum standard persee, it's just a choice of weather you want to exceed it.

My personal preference, I'd rather have a higher safety rating. Head injuries are particularly difficult to recover from. :)

I just have issues with how the Sharp tests are done and scored.

I also have issues with Snell not keeping up with the times.

I have issues.

[James Deuce]

Which rhymes with tissues!

[Ms Piggy]

...:Offtopic: This is meant to be about moi and moi pin head! So, look at moi! Looooook at mooooooi!

[James Deuce]

Rhymes with Pee!

[Ragingrob]

...:Offtopic: This is meant to be about moi and moi pin head! So, look at moi! Looooook at mooooooi!

Seriously... Why didn't you just grab the next size down? HJC definitely do helmets in size xxs.

[chanceyy]

...:Offtopic: This is meant to be about moi and moi pin head! So, look at moi! Looooook at mooooooi!

sorry doll :hug: :yes: you do have a pin head :innocent:.. I been looking ... reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :sunny:

so a ride to palmy then???? :whistle:

[AllanB]

What type of crap sales person were you talking to????


They should be trained to know that when fitting a helmet on a girl you give them the correct size first then sell them one two sizes too big so so their hair will not get messed up. :innocent:

I'm pretty sure there is a law like that for the scooter-girls. :laugh:

[howdamnhard]

You, my friend, NEED to read this.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

That is the article I refer to when talking about helmet "safety".

Motorcyclist Magazine lost all their advertising from Shoei and Arai over that. Helmets shouldn't be designed to pass tests OR meet standards. They should be designed to act as an exoskeletal impact mitigation device.

Hey great article , bit long but worth the reading. Thanks for posting it. Please post the follow up one on new helmet safety design ideas when you have it.
As far as safety ratings go , giving all other variables being equal, I would always choose the helmet with the higher safety rating.

[Ms Piggy]

sorry doll :hug: :yes: you do have a pin head :innocent:.. I been looking ... reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :sunny:

so a ride to palmy then???? :whistle:

:bleh: Could be a trip up your way, I'll keep ya posted!

[Ms Piggy]

Seriously... Why didn't you just grab the next size down? HJC definitely do helmets in size xxs.

Seriously...because there was no mention of an xxs to "grab" but thanks for the info I'll certainly ask. I get the feeling they're probably reluctant because it means then they'd have it in stock to sell if it doesn't fit me.

[Ms Piggy]

Rhymes with Pee!

Shut up you! 1 too many whiskey's tonight eh!

[F5 Dave]

I don't usually look at this thread but I couldn't go past the heading
"It's official! I'm a mutant!"

Sorry to hear Cathy hope you find something, maybe you just have to develop a serious Big Hair & hairspray 'Do.
:done:

[Number One]

Wow - XS is too big...funny I don't recall you looking like this guy... (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/texicana/ShrunkenHeadGuy-1.jpg)

[bungbung]

I skipped a couple of pages, Lisa has a XS shoei she has offered you to try if that helps.

[Ms Piggy]

I skipped a couple of pages, Lisa has a XS shoei she has offered you to try if that helps.

Yes please! Will pm ya. Thanks!

[Pixie]

Anyone else got a mega pin head?

In keeping with ISO.Pinheads should have the milli,micro,nano,etc. prefixes

[vifferman]

While my wife doesn't have a very small head, it is small, and square (Dutch genes?). She had a borrowed BMW flip-front (actually made by Schuberth), and it was too big. We went looking at flip-fronts as she wears spectaculars, and found that they were not as safe, as even in the right size for her, they moved around on her head too much. We ended up buying a Shoei Raid, which fit very well. And a VFR, but that's another story.
Mebbe the vifferbabe is related to you? :confused: She also has problems with footwear, because of her feet - they're tiny! But strangely, we had no problems with those - bought some Diadora race boots online, very cheap, and they fit almost perfectly!

It's all academic now - she hasn't ridden with me for a LOOOOOOOOONG time now. :no: And I dunno why, although it's allegedly because even though she made me buy the VFR and it was our first bike, it's now no longer our bike, and is just mine, because I've ruined it by "fiddling with it" (i.e., fitting better suspension, indicators, gear change components, etc.) Personally, that sounds a bit suss and very weak to me.
But it's sad.
The nett result is I don't ride on weekends anymore, and if we go anywhere, it's always in the car.:(

[Ms Piggy]

The hunt continues! Went and tried on a friends sml Shoei last night and it felt very snug, so that means an xs Shoei would probably be too tight. *siiiiigh*

Blardy expensive business this motorbicycle riding lark!

[Owl]

If your measurement of 57cm is correct, then an XS will certainly be too small.
I know you're not looking to spend a fortune, but check out Arai, so you can at least determine the shape of your head. This guide may be of some help?

http://www.motorcyclegear.co.nz/images/Arai.pdf

[Trudes]

You're welcome to come round and try on my teeny tiny Arai if you like.

[Beemer]

My first Shoei RXR was a size XXS - 52cm from memory. It's still snug years later, but when I bought a new helmet a few years ago I got a Shoei Raid and it's a small. It's not as tight as the RXR but it is still a good snug fit. I tried a small in another Shoei style and it nearly killed me once I had it on!

So no, you're not the only one with a small head - and at least no one can pinch your helmet as it won't fit them!

Helmets vary greatly in the sizes - I think my Nolan was a small - so you really have to shop around and try them. I bought the RXR from Wellington Motorcycles and they got the XXS in for me after I tried the XS and found it still a little loose. That's where I got the Raid from too.

Forgot to mention, if you're ever up this way, you'd be more than welcome to try both helmets on for size.

[p.dath]

You, my friend, NEED to read this.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

That is the article I refer to when talking about helmet "safety".

Motorcyclist Magazine lost all their advertising from Shoei and Arai over that. Helmets shouldn't be designed to pass tests OR meet standards. They should be designed to act as an exoskeletal impact mitigation device.

Thanks for that articles James. That article has given me a lot to think about.

At the moment I'm thinking the SNELL standard may not be so great to aim for when doing normal road riding, and a simple DOT certification may be better for the majority of road accidents.

I have re-read the SHARP testing system (especially since the article you supplied rocked my confidence in the testing standard bodies), and I do think they adequately cover the 75% of low speed impacts in their testing regime.

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/about-sharp/test-protocols/test-speeds/
"The COST 327, 2001 report recommended that impact velocity be raised from the current UN ECE Regulation 22.05 value of 7.5m/s to 8.4m/s, but to ensure that helmet performance was not compromised in the lower velocity impacts a 6.0m/s test was added."

I would love to know how SHARP ratings are affected by energy transfer to the head, but alas they just don't document very well how they come up with a final number.

I would have to say I am still a proponent of using the SHARP scale for comparing one helmet to another for safety. I much prefer a rating to a pass/fail system - but my view is more tempered after reading your article.

[vifferman]

Helmets vary greatly in the sizes
Not just the sizes - there are lotsa different shell shapes[/URL], sometimes even within a brand. You probably need to establish what shape your head is (by trying on different brands AND models, and asking what the shape is, for any that fit well). Here's some more useful info.
(http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm)
As a generalisation, Arai, Shoei and AGV are all different shell shapes, and their sizings are different. However (but!) there are exceptions. While in general, if you have a 'Shoei head' an Arai won't fit nicely (and vice-versa), the Arai Corsair sheel shape is apparently different to most Arais, and suitable for your average 'Shoei headed' biker.

I found AGVs don't fit me well, not because of the shell shape so much as because their size increments are wrong for me: my head is 58cm, but a medium is too tight, whereas a meidum-large is too big, as my head is on the boundary between the two. A ML Shoei XR1000 fits perfectly, as does an Arai Corsair (but no other Arais or HJCs). Apparently my head is a "long oval".

[davebullet]

http://www.hjchelmets.com/sizing_chart.htm

Take a measure of your noggin just to compare. I know there's more to fit than circumference, but if you measure your noggin, it might tell you if you are still one size smaller than an XXS or whether it is good to go.

Some motorcycle shops may request a deposit or some such if they bring in an unusual size... (we are in NZ after all).

[Beemer]

Not just the sizes - there are lotsa different shell shapes[/URL], sometimes even within a brand. ... While in general, if you have a 'Shoei head' an Arai won't fit nicely (and vice-versa), the Arai Corsair sheel shape is apparently different to most Arais, and suitable for your average 'Shoei headed' biker.

Very true - I find the Shoei fit me really well but the Arai don't - and the other half is the opposite. I just measured my head and it's 56cm which is a small by the HJC chart. Funny how the 52cm XXS Shoei RXR fits really well and so does the Raid - and I've just checked and found it's a small, not a medium, size 55-56cm. I like my helmets to be a snug fit which is probably why the XXS didn't bother me. One Shoei I tried was impossible to get on, despite also being a small. And the Nolan I had was horrible - made my jaw and behind my ears ache every time I wore it, and it certainly wasn't tight.

[vifferman]

And the Nolan I had was horrible - made my jaw and behind my ears ache every time I wore it, and it certainly wasn't tight.
The Nolan - that's the other helmet I was thinking of that I tried on. One day, I tried on an Arai Corsair (very comfy, but expensive), an HJC, and a Nolan. I wanted to like the Nolan, but there was some very small inconsistency in the padding behind my left ear - after a few seconds, it hurt like hell! Strangely, when I took it off, I couldn't find out what it was - perhaps some flaw in the liner, a fold in the padding, or something.

The I tried on the Shoei XR1000, and it was SO comfy! :love: Best bit was it was on special, and not much more than half the price of the Arai, AND it matched my bike's paint exactly!

[Owl]

Apparently my head is a "long oval".

In that case you should be better suited to the Arai Viper GT as opposed to the Corsair. The Corsair is "Relaxed Round Oval" in shape whereas the Viper is the "Long Oval".

[phred]

[QUOTE=Ms Piggy;1129378258

My current helmet is a medium and it made me reflect that I was possibly given poor advice on helmet size & fitting originally by the first salesperson I bought a helmet from.


Oh yeah - what were we advised by the sales people regarding helmet fit? It should be very snug and you shouldn't be able to move it up and down or side to side a lot when you grab it at the front.[/QUOTE]

My wife will happily sell you her near new XS Shoei. Hers is too tight following crap advice from the sell it guy. PM me if interested

[Ms Piggy]

You're welcome to come round and try on my teeny tiny Arai if you like.
Fanks Trudes - I may be in touch.

[Ms Piggy]

My wife will happily sell you her near new XS Shoei. Hers is too tight following crap advice from the sell it guy. PM me if interested

Thanks for the offer Fenry but the xs Shoei appears to be too small. Already explored that as an option.

I think I'll pop down to the other bike shop in my area today and see if I can do some more trying on.

[James Deuce]

These are the days of our lives....

[Owl]

These are the days of our lives....

You need a hug Jim?:hug: If so, ask someone else please!:D

[chanceyy]

You need a hug Jim?:hug: If so, ask someone else please!:D

:wari: you did it .. gave a man :hug: :clap: there is hope for you yet :whistle:


and to stay on topic good luck with ya search Cathy :yes:

[aewilliam]

I got a M and it fitted snug it was.

Then I got an XXL haircut, and it was looser than an...unsafely loose helmet.

Woe be me.

Then winter came very shortly and even more woesome was my newly shorn head.
ut themn my hoodie came, accompanied by its hood .
When the hoodie hood went into helmet helm, snug did the helmet become once again.

And the people in my head (or their voices at least...) rejoiced.

[Felix52]

My missus had the same problem - XS HJC was too big, medium youth HJC was ok-ish but not quite right. She ended up getting an XS Givi, seems to be an excellent fit for her.

[Ms Piggy]

Arrrrrggggghhhhh. The hunt continues! tried on an xs Shoei today but it was waaaay too tight! :blink: It was good to check the size anyway. Siiiigh. So they're gonna try getting some bigger cheek pads and see if that works.

Still waiting for another possible HJC helmet. Might need to give the central Wellington shops and see if they have anything else.

The Shark doesn't fit either and neither did the AGV. What's a gal to do???

[Pegasus]

Arrrrrggggghhhhh. The hunt continues! tried on an xs Shoei today but it was waaaay too tight! :blink: It was good to check the size anyway. Siiiigh. So they're gonna try getting some bigger cheek pads and see if that works.

Still waiting for another possible HJC helmet. Might need to give the central Wellington shops and see if they have anything else.

The Shark doesn't fit either and neither did the AGV. What's a gal to do???

Sorry to hear that you haven't found anything yet. Keep trying lots of different brands, you will find one eventually that fits nicely. I am still biased to the Arai though because of the option of changing the internal pads to make it fit, if needed (I didn’t need to in the end). Having said that, cost was irrelevant in my case (after the headaches my shoei gave me), I found what fitted and that’s all that mattered to me.

[Jonno.]

Have you tried an Small Shark 800?

[Ms Piggy]

Have you tried an Small Shark 800?

Yup. It doesn't fit my head shape.

[Ms Piggy]

Have you tried an Small Shark 800?


The Shark doesn't fit either
Yup. It doesn't fit my head shape.

[HenryDorsetCase]

My wife had a similar problem. We ended up getting a HJC youth large size. The guys at motomail ordered it in for us.

I'm pretty sure thats what my partner wears also.

[Ms Piggy]

Well I had just about begun to despair! But today walked in Wellington Motorcycles who had an xs HJC CLST that fitted me perfectly!! Woo hoo! I should have my own by Tuesday - I'm not a fan of shiny black.

It's very strange though because another bike shop had got an HJC xs in for me earlier in the piece and it hadn't been a good fit at all - must have been a different model.

I must give BIG ups to both TSS and Motomart who had been trying to help me out too. Thanks guys!