I HATE being beaten by a non-working engine!

[Conquiztador]

Picked up this Morrison weedeater with a small 2 smoker engine. Chap told me it would only run when he put some petrol straight in to the carbie air inlet.

"Noob" I thought. ;) This will be easy. :sherlock:Probably a cracked fuel hose. Or at worst some crap in the carbie. I have the little thingy eating the weed in my overgrown garden before I empty the first beer of the afternoon.:apint:

A sixpack later while the sun started to hide I, with a sore arm from pulling the thingys cord, gave up for the day.:argh: Have had the carbie apart umphteen times/beer. Have cleaned and ajusted and tried and came up with brilliant solutions and sworn and opened more beers.

Had some success. Managed to get the little fucker to run on high idle. But still dies when I throttle it.

The carbie is a 3 piece alloy block with small drilled holes in what seems like a madmans pattern. There is gaskets beetween the three bits. And my fingerprints on every bloody surface. But I am not winning.:scratch:

Now I am contemplating selling the possessed little shit to some other sucker.

But I just HATE being beaten by a motor. :angry:And a 2smoker at that. How hard can it be to sort a carbi that clearly has been designed by a sadistic chinese engineering student?

Hmmm... I have some nifty50 carbies lying around, perhaps I could modify...:yes: Or spend another afternoon drinking beers in my jungle of garden...

[kevfromcoro]

These things are sent to try us..
I have just spent all afternoon doing arm to arm combat with my lawmmower.
Broke the pull cord 3 times.. tipped it on its side, and pored petrol down the carb.. finally got it going..
Took me all afternoon just to mow the lawns.
Ya wonder if its not worth getting one of those landscape people to do it for ya.
could sit on the deck and watch.
and drink more beer..

[Conquiztador]

tipped it on its side, and pored petrol down the carb.. finally got it going..

My secret weapon is a yellow can called "Start Ya Bastard". I don't work on any engines w/o it in my toolkit!



Ya wonder if its not worth getting one of those landscape people to do it for ya.
could sit on the deck and watch.
and drink more beer..

Do they come in the bikini variant??

[YellowDog]

Been there and done that.

Ended up giving feedback which read "simple carb problem - resolved in 5 minutes. Thanks for a great trade"

Before dumping it at the nearest inorganic pile.

I just don't like giving the previous guy the satisfaction of knowing that it really was farked beyond repair.

[Conquiztador]

Been there and done that.

Ended up giving feedback which read "simple carb problem - resolved in 5 minutes. Thanks for a great trade"

Before dumping it at the nearest inorganic pile.

I just don't like giving the previous guy the satisfaction of knowing that it really was farked beyond repair.

THAT is a probable outcome.:wari: But not yet, I have a doz beers still in the fridge:Punk:

[Pedrostt500]

Non working Engine, so its an unemployed bum engine, fucking dole bludger engine, bet it has a smoking pot, sitting around in the shead all day just sniffing petrol, while other hard working engines are out there.

[scumdog]

Got a small 2-stroke generator off my bro.
It will run briefly if fuel tipped into the carb.
But won't keep going.
Blown air up every orifice in the carb, took it to local chainsaw shop for them to fiddle with and still no go.
Any ideas ( apart from listing it in T/M)?

[YellowDog]

Blowing is good.

But first seriously small needle through the jets is a good one.

I managed to break the needle in the jet and couldn't get it out. Hence give up time.

Try wire.

[Pedrostt500]

Check non of the diafram gaskets have small holes in them, some tiimes its just easier to put a new carbi kit in them.

[Madmax]

best ones ive seen were premix not being mixed
oil settled over the fuel outlet
no fuel no go
anyone thought of this!!!

[Skunk]

Fuck it. Read this thread and decided to do the lawns. Uncover the lawnmower (sits in the back yard under it's catcher), check the fuel - good, some left from last year :lol:
Three pulls of the starter and the cord broke. Get out the weedeater, no gas. Transfer gas from lawnmower to the weedeater. Two pulls of the starter and away we go. Lawns done in 20 minutes. Now to get a new cord for the lawnmwer sometime.

[Big Dave]

Fuck it. Read this thread and decided to do the lawns. Uncover the lawnmower (sits in the back yard under it's catcher), check the fuel - good, some left from last year :lol:
Three pulls of the starter and the cord broke. Get out the weedeater, no gas. Transfer gas from lawnmower to the weedeater. Two pulls of the starter and away we go. Lawns done in 20 minutes. Now to get a new cord for the lawnmwer sometime.

Not a blade of grass in my grounds. All paved, rocks or shrubbery (we are the knights who say nih nih nih).

More riding time.

[Conquiztador]

Not a blade of grass in my grounds. All paved, rocks or shrubbery (we are the knights who say nih nih nih).

More riding time.

Ah yes. The only solution worth considering. Concrete, asphalt and rock or wooden fence is king!
Fuck this green weed shit that steals hours from my precious life!

After 3 hours today fighting with the damnd thing and a beer after lunch came up with the obvious solution: Take a six pack to my neighbour and borrow his thingies!

[Motu]

I went through all this yesterday too.I seized the Victa 550 Pro a couple of weeks ago,and blew the headgasket too....seizure possibly caused by the headgasket leaning it out.It freed up and I replaced the headgasket yesterday...it has compression but won't go,not a poof.So I get out my Stihl weedwacker...and it won't start!!! I gave it some stern warnings,graphic details about fire and an axe...then went inside and read a Tintin book.I came out later and it appears to have taken heed of my advice and started.

But the Victa is a dead duck...it joins the Craftsman with the bent crank and no axles.I have every mower in my area on my TradeMe watchlist.....

So,I went for a ride today.

[avgas]

Victor and an old Ryobi. Almost as old as I and still strong

[gwigs]

Take one large sledge hammer ."This is your last chance....start you evil piece of shit.......".If it fails to start smash it into oblivion......Ah satisfaction at last..
Have several beers...:beer:

[Conquiztador]

So I took a sixpack to my neighbour and came back with his machinery designed to cut a long grass short. But needed petrol. No worries, put the 5 litre tank in the car and down to the petrol station. Or that was the simple plan.

As I put the key in the ignition the lights came on but nothing happened. After some farting around I realised that my ignition lock was broken. And as it is a Audi we are not talking about some simple fix here.

So there I was. Car dead. A houseful of neighbours grass cutters and no petrol. And six beers less in my fridge.

So only one thing to do: Leathers on, 5 litre tank in backpack and down the road with Shirley. I promised her a day of tender loving care if she took me home w/o any problems a weekend ago. I had not got there yet. So I asked her nicely to take pity on me and do what a nice girl should do.

And she delivered! After taking the long way around and also popping down to the shop for some more beers I am back with petrol, bits to temporarily fix the cars ignition lock, and a smile on my dial. Nothing like blasting away shit from ones head on a sunny day using the backroads!

I now have all I need to keep me happy until tomorrow:
- Beers
- Bits fort the Audi
- Petrol for the cutters
- A warm bike
- And a adrenalin buzz that will keep me going.

Perhaps I should just have started the day with a ride and forgotten re the rest?

[Motu]

The weedwacker has a diapgrahm carb,copied off Tillotson - same as fitted to Panhead Harley's.Given that little bit of information,I don't think you will have anymore problems with a tiny 2 stroke.

[Ixion]

I have never understood why small indisutrial engines in lawn mowers and such like must have such inordinately complex carburettors.

The Amal crab is the soul of simplicity. Fuel comes in *here*, fills *this* up, then runs through this hole *here*, the hole being made bigger or smaller by this *needle* partially blocking the hole. And this slidey *thing* partially blocks off the air flow until full throttle. And another slidey things blocks it off even more when cold, for starting. That's it. A five year old could understand it.

Easy to understand , all the bits simply removeable.

My Mikunis are not much more complex. And these simple designs serve very well for engines which are the height of human ingenuity and technological sphistication. And the engines fitted therewith will start with one easy swing of the kickstarter.

Yet a motormower, with an engine that appears to have made no progress since the earliest tinkering efforts of Herr Daimler and M. Bouton, must have a crab riddled with more holes and passages than a swiss cheese, fitted with bits, variously detachable and not, which appear to serve no purpose whatsoever and which requires to be assembled and tuned according to a cabalistic incantation made known only to selected acolytes at StoneHenge on midsummers night under the shelter of a mistletoe bush, whilst naked and daubed with woad.

And even then will not start until the pull ropey thing has been pulled so often that the would be users hands are blistered, his temper incandescent and his mental state reduced to gibbering pathos.

Why, I ask. Just , WHY.

[ducatilover]

I hate the strombergs on the bmw :shutup: Nothing like an uber simple carb. Or mechanical fuel injection, ala audi 5egt

[Motu]

The Victa carb is a perfect example of WTF? carb design.They work well if you leave them alone - don't even atempt to figure out how they work.

[Conquiztador]

The weedwacker has a diapgrahm carb,copied off Tillotson - same as fitted to Panhead Harley's.Given that little bit of information,I don't think you will have anymore problems with a tiny 2 stroke.

If Mr Bendix had a daughter who had a daughter I would marry her, as if she was something like her granddad she would be so easy to keep happy!!!

[Taz]

Not a blade of grass in my grounds. All paved, rocks or shrubbery (we are the knights who say nih nih nih).

More riding time.

W T F do the guinea pigs eat????!!!

[Pussy]

W T F do the guinea pigs eat????!!!

They don't have much of an appetite with all that tape wrapped round them.... :)

[Big Dave]

W T F do the guinea pigs eat????!!!

Dunno - I've always eaten them before they eat anything.

[Ixion]

How do they get big enough to eat if they've never eaten anything.

Guinea pig tastes quite good. But the fuss that sisters make afterward, it's not worth it. It's a good thing none of the famous scientists in history had sisters, or we'd all still be living in the Stone Age.

[duckonin]

When my 2 stokers chainsaws and hedge trimmer run badly or not at all, most times it is the litle gauze in the exhaust that is blocked, a good clean up and away they go again...

[Conquiztador]

When my 2 stokers chainsaws and hedge trimmer run badly or not at all, most times it is the litle gauze in the exhaust that is blocked, a good clean up and away they go again...

Thanks for that. More shit to dismantle.

[Crisis management]

Probably not relevant to this but...use decent 2 stroke oil; they hate outboard oil, used sump oil, cheap 2 stroke oil and they love synthetic motorcycle 2 stroke oil. Luckily they run the same ratio as the trail bike and it's always fresh!

Even more off topic, I had a couple of big privet trees to cut down here and after much bragging about macho stuff and several rounds of the lumberjack song was told to get out there and stop talking about it.
You'd think it would be easy wouldn't you, cut tree at bottom, it falls on the ground and then you cut it into little bits, right?
So, cut tree at bottom, it falls over, catches the fork of a bigger tree about half way up the trunk, pivots on the bigger tree and now I have one cut down tree half way up another tree. So, I went from a tree stuck in the ground to a tree stuck 5m up another tree, the boss is not impressed! :blink:

In comparison, your weedeater is a small problem.

[Pixie]

I have never understood why small indisutrial engines in lawn mowers and such like must have such inordinately complex carburettors.

Why, I ask. Just , WHY.

Because the carbs they use (with the exception of lawn mowers) allow the device to work at all angles

[vifferman]

I dunno what the fuss is all about. I have a Flymo, and haven't given the poor blardy beast any maintenance for the last 10 years, but it still starts first or second pull every time. Each time I mow the lawn and listen to the clattering piston, I think of the last time I bought a part for it (primer button) and what the salesman said: "You take good care of that now - they don't make them anymore!" and feel a twinge of guilt, and think, "Yeah... I must weld up the apron, solder that broken wire, sharpen the blade, clean the airfilter, buy a new sparkplug, replace that frayed pullcord...." - and put it away for another few weeks of neglect.

As for those weedeaters: they're the most temperamental and unreliable infernal combustion deviced ever invented. I've never used or onwed one that didn't need a really good feeeedlin several times during every tank of gas, just to keep it running or to get it to start. Evil fuckers...

I wonder if my VFR is part weedwacker....? :confused:

[Pedrostt500]

Its amazing how good Round up is as a lawn mower, then a couple of weeks later ring firths, and ya never have to mow the lawns again, ya also get a good burn out pad at the back door.

[ManDownUnder]

Any ideas ( apart from listing it in T/M)?

Buy another one off TM... one with a rooted piston or something? Save money on a replacement carb?

Or get that firearms of yours and let loose on it.

[inorganic]

are on a different planet to the old stuff... i have been running 5 stihl quikcuts for years ... oldest is 8 years ... only ever lost one ...gas without oil so hardly surprising... and they get used every working day

[Bass]

are on a different planet to the old stuff... i have been running 5 stihl quikcuts for years ... oldest is 8 years ... only ever lost one ...gas without oil so hardly surprising... and they get used every working day

I'll drink to that.
Stihl chainsaws - on my second one now, wore the first one out after about 25 years (firewood saw). It had no compression left and was getting gutless and so I gave it away, but so far as I know, it still (no pun intended) goes and starts easily.
Never had a carby apart.
Buggers just go.
Just do.