This incites me. Disgusting...

[Waihou Thumper]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:

[LBD]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:

its a drive way, prolly 1st gear toodlin along....keep it in proportion...

[YellowDog]

its a drive way, prolly 1st gear toodlin along....keep it in proportion...
Sort of agree, but kids do silly things (like jump off or pull the steering) and a kids head, with no helmet, on concrete can be like dropping an egg.

[oldguy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:

A good place to put this is in, Ask seller a question.... where he can see it, you may get a reply.

[Wingnut]

yip - wrap em all up in that big bubble............

[crazyhorse]

Nah - what happened to adventure and fun in life and falling out of trees. Too much bubble wrap happening.

How many of us have never taken our kids on the bike or sat them on it, or done 20 metres or so with them - I have. :innocent:

If he's on a road, then he's a dumb idiot, if a driveway, then hey, bit different. I had lawn I did it on

[nodrog]

you are fuckin kidding?

[Owl]

I would agree if he was pulling a mono or something. It just doesn't look that bad dude.:no:

[BiK3RChiK]

I agree with the OP...

I know a guy, from a standing start went to pull a wheelie in front of a crowd, dropped the bike at all of 5km/hr and banged his head on the ground (no helmet).... His pregnant wife watching and his little ones... Now, he has to be fed and wears nappies! Don't do it people!!

[NighthawkNZ]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:

we use to do the same thing when we were that age... dad took us round the back yard up the drive turn round up the steps, turn round down the steps... I got a few bumps and scraps and war wounds but they were from jumping out of trees, and playing bullrush and junglegym tag... one may have been from falling off my older brothers push bike that I couldn't reach the peddles for and tried to ride the bike... oh one may have been I fell off the motorbike... not sure

[p.dath]

its a drive way, prolly 1st gear toodlin along....keep it in proportion...

+1. Would be nice if they had a push bike helmet on or something.

[CookMySock]

Ah yeah its easy to think it won't hurt, but someone fairly close to us lept on his bike and went to take it out the driveway and straight back in again - a 30 second excursion, and mother yells "put yer fucken helmet on!" but he doesn't, and now hes a vegetable.

It's fortunate for him that he doesn't have a brain any more, as he doesn't have to face the stupidity of his actions, or the worthlessness of his fucked life, but everyone else around him does.

It's not worth it. Don't do it. Put your helmet on.

Steve

[sunhuntin]

we use to do the same thing when we were that age... dad took us round the back yard up the drive turn round up the steps, turn round down the steps... I got a few bumps and scraps and war wounds but they were from jumping out of trees, and playing bullrush and junglegym tag... one may have been from falling off my older brothers push bike that I couldn't reach the peddles for and tried to ride the bike... oh one may have been I fell off the motorbike... not sure

yep, we used to do the same. i remember my brother and i hanging on the front gate waiting for dad to come home from work. then i would sit on the tank and brother on the back and we would ride around our "massive" back yard. great fun, and one of my fondest memories. yes, brother did burn his leg on the exhaust once, but was all part of living back then. we wouldnt wear helmets when going around the yard, but we had been taught to not try and control the bike in any way. theres a photo of me at 2 years old sitting on the tank wearing one of dads helmets that was way too big. i dont think they made kid sized helmets back then.

[Hitcher]

It "incites" you? To do what, exactly?

Kiwi Biker isn't snapt.co.nz. If the ATGATT loonies want their own web site, they should go and start one.

[CookMySock]

Kiwi Biker isn't snapt.co.nz. If the ATGATT loonies want their own web site, they should go and start one.KB is what it's members (plural!) make it. It's not your call on what gets posted here. Who are you to state what gets posted and what does not?

Perhaps if the ATGATT "loonies" are not permitted, then maybe not the grammar police?

Steve

[Headbanger]

I'm outraged, why do people bike a damn fine bike and then never ride them?

[Big Dave]

Outrageous! A wheelie would have been far more interesting.

[scracha]

Somebody call Sue Bradford.


I'm more disgusted by the price. I'm sure they were $7995 new.

[Madness]

Burn him!
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[Ixion]

.. riding aroud like it is fun ..

What! Attempting to have fun ?

This is too serious for burning. This calls for ------ SUPERMISERYGIT. The masked destroyer of all fun and frivolity.

A few decades in SuperMiseryGit's secret Dungeons of Unendurable Political Correctness, and the miscreant won't even remember what fun was.

[SARGE]

bet his stupid bloody wife even cuts meat and veg on the same board...


loony bitch :rockon:

[Swoop]

2008 bike.
290km?

Does the owner have a bike-polishing fetish or something? Ride the fucking thing.

[onearmedbandit]

Won't someone think of the children!!! Oh, I see someone already has.

[wysper]

I'm outraged, why do people bike a damn fine bike and then never ride them?

whats the bet they have a "mint never been off the road" suv too?

[Murray]

Government should bring a new law

Everyone must bubble wrap themselves, stay inside, never go anywhere, while they are only eating healthy foods and drinking water only!!

Hey its dangerous leaving your house! Then again you could be home invaded so better buy one of those security boxes and live in there. But don't get tetanus scraping yourself through the bubble wrap on a sharp edge when crawling into it!!

harden up

[Hitcher]

KB is what it's members (plural!) make it. It's not your call on what gets posted here. Who are you to state what gets posted and what does not?

Perhaps if the ATGATT "loonies" are not permitted, then maybe not the grammar police?

Ooh! Raw nerve touched. Thank you for that.

[Hitcher]

Everyone must bubble wrap themselves, stay inside, never go anywhere, while they are only eating healthy foods and drinking water only!!

And as for having fun, forget that! Anybody even contemplating doing anything slightly risky should desist until there has been a binding referendum taken to give them the consent they require.

[EJK]

Wasn't DRZ400SMs were on tremendous sale during 2008? RRP of around $7500 weren't they?

[MisterD]

Government should bring a new law

Everyone must bubble wrap themselves, stay inside, never go anywhere, while they are only eating healthy foods and drinking water only!!

Hey its dangerous leaving your house! Then again you could be home invaded so better buy one of those security boxes and live in there. But don't get tetanus scraping yourself through the bubble wrap on a sharp edge when crawling into it!!

harden up

I see we've solved the mystery of who stole the Green Party's 2011 election manifesto...:sherlock:

[Taz]

I'm sorry mark. I also don't really think a slow pootle around a quiet street with the kids on the bike is a bad thing. Sure The worst could happen and I'd probably ensure that mine had a cycle helmet on least but the chances of the worst happening are very slim and life itself is one big risk, that's what makes it worth living and the reason I touch my boots down on the KTM with knobbies on :)

[Brett]

I was expecting to see some dude pulling a mono or stoppie, not that little display. Nothing wrong with that picture...C'mon as a kid I used to ride much faster than that on a BMX with no helmet.

Keep it sensible aye?

[Metalor]

Hmmmm... I can sortta see your point here. It IS slightly dangerous, kid could shift around and slip off, but then again, kid's heads are pretty soft!

I know of a guy who ran his baby's head over, IN HIS CAR, kid is alive and well today :gob:


I assure you, this isn't bullshit either. The only thing that saved the kid was the softness of it's head. Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.

[Grubber]

Oh please:gob:. I take my 3 year old grandson for big rides around a 3 acre paddock without a helmet. I take a huge amount of care doing it mind you!He will no doubt be riding faster than i in a few years and have as many broken bones as well. Let them ride i say:rockon:

[Taz]

Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.


Christ imagine that! It'd bring a whole new meaning to cutting some hot laps. And schumacher just took a stab up the inside! Ouch.

[allycatz]

And while we are at it...all those tarts in bike ads wearing just a bikini need to put some decent gear on and a helmet...does nothing to promote safety of bikers :shutup:

[ManDownUnder]

Nah - what happened to adventure and fun in life and falling out of trees. Too much bubble wrap happening.

How many of us have never taken our kids on the bike or sat them on it, or done 20 metres or so with them - I have. :innocent:

If he's on a road, then he's a dumb idiot, if a driveway, then hey, bit different. I had lawn I did it on

^^^^^

What she said. It is an issue... just not a very big one.

[NighthawkNZ]

I was expecting to see some dude pulling a mono or stoppie, not that little display. Nothing wrong with that picture...C'mon as a kid I used to ride much faster than that on a BMX with no helmet.

Keep it sensible aye?


I can work fast than that I mean hell hes got good balance and all as he hasn't moved in the last 2 hours :gob:

[98tls]

To make things even worse theres no sign of a wave either.:gob:Cant really see the problem,ok its not pc but hey.Wasnt that long ago that thousands of kids rode pushbikes every day without a helmet.

[davebullet]

I can't see the auction (at work), so am guessing there is a kid involved and the adult is role modeling that not wearing gear is ok.

When I first got my bike, I took the kids down the drive without any gear on them or myself. Pretty dumb in hindsight. Not only could 250+kgs landing on a child if we had a fall cause a fatality, but also because as my kids grow up, they may not remember the context of my actions. All they may recall is "dad took us riding without gear and we were ok".

I haven't repeated that mistake.

[Ixion]

And while we are at it...all those tarts in bike ads wearing just a bikini need to put some decent gear on and a helmet...does nothing to promote safety of bikers :shutup:

Absolutely right. It's disguuuusting. Personally, I quite agree with you they should be made to remove those bikinis immediately


Never mind. That saviour of all that is morally right, the hero of all right thinking people, SUPERGIT has the answer.

All female motorcyclists to wear full niqaab at all times. Sorted.

[Donor]

Oh noes!

A kiddy on a drive!

'tis a vegetable in the making 'tis!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...seriously, HTFU you wowsers!

[Forest]

I wish all Dads were as cool as the one in the picture.

[Trouser]

Jesus fucking christ. Don't you hippies have a whale to save or something?

Next it will be helmets on swings. You could hit your head you know.

[Matt Bleck]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:
..........

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qb7mtu.jpg

[nothingflash]

Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.

Hahaha - brilliant.

[scracha]

When I first got my bike, I took the kids down the drive without any gear on them or myself. Pretty dumb in hindsight. Not only could 250+kgs landing on a child if we had a fall cause a

It's all about managed risk. The risk of you falling off whilst pootling along the drive is next to bugger all. The risk of it killing or causing serious injury is less than bugger all. Personally it's halfwits advertising their horses by riding them without helmets on Trademe that gets my goat.



fatality, but also because as my kids grow up, they may not remember the context of my actions. All they may recall is "dad took us riding without gear and we were ok".


C'mon..if it was all about role modelling I'd be drinking 8 whisky's by lunchtime, cooking with lard, smoking 40 fags a day, have 7 kids by 4 different women and be shacked up with my asian secretary before dying in my late 30's*. Give kids a chance to at least prove they're stupid before treating them as such :innocent:

New Zealand:- You can drive at 15, shoot an automatic weapon, ride a horse without a helmet and ride a motorcycle in shorts but you're a criminal if you ride a pushbike without a helmet.


*Maybe my old boy wasn't so stupid come to think of it.

[98tls]

To be honest i wish i could remember the (apparently) many trips on old Brits when small enough to have a pair of goggles put round my head an stuffed down a Swanni.

[sunhuntin]

..........

snippy pic

boy, i remember those guys. from the gnome books yeh? the little guys with the taaaal read cone hats. i had a little set of the books, they were tiny, about 7cm tall.

[duckonin]

NZ is being fucked up by all those (minority) that want the majority to comform to their ideals, this is the real world let people get on with their eventful lives, and the rest can all go back to bed....

[Street Gerbil]

... I tried it once. After unloading the bike off the trailer and before parking it in the carport. I just could not resist. Down the street, around a cul-de-sac and back. Without a helmet or any body armor. I felt euphoric, from the wind in my face and from realization of my vulnerability too.

[Mully]

Sort of agree, but kids do silly things (like jump off or pull the steering) and a kids head, with no helmet, on concrete can be like dropping an egg.

Well, you aren't allowed to smack them anymore.......

[Laxi]

Well, you aren't allowed to smack them anymore.......

correction! you're not allowed to get caught smackn em:innocent:

[scumdog]

It "incites" you? To do what, exactly?

Kiwi Biker isn't snapt.co.nz. If the ATGATT loonies want their own web site, they should go and start one.

Damn tootin right H.

Riding pissed with no helmet while standing on the seat use to be my bag back in the '60's!:woohoo::shutup:

[kit]

Poor children these days ain't allowed to have fun anymore!!!! I loved pootling round the farm in front of dad on a bike, and kids aren't as stupid as you think they are....(pulling on the handle bars?) No Way! I knew not to do something like that.... kids learn through experence.

[Brett]

... I tried it once. After unloading the bike off the trailer and before parking it in the carport. I just could not resist. Down the street, around a cul-de-sac and back. Without a helmet or any body armor. I felt euphoric, from the wind in my face and from realization of my vulnerability too.

I was naughty once and even did a stoppie with no gear on. All be it from 30 kph on the ZXR 250!

[gatch]

Hmmmm... I can sortta see your point here. It IS slightly dangerous, kid could shift around and slip off, but then again, kid's heads are pretty soft!

I know of a guy who ran his baby's head over, IN HIS CAR, kid is alive and well today :gob:


I assure you, this isn't bullshit either. The only thing that saved the kid was the softness of it's head. Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.

Bro !

season 3 metalocalypse episode name suggestion "wheels made of knives"

[AllanB]

I sold my Puch moped in my late teens when they brought in compulsory helmet laws for mopeds. Wish I still had it - it was very cool and went bloody well after we made a expansion chamber for it :woohoo:

My kids enjoy the occasional blat up and down the drive on the back of my bike none of us wear helmets during this exercise. I probably should as it would drown out the yells of joy they shout in my ear.

Go and climb a tree or something and gain back a bit of that youthful feeling.

[98tls]

I sold my Puch moped in my late teens when they brought in compulsory helmet laws for mopeds. Wish I still had it - it was very cool and went bloody well after we made a expansion chamber for it :woohoo:

My kids enjoy the occasional blat up and down the drive on the back of my bike none of us wear helmets during this exercise. I probably should as it would drown out the yells of joy they shout in my ear.

Go and climb a tree or something and gain back a bit of that youthful feeling. Better still fall outta one then get up and laugh about it,yep nothing like being young.

[Timber020]

Lucky kid. Dad shares his passions with him. Great pic. I have more of a problem with a pic of a kid watching TV on a sunny day

[Marmoot]

I would agree if he was pulling a mono or something. It just doesn't look that bad dude.:no:

Bike = 2 wheels.
Mono = 1 wheel.

Half the wheel number, half the risk.

[Owl]

Bike = 2 wheels.
Mono = 1 wheel.

Half the wheel number, half the risk.

Marmoot logic???:laugh:

[Swoop]

New Zealand:- shoot an automatic weapon
Is that so? Details please!

[scumdog]

New Zealand:- You can shoot an automatic weapon....

Why?
You would be better off shooting a deer or something you can eat.



Or do you mean FIRE and automatic weapon? - if so I also think you mean semi-automatic. (except for a priveleged few:shutup:)

[boomer]

W
You would be better off shooting a deer or something you can eat.


Why shoot it when u can Umu it..!?

lol .. NZKTM u need to get a grip bro...

[LBD]

Why shoot it when u can Umu it..!?

lol .. NZKTM u need to get a grip bro...

In Bishkek for US$50 you get to empty 2 large magizines from an AK47 automatic at a couple of wrecks....

[boomer]

KB is what it's members (plural!) make it. It's not your call on what gets posted here. Who are you to state what gets posted and what does not?

Perhaps if the ATGATT "loonies" are not permitted, then maybe not the grammar police?

Steve



oo00000ooooh hark at her..?!

[boomer]

In Bishkek for US$50 you get to empty 2 large magizines from an AK47 automatic at a couple of wrecks....

does the AK get thrown in for free..??

[nallac]

we use to do the same thing when we were that age... dad took us round the back yard up the drive turn round up the steps, turn round down the steps... I got a few bumps and scraps and war wounds but they were from jumping out of trees, and playing bullrush and junglegym tag... one may have been from falling off my older brothers push bike that I couldn't reach the peddles for and tried to ride the bike... oh one may have been I fell off the motorbike... not sure

ya get that when ya hit ya head...


I'm outraged, why do people bike a damn fine bike and then never ride them?

me too


bet his stupid bloody wife even cuts meat and veg on the same board...




loony bitch :rockon:

oh no please don't let that be the case.


Hmmmm... I can sortta see your point here. It IS slightly dangerous, kid could shift around and slip off, but then again, kid's heads are pretty soft!

I know of a guy who ran his baby's head over, IN HIS CAR, kid is alive and well today :gob:


I assure you, this isn't bullshit either. The only thing that saved the kid was the softness of it's head. Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.

ah so you know Skidmark then.


correction! you're not allowed to get caught smackn em:innocent:

Exactly:innocent:


I was naughty once and even did a stoppie with no gear on. All be it from 30 kph on the ZXR 250!

How do you post when you're dead?

stoppie=no gear an all, so you must be dead

[scumdog]

In Bishkek for US$50 you get to empty 2 large magizines from an AK47 automatic at a couple of wrecks....

Why go all the way to Bishkek??:whistle:

[Jdogg]

The only thing that saved the kid was the softness of it's head. Oh, and maybe the fact the wheels were not made out of knives.


lol...your a funny man...:clap:

[LBD]

Why go all the way to Bishkek??:whistle:

Cause I live here.....:bash:


does the AK get thrown in for free..??

No such luck...:crybaby:

[boomer]

No such luck...:crybaby:

I'd demand a refund

[Str8 Jacket]

Fuck, when I was a kid I went along to this boys brigade thing with my bro as punishment for something that I had done. I remember stealing some lil 125 of the boys and riding it up and down a gravel road without a helmet and wearing shorts and Tshirt. I had no adult supervision and fell off a couple of times but kept on going till I ran out of petrol. Look at me now!! :devil2:

[LBD]

I'd demand a refund


Be easier to get a Scotsman to buy a round of drinks...

[StoneY]

And as for having fun, forget that! Anybody even contemplating doing anything slightly risky should desist until there has been a binding referendum taken to give them the consent they require.

Nah just disable their enjoyment like this wee gem- lol

[davereid]

For what its worth, the impact on yer head from falling off a bike at tootle-down-the-drive speed is the same as falling off yer high chair, or tripping over that carelessly discarded bourbon crate.

Thats because the acceleration due to gravity is the vector that gives your head energy when it hits the ground. The energy due to the horizontal movement of the bike is negligible.

In a motorcycle crash at high speed, the same actually applies, if your head hits the ground.

The energy associated with your horizontal movement becomes important if you hit a wall or lamp-post or another vehicle.

Thats why helmets don't really help closed head (brain) injuries very much - the deceleration of the head overcomes any ability of a helmet to assist at anything other than modest horozontal speeds, or falls from small distances.

Helmets, however, even leather and cork ones like grandad wore, are very very good at protecting you from open head injuries. But they seldom turn you into a vegetable.

The bottom line ? If you are really concerned about head and spinal injuries, wear a helmet, it wont do any harm, and it statistically reduces your chances of a brain injury by 0.35.

On the other hand, hopping on a motorcycle increased your chances of injury by 25-35 times, depending on what you read.

So really, a Volvo might be better if you really want to be safe.

[Slyer]

By and large I agree with the most of you, harden up.

But what if the kid HAD fallen and caused permanent brain injury, what would everyone be saying in this thread then? ;)

[Rodney007]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-238938197.htm

The add not only describes the bike but at the same time.....
1. No helmet
2. The child on the front....Come on ....Disgusting Mate!

Sunglasses on head. riding aroud like it is fun and no danger just for the photo...Fark me...It sucks and is dangerous...No one should touch this bike, the owner shows total disregard and safety for the little person in front! Public road and advertised on trade me for farks sake!

All to advertise a sale...This is irresponsible....:no::no::no:

you little emo wussy,:sweatdrop
maybe you should go drive cars :bash:

[Rodney007]

By and large I agree with the most of you, harden up.

But what if the kid HAD fallen and caused permanent brain injury, what would everyone be saying in this thread then? ;)

what if a meteor drops out of the sky and kills everyone.

[Slyer]

what if a meteor drops out of the sky and kills everyone.
You'd make a terrible evil god.
You need to make them suffer horribly, not just kill them all.
Sheesh.

[boomer]

Be easier to get a Scotsman to buy a round of drinks...


i'd like to know what you;re doing in a pub with a Scotsman in the first place !

[LBD]

i'd like to know what you;re doing in a pub with a Scotsman in the first place !

More puzzling is where and what pub? Its in a Muslim country and its called the "American Bar" :eek5:

[peasea]

what if a meteor drops out of the sky and kills everyone.

Therein lies the perfect world; all dead, start again. It worked for the dinosuars, right? Cataclysmic, all-engulfing disaster, no more Dino and Bam Bam.

The planet decided to 'chill out' for few thousand years, glaciers ruled the 'hood. Now the sun rules the 'hood but the politicians see this global warming thing, (a natural occourance) as a good opportunity to rape and pillage.

First up? Install a water tank, coz the good old H2O will be an expensive item very shortly. Mark my words. Got some sun? Install solar water heating. Insulate the crap outta your house and keep the doors shut in winter. Get a cuddly woman.........

[Big Dave]

I thought 'disgusting' was when Grandma slips her tongue in?

[boomer]

More puzzling is where and what pub? Its in a Muslim country and its called the "American Bar" :eek5:

in that case ask teh barman for a deal on an AK... and ignore the scotsman next time.

[b1unt3d]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/128971652534748871.jpg

[Dean]

Photo caption.
"Hey buckweet lets go get sum fried chicken an potatoes".
*crash bang*
"Oh daddy look what you gone done did".