View Full Version : noob Q. cost of maintanice
hey
i don't have a bike YET, but i am getting one
just wondering what is like the general cost of replacing parts for a CBR or NSR, (that sorta bike) compared to the cost of replaceing parts on a car
eg. for front and back brake pads, would it be cheaper than a car, to buy them? etc (just all parts compared to buyin car parts)
i know its a vague question, but i hope u get what i mean
Jantar
7th April 2005, 18:40
The parts that you are most likely to need to replace are tyres, chains, sprockets, etc.
Bike tyres are much more expensive than car tyres, and they only last a fraction of the time. Chains, sprockets, etc will need replacing at some stage, but the actual distance will depend on how well you keep them oiled and adjusted, the type of roads you ride etc.
Other items like brake pads, oil filters etc are much the same as a car.
Coyote
7th April 2005, 18:42
Replacement park lights for when you try taking them out with a pair of pliars and they break - roughly $1 each, can't remember
Reason being for taking them out was I was hopefully going to replace them with blue versions of the same bulb, but there were none like them at SuperCheap. Does anyone know where I can find them?
Coyote
7th April 2005, 18:44
Bike tyres are much more expensive than car tyres, and they only last a fraction of the time.
Fortunately, there's not as many, and it’s easier to dodge glass on a bike
Jonty
7th April 2005, 18:58
Brake discs on the otherhand for ZXR's are fricken expensive - as are brake and clutch levers (which you have to budget for at least 2 new sets living in windy wellington)
Gremlin
7th April 2005, 19:45
Bike tyres are much more expensive than car tyres, and they only last a fraction of the time.
I too, not yet owning a bike am interested. What would tyres roughly cost? (obviously not budget ones, tyres can save your life :2thumbsup )
SuperDave
7th April 2005, 20:03
I too, not yet owning a bike am interested. What would tyres roughly cost? (obviously not budget ones, tyres can save your life :2thumbsup )
Depends greatly on size and the quality of rubber compound such as stickier racing ones or harder commuting ones. I bought a set of tyres recently for the FXR, they are apparently the 2nd best set of sticky tyres for that size of tyre and they set me back $280 fitted.
Oh and these specific ones are only going to last about 5000kms :eek5:
5000km, jez, spose more sticky, quicker the run out,
thanks for that, czo i have noticed when ppl advertise bikes, there is lots of , replaced, this that this that, after like 20,000 km, a car you prob wouldnt replace anything, cepte tires
FEINT
7th April 2005, 21:31
Rear brake pads for my CBR250RR cost $50.00 .. which is more expensive than a car because there are only a pair , where a car gets 2 pairs.
I have heard spark plugs are $25.00 each! ...
Performance coilovers for car $1900 + for 4!
Ohlins rear shock for bike $2000??? for 1... :love:
Two Smoker
7th April 2005, 21:51
Rear brake pads for my CBR250RR cost $50.00 .. which is more expensive than a car because there are only a pair , where a car gets 2 pairs.
I have heard spark plugs are $25.00 each! ...
Performance coilovers for car $1900 + for 4!
Ohlins rear shock for bike $2000??? for 1... :love:
Ohlins forks.... 4 grand hehehehe
CBR would be cheaper to maintain than a NSR, NSR will need a rebuild (piston and rings, and maybe powervalves) eventually...
Tyres, ranges... Tyres for my RG (TT900's) cost about $400 but you dont get stickier... Tyres for my ZXR400, about $590 (only going to last 3 racedays roughly) and thats at discount rate... Basically for a 250 put aside $300-$450 on tyres, and they will last about 5000kms (depending on how hard you ride)
General cost isnt too bad, oil and filter for about $55 and do it every 4000kms.. Brake pads when you can (i recommend SBS which will add up to $195 including the rear brake) but they last for a while...
dont worry about the maintainence... ive spent thousands on maintainence and havnt regretted any of it, just because of the love for riding...
GNR
10th April 2005, 18:46
ok, so u reckon, if i got a cbr250rr, with about 20,000 km on it, good cond
it would last for ages?, if i didnt ring it out, regular oil changes etc
... Basically for a 250 put aside 300-$450 on tyres, and they will last about 5000kms
shit, thats heaps, lol, i replace like one tire in my car about every 10,000, lol, and thats like $45 to change, haha,. but it is a budget tire
what would a medium range tire cost? approx
Coyote
10th April 2005, 18:51
ok, so u reckon, if i got a cbr250rr, with about 20,000 km on it, good cond
it would last for ages?, if i didnt ring it out, regular oil changes etc
Reckon it would. Keep it in a garage or bedroom so it won't rust, and it should last you many years, or stay in good condition for resale
GNR
10th April 2005, 18:54
well, i would keep it in a shed, and have a simple cover if at a mates house,
is flairng plasitc or fibre glass? can u fibire glass over top
Coyote
10th April 2005, 19:04
Fairings are plastic, and can crack fairly easily (as I have found out)
Supposedly you can plastic weld. When I get it service, I'll get the dealer to do that
As for fibreglass fairings, I've done a fair bit of research. Just fairings in New Zealand sell front, sides and front guards. Have a look on here (http://www.justfairings.co.nz/Fairings.html)
http://www.justfairings.co.nz/Fairings/CBR25091.jpg
Show and Go in Australia also sell Fibreglass Fairings for the CBR: Top $230
Sides $265 each. Not sure about the tail fairings
And Motorcycle Wreckers in Australia sell Fibreglass replicas for 225 each, and 150 for shipping and insurance to send over here. Again, not sure about tail fairings. The guy said 825 all up, so I guess not
Haven't found anything on original replacements
TwoSeven
10th April 2005, 19:48
I budget about $1000 per year for each of my vehicles (excluding fuel). That works out at about $20/wk.
It includes warrent/reg/tires/chain/sprockets etc. You dont require some parts every year, but you'll find come maintenance time etc, you'll have the money saved up.
riffer
10th April 2005, 22:17
The days of a motorcycle being a cheap form of transport are gone.
However, there are things you can do to help yourself.
Don't buy a highly strung bike like an NSR250 - maintenance will be horrendous.
If you are concerned about maintenance, and don't have to go as fast as possible, do yourself a favour and buy a reasonably modern single or twin.
Learn how to adjust your chain yourself. Oil it regularly. Learn how to change your oil, and again, do it regularly. Likewise plugs, air and oil filters. These are the main things you will get serviced anyway when you put it in to the shop, and learning how to do these things can save you hundreds.
If you are mechanically inclined, buy a Haynes manual, or better yet, download a pdf off one of the myriad websites that have them. There is a thread somewhere on kiwibiker about it - search for it.
You have an internet connection obviously - do your research - look for what bikes are easy to maintain and are reliable. Find out what the weaknesses are in the bikes your are looking at (they ALL have weaknesses) and decide whether you feel confident in remedying these weaknesses.
As for tyres - yes, tyres may last 5,000 kms. But if you really don't need race tyre grip go the sport/touring option - you can get nearly 15,000 kms on some tyres - a D205 Sportmax which many people rubbish lasted me 15,000 on my last bike - a 110 HP 750cc sport bike - and it hardly ever gave me grief - so really research what you need and buy accordingly.
Basically the faster and sportier the bike the more you have to be prepared to pay in consumables.
But you don't have to win the stop light race to enjoy motorcycling. As you are still looking for a bike I would steer you away from a CBR or NSR - the fairings alone on these can be a nightmare if you drop the bike (which you will - especially if you are looking at learning to ride over winter).
Start with a naked - as I recommended on another thread the VTR250 Spada is an excellent choice - learn to ride, get really good at it and then look at something fancy.
You don't have to have a really fast bike to make people on big bikes look daft. Ask Velox - she gave me a real lesson on Rimutaka hill a couple of months back on her 250 Jade...
GNR
11th April 2005, 21:26
thanks celticon6,
i know what u are sayin about don't get a cbr/nsr, for learning reasons, but i still want one, lol,
ignorent noob i am, I have had lots of motobike experince just not on road, and im outa practice, but i'll keep the cage for winter, then sell it come spring, or when i feel confident enough to sell it on, im not lookin at being first out at lights, bike may be, but not me, until i know im ready, haha
also, for te person who posted up fibra glass flairing, i gave the wrong impressoin sorry, i mean can u fibre glass them, to fix them, if they are cracked,
thanks for the heap guys/gals !
James Deuce
11th April 2005, 21:35
also, for te person who posted up fibra glass flairing, i gave the wrong impressoin sorry, i mean can u fibre glass them, ....!
You can, but it doesn't work very well. You need to get the cracks plastic welded.
Good Sport-Touring Tyres are in the same price bracket as good sports tyres.
I would take celticno6's advice to heart. CBR's are more expensive to keep on the road than VTR's, and less expensive to fix when you crash. Get a VTR Spada and get crash bungs for the frame, front axle, and rear axle. Then low speed crashes won't mark parts of the bike where people look for crash damage, and they can mean the difference between a write off and a ride home.
zooter
11th April 2005, 21:44
Replace fork seals, new brake lever, brake mounting clamp, bar weights, front tyre, fix minor exhaust leak, change oil, new shaft drive oil, over $800
:ride: priceless
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