School Balls

[Trudes]

I saw on the news that a school in Auckland is talking of cancelling the senior school ball because the kids have planned an after ball party where they are all planning on getting a bit pissed and shock horror, might actually have FUN :gob: The best part of stupid school balls are the piss-up, oops I mean the party afterward!! What a bunch of party poopers! Teenages have been doing this for years, and most get drunk at partys most weekends anyway, so what's the big deal? I heard something about the organizers charging an entry fee to cover the cost of booze.... if that's the case, then maybe the school has a point.
Thoughts?

[sunhuntin]

i never went to any of our school formals. i did hear a rumor about a gay male friend of mine who wore a dress. by the time the teachers realised, his ticket had been accepted and he was inside the venue where they couldnt touch him. lol.

[98tls]

Another case of media boredom.

[Hitcher]

There are laws about when, where and how people should be able to consume alcohol. The legal drinking age for alcohol is currently 18. Most secondary school students are younger than that. No school should condone underage people getting liquored. Neither should any responsible parent. Particularly when the influence of alcohol puts them at risk.

What under age people do when consent is not required is another matter entirely.

[Matt Bleck]

I saw on the news that a school in Auckland is talking of cancelling the senior school ball because the kids have planned an after ball party where they are all planning on getting a bit pissed and shock horror, might actually have FUN :gob: The best part of stupid school balls are the piss-up, oops I mean the party afterward!! What a bunch of party poopers! Teenages have been doing this for years, and most get drunk at partys most weekends anyway, so what's the big deal? I heard something about the organizers charging an entry fee to cover the cost of booze.... if that's the case, then maybe the school has a point.
Thoughts?
hey, where's the "I remember when...." part? :confused:

[Trudes]

hey, where's the "I remember when...." part? :confused:

I got so stoned before, during and after my school ball that I don't really remember much of my school ball, but I'm sure I had fun as I woke up naked in my ex's bed with spew all over my ball dress. There you have it :laugh:

[98tls]

There are laws about when, where and how people should be able to consume alcohol. The legal drinking age for alcohol is currently 18. Most secondary school students are younger than that. No school should condone underage people getting liquored. Neither should any responsible parent. Particularly when the influence of alcohol puts them at risk.

What under age people do when consent is not required is another matter entirely. Possibly a case of who gives a shite about the law when it comes to alcohol, one only has to bother reading the court news on a daily basis to see that although the coppers seem to as best they can enforce the drink driving laws those responsible for handing out the punishment dont seem to give a rats arse.Monkey see monkey do possibly.

[Molly]

There are laws about when, where and how people should be able to consume alcohol. The legal drinking age for alcohol is currently 18. Most secondary school students are younger than that. No school should condone underage people getting liquored. Neither should any responsible parent. Particularly when the influence of alcohol puts them at risk.

What under age people do when consent is not required is another matter entirely.

Couldn't have put it better myself. It's also worth noting that only negative outcomes get reported and this can't but undermine all the work that takes place to build a school's good reputation.

[Fatt Max]

I got so stoned before, during and after my school ball that I don't really remember much of my school ball, but I'm sure I had fun as I woke up naked in my ex's bed with spew all over my ball dress. There you have it :laugh:

Quality fess up mate, bling awarded.....

[Trudes]

Quality fess up mate, bling awarded.....

My point exactly. Shouldn't every 16 year old girl have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory of a right of passage in her young and impressionable life as a woman? :laugh:
Come on, must be some better school ball/dance stories out there?!!

[98tls]

Never quite got to mine,on the way there a case of severe head spins required me to wind down the window and empty out:Oops:sadly my well dressed date was in the back with her window down.:innocent:Never mind eh,it all ended happily.:love:No wonder i ended up selling cars/bikes for years.

[Grahameeboy]

There are laws about when, where and how people should be able to consume alcohol. The legal drinking age for alcohol is currently 18. Most secondary school students are younger than that. No school should condone underage people getting liquored. Neither should any responsible parent. Particularly when the influence of alcohol puts them at risk.

What under age people do when consent is not required is another matter entirely.

I agree H...why do kids have to consume alcohol just to enjoy themselves...it's a ball which should be fun enough...

[Grahameeboy]

My point exactly. Shouldn't every 16 year old girl have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory of a right of passage in her young and impressionable life as a woman? :laugh:
Come on, must be some better school ball/dance stories out there?!!

Why is alcohol a "right of passage"....to what? You don't need alcohol to "have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory"

[Ragingrob]

If you went to Papakura High, Rosehill, or any similar area you may know why. In addition to the obvious being mentioned regards underage drinking, every year the riot police have to be sent out to after-balls organised by kids as all the gangs etc in the area hear about it.

Unlike the schools in town where the after-ball is in an unknown location and kids are transported straight from the ball by bus.

[98tls]

I agree H...why do kids have to consume alcohol just to enjoy themselves...it's a ball which should be fun enough...
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[Grahameeboy]

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Bring your old pictures out are we.......

[Trudes]

Why is alcohol a "right of passage"....to what? You don't need alcohol to "have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory"

I wasn't drunk. And it's called sarcasm.

[98tls]

Bring your old pictures out are we....... Yea mate,bugger howd ya guess.

[Mom]

*Disclaimer* I am not a parent of a child at Rangitoto College.


However...

I totally support the school in this stance. Shit yes, call me a party pooper, call me a wowzer if you dare. Call me a kill joy while you are at it.

The community voted this schools BOT (Board of Trustees) in, they must have supported what they stood for surely? The parents of kids attending the school ball had to sign a permission slip that clearly stated the ball tickets were sold on the agreement that there was no booze at the ball, and no after ball piss up was permitted. Parents signed to that agreement and tickets to the ball were sold. End of story you would think.

No. There was an afterball event (a really important right of passage IMO, but against the rules at this school) organised and these same parents let their kids attend. The organisers of this after ball should be ashamed of themselves as should the parents that allowed their kids to attend it.

How can you be seen to set a "good" example to your kids if you show them that you are prepared to sign an agreement that you have no intention of keeping, and proving that even if there are rules you can break them and that is all ok?

Personally I would have been attending PTA meetings and talking about how positive it can be for kids to have that after ball piss/spew up, offering my support to keep it safe. There is no way I would have signed a slip to say, I agreed to the terms laid out ie, there was no afterball, in the full and certain knowledge there was, and allow my son or daughter to attend.
My kids would not have gone to the ball Cinderella. I most likely would have removed them from the school long before being placed in that position to be frank.

You reap what you sow folks. Vote in conservatives you get conservatives. Teach your kids to be dishonest and guess what you get?

[Grahameeboy]

I wasn't drunk. And it's called sarcasim.

That's not even close to sarcasm silly...

[Grahameeboy]

Yea mate,bugger howd ya guess.

...tell you later............

[FJRider]

There are laws about when, where and how people should be able to consume alcohol. The legal drinking age for alcohol is currently 18. Most secondary school students are younger than that. No school should condone underage people getting liquored. Neither should any responsible parent. Particularly when the influence of alcohol puts them at risk.

What under age people do when consent is not required is another matter entirely.

As I recall ... the legal age for buying alchohol is 18 ... if supplied by a parent or legal guardian, that age limit does not apply.

[Grahameeboy]

*Disclaimer* I am not a parent of a child at Rangitoto College.


However...

I totally support the school in this stance. Shit yes, call me a party pooper, call me a wowzer if you dare. Call me a kill joy while you are at it.

The community voted this schools BOT (Board of Trustees) in, they must have supported what they stood for surely? The parents of kids attending the school ball had to sign a permission slip that clearly stated the ball tickets were sold on the agreement that there was no booze at the ball, and no after ball piss up was permitted. Parents signed to that agreement and tickets to the ball were sold. End of story you would think.

No. There was an afterball event (a really important right of passage IMO, but against the rules at this school) organised and these same parents let their kids attend. The organisers of this after ball should be ashamed of themselves as should the parents that allowed their kids to attend it.

How can you be seen to set a "good" example to your kids if you show them that you are prepared to sign an agreement that you have no intention of keeping, and proving that even if there are rules you can break them and that is all ok?

Personally I would have been attending PTA meetings and talking about how positive it can be for kids to have that after ball piss/spew up, offering my support to keep it safe. There is no way I would have signed a slip to say, I agreed to the terms laid out ie, there was no afterball, in the full and certain knowledge there was, and allow my son or daughter to attend.
My kids would not have gone to the ball Cinderella. I most likely would have removed them from the school long before being placed in that position to be frank.

You reap what you sow folks. Vote in conservatives you get conservatives. Teach your kids to be dishonest and guess what you get?

+1...........I used to take school groups on skiing trips in Europe....I am pretty sure the parents allowed their kids to drink at 14 / 15..but we knew we could not cause if we did the parents would have been onto us.

It's just NZ parents thinking they know best again...

[SixPackBack]

What the fuck is wrong with our society??...........Getting pissed/stoned, spewing and shagging at your school ball should be fooken MANDATORY:yes:
Party poopers need a Viagra and tequila infusion-kick start the soul and get the juices flowing.

[Mom]

What the fuck is wrong with our society??...........Getting pissed/stoned, spewing and shagging at your school ball should be fooken MANDATORY:yes:
Party poopers need a Viagra and tequila infusion-kick start the soul and get the juices flowing.

How many of those kind of balls did your daughter attend SPB?

[Headbanger]

Obviously those kids need the bash.....as administered as part of good parenting.

[SixPackBack]

How many of those kind of balls did your daughter attend SPB?

2 grandma:yes:.................I met your daughter, bet she went to a couple herself.

[Mom]

As I recall ... the legal age for buying alchohol is 18 ... if supplied by a parent or legal guardian, that age limit does not apply.

If in fact it is a parent/legal guardian that gives it to them. Handing $20 to one of your mates so that there is some beer there for you to drink does not count. As a parent I would be and have in fact been seriously pissed off with people providing booze to my kids. I am about 2 months away from never having to buy booze for an underage child of mine ever again. I have done it. I drink, it is normal behaviour and my kids hopefully have learned that.

Another adult (now we have to count 18 year olds in that statistic as they can buy it) that provides any child of mine booze will feel the sharp edge of my tongue. My kids have for the most part been honest with me, and I have bought them a few beers for those really important after ball type events.

Honestly is what it is all about.

[FJRider]

Teach your kids to be dishonest and guess what you get?

Kids that choose which rules and laws they want to ignore when it is convenient for them... of feel those rules and laws do not, or should not, apply to them.

[Trudes]

Well this has all got a bit serial. I was always honest with my folks as to what I was doing, and as such they trusted me. If I wanted booze, I asked and they would purchase it for me (with my money) and in return I would tell them where I was going to be etc. It's about give and take. I had friends whose folks forbid them to come partying with us and drink etc and they were always the ones who would sneak out and get so slaughtered that we'd end up taking them home, dumping them on their doorstep and ringing the doorbell until their mummy came to take them inside. I was given trust and freedom and as such made sure I didn't fuck that up and kept out of trouble. Tell a teenager they can't do something and they will only go do it 10 times harder.

[FJRider]

If in fact it is a parent/legal guardian that gives it to them. Handing $20 to one of your mates so that there is some beer there for you to drink does not count. As a parent I would be and have in fact been seriously pissed off with people providing booze to my kids. I am about 2 months away from never having to buy booze for an underage child of mine ever again. I have done it. I drink, it is normal behaviour and my kids hopefully have learned that.

Another adult (now we have to count 18 year olds in that statistic as they can buy it) that provides any child of mine booze will feel the sharp edge of my tongue. My kids have for the most part been honest with me, and I have bought them a few beers for those really important after ball type events.

A parent or guardian can supply booze to their kids ... any other kids they "supply" booze too, means they are supplying alchohol to minors. Which is in breach of the law.

"Supplying" should always be with "supervision" .... of said underage person. A part often(usually) lacking...

[98tls]

Well this has all got a bit serial. I was always honest with my folks as to what I was doing, and as such they trusted me. If I wanted booze, I asked and they would purchase it for me (with my money) and in return I would tell them where I was going to be etc. It's about give and take. I had friends whose folks forbid them to come partying with us and drink etc and they were always the ones who would sneak out and get so slaughtered that we'd end up taking them home, dumping them on their doorstep and ringing the doorbell until their mummy came to take them inside. I was given trust and freedom and as such made sure I didn't fuck that up and kept out of trouble. Tell a teenager they can't do something and they will only go do it 10 times harder. Yep,imposing boundries rather than showing the lay of the land often ends in tears.

[oldguy]

I saw on the news that a school in Auckland is talking of cancelling the senior school ball because the kids have planned an after ball party where they are all planning on getting a bit pissed and shock horror, might actually have FUN :gob: The best part of stupid school balls are the piss-up, oops I mean the party afterward!! What a bunch of party poopers! Teenages have been doing this for years, and most get drunk at partys most weekends anyway, so what's the big deal? I heard something about the organizers charging an entry fee to cover the cost of booze.... if that's the case, then maybe the school has a point.
Thoughts?

Teenagers have been doing this for years, Doesn't make it right though, things have change since you or I went to school, smoking the o'l weed was the only drug around, and beer or couple of bottles of rum. and no where near the crowds that turn up now, it may all start with good intentions, with the advent of mobile phones it just take one person to text a friend and they text and so on.


If the students want to have a pissup then have a pissup, but don't use a School Ball for an excuse, it drags the school into it when the school has nothing to do with. If you have kids that have gone to there school ball, I bet all they were talking about was the after ball. (mine did) i hated it, but didn't stop them, had some sleepless nights, my youngest chose not to go to her one this year,
The cops have more important things do than having to go to some after Ball function, that has gone wrong

Good on that school,

God I ramble on don't I

John

[_Shrek_]

I got so stoned before, during and after my school ball that I don't really remember much of my school ball, but I'm sure I had fun as I woke up naked in my ex's bed with spew all over my ball dress. There you have it :laugh:

exactly why I wouldn't let my girls go to the after party & all but one of them & the rest are in their 20's or early 30's & they didn't have a problem then or now
quite frankly 16yo don't need to get shit faced & end up.... they got the rest of their lives to do that when they leave home

[Nagash]

From a younger members perspective.. I left school a couple of years and attended both balls and afterballs.

I went to Avondale college if makes any difference...


Essentially the set up goes as such, a group of last year students are chosen to organise the venue and purchase all the booze and set up bus's directly from the ball to the afterball, all without any officials within the school knowing. All very hush hush but there was no doubt all the teachers knew...

Tickets cost around $30 each to cover as much alcohol as you could handle and the bus fairs and venue etc. (all in all a pretty good deal, cept the choice of alcohol was always shit)

Yes they're all mostly underage, yes there's drinking, dancing, shagging, illicit substance abuse, and the cops almost always show up to break up the party.

It's dangerous, illegal, secretive, but god damn is it a lot of fun. The fact that someone blabbed to that principal means they deserve to have it shut down...

And it's only the 'next' ball they're missing out on. It ain't permanent.

[Grahameeboy]

What the fuck is wrong with our society??...........Getting pissed/stoned, spewing and shagging at your school ball should be fooken MANDATORY:yes:
Party poopers need a Viagra and tequila infusion-kick start the soul and get the juices flowing.

Bugger..and I thought that I was having fun and shagging sober....geeze I really missed out on having some real fun..

[Grahameeboy]

Teenagers have been doing this for years, Doesn't make it right though, things have change since you or I went to school, smoking the o'l weed was the only drug around, and beer or couple of bottles of rum. and no where near the crowds that turn up now, it may all start with good intentions, with the advent of mobile phones it just take one person to text a friend and they text and so on.


If the students want to have a pissup then have a pissup, but don't use a School Ball for an excuse, it drags the school into it when the school has nothing to do with. If you have kids that have gone to there school ball, I bet all they were talking about was the after ball. (mine did) i hated it, but didn't stop them, had some sleepless nights, my youngest chose not to go to her one this year,
The cops have more important things do than having to go to some after Ball function, that has gone wrong

Good on that school,

God I ramble on don't I

John

A great ramble John.....that's the problem with mobile phones as texting is a sure way of inviting trouble

[Trudes]

Bugger..and I thought that I was having fun and shagging sober....geeze I really missed out on having some real fun..

It's just as good, just a lot quicker as it cuts out the bullshit (or "seduction" or "foreplay" some may call it, personally I prefer to just shag) so would definitely recommend getting pissed first.

[jaymzw]

After balls weren't allowed at my ball this year, nor were they allowed at any other schools that my mates attend.

However when deputy principals turn up with boxes of Heineken themselves i think that 'no afterballs' was just the party line LMAO

[Grahameeboy]

It's just as good, just a lot quicker as it cuts out the bullshit (or "seduction" or "foreplay" some may call it, personally I prefer to just shag) so would definitely recommend getting pissed first.

Is that sarcasm again?....

[Trudes]

Is that sarcasm again?....

It could be, but I'm not sure you understand the concept.

[Grahameeboy]

It could be, but I'm not sure you understand the concept.

Sarcasm is a Londoners second language...your concept is yours:shit:

[Trudes]

Sarcasm is a Londoners second language...your concept is yours:shit:

Can you make me a cup of tea please.

[98tls]

It could be, but I'm not sure you understand the concept. :killingme:killingme:Oops:xcuse this Trudes but reminded me of brief moment from loooong ago,Q''how much longer'' A"nottt loonnng''.:Oops:

[Grahameeboy]

Can you make me a cup of tea please.


Here ya go love..did know which was your favourite so gave you a choice

[Trudes]

Lovely ol' chap, I'll have the one in the white cup. ;)

[Dean]

Afterballs can get out of hand, I attended two afterballs and many after parties of schools on the north shore. And honestly they get out of hand really bad, because most of the teens cant hold their liquor and some have criminal connections. Fore instance my group of mates had knives pulled out on us, gangs outnumbering my mates *2 wanting to fight pitch dark in a reserve park. The ones who walked alone got bashed, countless people down for assault. Now If the parents actually knew this goes on then I bet most would not let their teens go to afterballs, If per ce one of my mates had got stabbed If we decided to fight the gangs then it would be over the news.

[Hitcher]

If per ce one of my mates had got stabbed If we decided to fight the gangs then it would be over the news.

If percy got stabbed I thought you would have other more pressing concerns than being on the news.

[98tls]

Afterballs can get out of hand, I attended two afterballs and many after parties of schools on the north shore. And honestly they get out of hand really bad, because most of the teens cant hold their liquor and some have criminal connections. Fore instance my group of mates had knives pulled out on us, gangs outnumbering my mates *2 wanting to fight pitch dark in a reserve park. The ones who walked alone got bashed, countless people down for assault. Now If the parents actually knew this goes on then I bet most would not let their teens go to afterballs, If per ce one of my mates had got stabbed If we decided to fight the gangs then it would be over the news. Percy needs to realise that whatever he does in his life more than likely its been done many times before by many, years before.Percys problem is that he refuses to listen.

[Dean]

If percy got stabbed I thought you would have other more pressing concerns than being on the news.

I meant per-ce as in example not the name percy. Yes I would have concerns for one of my mates health and support him however, but it would also paint a bad picture on the school. So the school in defense to save their reputation would ban the afterballs which would affect all year 12 and 13 students, think of this like squid motorcyclists painting a general bad image on bikers to the general public due to the squids antics.

[gatch]

At one ball after party I fingered a girl on the dance floor then got so drunk I fell over outside my mates house and when i woke up there was frost on my clothes..

At the same party 2 of my friends were trying to woo this girl, one of them went so far as to press his boner into her hand..

Yeah, we were all class.

[98tls]

I meant per-ce as in example not the name percy. Yes I would have concerns for one of my mates health and support him however, but it would also paint a bad picture on the school. So the school in defense to save their reputation would ban the afterballs which would affect all year 12 and 13 students, think of this like squid motorcyclists painting a general bad image on bikers to the general public due to the squids antics. I hear ya,get this guy:gob:No intention of waving at all:angry:Squid:angry:

[Dean]

I hear ya,get this guy:gob:No intention of waving at all:angry:Squid:angry:

I see, I wear Kelvar Jeans and workboots does that make me a squid?
Anyways pretty much to all fathers on kb trust me the kids may promise to be fine but please make sure they have a weapon for protection or know self defense. Dodgy people try to snatch girls walking home from afterballs no matter how many freinds the girls claim to be walking home with, and any guy alone or in a group is a target at an afterball because teens on the booze get adrenalin bursts and want to fight anything that moves around them.

[merv]

My point exactly. Shouldn't every 16 year old girl have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory of a right of passage in her young and impressionable life as a woman? :laugh:
Come on, must be some better school ball/dance stories out there?!!

Haha, and you said in your earlier post "I don't really remember much of my school ball" - so much for wonderful memories huh!

[Trudes]

At one ball after party I fingered a girl on the dance floor then got so drunk I fell over outside my mates house and when i woke up there was frost on my clothes..

At the same party 2 of my friends were trying to woo this girl, one of them went so far as to press his boner into her hand..

Yeah, we were all class.
That's more like it! A funny story about the school ball! Surely some people had fun eh!
Geeze I'm glad I grew up in small town NZ where every bugger knew every other bugger and you were safe getting pissed and falling asleep on the footpath on your way home.


Haha, and you said in your earlier post "I don't really remember much of my school ball" - so much for wonderful memories
huh!
I remember washing someone elses puke out of my ball dress and I remember being told some of our antics of the night before.... That was enough for me actually :laugh:

[PrincessBandit]

Listening to the radio (gosh, now there's an old fashioned concept for you) this morning the announcers were talking about "kids are going to do it anyway so don't be such a party pooper".

That could be said about a number of things. My take on that mentality is that you may as well not have any guidelines, high expectations, or standards for your children. It probably is hard especially for kids who want to attend the after balls but whose parents are concerned enough that they are not allowed to go. Quick, smack me now for suggesting that a parent might use the dread "N" word ("no" for anyone of you who hadn't guessed it) to little Johnny/Jenny.

Hopefully kids have a long number of years ahead of them to get laid, pissed, stoned (all the "wonderfully exciting" things us adults get to do) and it seems a foreign concept to make them have to wait for any of that.

What kind of message are we giving them by encouraging them to throw themselves into these things headlong as such a young age? Do everything you possibly can now because the world might blow up tomorrow/you might die tomorrow/everyone else is so join the queue of lemmings? A bit of a sad indictment.

Oh, what am I thinking??????!!!!!! "Everyone"'s been doing it since, "forever", how can it possibly not be ok? Us lone voices against the tide are obviously just fun nazis.....

[James Deuce]

I don't like teenagers. Never have. Even when I was one.

Fuck 'em. Make life as miserable as possible. Least we don't send them to the Trenches at 17 and a quarter any more.

[James Deuce]

If percy got stabbed I thought you would have other more pressing concerns than being on the news.

I'm pretty certain the whole point of Percy and the Knife is to get on the news.

[yungatart]

The school I work at has banned big organised after balls for years. The threat that the ball would be cancelled if an afterball was organised has been an effective deterrent....although small gatherings at someone's home has always been allowed.
The students are breath tested upon entry to the ball, and some end up being collected early by parents because of excessive alcohol consumption.
This year the BOT organised an after ball, with alcohol (4 drinks max), adult supervision etc in a secret location...it was cancelled due to lack of interest!

[MikeL]

So the wowsers and the fun-nazis want to stop school-kids drinking and shagging and fighting and doing drugs and whatever else teenagers need to do to show that they are really grown-ups and shouldn't be treated like stupid immature babies. Don't these people realise that the school ball (or more correctly, the after-ball function) is the only reason most kids stay at school for the 7th form year? And if the only thing that schools can provide is boring classes and meaningless rules there won't be any students left in the senior school, and what are we going to do with all those unemployed teachers?? So school balls must continue, for the greater good of the economy...

[Stirts]

Once again let us reduce the ability for the yoof of today about respect for risk and consequences! And stunt their ability to test and know their boundaries!

Because yet again, we change the rules to suit the lowest common denominator!!

[Trudes]

Once again let us reduce the ability for the yoof of today about respect for risk and consequences! And stunt their ability to test and know their boundaries!

Because yet again, we change the rules to suit the lowest common denominator!!

Exactly! Give them enough rope and see what they do, they may tie a knot... or they may hang themselves, either way hopefully they've learned something for themselves. ;)

[The Pastor]

nah school balls are expensive and gay

[rachprice]

At one ball after party I fingered a girl on the dance floor then got so drunk I fell over outside my mates house and when i woke up there was frost on my clothes..

At the same party 2 of my friends were trying to woo this girl, one of them went so far as to press his boner into her hand..

Yeah, we were all class.

haahhaha I think I have a photo from that night :laugh:
Even that girl!

[Stirts]

haahhaha I think I have a photo from that night :laugh:
Even that girl!

Share with the group!

[Sidewinder]

I saw on the news that a school in Auckland is talking of cancelling the senior school ball because the kids have planned an after ball party where they are all planning on getting a bit pissed and shock horror, might actually have FUN :gob: The best part of stupid school balls are the piss-up, oops I mean the party afterward!! What a bunch of party poopers! Teenages have been doing this for years, and most get drunk at partys most weekends anyway, so what's the big deal? I heard something about the organizers charging an entry fee to cover the cost of booze.... if that's the case, then maybe the school has a point.
Thoughts?

yeah and everyone wounders why kids are growen up and being so bad, they wana have fun but no one will let them:wari::wari::wari::wari::wari:

[rachprice]

Share with the group!

have to wait till i get home but I will ahaha

[Emore]

The alcohol dealers in NZ (the "entertainment" industry) sure have done a number on our society. They have trained us up from a young age to think that you can't have fun unless you are out on the town consuming their products.

Owners of alcohol import and manufacture and distribution companies are some of the richest people in NZ.

Your young children will be going to serve these people as well.

[Stirts]

have to wait till i get home but I will ahaha

:woohoo: :wait::wait:

I used to manage a Kodak Express store and I loved the School Ball season, such farken larfs we had looking at all the dodgy photos!!!

My voyeuristic tendencies need to be satisfied!

[Stirts]

The alcohol dealers in NZ (the "entertainment" industry) sure have done a number on our society. They have trained us up from a young age to think that you can't have fun unless you are out on the town consuming their products.

Owners of alcohol import and manufacture and distribution companies are some of the richest people in NZ.

Your young children will be going to serve these people as well.

Once again, let us blame someone else for the way our kids act! Do you not think that parental guidance and the like do not enter into this equation at all?

That is one very sweeping generalisation you have made. What I class as fun may not nessecarily be fun for you.

I had a lot of friends when I was young who hated the taste of alcohol but still managed to have shitloads of fun when out socialising. Granted, some people needed a drink to relax and let their hair down, and some had more serious issuses like alcoholism.

And then there are some that had other vices..... drugs, food, sex!

We should be providing them with more knowledge, guidance and role models, and then let them learn for themselves. Get them to take responsibility for their actions and the consequences following those actions.

Some people need to stop blaming alcohol, drugs, takeaway outlets for the way we act/live/are and take some farken responsibility for their own actions!

[imdying]

I was always honest with my folks as to what I was doing, and as such they trusted me. If I wanted booze, I asked and they would purchase it for me (with my money) and in return I would tell them where I was going to be etc. It's about give and take. I had friends whose folks forbid them to come partying with us and drink etc and they were always the ones who would sneak out and get so slaughtered that we'd end up taking them home, dumping them on their doorstep and ringing the doorbell until their mummy came to take them inside. I was given trust and freedom and as such made sure I didn't fuck that up and kept out of trouble. Tell a teenager they can't do something and they will only go do it 10 times harder.Damn right. Worked for me too. They let me make my own mistakes... and I made them alright, but learnt things I'd likely not have learnt any other way.

[Grubber]

*Disclaimer* I am not a parent of a child at Rangitoto College.


However...

I totally support the school in this stance. Shit yes, call me a party pooper, call me a wowzer if you dare. Call me a kill joy while you are at it.

The community voted this schools BOT (Board of Trustees) in, they must have supported what they stood for surely? The parents of kids attending the school ball had to sign a permission slip that clearly stated the ball tickets were sold on the agreement that there was no booze at the ball, and no after ball piss up was permitted. Parents signed to that agreement and tickets to the ball were sold. End of story you would think.

No. There was an afterball event (a really important right of passage IMO, but against the rules at this school) organised and these same parents let their kids attend. The organisers of this after ball should be ashamed of themselves as should the parents that allowed their kids to attend it.

How can you be seen to set a "good" example to your kids if you show them that you are prepared to sign an agreement that you have no intention of keeping, and proving that even if there are rules you can break them and that is all ok?

Personally I would have been attending PTA meetings and talking about how positive it can be for kids to have that after ball piss/spew up, offering my support to keep it safe. There is no way I would have signed a slip to say, I agreed to the terms laid out ie, there was no afterball, in the full and certain knowledge there was, and allow my son or daughter to attend.
My kids would not have gone to the ball Cinderella. I most likely would have removed them from the school long before being placed in that position to be frank.

You reap what you sow folks. Vote in conservatives you get conservatives. Teach your kids to be dishonest and guess what you get?

So let me get this right. You would rather remove your kids from this school so as to allow them to get nuked rotton at another school that would condone 14 and 15 year olds drinking. Oooo you make a lovely Mum???????:bash:

[Emore]

Once again, let us blame someone else for the way our kids act! Do you not think that parental guidance and the like do not enter into this equation at all?

They grew up the same way too. It is socially acceptable and considered normal behaviour in NZ.

And some of this countrie's richest people are in the liquor industry.

Like that millionaire that crashed his helicopter a couple of years ago...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/waikato/news/article.cfm?l_id=149&objectid=10356108

I have worked for one of Otago's richest families that's wealth is from the liquor industry also.

These people have spent a lot of time and money getting this society trained up like good little sheep to behave as they are told.

[Stirts]

It is socially acceptable and considered normal behaviour in NZ.

I will agree with that ..... to some extent.


Like that millionaire that crashed his helicopter a couple of years ago...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/waikato/news/article.cfm?l_id=149&objectid=10356108

linky brokded :(


I have worked for one of Otago's richest families that's wealth is from the liquor industry also.

Sweet do you get perks? Fridge full of Speights every week?

[Nagash]

So, we've blamed the kids, the parents, the school, and now the alcohol industry in general.

Why do we have to blame anyone at all?

In every school some kids plan an afterball, if there wasn't going to be a 'school wide' afterball that it'll just be held in smaller house parties. It's going to happen regardless, school kids like to drink. Not all of them, and those kids aren't exactly forced to. It's an oppourtunity to experiment and see how you like it, great in my opinion. I knew a few school kids who could really do with a drink at school as an excuse to just free themselves up a bit.

The parents were raising their kids how they wanted to. They considered it okay for their kid to drink and that's their right. Hence the law about parents being allowed to buy their kids alcohol... A parent may raise their kid any way they want, just because another person disagrees with this doesn't mean they're wrong.

The school did what they were forced to do, punish the students for breaking the rules. No surprise there. They do have the government looking over their shoulders..

The alcohol industry is trying to make money. Any way they can, like any other hugely successful businesses. Fast food franchises kill you, cigarettes kill you, gambling ruins your life, but it's all about personal responsibility on that one. No one can say without a doubt that they advertise to underage drinkers, but with those RTD drinks etc. you'd think otherwise..

I think everyone was just being themselves, and the situation broke out like it does at every school, every year. And will do for a long time to come.

[slofox]

And some of this countrie's richest people are in the liquor industry.



And some of the friggin' poorest too...(he says from the confines of his empty wine shop...)

[Trudes]

So, we've blamed the kids, the parents, the school, and now the alcohol industry in general.

Why do we have to blame anyone at all?

In every school some kids plan an afterball, if there wasn't going to be a 'school wide' afterball that it'll just be held in smaller house parties. It's going to happen regardless, school kids like to drink. Not all of them, and those kids aren't exactly forced to. It's an oppourtunity to experiment and see how you like it, great in my opinion. I knew a few school kids who could really do with a drink at school as an excuse to just free themselves up a bit.

The parents were raising their kids how they wanted to. They considered it okay for their kid to drink and that's their right. Hence the law about parents being allowed to buy their kids alcohol... A parent may raise their kid any way they want, just because another person disagrees with this doesn't mean they're wrong.

The school did what they were forced to do, punish the students for breaking the rules. No surprise there. They do have the government looking over their shoulders..

The alcohol industry is trying to make money. Any way they can, like any other hugely successful businesses. Fast food franchises kill you, cigarettes kill you, gambling ruins your life, but it's all about personal responsibility on that one. No one can say without a doubt that they advertise to underage drinkers, but with those RTD drinks etc. you'd think otherwise..

I think everyone was just being themselves, and the situation broke out like it does at every school, every year. And will do for a long time to come.

Absobloodylutely!!! (I'm outta bling, so will spot you later for that).

[Swoop]

Where will the future alcoholics come from???

Won't someone think of the alcoholics!


I used to manage a Kodak Express store and I loved the School Ball season, such farken larfs we had looking at all the dodgy photos!!!

My voyeuristic tendencies need to be satisfied!
The digital age has a LOT to answer for...:woohoo:

[Stirts]

The digital age has a LOT to answer for...:woohoo:

Farken oath it does ..... both good :shifty: and bad :sick:

[MIXONE]

We didn't go to the school ball but had a party instead.Must have been a good one because just like the 60's I can't remember it.

[MikeL]

The parents were raising their kids how they wanted to. They considered it okay for their kid to drink and that's their right.

Exactly. What right has the state to interfere with a parent's choice to bring up his/her kids in any way they think fit? If I supply my teenage sons with booze, cigarettes and drugs because I can't see any real harm in these things (they haven't killed me yet), that's my business. I'm taking responsibility, not kowtowing to a government that tells me what I can and can't do.
BTW my youngest boy, aged 11, is a trained and skilled chimney sweep. Will hire him out to anybody needing a cheap and cheerful job...

[Stirts]

BTW my youngest boy, aged 11, is a trained and skilled chimney sweep. Will hire him out to anybody needing a cheap and cheerful job...

How much you charge out Sooty per hour?

[Mom]

Oooo you make a lovely Mum???????:bash:

Thank you! I actually think I have done a really good job of raising my 3 kids to the stage they are at in their lives. My eldest daughter is currently teaching Japanese and English to year 13, my son has just applied to join the Police and my youngest has attended the last school ball I will ever have to live through, and for that I am thankful.

What I actually said, if you go and read my post properly is that the parents of the kids that knowingly signed a permission slip for their kids to attend a ball on the condition there was no after ball function, and then went right ahead and let their kids attend a completely against the rules party are not setting a very good example to their offspring.

I also said that my kids would not have attended the ball if they were planning to attend the after ball. I simply would not have given my permission for them to buy a ticket to go. End of story! I actually have a bit of a reputation for being a fairly tough Mom, and as my kids get older they actually thank me for it.

I am not sure what area you live in, but up here you have to be in year 12 before there is a school ball. I am not talking about the socials that happen throught the year, I am talking the annual school ball - which is traditionally followed by an after ball function. In year 12 you would be 15 and closer to 16, at the youngest to attend.

Your post suggests I condone 14 and 15 year olds "to get nuked rotton" (sic). I need to let you know that I most certainly do not condone 14 and 15 year olds boozing at all! Neither do schools!

Any after ball function that my kids have attended has been well organised, well supervised and there has never been a problem, that is because the kids know any problems and it wont be allowed again.

I never went to a school ball as a kid, it was not my thing. My kids have all wanted to attend and I have allowed and encouraged and paid (oh how I have paid) for them to attend. I also have no problem with a well supervised after ball nor with my kids drinking under supervision, in fact I am almost to the point that I will have no say in that any more thanks to the lowered drinking age. I have raised my kids to have a healthy attitude to booze, they seem to be doing ok so far.

Be careful making broad sweeping posts like the one you did.

[Fatt Max]

Personally, I wouldnt mind my balls being held after anything.......oops, wrong thread, sorry....!

[ready4whatever]

I got trollyed at my afterball. Turned my white suit green from rolling on the grass

[Insanity_rules]

hey, where's the "I remember when...." part? :confused:

I remember when we used to drink in the carpark at the ball and throw up all over the place, ah the memories.


Personally, I wouldnt mind my balls being held after anything.......oops, wrong thread, sorry....!

I seem to remember getting mine held after the ball by my date LOL.

[ynot slow]

Funny thing my kids have been there done that.Older daughter enjoys a drink as uni students do,and enjoys a tipple or ten.Younger daughter had a drink doesn't drink (obviously got hungover and learnt lol)went to her ball this year and had one wine.Kids are all different,not all want to get pissed,most do,some don't depends on what sells papers.

[scumdog]

My point exactly. Shouldn't every 16 year old girl have the opportunity to have such a wonderful memory of a right of passage in her young and impressionable life as a woman? :laugh:
Come on, must be some better school ball/dance stories out there?!!

I've got one about the sheila that was raped and got the pox that night.

She's not sure who it was due to being pissed and stoned - is that the makings of a better school ball/dance story?

[scumdog]

The alcohol dealers in NZ (the "entertainment" industry) sure have done a number on our society. They have trained us up from a young age to think that you can't have fun unless you are out on the town consuming their products.

Owners of alcohol import and manufacture and distribution companies are some of the richest people in NZ.

Your young children will be going to serve these people as well.

Ain't THAT the truth!!!

[oldguy]

like you lot don't know shit, How the f**k do you know it was a good after ball party, if you were so stoned and pissed you don't remember any of it, idiots.
I can still see the look in her eyes, and the tears, why because I didn't give a F**k its was suppose to be our night, in stead when your young, getting piss/stoned, and other girls.
At times I wonder what ever happened to her, always hoping things have turned out good for her in life.
The memory I have, well sometimes when I close my eyes at night I can see her tear fill eyes, some people call it Karma.
I didn't want my girls ever getting treated like that, or my son treating any girl that way.

[Trudes]

I've got one about the sheila that was raped and got the pox that night.

She's not sure who it was due to being pissed and stoned - is that the makings of a better school ball/dance story?

I've got another, about how a whole lot of people that have their undies so tightly bunched up their arses that they no longer recognise sarcasm or irony. :rolleyes:
To be honest I don't really give a shit if the kids get their ball or after-ball or whether the safety Nazis get their way and the kids sit home and play their Xbox and annoy old folks on the internet. I was just interested in people's views and if anyone had any funny ball stories, sheesh.

[Shadows]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iB34tVsbBw