Hampton Downs hire bikes

[DELLORTO]

When hampton downs open {if it ever does at the snail pace it going} they've got hire bike to rider aroind the race track, gxr600's does anyone know if you need a bike licence to take them out?? im keen but im only 14 and dont get my licence until a few months~! ive got a full mnz competition licence.

Also took my bike in to get painted yesterday and the guy doing my bike is also doing all the bikes for hampton downs, the paint jobs for them are apparently $5k each !!! :shit:

thanks -max

[hmurphy]

They are dangerous to ride. In a lot of ways easy (comfortable etc) but in some ways not very safe.

If you want to get on a bigger bike, when you get your restricted apply for an exemption so you can sit your full licence straight after passing the restricted. If you have done a sufficient amount of racing etc., they may accept your exemption form. I know because I tried. Either that or get one anyway and try not to be a hooligan dumbass... but that doesn't work out so well.

[DELLORTO]

They are dangerous to ride. In a lot of ways easy (comfortable etc) but in some ways not very safe.

If you want to get on a bigger bike, when you get your restricted apply for an exemption so you can sit your full licence straight after passing the restricted. If you have done a sufficient amount of racing etc., they may accept your exemption form. I know because I tried. Either that or get one anyway and try not to be a hooligan dumbass... but that doesn't work out so well.

yer im going to start of on a scooter :sick: for some dumb reason, but i dont want to pretend im on the race track {which of course i would} and get myself killed.

cant afford to buy a flash road bike ive spend way too much on my fxr

[Matt Bleck]

I'm pretty sure you need a full licence

[Wingnut]

Also took my bike in to get painted yesterday and the guy doing my bike is also doing all the bikes for hampton downs, the paint jobs for them are apparently $5k each !!! :shit:

thanks -max

Cant help but think someone is talking that up abit. $5k for a paint job on a bike that is to be used commercially, with a reasonably high risk of damage - doesn't sound very financially viable....

[TK3]

When hampton downs open {if it ever does at the snail pace it going} they've got hire bike to rider aroind the race track, gxr600's does anyone know if you need a bike licence to take them out?? im keen but im only 14 and dont get my licence until a few months~! ive got a full mnz competition licence.

Also took my bike in to get painted yesterday and the guy doing my bike is also doing all the bikes for hampton downs, the paint jobs for them are apparently $5k each !!! :shit:

thanks -max

5k includeding the fairings maybe but even that would be a strech. No way that they would cost that much.

[Pumba]

Max email darren on this email and he will be more than happy to answer any question

info@californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz

He will be the only one able to give you a definate answer.

Might be worht checking this out as well http://www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz/

[cambridgedan]

Cant help but think someone is talking that up abit. $5k for a paint job on a bike that is to be used commercially, with a reasonably high risk of damage - doesn't sound very financially viable....

hmm i think so, even 5k for the lot would be a bit steep but more believable

[steveyb]

When hampton downs open {if it ever does at the snail pace it going} they've got hire bike to rider aroind the race track, gxr600's does anyone know if you need a bike licence to take them out?? im keen but im only 14 and dont get my licence until a few months~! ive got a full mnz competition licence.

Also took my bike in to get painted yesterday and the guy doing my bike is also doing all the bikes for hampton downs, the paint jobs for them are apparently $5k each !!! :shit:

thanks -max

Did you happen to ask how many they are doing?

Cheers.

[Kornholio]

I'm pretty sure you need a full licence

Fuck!!...........

[dino3310]

how much is the bike hire? i havent been on a track since bay park closed it would be good to see how much me balls have shrunk:lol:

[Devil]

Did you happen to ask how many they are doing?

Cheers.

There will be 6 hire bikes. All GSXR600's...

[Big Dave]

More than just paint.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiwirider/3877842108/" title="_DSC3316 by KIWIRIDER, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2673/3877842108_15782d6581.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="_DSC3316" /></a>

[Big Dave]

Darren will also be working on the Kiwi Rider stand at speedshow if you want the skinny.

[firefighter]

What's the story should you bin one of these bikes? They insured? Or rider pays?

[Big Dave]

What's the story should you bin one of these bikes? They insured? Or rider pays?

The Insurance excess is an impediment against pushing too hard.

[dino3310]

:woohoo: Im getting thoughts of been ValinDINO rossi for a day

[firefighter]

The Insurance excess is an impediment against pushing too hard.

So, yes there is cover?

I don't have visions of going fucken crazy and getting my shoulder down...... I just like to know that if I 'oopsie' I won't be needing to take out another mortgage to pay for the damage........

[scracha]

Also took my bike in to get painted yesterday and the guy doing my bike is also doing all the bikes for hampton downs, the paint jobs for them are apparently $5k each !!! :shit:

thanks -max
5K for a paint job? Must have to strip all the Suzuki paint before it falls off first. Sheesh, I hope nobody hiring them drops them then.

[Big Dave]

So, yes there is cover?



With a large excess - as would be expected.

[DELLORTO]

Cant help but think someone is talking that up abit. $5k for a paint job on a bike that is to be used commercially, with a reasonably high risk of damage - doesn't sound very financially viable....

im not joking.....the paint work includes carbon firbe re- enforcement on the fairings ect

[scracha]

im not joking.....the paint work includes carbon firbe re- enforcement on the fairings ect

Seems pretty stupid IMHO. $5K fairing on a $15K bike. Why not just use oggi knobs (or similar) and do a bulk deal with a very cheap aftermarket fairing supplier? If there's a $2K excess then I'd imagine most racers and track-day junkies will be bringing their own bikes.

[Kornholio]

Seems pretty stupid IMHO. $5K fairing on a $15K bike. Why not just use oggi knobs (or similar) and do a bulk deal with a very cheap aftermarket fairing supplier? If there's a $2K excess then I'd imagine most racers and track-day junkies will be bringing their own bikes.

Screw the paint I need a bike license dammit :Police:

[Big Dave]

Oggy knobs are Sponsors.

[steveyb]

Check out the Calif SBK School Australia site.
They have all the info on there that will be relevant to the NZ situation.
The prices are quite high, but it all depends on what you think it is worth to you to want to do it or not.
Don't sit on here complaining about how high the prices are.
The costs are high too.
Trackday price =
Bike rental =
Gear rental =
Crash deposit =
Excess tyre use cost =
Insurance excess credit card authorisation or cash holding =
So it can add up.

But, if you want to do it, you will do it, if not or you can't afford it, then that is just life ay? Bet some of you want to own a Desmoseidici also, but can't afford it. Don''t see any of you complaining about Ducatis pricing.

The model about how to run, build and set up the bikes has been well worked out in the US and Oz over many, many years. So if they believe that reinforcing the fairings rather than fitting all sorts of slidy knobs is best, then I would suggest that it probably is.

Good luck to them. This can only make our sport and hobby in NZ more sophisticated and gain exposure.

Cheers

[mossy1200]

More than just paint.

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I got mine done for $500 included fill the hole in the side.LOL

[dubshack]

Darren here from Hampton Downs Ride Days and the California Superbike School.

I thought that I should put a few things straight here. We are not paying $5000 per bike for paint. We have 14 bikes to paint so $70,000 is a bit high.
This came about from a guy talking to the painter about our bikes and then looking at a full set of Yoshimura race bodywork that was going to go onto the GSX-R1000s that we have. He asked how much is that worth and he was told $5K. This was for the Yoshi bodywork not the paint. This bodywork is not going on our bikes it is now going on the Suzuki team bikes. We have bodywork from Racers Edge in Australia.

Bike rental: you need to be licenced to ride a 600 or have a race license with suitable race history.
We have two options on hire. One with insurance and one without.
Without = $4,500 excess
with = $1,000 excess

All bikes have Oggy knobs and axle armour.
Our bodywork is reinforced in certain areas with fibreglass, not carbon.

I hope this answers some questions but I am happy to answer any questions that you may have.

[Big Dave]

I am happy to answer any questions that you may have.

What are next week's lotto numbers?

[dubshack]

What are next week's lotto numbers?

Why, do you want to get your bike painted?

[Big Dave]

Larfed!

And some of them Unobtainium alloy bits.

[scracha]

We have bodywork from Racers Edge in Australia.

High Kiwi wages obviously mean nobody over here could produce bodywork at a competitive price
:jerry:



I hope this answers some questions but I am happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Any prices yet on the 'school days'? Own bikes or otherwise?

[kiwigambla]

well I havent been on the track for about that long too Dino..... I know my balls havent shrunk ... But OMG my leathers certainly have.:(

[dubshack]

Any prices yet on the 'school days'? Own bikes or otherwise?

The California Superbike School will be $429 per day. One day is one level of which there are 4. Everybody starts at level 1 and if they want to they can keep on going from there.
Hire bikes are available if you wish at an additional $349 per day.

[Big Dave]

And don't forget there are the ride days too team.

[scracha]

The California Superbike School will be $429 per day. One day is one level of which there are 4. Everybody starts at level 1 and if they want to they can keep on going from there.
Hire bikes are available if you wish at an additional $349 per day.
i'm interested, Is there a breakdown of what each level entails?
When you say "everybody" starts at level one, does that include God-like top level racers?
How much is the insurance?
Is gear included with the hire bikes or is that extra?
Is the tyre wall after that loooooong downhill straight that's right next to the corner in the photos permanent or will they'll replace it with a lovely uphill (Cadwell park style) run-off?


LAST BUT NOT LEAST
Is there a choice of rubber?
140586

[dubshack]

i'm interested, Is there a breakdown of what each level entails?
When you say "everybody" starts at level one, does that include God-like top level racers?
How much is the insurance?
Is gear included with the hire bikes or is that extra?
Is the tyre wall after that loooooong downhill straight that's right next to the corner in the photos permanent or will they'll replace it with a lovely uphill (Cadwell park style) run-off?


LAST BUT NOT LEAST
Is there a choice of rubber?


Best place for a breakdown of levels is www.superbikeschool.com
Everybody means everybody.
Insurance is $375 for the day.
Gear hire is extra. $75 for the day for Arai helmet, Teknic leathers and Alpinestar boots and gloves. A $500 excess applies to gear hire.
The photos that we did the other day are all looking reverse direction and the tyre wall is permanent. Cadwell has zero run off on half the track with the armco on the edge, I know as I hit it. The rest is wide open but it needs to be as the track is about 4 meters wide. This track is 12 meters wide at its narrowest and 25 meters wide at its widest. No comparison really.
Just remember that you go where you look. Look at tyre wall, say hello to tyre wall.
Rubber choices. Yup. You can have black Dunlop Qualifiers or black Dunlop Qualifiers. I suggest the Qualifiers.
I hope this helps.

[Kiwi Graham]

Just a few sums in the early morning hazey fug that is my brain at the moment:

Cost of the day = $430
Bike hire = $350
Insurance = $375
Gear hire =$75
Total for the day $840

Fall off and there is an additional;
Bike excess = $1000
Gear excess = $500

New total for the day = $2340

If you didnt take the insurance option for the bike and fall off;

Total for your day = $5465

Wow!!!

I'll check again in another couple of cups of coffee's time.

Walks away shaking his head.

[dubshack]

Just a few sums in the early morning hazey fug that is my brain at the moment:

Cost of the day = $430
Bike hire = $350
Insurance = $375
Gear hire =$75
Total for the day $840

Fall off and there is an additional;
Bike excess = $1000
Gear excess = $500

New total for the day = $2340

If you didnt take the insurance option for the bike and fall off;

Total for your day = $5465

Wow!!!

I'll check again in another couple of cups of coffee's time.

Walks away shaking his head.

Use your own bike. Don't crash - $429
Saving your life through what you learned - Priceless

[KS34]

Use your own bike. Don't crash - $429
Saving your life through what you learned - Priceless

Brilliant! When are the training days starting.

[Kiwi Graham]

Use your own bike. Don't crash - $429
Saving your life through what you learned - Priceless

Good advise ;)

[SS90]

Use your own bike. Don't crash - $429



When you think about it, that's a really good deal.

You can pay $70 for a novice day (or what ever they are now days) and sure, you can go "round and round", but really, not learn too much. It sounds like money well spent.

great gift for Fathers day birthday etc.....

[dubshack]

Brilliant! When are the training days starting.

The school will be running on the 19th and 20th of November.
You can do one day or two days it is up to you.
We will be running Level 1 at every school.

After November the next schools will be at the end of January and then again in March.

[slowpoke]

Ya gotta laugh at the folks knockin' these prices.

Just ask yourself a few questions:

Why are the punters hiring a bike? They either 1. aren't confident using their own bike/gear, or 2. don't own a suitable bike/gear, neither of which would fill me with confidence if I was hiring a bike to 'em.

What does it cost to run a bike for a track day? Oil and filter change every 2 days, tyres every 3-5 days, pads, fuel, general wear and tear, accelerated major servicing (valve clearances etc) etc

What would YOU charge for a stranger to do a full trackday on YOUR $20k bike?

At the end of the day it is a business venture not a public service. From all reports though it's a brilliant experience and nothing else comes close, not in NZ anyway.

[steveyb]

ya gotta laugh at the folks knockin' these prices.

Just ask yourself a few questions:

Why are the punters hiring a bike? They either 1. Aren't confident using their own bike/gear, or 2. Don't own a suitable bike/gear, neither of which would fill me with confidence if i was hiring a bike to 'em.

What does it cost to run a bike for a track day? Oil and filter change every 2 days, tyres every 3-5 days, pads, fuel, general wear and tear, accelerated major servicing (valve clearances etc) etc

what would you charge for a stranger to do a full trackday on your $20k bike?

At the end of the day it is a business venture not a public service. From all reports though it's a brilliant experience and nothing else comes close, not in nz anyway.

ditto.....

[scracha]

Best place for a breakdown of levels is www.superbikeschool.com

Thanks



If you didnt take the insurance option for the bike and fall off;

New total for your day = $2340


Would you be any cheaper buying your own top notch bike and gear before falling off it at the track? Bear in mind there's fuel, tyres, wear and tear on the bike, instructors (and their bikes) expenses and track hireage. I guess as they're a business they're allowed to make a little bit of profit too.

For someone who's thinking about dipping their toes into racing or just wants to go faster "safely" (who maybe doesn't want to risk their own bike or doesn't have a suitable bike) then it seems VERY reasonable to me. Bear in mind that you can literally turn up and ride without having to shag about with vans, trailers, tyre warmers, paddock stands, etc etc. From what I've read it's one to one tuition.

[Peter Smith]

The school will be running on the 19th and 20th of November.
You can do one day or two days it is up to you.
We will be running Level 1 at every school.

After November the next schools will be at the end of January and then again in March.

I'm keen.
Where do I sign up?
Does the 2 day option cover more stuff, or still level 1? Twice the price?

[Devil]

I'm keen.
Where do I sign up?
Does the 2 day option cover more stuff, or still level 1? Twice the price?

You can do Level 1 on the first day, and Level 2 on the day immediately following. They are completely independent days.

www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz
info@californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz

[johan]

Use your own bike. Don't crash - $429
Saving your life through what you learned - Priceless

That's good value for a days training. I'm keen on this.

Are twins allowed?

[dubshack]

That's good value for a days training. I'm keen on this.

Are twins allowed?

Of course but you will have to pay for both of them. :rolleyes:

Seriously though. If it has two wheels and an engine then it is welcome (as long as it is roadworthy, i.e. WOF std or will pass race scrutineering)

[johan]

Of course but you will have to pay for both of them. :rolleyes:

Seriously though. If it has two wheels and an engine then it is welcome (as long as it is roadworthy, i.e. WOF std or will pass race scrutineering)

Fair enough :niceone:

cheers

[Wingnut]

Jesus I get sick of reading posts from people who just whinge about the cost of attending such a school.

No one is holding a gun to your head!

[KS34]

Jesus I get sick of reading posts from people who just whinge about the cost of attending such a school.

No one is holding a gun to your head!

Well put! It's the way of the world. No longer do you need to wait for a thing! everything should be cheap, full of value, custom built to personal expectation and there are no losers! I hope when a dog walks past them it bites because they are in training to be victims!

[Marknz]

You can do Level 1 on the first day, and Level 2 on the day immediately following. They are completely independent days.

www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz
info@californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz

You can, but they don't recommend that you do it that way. They prefer you go away and put the Level 1 knowledge gained to some use before coming back to do Level 2.

[dubshack]

You can, but they don't recommend that you do it that way. They prefer you go away and put the Level 1 knowledge gained to some use before coming back to do Level 2.

As a coach at the school, I would highly recommend doing level 1 and 2 back to back. The technology that is covered in the two levels are so different to each other that they compliment each other.
We get some of the best results when students do this.

[Marknz]

As a coach at the school, I would highly recommend doing level 1 and 2 back to back. The technology that is covered in the two levels are so different to each other that they compliment each other.
We get some of the best results when students do this.

Fair enough. They refused to let me do it that way in Aussie, but if it'll be different here then good on you.

[dubshack]

Fair enough. They refused to let me do it that way in Aussie, but if it'll be different here then good on you.

It's no different the world over. They even run 2 day camps in the States and Europe.
I'm sorry that they denied you of this in Aussie. I will have a talk to them about it as they shouldn't have done this.

[slowpoke]

Are twins allowed?

Absolutely.....er, except yours, you're too bloody quick on the thing already!