David Tua or Shane Cameron?

[Dean]

So I had a good debate with mates today on who will win the upcoming epic fight - David the Tua man VS Shane cameron the mountain warrior. Lets line em' up.

*David Tua* 5'9, 53 fights-49 won, 44 by KO.
*Shane Cameron* 6'2, 24 fights-23 won, 20 by KO.

Now Im voting for David Tua, he fought on a more grand scale a ledgend Shane is out of Davids leauge, his left hook, power, determination, this will be a good comeback for Tua's career. Although Shane has the reach and height advantage but his skin condition could lose it for him. A big media hype, SO who do you think will win? State why.

[gtr boy]

tuas never been knocked out
so if shane doesnt blood up it should be a goodie
but if i were betting id put my money on tua
i can smell a rematch if cameron does blood up though

[Blackshear]

Boy, you best buck the fuck up on your ideas.
I'll be praying for you that Chuck Norris does not get wind of this.

On the serious side, the new up-and-comer younging will most probably be fitter, and with a larger swing it's starting to lean towards the tall bugger.
Tua is still a fucking monster, though. First headshot wins?

[98tls]

Bit like a choice between Raquel Welch and Sophia Loren really,least nobody would be stupid enough to call it the fuck:blank:fight of the century.

[wbks]

So I had a good debate with mates today on who will win the upcoming epic fight - David the Tua man VS Shane cameron the mountain warrior. Lets line em' up.

*David Tua* 5'9, 53 fights-49 won, 44 by KO.
*Shane Cameron* 6'2, 24 fights-23 won, 20 by KO.

Now Im voting for David Tua, he fought on a more grand scale a ledgend Shane is out of Davids leauge, his left hook, power, determination, this will be a good comeback for Tua's career. Although Shane has the reach and height advantage but his skin condition could lose it for him. A big media hype, SO who do you think will win? State why.Shane fucking Cameron! Tua thinks he can just waltz in after some heavy training for his first major fight in yonks, and beat the most devoted/committed fighter. It's pretty typical in how he's going for a knockout as if he can just walk in and dominate. He's old news. btw $40 on sky to watch? Jesus chrrrriiist!

[Hitcher]

David Tua's title fight against Lennox Lewis showed that he is way off the pace to being a serious heavyweight contender. And that was when he was several years younger and match fit.

That said, I haven't seen Shane Cameron fight a class heavyweight. While he clearly has a huge heart, he also gets hurt.

The question was who will win this? If Tua's fit and up for this, it will be no contest. The result will be a knockout in three. If Tua's not fit, and Cameron can remain relatively unscathed, then it will go the distance. In that scenario, Cameron stands a good chance of winning on points, because I don't think he has the punch to knockout Tua.

[Pussy]

I'd like to see Shane win... but us whiteys bleed too easily. That, I reckon, will be a determining factor

[hospitalfood]

i think cameron. he is probably smarter.

[Boob Johnson]

David Tua's title fight against Lennox Lewis showed that he is way off the pace to being a serious heavyweight contender. And that was when he was several years younger and match fit.

That said, I haven't seen Shane Cameron fight a class heavyweight. While he clearly has a huge heart, he also gets hurt.

The question was who will win this? If Tua's fit and up for this, it will be no contest. The result will be a knockout in three. If Tua's not fit, and Cameron can remain relatively unscathed, then it will go the distance. In that scenario, Cameron stands a good chance of winning on points, because I don't think he has the punch to knockout Tua.
^^ +1

IF Tua is fit enough he'll knock ol glass jaw Cameron out.

[Elysium]

Boxing is lame.

[gatch]

My moneys on Shane, if he doesn't get a hook to the dome he will school Tua, give him a lesson in boxing just like Lennox Lewis did..

[Dean]

Are you guys forgetting Shanes skin problem? All it takes is a few hits to the face and Shane will have a few minutes until being disqualified due to the amount of blood. Tua has been intensively training and some say he is back in his prime, the mans motivated, once his left hook meets home: Night night.

[gatch]

Are you guys forgetting Shanes skin problem? All it takes is a few hits to the face and Shane will have a few minutes until being disqualified due to the amount of blood. Tua has been intensively training and some say he is back in his prime, the mans motivated, once his left hook meets home: Night night.

He has to hit him in the face first though, I don't think that Tua will be anywhere near fit enough, good fight conditioning is not something that is achievable in a few months.

[jaymzw]

Tua easy!!!

Left, Right, Goodnight...
boxing is gay

[Dean]

boxing is gay
You little prick, go watch ya cricket or tennis.

He has to hit him in the face first though, I don't think that Tua will be anywhere near fit enough, good fight conditioning is not something that is achievable in a few months.

Tua WILL get a hit on Shane in the face, Tua has experience, many years of it fighting the likes of Lennex Lewis (the best heavy weight at the time)something Shane doesent. Shane shouldnt of called David out in the first place, the man needs to know where he belongs and stick to his own guns.

[Fatt Max]

I'm no expert, I just hope Cameron knocks seven shades of shite out of that Tua bloke then maybe he may drop his "I Wish I Was A Bad Ass LA Gangsta" accent that irritates the be-jeebers out of me

[Pussy]

I'm no expert, I just hope Cameron knocks seven shades of shite out of that Tua bloke then maybe he may drop his "I Wish I Was A Bad Ass LA Gangsta" accent that irritates the be-jeebers out of me

There is just the problem of Shane bleeding, Max. As bad as, if not worse, than Henry Cooper used to

[wbks]

Shayne is badass and will own

[riffer]

Meh. I reckon this one is as big a ripoff as wrestling is. It's completely set up so there is going to be no conclusive result. Either Cameron will win on a controversial split points decision or Tua will cause Cameron to bleed and the match will be called short TKO.

Either way, they'll fleece people out of their money more than once for no real result.

[mowgli]

Cameron should offer Tua a vowel, then he'll be f'ked.

[gatch]

fighting the likes of Lennex Lewis (the best heavy weight at the time)

Tua got schooled then though.. He was shown that just having a massive arm will not win a fight..

[wbks]

Meh. I reckon this one is as big a ripoff as wrestling is. It's completely set up so there is going to be no conclusive result. Either Cameron will win on a controversial split points decision or Tua will cause Cameron to bleed and the match will be called short TKO.

Either way, they'll fleece people out of their money more than once for no real result.I agree apart from that I think it will either be tuas for cameron bleeding or camerons for absolutely raping tua over the general course of the match

[Reckless]

David Tua's title fight against Lennox Lewis showed that he is way off the pace to being a serious heavyweight contender. And that was when he was several years younger and match fit.

That said, I haven't seen Shane Cameron fight a class heavyweight. While he clearly has a huge heart, he also gets hurt.

The question was who will win this? If Tua's fit and up for this, it will be no contest. The result will be a knockout in three. If Tua's not fit, and Cameron can remain relatively unscathed, then it will go the distance. In that scenario, Cameron stands a good chance of winning on points, because I don't think he has the punch to knockout Tua.

What he said! Bang on!

Although Tua will never get another shot, so if Cameron beats him he may get a chance at a few fights in the states. So I'd like to see Cameron win.

[Fatt Max]

There is just the problem of Shane bleeding, Max. As bad as, if not worse, than Henry Cooper used to

Blimey, didnt know that. I remember the piccies of Coops with claret all over his boat. If Shane is tomato head then he may struggle if Tua lands one.

Here's hoping Shane gets in first

Cheers mate for the info

[ManDownUnder]

It'll go like this.

Round 1 *Ding ding*
Jab... spar... dance... jab... spar. WHACK SHIT FUCK THUMP.

The winner by way of knock out is DAVID TOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[FlangMasterJ]

It'll go like this.

Round 1 *Ding ding*
Jab... spar... dance... jab... spar. WHACK SHIT FUCK THUMP.

The winner by way of knock out is DAVID TOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm with ya on this. Tua's going to come out swnging. A left to the body then a Tua special to the left temple.

[mynameis]

Tua will chew him alive and spit him out, Camerons no match.

[mynameis]

David Tua's title fight against Lennox Lewis showed that he is way off the pace to being a serious heavyweight contender.



Age is catching up on the ol memory :lol:

He almost knocked Lewis out twice on different rounds.

[98tls]

I'm with ya on this. Tua's going to come out swnging. A left to the body then a Tua special to the left temple.

:laugh::killingmeYou really believe that,surely not.Tuas not even a has been,tried but was nothing but an epic fail..only Tua after such an epic fail would have the gumption to even be associated with another event with any mention of boxing,mind you given a choice between the welfare system and a beating im not surprised.

[98tls]

Age is catching up on the ol memory :lol:

He almost knocked Lewis out twice on different rounds. Almost is millions away from did.

[Motu]

Lewis shit himself when he saw that left whistle past his nose...so he just stayed away from it.Same with this fight...if Tua connects Cameron is down.If Cameron dances out of reach and keeps touching he'll win on points.

[Conquiztador]

The way it all came together:

"Guys, you know none of you will have a shit show to become anything. Therefore lets make one final money-maker here. TAB will get rich, Sky TV will get rich. They will both provide funds here, and both of you will get a mill. No need to beat each other up. Go the distance and we call it a draw, and we can milk it one more time...

Sign here boys and you are on the gravy-train!"

Draw. But where is the voting option???

[98tls]

Lewis shit himself when he saw that left whistle past his nose...so he just stayed away from it.Same with this fight...if Tua connects Cameron is down.If Cameron dances out of reach and keeps touching he'll win on points. Lewis survived much worse in his day.......jesus some of them actually hit him,i doubt he filled his pants over a bit of wind delivered from a dwarf.Tua cant fit into a decent suit let alone go 6 rounds with a boxer.

[Headbanger]

Tua has never been beaten up in the ring,even when he loses and has fought at the highest level,, Cameron gets beat up every time, even when he's winning and has never got out of the local level.

Tua, Third round, Cameron's career will be over.

[Reckless]

career will be over.

Gotta agree with that bit! Whoever losses, career over.

[Headbanger]

I reckon Tuas career is already over, and winning this fight wont revive it. He can line up a few chumps to knock over but no one is going to be very interested.

[davebullet]

As Hitcher said... Any comment on reflexes? Tua's not a fast puncher but he sure is a heavy one. If Cameron gets a swell on his right eye and misses seeing the left coming in - it's goodnight nurse for Cameron.

[Dean]

The poll is getting interesting, some of you havent mentioned David Tua's background/culture. As a young kid he was made to fight grown men, brawls taught him to have no fear. Thats what makes David a true warrior, already he has been training intenesly and due to his experience it may re-kindle a flame. We could be witnessing the start of Tua's career, make or break. cmon tua followers raise the votes!

[ynot slow]

If Tua connects in first 5 rounds,obviously he'll win,if it goes full distance I think Cameron has fitness with speed.Tua has fitness but gets sluggish at the end.

A couple of Tuas' lefts just failed to connect against Lennox,if they had who knows where Tua may have gone.

Reach is everything,Cameron will stay out of range(well his game plan)and tag Tua at every chance from a distance,if Cameron does get in close look out for left hooks will be the call.

[wbks]

The poll is getting interesting, some of you havent mentioned David Tua's background/culture. As a young kid he was made to fight grown men, brawls taught him to have no fear. Thats what makes David a true warrior, already he has been training intenesly and due to his experience it may re-kindle a flame. We could be witnessing the start of Tua's career, make or break. cmon tua followers raise the votes!What a load of shit. Pro boxers have no fear, anyhow. The only way his "culture" of brawling influences his boxing is that he is a brawler compared to boxers . The only way he'll win is if cameron starts bleeding.

[Dean]

What a load of shit. Pro boxers have no fear, anyhow. The only way his "culture" of brawling influences his boxing is that he is a brawler compared to boxers . The only way he'll win is if cameron starts bleeding.

Bull man Shane is scared of fighting David, he knows Tua has experience and is a ledgend in heavy weight, he knows that he will be on the floor when the left hits home. He wants to branch his career so to do that he has to fight the meanest. All it takes is a few hits in the right place and Shane has a few minutes until he is TKO.

[Dooly]

First time I've ever seen Tua genuinely angry at an opponent.
(Whther thats true, or an act?)
If he harbours that anger properly, I think he'll beat Cameron easily.
I hope he does.

[Cookie Monster]

Well I voted for Tua as I think he will win. On the TV the other week I thought Tua looked in the best shape he has been in for a while....

Saying that I hope Cameron knocks Tua on his arse as I think Tua a big :finger: Shhhhh Plz dont tell him I said that.....:laugh::lol:

[wysper]

Reach is everything,Cameron will stay out of range(well his game plan)and tag Tua at every chance from a distance,

He will have to do more than that. I don't think either fighter wants to win on points. They want to knock the other fucker out!


i doubt he filled his pants over a bit of wind delivered from a dwarf.

Now that is FUNNY. Comedy gold my friend. :killingme:

I think Shane will get cut, and if the fight goes too long he may very well bleed to death, so he will need to finish it as early as he can. Might be too much of an ask for him to knock Tua out.

[bull]

Cameron if smart could win this bout by boxing and avoiding the only punch Tua has - he wont drop Tua though it would only be by points.

On the other hand i'd hazard a guess that Tua in training has developed an extra punch for the arsenal which will hit Cameron and win by KO in the 2nd Round.

[Dean]

Fair estimate, so far im betting $100 on Tua, the price could be lifted. Not in the TAB just amongst mates if you want to lose or earn some cash you can arrange a bet.

[SonoNeko]

O for Awesome!

How about K for Owned, (Shane Cameron that is) XD

In the Press Conference, Shane quotes -to Tua- "I seen those Lennox Lewis fights, you got a hiding". lol, if Tua got even so much as a 'hiding", imagine a match with no other than Shane and Lennox themselves. Sorry, but Shane wouldn't last the first round.

Shane Cameron is all talk.

[mattian]

you didn't include loses in your stats.
I see Cameron winning but, it will go the distance and he will win on points because he's younger and fitter. I don't think there are many boxers who could knock David Tua out, hes a rock solid brick shit-house! who likes to spell Awesome with an O :laugh:

[jaymzw]

Bumpity bump

For anyone wanting to watch some showboating. TV3, 60 minutes on now...

[Hitcher]

I could see the fear in Shane Cameron's eyes.

[aahsv]

you didn't include loses in your stats.
I see Cameron winning but, it will go the distance and he will win on points because he's younger and fitter. I don't think there are many boxers who could knock David Tua out, hes a rock solid brick shit-house! who likes to spell Awesome with an O :laugh:

I like Shane, he's a good kid with potential, but Tua's too strong, it'll all be over within 5 rounds :thud:

[orangeback]

Lewis shit himself when he saw that left whistle past his nose...so he just stayed away from it.Same with this fight...if Tua connects Cameron is down.If Cameron dances out of reach and keeps touching he'll win on points.
and if that's the fight strategy it will be a shit fight like the Lewis one.
I lost a lot of money due to that, when i lived in the uk as i put 300 pounds on Tua for a win at 46to1 . at some back alley bookie in Putney London.
I'm going for Tua , hes fought a lot of good fighters in his time , and The mountain goat a lot ove no names, just check out some of the fight on u- tube :thud:

[short-circuit]

I can't predict the result but I will say

Shane Cameron is the better boxer - he has a much greater repertoire of punches, torso movement and ring sense

However, he has some worrying variables to contend with:


If he can position himself, Tua has a much bigger punch (that's the early danger)
He cuts (this could end things later in the fight)
Tua has a granite jaw (as evidenced when Lewis peppered him and gave him the learn)
Tua has big match experience


These are all huge factors. Who knows what to expect?

[Dean]

I could see the fear in Shane Cameron's eyes.

To right Hitcher, the fear in Shane's eyes, its because Shane recognizes Tua's brute strength and violence. Notice how at the start Tua was low in votes, now it is a tie! Keep it that way it makes this more the interesting.

[nothingflash]

Tua may have once spelt 'awesomne' with an 'O' but Shane Cameron is definitely coming across as the dummy compared to Tua when interviewed. Shane Cameron seems to think half the battle is winning the trash talking - I just hope he remembers to hit him when the fight starts.

[Brett]

Tua has arguably got more to prove than Cameron. I think that this has perhaps given Tua more push to train as hard as possible to make sure he is in top shape. Cameron may be a better 'boxer' however he does not hit as hard as Tua and he sure does not have the head made of rock that Tua does.
Personally I would like to see Tua win as he comes across the more likable guy who is a bit more humble and 'respectfull'. I do not like Camerons trash talking to the level it got to, even though I appreciate it is part of the build up.

Either way, I hope it is a good fight, Cameron is certainly a formidable force.

[wbks]

Tua has arguably got more to prove than Cameron. I think that this has perhaps given Tua more push to train as hard as possible to make sure he is in top shape. Cameron may be a better 'boxer' however he does not hit as hard as Tua and he sure does not have the head made of rock that Tua does.
Personally I would like to see Tua win as he comes across the more likable guy who is a bit more humble and 'respectfull'. I do not like Camerons trash talking to the level it got to, even though I appreciate it is part of the build up.

Either way, I hope it is a good fight, Cameron is certainly a formidable force.Whether or not you like tua (I don't really) he certainly seems like he has his eyes open to the whole thing. That makes me think that he knows how hard he has to train, and has the right mindset to go into the fight. Cameron, on the other hand seems to be past the point of cocky and into the deluded area. He flat out refuses to recognize that Tua has made his mark on the world, and he hasn't. Thinks it will be easy or something. And yes, he did look scared looking Tua in the eyes while he was getting pissed

[mynameis]

They are both so dumb they can hardly string a sentence together :lol:

Camerons gonna get eaten alive, he's no match to Tua.

[Jonno.]

Tua has had his day, time for Shane to end his career.

[short-circuit]

Tua has had his day, time for Shane to end his career.

That's what I'd like to see, just not sure if it'll happen

Go S.C - From S.C

[Pussy]

Go S.C - From S.C

You forgot the hyphen......

[mynameis]

Tab Odds :

$1.55 Tua
$2.35 Cameron

[alley cat]

That's what I'd like to see, just not sure if it'll happen

Go S.C - From S.C

me 2. i hope he slaughters him.

[peasea]

me 2. i hope he slaughters him.

Wouldn't it be great if they climbed into the ring and just started prodding each other with their index fingers?:lol:

Praps not.....

[oldrider]

Assuming both fighters are in top condition for the fight, it will be interesting!

Better boxer? Marginally, Cameron.

Cameron is a trader, he traditionally trades blows to get his chance to finish his opponents.

If Cameron could maintain his discipline and box for the entire bout he could possibly beat Tua on points.

If he gets tired, gets hit, gets carried away cut or cocky, he will revert to type and trade blows, that will be fatal for him!

In top condition, Tua will last the distance but what is his true condition, he can't be match fit!

In a slug fest? I believe Tua should knock Cameron out!

Two big hitters with minimum boxing skill between them usually turns into a slug fest.

Personally I don't have a favourite but it might end up being an interesting bout, probably boring but nevertheless, interesting!

Tua wont change his style or approach to the fight, from round one to the end of the fight, he has demonstrated that throughout his whole boxing career!

The only thing that he will change is his speed as and if he gets tired.

Cameron's best chance is to box quick, clever and long but can he do that?

[short-circuit]

You forgot the hyphen......

Sorry - Go S.C, from S-C.

[Reckless]

I think Tua is taking this one quite seriously!!
If thats a recent photo he's looking good?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10599359

[StoneY]

Tua has had his day-

Hes been washed up since Lenox Lewis out boxed him (granted he went the distance but that was his worst ever fight technically) and his confidence vanished
Sore rib my ass he was beaten fair and square:2guns:

Id rather have seen Shane and Lennox myself
This is a last ditch grasp by Tua at revitalising his long dead career and tbh I dont know why Camerons bothering

I say 3rd round TKO at the least to Shane when Tua craps out again

Only real comeback in the last 20 years worth noting (imho) was George Foreman back in the 90's when he wasted Michael Moorer with one HUGE left (shit ive digressed now):Offtopic:

[Reckless]

Tua has had his day-

Hes been washed up since Lenox Lewis out boxed him (granted he went the distance but that was his worst ever fight technically) and his confidence vanished
Sore rib my ass he was beaten fair and square:2guns:

Id rather have seen Shane and Lennox myself
This is a last ditch grasp by Tua at revitalising his long dead career and tbh I dont know why Camerons bothering

I say 3rd round TKO at the least to Shane when Tua craps out again

Only real comeback in the last 20 years worth noting (imho) was George Foreman back in the 90's when he wasted Michael Moorer with one HUGE left (shit ive digressed now):Offtopic:

Generally agreed and earlier in the thread I did say I'd rather see Shane win because he will get a shot and I don't think Tua will, but Tua does have one heck of a huge hit!! Be an interesting outcome.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd love to see him win...but he won't. Tua will cut him (yes I know he's had surgery and doesn't bleed QUITE so easily...but he'll still bleed), then he'll ko him.

No way does Cameron possess the power to ko Tua...no one has done it so far.

[retired motoman]

On line pole is pretty close:girlfight:
I could not stand tua in his early days with the afro :laugh:
But watching an interview on him the other night , he has matured a lot and
that will help , he is training hard and has lost a lot of weight .
I dont think ive missed any of shanes fights yet , he is a great fighter and he has shown he has a chin to , but im on the fence with this one , its going to be a great fight or all over in 2 rounds to maybe shane? but i still have ?? over weather him cuting easy is soughted now. Cant wait.

[gatch]

I got stopped outside bp today by a babe wearing rock gear asking me if I want to enter a draw where the prize is a vip package for 10 at one of the local pubs for the tua/cameron death match.

free booze, gargantuan tv etc, fingers crossed..

[Dean]

OK recent news confirmed David Tua's Auntie is dead following the tragic tsunami, since David is a well known Samoan in the community both here and there this could change things. He says he will dedicate this fight for her. My condolences.

Remember guys to book the fight pre the day on sky or it may be full. As a warning I will post on friday giving you guys one last chance if you havent made a prediction or if you want to renew the prediction. I will keep all predictions on a log and a prize will be for the one with the most accurate one.

[wbks]

OK recent news confirmed David Tua's Auntie is dead following the tragic tsunami, since David is a well known Samoan in the community both here and there this could change things. He says he will dedicate this fight for her. My condolences.

Remember guys to book the fight pre the day on sky or it may be full. As a warning I will post on friday giving you guys one last chance if you havent made a prediction or if you want to renew the prediction. I will keep all predictions on a log and a prize will be for the one with the most accurate one.$40 to book it on sky:pinch:

[oldrider]

Knockout-Tua, Points-Cameron!

Cameron does have the power to knock Tua out but will have to expose himself to Tua's own power to inflict it!

Risky, unless Cameron can box Tua's power out of him, haven't seen that ability demonstrated by Shane so far in his career!

It won't be a great boxing spectacle but it should be a really interesting tussle. :girlfight: I am looking forward to it! :2thumbsup

[Rcktfsh]

Tua by KO, despite being older and rustier he's fought at a far higher level than Cameron ever will. Whilst his fight against lennox was a big disapointment notice that right till the final bell lewis was weary of him, compare that with the contempt he showed tyson in his next fight. Cameron will never fight at that level.

[MisterD]

Has-been versus never-will-be...it's a toughie alright....:yawn:

[short-circuit]

Whilst his fight against lennox was a big disapointment notice that right till the final bell lewis was weary of him, compare that with the contempt he showed tyson in his next fight.

Tyson peaked age 23 (1989) he fought Lewis in 2002. He is still the youngest heavyweight boxing champion.


I hope no one ever makes the mistake of mentioning Tua in the same sentence as Tyson ever again - Tua isn't worthy of lacing up the man's boots.

[mynameis]

Tyson peaked age 23 (1989) he fought Lewis in 2002. He is still the youngest heavyweight boxing champion.


I hope no one ever makes the mistake of mentioning Tua in the same sentence as Tyson ever again - Tua isn't worthy of lacing up the man's boots.

No you idiot Ali was 22 when he first won the title beating Listen.

[MisterD]

No you idiot Ali was 22 when he first won the title beating Listen.

What has that to do with anything? I doubt there's any argument amongst people that know what they're talking about that Tyson's boxing peak was his defeat of Spinks in '88.

[short-circuit]

No you idiot Ali was 22 when he first won the title beating Listen.

What's that got to do with Tyson winning the title at age 20 against Trevor Berbick in 1986 Camel-toe?

I said he peaked aged 22 (my mistake MisterD)

[mynameis]

What has that to do with anything? I doubt there's any argument amongst people that know what they're talking about that Tyson's boxing peak was his defeat of Spinks in '88.

Exactly, goes to show "s-c the clown keyboard warrior" knows jack all about boxing.


What's that got to do with Tyson winning the title at age 20 against Trevor Berbick in 1986 Camel-toe?

I said he peaked aged 22 (my mistake MisterD)

You're a muppet, stick to what you do best fragile ego :killingme:

[Dean]

Exactly, goes to show "s-c the clown keyboard warrior" knows jack all about boxing.


You're a muppet, stick to what you do best fragile ego :killingme:

someone bling this man! :killingme:rofl:

[short-circuit]

someone bling this man! :killingme:rofl:

Yes bling that man. The surgeon did some great work constructing that camel toe of yours Mylameass

[short-circuit]

Exactly, goes to show "s-c the clown keyboard warrior" knows jack all about boxing

Really? I think all it shows that you have the reading and comprehension skills of an eight year old

[SARGE]

so i had a good debate with mates today on who will win the upcoming epic fight - david the tua man vs shane cameron the mountain warrior. Lets line em' up.

*david tua* 5'9, 53 fights-49 won, 44 by ko.
*shane cameron* 6'2, 24 fights-23 won, 20 by ko.

Now im voting for david tua, he fought on a more grand scale a ledgend shane is out of davids leauge, his left hook, power, determination, this will be a good comeback for tua's career. Although shane has the reach and height advantage but his skin condition could lose it for him. A big media hype, so who do you think will win? State why.

ok... If cameron tries to go toe-to-toe with tua.. Its gonna be a short fight ..


However ..

If cameron is smart and fights a technical match .. Tua is gonna have a hard time of it

[ready4whatever]

I reckon Shane Cameron will take it out. but Tua may suprize everyone. it'll be a good fight

[mynameis]

Tyson peaked age 23 (1989) he fought Lewis in 2002. He is still the youngest heavyweight boxing champion.


I hope no one ever makes the mistake of mentioning Tua in the same sentence as Tyson ever again - Tua isn't worthy of lacing up the man's boots.


Really? I think all it shows that you have the reading and comprehension skills of an eight year old

Hahahahahahaa :laugh: :lol: :rofl: :killingme

Go figure nutter :weird: You're the one waffling about Tyson and his age and then saying you meant this not that.

Can't blame you for loving a rapist, you go around threatening women in this site that you'll beat them and sort them out in person.

Grow some balls and get a life, silly twat.

[MisterD]

I reckon Shane Cameron will take it out. but Tua may suprize everyone. it'll be a good fight

I don't think anyone has ever really classed Cameron as a "boxer"...I really don't think he's got the ability to boss the fight and pick and choose his attacks.

He's going to go straight forward and walk into a big punch..goodnight.

[mynameis]

I don't think anyone has ever really classed Cameron as a "boxer"...I really don't think he's got the ability to boss the fight and pick and choose his attacks.

He's going to go straight forward and walk into a big punch..goodnight.

Except for this clown here :


I can't predict the result but I will say

Shane Cameron is the better boxer - he has a much greater repertoire of punches, torso movement and ring sense

[Reckless]

Oh for fucks sake don't wreck the bloody thread you guys!!!:girlfight:

[98tls]

If tides allow there should be no shortage of Tua fans.As for the fight,not xactly "fight of the century" is it.Win or lose methinks Davids goat is in for a very special night.

[McJim]

Pub brawl of the month. I mean it's who versus who again?

I suppose it must be nice for these guys to be a big noise in a small room.

[Reckless]

hey just a thought??
Wouldn't it be nice if one of them actually gets a challenge and wins??
Now I'd be the first to eat my own words if that happened LOL!!!

Doubt if Cameron can do it but Heavyweight boxing certainly needs a new kid on the block. A new "great white hope" would suit them down to the ground.
Even a loosing challenge would set him up! Boxing rigged? Never! LOL!!!

[oldrider]

Pub brawl of the month. I mean it's who versus who again?

I suppose it must be nice for these guys to be a big noise in a small room.

C'mon, let them have their moment in the sun, it may not shine for long anyway! :whistle:

They are putting themselves out there, I am going to enjoy it, I hope! :2thumbsup

[98tls]

C'mon, let them have their moment in the sun, it may not shine for long anyway! :whistle:

They are putting themselves out there, I am going to enjoy it, I hope! :2thumbsup All very well for you to say mate,think of the poor bloody goat.:pinch:

[Dean]

Pub brawl of the month. I mean it's who versus who again?

I suppose it must be nice for these guys to be a big noise in a small room.
:mad: Did you just say............big noise......small room............never say that again in this thread I dont want to hear anyone utter such a thing. This fight is big, a milestone in Shane Camerons career, we are witnessing make or break her McJim ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?

For the love of rock n roll, beer, women, motorcycles do you swear to tell the truth nothing but the truth in this thread so help you Dean.

Are you looking forward to the fight - yes/no.
Do you have a genuine interest in these heavy weight contenders - yes/no

[98tls]

Do you have a genuine interest in these heavy weight contenders - yes/no I would if they were,this is nothing more than a cheap albeit rather short ride on a well worn merry go round,at least a welcome break from the media frenzy that is/still the Morrison affair:Oops:i mentioned affair.

[oldrider]

Cracking the attention span of sports reporting and media in general in New Zealand is not easy! :brick:

Any local sporting activity that can do this deserves any accolades that it can get! :2thumbsup

Tua and Cameron are only just cracking it here and McJim is correct, it is a big noise in a small room!

KB is full of moans and groans about the piss poor coverage that motorcycle events get and I agree!

Good luck to these guy's the attention span will be short lived but hey, at least they are home grown! :niceone:.......May even be organic! :Oops:

[Dean]

Notice.

Alright folks so I have got all your predictions on a log, Id like to thank everyone for voting and commenting, as you all know tommorow is the big day. Id say so far oldrider has a pretty good assumption out of all, enjoy the fight for that matter enjoy your weekend, ride safe.

[Number One]

Tua is still a fucking monster, though. First headshot wins?

OMG I would love to see him connect one of those good shots....maybe we will see it this time?

[Gareth123]

Tua because he's awesome and Cameron is talking WAY to much smack for someone about to get his face cut up.

Cameron should look in the mirror real hard over the next 24 hours, his face will never look the same again!

I hope Tua wins, I don't want to look like a plonker!

[Indiana_Jones]

where's the option for "like it matters, it's fixed like there's no tomorrow" ?


<img src="http://www.dbtechno.com/images/Don_King_Prizefighter_Wii.jpg">

-Indy

[Dean]

Tua because he's awesome and Cameron is talking WAY to much smack for someone about to get his face cut up.

Cameron should look in the mirror real hard over the next 24 hours, his face will never look the same again!

I hope Tua wins, I don't want to look like a plonker!

yeaaahh thats the spirit! Tua will win, nothing can stop the man hes a train! I hate the cameron supporters, tommorow in the lounge all the cameron fairy faggots sit on the left while we sit on the right. Cameron talks trash, Tua speaks volume.

*Interview*
Shane - " Im going to stop the man in his distance
Interviewer - " David what do you say to this?'
Tua- "ahhh with all respect I think this will be Shanes last fight.......... im REALLY going to hurt you shane and I ahhh appreciate you for giving me this oppurtuinity".
Shane - "(gulp, red face) im going to sttt sttt stop the man in his distance"

[Motu]

A lot of people here may wonder who the hell is Sir Bob Jones - but it's good to see the man talking about what he knows best.A good article on the fight.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10600765

[gammaguy]

why was there no option for"who cares?":whistle:

[AllanB]

My money is staying in my pocket.

I'm thinking Cameron Wants it badly.

Tua Needs it badly...

I agree that whoever loses takes their career with them.

I hope Tua has been sparing with tall boxers - don't want to see him jumping around like a Jack Russel on heat again.

Fight of the Century - poos - the promoter should be held up for misleading advertising.

[Jonno.]

yeaaahh thats the spirit! Tua will win, nothing can stop the man hes a train! I hate the cameron supporters, tommorow in the lounge all the cameron fairy faggots sit on the left while we sit on the right. Cameron talks trash, Tua speaks volume.

*Interview*
Shane - " Im going to stop the man in his distance
Interviewer - " David what do you say to this?'
Tua- "ahhh with all respect I think this will be Shanes last fight.......... im REALLY going to hurt you shane and I ahhh appreciate you for giving me this oppurtuinity".
Shane - "(gulp, red face) im going to sttt sttt stop the man in his distance"

He was a train, 10 years ago. He's a has been, never will be.

Shane Cameron beat a guy with a broken hand and two bleeding eye brows. He's ranked over Tua for a reason.

[zahria]

[The mountain warrior was funny on Pulp sport!

[Dean]

He was a train, 10 years ago. He's a has been, never will be.

Shane Cameron beat a guy with a broken hand and two bleeding eye brows. He's ranked over Tua for a reason.

If Tua was a train 10 years ago then why would Shane call him out and the media to fight him? Shane wants his career to bloom so why would he waste his time on a dead beat? Have you seen Davids current physiqe, some could argue he's in better shape than he was 10 years ago.

[ynot slow]

Out of interest the rule regarding cuts and blood,so can only be stopped in first 6 rounds and only if causes blindness for safety reasons iirc.And anyway Cameron hasn't had a fight stopped due to cuts in his career.

[Jonno.]

If Tua was a train 10 years ago then why would Shane call him out and the media to fight him? Shane wants his career to bloom so why would he waste his time on a dead beat? Have you seen Davids current physiqe, some could argue he's in better shape than he was 10 years ago.

Because Tua has a high profile. I admit Tua's looking his best but this isn't a fasion show it's boxing.

[Sidewinder]

White power nuff said:whocares:

[Dean]

Because Tua has a high profile. I admit Tua's looking his best but this isn't a fasion show it's boxing.

The whole main weapon used against Tua in this debate was how David hasn't boxed or trained heavily in the last two years. So that Shane would win because he has more endurance and very agile, yet you agreed to David possibly being in his peak fitness. And we all know how potent David was 10 years ago there is no denying that.

[Marknz]

Is there something on other than MotoGP and WSB this weekend?

[Dean]

Is there something on other than MotoGP and WSB this weekend?

Yes MarkNZ you might enjoy something I got for you for the weekend the ahhh lets see hmmmmm let me just go get it.

Pockets are a bit dirty.

Oh here we are :finger: BE GONE TROLL TO THE FIERY PITS OF RACING FORUM IN THE NAME OF SPANKME I CALL UPON TO SMITE THEE WITH THE SWORD OF TRUTH TO THE PITS I SMITE THEE MIGHTY SMITE'ER!

[Marknz]

Okay... well I'll go for Cameron given it is just a staged event to get the Tua family out of financial strife. It's a shame David got shafted by all those hangers-oners who knew he was good for some easy money.

[FlangMasterJ]

Is there something on other than MotoGP and WSB this weekend?

Yeah. the motocross of nations. :Punk:

[Dean]

Okay... well I'll go for Cameron given it is just a staged event to get the Tua family out of financial strife. It's a shame David got shafted by all those hangers-oners who knew he was good for some easy money.

Good to see you are getting into it, go for Tua, dont worry about the financial strife/reasons its the game and its strictly buisness.

[laserracer]

im pick'n.. tua.. over the ..mountain oyster.. and yes im part coconut well gilbert islander ..but close enough...go the bro

[Argyle]

David Tua need to do a Tyson and knock Cameron fast in the beginning if not i think the taller guy will win by just making Tua really tired from keeping his guard up and then when Tua is tired he will punch him out.

[kiwifruit]

Tua is gonna smash him.


[The mountain warrior was funny on Pulp sport!
yeah that was good value!

[jrandom]

It'd be much more interesting if they were allowed to grapple.

Boxing's kind of an artificial sport. Like Tae Kwon Do, or track cycling.

[kiwifruit]

Boxing's kind of an artificial sport.

U r.

[Dean]

Woot Woot soon and the fight will commence. Have a good weekend everyone btw Tua will own!!!!!

[oldrider]

Woot Woot soon and the fight will commence. Have a good weekend everyone btw Tua will own!!!!!

Many years ago, I watched a fight go 10 rounds with Jimmy Ripply (Samoa) and Bob Wilson (NZ)

Jimmy out boxed Bob (with ease) for all of the ten rounds, only to catch a hay maker from Bob in the closing seconds of the tenth round!

8,9,10 "out"! Poor Jimmy!

It's never over until the fat lady sings, big hits will be in abundance tonight!

Nothing tires a fighter more than launching big hits that "don't" find their mark.

It may not be technical but you can bet your boots it will be willing!

I hope somebody posts the result nice and quickly on KB tonight!

I have no way of knowing, can't hear it, can't see it, so please get it on here as soon as you can, thanks, John.

[Conquiztador]

"Tua makes his way first into the ring to a Pacific themed song, followed by Cameron to an upbeat version of The Gambler.

The main event is set to start after the five-fight undercard ended with a stunning knockout win by two-time former Australian champion Colin Wilson over current champion John Hopoate"

Undercard:

Light Middleweight: Steve Chur Heremaia (NZ) vs Frank Lo Porto (AUS) - Six round decision to Heremaia.

Cruiserweight: Max Alexander The Great v Aloryi Moyoyo Mensah (Ghana) - Six round decision to Mensah.

Light Heavyweight: Shane Chapman v Soulan Pownceby - Technical draw after 3rd round accidental head but.

Heavyweight: Daniel The Doberman Ammann (Aus) v Lawerence Tauasa (NZ) - Six round decision to Ammann.

Heavyweight: John Hopoate v Colin Kid Coal Miner Wilson - Fourth round KO to Wilson

[Conquiztador]

Referee Bruce McTavish gives instructions to the two fighters.

Tua in black trunks, with white trim, weighing in at 107.8kg.

Cameron in white trunks with black trim, weighing in at 103.5kg.

Round 1: Bizzare first round. Cameron is knocked down twice and the fight appeared to be over but referee McTavish called a time out and the bell sounded to end the round. Could be a quick fight folks.

Round 2: That was quick. The second round started and Tua stepped in and destroyed Cameron. McTavish jumped in as Cameron wasn't defending himself. Fight over seven seconds into the second round.

David Tua has knocked out Shane Cameron seven seconds into the second round at Mystery Creek in Hamilton.

[AllanB]

Round 2: That was quick. The second round started and Tua stepped in and destroyed Cameron. McTavish jumped in as Cameron wasn't defending himself. Fight over seven seconds into the second round.

Glad I did not pay $1600 for a seat at "The fight of the Century"

Darn got to wait another 90 odd years for another decent fight :shifty:

What a crock of shit. Women's Volleyball is much more entertaining.

[vindy500]

that was quick

[serious4]

Cheers for the update Conquiztador. re I'm far too cheap to pay for the fight.

AS per usual with boxing. Bit of an anti climbmax:done:

[Gareth123]

Referee Bruce McTavish gives instructions to the two fighters.

Tua in black trunks, with white trim, weighing in at 107.8kg.

Cameron in white trunks with black trim, weighing in at 103.5kg.

Round 1: Bizzare first round. Cameron is knocked down twice and the fight appeared to be over but referee McTavish called a time out and the bell sounded to end the round. Could be a quick fight folks.

Round 2: That was quick. The second round started and Tua stepped in and destroyed Cameron. McTavish jumped in as Cameron wasn't defending himself. Fight over seven seconds into the second round.

David Tua has knocked out Shane Cameron seven seconds into the second round at Mystery Creek in Hamilton.

Tua won? Did i read that right?

[Motu]

Well,someone was sure full of hot air.

[FlangMasterJ]

Thanks for the updates.

It was always going to be a walkover.

[Conquiztador]

What a crock of shit. Women's Volleyball is much more entertaining.

And they give me wet dreams...

[kiwifruit]

Oarsome!
.

[Conquiztador]

OK, so we all knew it. This is how it would end. But we were hoping that the "White Hope" would have a chance...

[Rodney007]

wow....... had my moneys on tua :-)

that was some savage sh*t!

[Monstaman]

He did well and deserved it to, Cameron wasn't so mouthy at the end of that.

Young buck has a lot to learn from experienced "old fat man".

[oldrider]

Thanks for the quick report CQ, I thought Cameron would have been a bit better than that! :sick:

Shane will have to get a real job now, I guess! :mellow:

[Drunken Monkey]

Oarsome!
.

Hell yeah. Tua almost killed the guy. No contest.

[Reckless]

I must admit I voted for cameron?
But the pure power Tua displayed was just freckin awesome!!!
Looked more like teacher and student!!
It certainly showed a gap between the two levels IMHO.
I'm pumped especially when that fat bugger knocked Mr finger up the arse Hoppawaty into the next universe!
Was a Good night!

[Conquiztador]

From stuff:

The Tuamanator is back - big time! David Tua re-ignited his international boxing career and left some serious doubts hanging over Shane Cameron's competitive future with a stunning win in the heavyweight contest in Hamilton on Saturday night.

Tua knocked Cameron down three times - twice in the first round and finally just seven seconds into the second round for a stunning knockout victory.

On an emotional night when Howard Morrison jnr sang the national anthem in honour of his recently deceased father, Maori entertainment legend Sir Howard, and the victims of the Samoan tsunami that included an aunt of Tua were also recognised, Tua let loose with no lack of fury.

Cameron had no answers at all to the power of Tua who produced another of his trademark early decisions.

His left hook was dynamite but his combination work was just as impressive.

The win was Tua's 50th in professional fights against three losses and a draw.

Coming after a two-year lay-off and his second comeback during a turbulent period out of the ring where he has fought for his fortunes in the courts, Tua must now be considered a real chance to pick up his well-earned reputation in the United States as a serious contender amongst a thin layer of top-tier heavyweights.

He has snared Cameron's WBO Oriental and Asian-Pacific belts but it will be more interesting and undoubtedly more valuable to see what the win does for his international rankings.

Even at the age of 37 Tua might still have enough time to earn another crack at a world title. He certainly appears to still have the goods to do the business.

Taunted by Cameron as a fat old man who was past his best, Tua's response was predictably brutal.

Both boxers earned $500,000 for a fight where the pay cheques were the only even things between them.

The result will leave Cameron with plenty to ponder. At 31 he is young in professional terms for this division.

But having earned his stripes on a diet of nobodies he is now left contemplating his second defeat in 25 fights.

But more importantly this fight always loomed as a major test for him in terms of stepping up to another class of opponent.

There will be no calls for a rematch.

But the sticky situation Tua is in with a low-budget Maori TV deal covering his next three fights in New Zealand, means his future here might be limited.

It's on to bigger and brighter things for the South Auckland Samoan.

"I'd like to thank Shane for giving me the opportunity to do what I like doing tonight," said Tua.

"It was very important in every way. I have lost a lot of weight and some people said I had lost my speed and power as well.

"It's not a comeback it's a continuation. It's always great to come back and fight in New Zealand. It means the world to me."

Tua joked he was going to go to Burker King and then go to sleep

[Mully]

So, did anyone here stump up the $40 to see a-round-and-a-bit??

[Reckless]

So, did anyone here stump up the $40 to see a-round-and-a-bit??

Na mate stuff Sky! went to the Howick club and it was packed!!!

[Str8 Jacket]

So, did anyone here stump up the $40 to see a-round-and-a-bit??

We leached of Dean (thanks) the fights leading up to it where w0rth the watch. Shame the Tua and Cameron fight didnt last longer. Was the out come I expected and hoped for! :)

[McJim]

So when is this "Fight of the Century" gonna happen?

[Conquiztador]

And only one walks away...

[Gareth123]

Did Tua get touched?

[Reckless]

Did Tua get touched?

yeh by the Ref when he pushed him off! lol!!!

[Rcktfsh]

Tua by KO, despite being older and rustier he's fought at a far higher level than Cameron ever will. Whilst his fight against lennox was a big disapointment notice that right till the final bell lewis was weary of him, compare that with the contempt he showed tyson in his next fight. Cameron will never fight at that level.

All came down to class, though i was right about the older bit didn't see any rust.

[Headbanger]

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[Brett]

Tua has had his day-

Hes been washed up since Lenox Lewis out boxed him (granted he went the distance but that was his worst ever fight technically) and his confidence vanished
Sore rib my ass he was beaten fair and square:2guns:

Id rather have seen Shane and Lennox myself
This is a last ditch grasp by Tua at revitalising his long dead career and tbh I dont know why Camerons bothering

I say 3rd round TKO at the least to Shane when Tua craps out again

Only real comeback in the last 20 years worth noting (imho) was George Foreman back in the 90's when he wasted Michael Moorer with one HUGE left (shit ive digressed now):Offtopic:


Generally agreed and earlier in the thread I did say I'd rather see Shane win because he will get a shot and I don't think Tua will, but Tua does have one heck of a huge hit!! Be an interesting outcome.


Tyson peaked age 23 (1989) he fought Lewis in 2002. He is still the youngest heavyweight boxing champion.


I hope no one ever makes the mistake of mentioning Tua in the same sentence as Tyson ever again - Tua isn't worthy of lacing up the man's boots.


He was a train, 10 years ago. He's a has been, never will be.

Shane Cameron beat a guy with a broken hand and two bleeding eye brows. He's ranked over Tua for a reason.


Simply put....LOL AT YOU.

Tua just showed exactly what he is capable and the last few years having his boxing rebuilt from the ground up has yeilded results...those being that Cameron stood less chance than a hot girl in a Western Australian Mine.

He was faster and stronger than ever and this time he had learnt/developed the killer instinct he lacked again Lewis.

Go Tua!

[Brett]

I must admit I voted for cameron?
But the pure power Tua displayed was just freckin awesome!!!
Looked more like teacher and student!!
It certainly showed a gap between the two levels IMHO.
I'm pumped especially when that fat bugger knocked Mr finger up the arse Hoppawaty into the next universe!
Was a Good night!

LOl was that fight not just really ridiculous? Neither of those two should be calling themselves boxers IMO.

[oldrider]

Lennox Lewis would do it to him all over again, just like Tua dealt to Cameron tonight! (welcome to the real world Shane)

They are all polls apart, each of them are on a vastly different level to the other!

Headbanger, thanks for posting the fight, appreciated!

[Reckless]

LOl was that fight not just really ridiculous? Neither of those two should be calling themselves boxers IMO.

My take in that fight is mr old guy Greg?? was it ( showing my ignorance here) who looked like he was ok in his day was supposed to be easy meat for Hoppa but the old guy bit back and put him away LOL!!!

Yeh thanx Headbanger!!

[98tls]

Thanks for the quick report CQ, I thought Cameron would have been a bit better than that! :sick:

Shane will have to get a real job now, I guess! :mellow: No doubt,least what he earns from it will be his.If anyone thinks Tua will go on to better things:rofl::rofl:is no doubt stupid enough to believe they just watched "the fight of the century".Tua will go on to be nothing more than a circus act as he was tonight,with no hope of financial redemption.To little to late not to mention to short.Load of shite the lot of it,more entertaining was the circus sideshow that went with it.There is though one benefit (xcuse the pun) he may well save the taxpayer a little $ by donating his winnings to help out his countrymen in time of need.

[mynameis]

Tua will chew him alive and spit him out, Camerons no match.


I can't predict the result but I will say

Shane Cameron is the better boxer - he has a much greater repertoire of punches, torso movement and ring sense

However, he has some worrying variables to contend with:


If he can position himself, Tua has a much bigger punch (that's the early danger)
He cuts (this could end things later in the fight)
Tua has a granite jaw (as evidenced when Lewis peppered him and gave him the learn)
Tua has big match experience

These are all huge factors. Who knows what to expect?




Camerons gonna get eaten alive, he's no match to Tua.



Not that we didn't know this but again, you know jack shit about boxing wanabe know it all knob jockey.

:weird: :weird: :weird: :weird: :weird:

[Spyke]

Tua easy!!!

Left, Right, Goodnight...
boxing is gay

DONE! hows that for the trueth!

[R6_kid]

There was a fight on tonight? :blink:

[SARGE]

He did well and deserved it to, Cameron wasn't so mouthy at the end of that.

Young buck has a lot to learn from experienced "old fat man".

yea .. never underestimate us 'fat old men'

age and experience will always overcome youth and a big mouth :done:

[driftn]

Was funny, in the first round when Cameron was just jabbing away using his reach he almost looked cocky.
I was hoping that Mr Cameron would win as I have meet him and he is a really good guy but it was obvious his first mistake was pissing David Tua off.
Second mistake was even gettint in the ring with him in the first place.
It was never going to go his way.
I do give Shane props as he stood there and took 13 or 14 good blows to the head in a row from one of the most powerful punches in the world.
Tua will never be heavy weight champ of the world but he will be remembered as one of the greats I think.

[SixPackBack]

Either of the Klitschko brothers would beat Tua to death. The level of boxing displayed last night is a long way from the world stage.
Vitali Klitschko is 9 inches taller than Tua!

[StoneY]

I lost 50 bucks!!

I had more faith in Shane- wow has Tua come back well

But Six Pack is right- neither fighter is 'world' class right now
I wonder how well it would have gone for Tua if Shane hadnt led with his chin?:shutup:

Disappointed- 40 bucks on PPV and ten to the bro who knows less about boxing than I know about childbirth but ffs- he got it right EVEN down to 'KO in round 2' :gob:

I picked every big title figh in the last 7 years but man I got this one as wrong as wrong can get
Well done David Tua

FARK!

[Fatt Max]

It'll go like this.

Round 1 *Ding ding*
Jab... spar... dance... jab... spar. WHACK SHIT FUCK THUMP.

The winner by way of knock out is DAVID TOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Fucking hell, professor Dumbledoor is in the house....

Glad I didnt pay $40 for it though. The missus paid good money for me and it's still over in a couple of minutes

[smoky]

Lennox Lewis would do it to him all over again,

They are all polls apart, each of them are on a vastly different level to the other

you must of watched a different fight to me, David Tua never really took the fight to him no argument there. But what did Lennox Lewis do?
Nothing
I certainly didn't see him take the fight to Tua, granted he didn't have to to win, but if he was a champion, if he was such a level above Tua he would've dispatched him as easy as Tua dispatched his opponent last night.

[fizbin]

well that was disappointing.
all props to Tua for doing it but once again it was one punch that finished the fight. Shane made the mistake of getting hit with the left hook and it was all down hill from there. although i have to give the guy credit for standing there and taking as much as he did.
As has been said this was not world class boxing and we will find that when/If Tua does get a shot at the title again then it will end like Lewis fight. out boxed by the better boxer.

on the up side Tua did display more punches than he has before unloading with combination's before dealing to him.

Glad i didn't pay for it. fight of the month maybe.

[paturoa]

On youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZLnkcR7N_M

But be quick - will prolly be taken off soon

[oldrider]

you must of watched a different fight to me, David Tua never really took the fight to him no argument there. But what did Lennox Lewis do?
Nothing
I certainly didn't see him take the fight to Tua, granted he didn't have to to win, but if he was a champion, if he was such a level above Tua he would've dispatched him as easy as Tua dispatched his opponent last night.

He simply didn't have to and to Tua's credit, Lewis did show Tua 's punching power the respect that it deserved. (he didn't have to take any risks to win)

Lewis simply outmanoeuvred Tua throughout the "fight" and walked away with the money, his mana and titles in tact!

By the same token, he (Lewis) did not show Tyson any such respect at all and knocked him out!

We all see things differently, Lewis made David Tua look like a buffoon. (IMHO)

Lewis said before the fight with Tua:

It will take more than one big punch and a bad hair cut to "defeat" a professional pugilist of my capability!

Lennox Lewis was true to his word, he won every round, comfortably!

Even so, David Tua can be proud of what he achieved, unfortunately he will always be unappreciated by uninformed Kiwis at home! :shifty:

[Goblin]

But be quick - will prolly be taken off soonOarsome!!

I loved Tuas humble approach to the whole fight. Cameron on the other hand was too mouthy and cocky for my liking. When will these white boys realise there's no good hitting a coconut in the head...it just makes them angry. :clap:

[Pussy]

Shane was outclassed.. fair and square.
I was bloody disappointed to see David chuck those two in when Shane was down... piss poor sportsmanship.

[Number One]

Oarsome!!

I loved Tuas humble approach to the whole fight. Cameron on the other hand was too mouthy and cocky for my liking. When will these white boys realise there's no good hitting a coconut in the head...it just makes them angry. :clap:
:lol: Exactly!

Such a visceral sport. I'm always moved by the huge range of emotions I feel when I watch it. Watching most sports I would hardly ever raise an eyebrow let alone feel adrenaline or any emotion. I both hate and love to watch. I don't go out of my way to see it but have caught most of the BIG fights along the way through time since I was a kid - thanks to me dad. Never been to a live match and to be honest I'm not sure I want to...BUT that was awesome and scary and thrilling and sad and excellent to watch...Thanks for the linky to the vid! :2thumbsup I had to man the house and child so hubby could go weatch it at a mates(aren't I good wifey :rolleyes: :laugh:).

Much better fight than that Lennox Lewis fight - that has to have been the most boring one ever. Two guys dancing around in a ring with the tall pretty one occasionally tapping the short arsed one on the shoulder to keep him at distance.

[Dean]

I won 100 dolllars baby woooh
I love you Tua, was a great night, how fuckin mean was it seeing Tua throw those 14 power shots. But in all respect to shane cameron hang in there.


btw anyone around the northshore area over 18 that can buy me some stuff tonight I will give you extra $ for petrol money.

[Jonno.]

For shame :crybaby: I suppose it serves him right for all the shit talk.

Where in the shore are you/what do you want bought.

[Dean]

see private m buzzinowt

[McDuck]

There was a fight on tonight? :blink:

Na it was a walk over....

[peasea]

Na it was a walk over....

Just a bit of a....

It would have been nice to at least have got seven or eight rounds after all that hype. All credit to Tua though, even though I lost a couple of bucks.

[Sidewinder]

and all the losser that payed to watch the boxing last night haha im laughing at you all!! not even 2mins! shit you could buy a hooker for that much and last 2mins and what would be more fun?

[hospitalfood]

it was actually good to watch, may have been short but it was action packed. better than a 12 round hug fest any day.

i did not pay though........

[cs363]

If that was the 'fight of the century' it kinda makes you wonder what the next one will be billed as..... :whistle:

[Rcktfsh]

Shane was outclassed.. fair and square.
I was bloody disappointed to see David chuck those two in when Shane was down... piss poor sportsmanship.

Bit harsh there Pussy, Tua's been critisised in the past for pulling punches when it looked like an opponent was going down. Cameron is a hard bastard and took more hits than most to fall Tua was only punching till the ref stepped in.

[steve_t]

What kind of moron are you? You really don't know how to spell looser?

Who's laughing at who? :mellow:

I had a great time watching the match with a group of mates, some beers and good laughs, we all pitched a couple of bucks each. Worth it i'd say. :yes:

Yeah a $40 hooker, AIDS and all would have been much more fun. :sick:

Who's the looser again? :blink:

LOL. Just pointing out that loser only has one 'o'. Looser is the opposite of tighter :Oops:

[Owl]

May I ask why the poll wasn't closed before the fight?:confused:

Pretty sad when people are voting for Tua after the fact!:weird:

[firefighter]

LOL. Just pointing out that loser only has one 'o'. Looser is the opposite of tighter :Oops:

LOL! (Genuine typo) :Oops:

[trump-lady]

I thought it was a great fight. Tua was in the best shape I have ever seen him. I was impressed by Tuas entrance, his choice of song and his appreciation for his culture. He showed pride in being from New Zealand and honored those people who died in the Tsunami. Very fitting and humble. Meanwhile we had Cameron who came out to some BS song- no mention of culture or for that matter Sir Edward Morrison. Its a shame because this is going worldwide and Tua gives thanks to NZ and Maori and Shane Cameron who rocks Maori tats can not acknowledge his own culture and country. I originally wanted Cameron to win but after his entrance and his cockyness I was disapointed and wanted his butb to be served. His tupuna would have been saddened by his lack of acknowledgment and it showed as he had not passion which Tua had plenty of.

Also the fight with Chooper pissed me off. That guy was fighting dirty trying to take advantage of Chopper and throwing punches while he was looking at the ref talking. By the way I went to school with that dirty prick and he learnt to box in prison after he served time for murdering his baby years ago

[Patrick]

May I ask why the poll wasn't closed before the fight?:confused:

Pretty sad when people are voting for Tua after the fact!:weird:

LOL... Why not?

Couldn't see the fight as the linkys were closed down....

TUA is still behind in the count on the poll when I last looked. It seemed wrong.....

[Dean]

How do I close poll?

[Patrick]

How do I close poll?

Let it run. TUA is nearly ahead.....

[Dean]

Did you guys see the john hopawati fight hahaaha everyone in the audience were putting there fingers up lmao.

Oh and the guy with the tattoo "trick the police" because the original couldnt be shown.

[oldrider]

The entire fight... <object width="425" height="344">
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Please enlighten me, was the video access above removed by youtube, Sky, KB mods or some other means of cancellation?

I ask out of curiosity, I have no idea!

I was just going to call my neighbour over to have a look at the fight when it disappeared! :Oops:

At least the videos lasted a bit longer than poor old Shane did! :yes:

Actually, this thread was more entertaining than the fight, should it be renamed the "Thread of the Century"? :lol:

[Headbanger]

Please enlighten me, was the video access above removed by youtube, Sky, KB mods or some other means of cancellation?

I ask out of curiosity, I have no idea!


Sky television complained to Youtube so they removed it, It has been uploaded numerous times since then to youtube and other places.

[Jonno.]

PM me again dean.

[Headbanger]

And once again <object width="560" height="340">
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[SixPackBack]

Holy shit, what a mismatch.:gob:

[Owl]

And once again

Cheers Headbanger!:niceone:

[Forest]

Second mistake was even gettint in the ring with him in the first place.


$500,000 for a couple of minutes work is hardly a mistake.

[Hitcher]

I hope Shane Cameron retires immediately. That bout showed clearly that he is, at best, a journeyman boxer. Under pressure he has nothing.

[kiwifruit]

There is a 60mb .avi of the fight available via isohunt.com.

[gatch]

Wowee what a hiding !

I had hoped that Cameron would win as I thought he was the more technical man, but he got well shown up, should have been a first round KO..

Anyway I had $5 on tua to win in the 5th (payiing $11), $5 on tua in the 6th (paying $15) and $5 on tua in the 7th (paying $17). All of these tickets ended up in small pieces and strewn aimlessly around me.

I'll say it again, what a hiding !

[Indiana_Jones]

Wow.

Not rigged at all.....

lol

-Indy

[cs363]

Let it run. TUA is nearly ahead.....

Ooh look, Tua's ahead in the poll.....there must be some psychics on KB... :lol:

[tri boy]

Smashed him bro!
Tua is in great shape, good footwork, n pretty fast combination's for a heavyweight.
He might just get another look in at the title.

[wbks]

Wow.

Not rigged at all.....

lol

-IndyNot the first time I've heard this... Surely no pro boxer with big aspirations would throw that away so publicly for a few mil bribe?

[Indiana_Jones]

Not the first time I've heard this... Surely no pro boxer with big aspirations would throw that away so publicly for a few mil bribe?

Everyone has a price....

-Indy

[wbks]

Everyone has a price....

-IndyNow that you say that he did seem pretty subdued from the start...

[Pussy]

Now that you say that he did seem pretty subdued from the start...

Mainly because that first left hook the David connected REALLY hurt Shane!
Don't under-estimate the power of Tua's left hook

[wbks]

Mainly because that first left hook the David connected REALLY hurt Shane!
Don't under-estimate the power of Tua's left hookI'm sure! Maybe I'm just overestimating SC

[The Pastor]

tua should be disqualed.

its a shame cos was a far better boxer on the night.

[R6_kid]

tua should be disqualed.

its a shame cos was a far better boxer on the night.

I don't think those two punches at the end of the first round made that much of a difference. Cameron had a can of whoop-arse opened on him at the start of the second round - seven consecutive clean and hard punches to the head and he was down and out.

[cowboyz]

all that really happened is cameron was holding his left too low. He should have been smarter than that. Once he got a decent left tag it was all over. I think he was surprised by tuas power and after the first knockdown he jumped up too quick.. He should have taken the time to regroup and think about it before jumping back in.
Its a real shame it went so fast. I was expecting a closer fight and wasnt expecting cameron to go stand in front of a frieght train of a left.

[mynameis]

Oarsome!
.


O is for Oarsome bro !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaIZF8uUTtk


He did well and deserved it to, Cameron wasn't so mouthy at the end of that.

Young buck has a lot to learn from experienced "old fat man".

I wana see him being interviewed and made to answer all the trash talk before !! LOl..


Did Tua get touched?

Just a little tickle behind the ear like elmo.


Oarsome!!

I loved Tuas humble approach to the whole fight. Cameron on the other hand was too mouthy and cocky for my liking. When will these white boys realise there's no good hitting a coconut in the head...it just makes them angry. :clap:

LOl..claims to be a Maori boy from Gissy, East Coast.




I won 100 dolllars baby woooh
I love you Tua, was a great night, how fuckin mean was it seeing Tua throw those 14 power shots. But in all respect to shane cameron hang in there.



Gay you are.

Hang in there or hung on to the ropes.

[ManDownUnder]

I hope Shane Cameron retires immediately. That bout showed clearly that he is, at best, a journeyman boxer. Under pressure he has nothing.

... or in the true NZ style - he didn't win so he clearly needs to sack the coach. Works for the All Blacks.

Cameron was outgunned.Tua didn't get to the top in past by accident, he's fucken good. I understand he's got handspeed and power that are pretty amasing in boxing circles, and they came to the party.

I did smile when I saw Cameron's face as he stand up after the first 8 count I think it was. There's a little smile that says it all... "...oh this is going to be bad..."

Tue won fair and square, but they both go on to play another day.. the time may come where Tua's ages catches up with him and Cameron wins a rematch.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Tue won fair and square, but they both go on to play another day.. the time may come where Tua's ages catches up with him and Cameron wins a rematch.

Must disagree with you there. The fight showed they're not in the same league!

[Reckless]

I just watched the fight again in the Utube link here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129439041&postcount=168).
I can't believe Camerons lack of defense (hand position) from the get go! He's was either far to confident or his trainers need sacking.

I think oldrider speaks a lot of sense and agree with you mate!
What impressed me was Tua's handspeed with left and right hands. His right hook was just as good as his famous left on the night. I was surprised and impressed.
Now the test is to see him against someone further up the skill level as WBO and Asia pacific champ he will get some good challengers.
I sorta hope he gets another tittle shot now, while he's hungry, light and mean!
Although if his financials are what they say he might want a few fights in between to make a few extra bucks!
Who knows its boxing!!!

[Morcs]

These fat bastards suck.

Welter weights is far better. Tua and cameron are no where near being in the same class as Mani paquiao as far as actual boxing goes.

[vifferman]

O is for Oarsome bro !!



Listen again - this has been widely misquoted as "O for awesome", but if you listen, it's as Tua's family said when asked about it: "O for Olsen" (after some league players or somesuch). This has been used to portray Tua as a dumbarse, but he's no idiot, and is obviously a good sort, viz. his arm around Cameron after pounding the crap outt his head.

[Patrick]

Listen again - this has been widely misquoted as "O for awesome", but if you listen, it's as Tua's family said when asked about it: "O for Olsen" (after some league players or somesuch). This has been used to portray Tua as a dumbarse, but he's no idiot, and is obviously a good sort, viz. his arm around Cameron after pounding the crap outt his head.

Nah... It is O for oresum... He didn't like league let alone knew who played back in the early 80's....

But yeah, twas a good touch at the end. I thought he was asking Cameron to forfeit some of his earnings into the winners fund........

[ready4whatever]

Imagine buying a ticket for the match for a fight just over 3 minutes. :blink:
Gee whizz those hooks looked nasty from my point of view, imagine it from Shanes. The TUAMINATOR

[Dean]

This might cause a heap more pages in this thread but im afraid guys word out is David Tua is fighting the former 2nd heavyweight boxer in the world in the city of sails in a few months.

So im going to have to change up the polls so the next fight is in this thread , not now but soon.

[Dean]

Gay you are.

Hang in there or hung on to the ropes.

I aint no fruitcake man oh I mean boss btw when am I going to get that promotion? Asistant manager please.

I meant hang in there Shane, we both support Tua but Shane showed heaps of heart. He trained for 4 years for the fight, blood sweat and time all used up to be embarrised and wiped out within a few minutes. He wanted it so bad when Tua threw powershots he tried to "hang in there".

[MisterD]

This might cause a heap more pages in this thread but im afraid guys word out is David Tua is fighting the former 2nd heavyweight boxer in the world in the city of sails in a few months.

You mean Hasim "Lucky Punch" Rahman?

[Dean]

You mean Hasim "Lucky Punch" Rahman?

You got it mate hes going to be a hard competitor, btw while Ive got you hear what do you think this threads title should be? I thought of "David Tua's comeback" or maybe just a sticky boxing thread?

[retro asian]

I can't believe Camerons lack of defense (hand position) from the get go! He's was either far to confident or his trainers need sacking.

Defence is over-rated. If I recall correctly, Balboa didn't need to learn any defence techniques until Rocky IV.

[Peril]

145706
Ouch.Great pic though

[aahsv]

...
Tue won fair and square, but they both go on to play another day.. .

Yeah, Tua is the greatest - but he's gotta watch those punches when opponent is down on his knees - could have been disqualified :nono:

[mynameis]

Listen again - this has been widely misquoted as "O for awesome", but if you listen, it's as Tua's family said when asked about it: "O for Olsen" (after some league players or somesuch). This has been used to portray Tua as a dumbarse, but he's no idiot, and is obviously a good sort, viz. his arm around Cameron after pounding the crap outt his head.

Yeah heard that debate before, 0oh well don't matter I still like O is for Oarsome...is the new awesome :lol:

[Dean]

Anyone know who David Tua is fighting next?
Is it possible to restart the poll for the next fight?

[oldrider]

Anyone know who David Tua is fighting next?
Is it possible to restart the poll for the next fight?

He was due to fight Friday whatshisname? early in the new year but that seems to have been put on hold!

David Tua should knock Friday over but you never know on the night do you!

I don't think Cameron should fight again, he just takes too much punishment, for his own good!

David Tua's head was in the right place against Cameron, he was on fire, great to see!

[kiwifruit]

I recon tua will win

[caseye]

He will win, when the fight is rescheduled.His mum is crook and the figts off for now.
My money is defintely on the Terminator man.

[Dean]

Ok so It is confirmed David Tua is fighting 'Friday the 13th Ahunanya' the actual date isnt clear for 2010.

Here's stats of Ahunanya' to give him a fair stand in the debate.
Height 6'0''

Total fights 32
Wins 24
Wins by KO 13
Losses 5
Draws 3

It is also interesting to note that in 2007 Ahunanya won by K.O to shane cameron which could put him up par with David. Question is can he handle the Tua mans infamous left hooks?
http://i47.tinypic.com/ztc2gx.jpg

[Owl]

It is also interesting to note that in 2007 Ahunanya won by K.O to shane cameron which could put him up par with David.

2nd round vs 12th would hardly put them on par!:no:

[Headbanger]

I can do a sub-12 minute lap at Sepang (Well I assume I can, Lets just all go with that for the purpose of this exorcise) so that could put me on par with Rossi.....

[Tank]

Ahunanya is just there to be fodder while Tua builds a reputation.

He is there to get knocked out.

"On a par" : Tui

[Dean]

Ok I apologise for putting Ahunanya on the same par as David Tua, but who knows what might go down on the day.

To make it more interesting who would YOU want to see up against David Tua state why, best post gets green.

[Headbanger]

You.


10 characters

[Dean]

You.


10 charecters

David Tua against me? pfft please David should be scared of me!

[Headbanger]

I reckon Dave would give you a twenty minute head start.:banana:

[Dean]

Nope, boom to the right boom to the left boom to the nose 'And the winner by knockout is deeeeeeeaaaaaaannn

Crowd goes wild *yeaahhhhh Dean, Dean, Dean*

How would you picture it to be?

[wbks]

Ok I apologise for putting Ahunanya on the same par as David Tua, but who knows what might go down on the day.

To make it more interesting who would YOU want to see up against David Tua state why, best post gets green.The only pseudo-negro capable of massive bench presses and known for donning his birthday shirt at every chance of a "dance"...

[Tank]

How would you picture it to be?

Comical.....

[Ronin]

How would you picture it to be?

Brief


Bloody


I would still pay to see it though.