Undie 500 strikes again

[JimO]

chaos and fires in studentville again last night, people arrested wont get diversion, most of the trouble makers wont be students just shitheads

[flyingcr250]

chaos and fires in studentville again last night, people arrested wont get diversion, most of the trouble makers wont be students just shitheads

yea you could see it comming a mile away, the shitheads are the exact reason i wont got to the mount or to whangamata for new years.:2guns:

[crazyhorse]

It'll never change - that's what its all about.

[ital916]

fucking shoot the bastards with tazers, tear gas and rubber bullets along with every other non lethal weapon in the book. Then beat them with nightsticks, and boots and any other beating material on hand. Then arrest them and chuck em in lock up for a bit, plus they get a criminal record.

Then when it comes to undie 500 time next year, we will see how many of those participants shit their....undies, when the police show up.

[short-circuit]

What's with you boring, old, law abiding homos - Lighten Up

[hospitalfood]

fucking shoot the bastards with tazers, tear gas and rubber bullets along with every other non lethal weapon in the book. Then beat them with nightsticks, and boots and any other beating material on hand. Then arrest them and chuck em in lock up for a bit, plus they get a criminal record.

Then when it comes to undie 500 time next year, we will see how many of those participants shit their....undies, when the police show up.

do you think it will work ? i think you have been eating to many lentils and knitting to many cabbage warmers and have gone a bit soft.

[Elysium]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNUCUJ4IMfU

[scumdog]

What's with you boring, old, law abiding homos - Lighten Up

C'mon down and join the fun on Castle Street next year eh!

[short-circuit]

C'mon down and join the fun on Castle Street next year eh!

Oh well - can't be donut munching all the time can it?

[scumdog]

Oh well - can't be donut munching all the time can it?

It's BETTER than donut munching - ya get to see violent obnoxious drunken vandals in pain...

[short-circuit]

It's BETTER than donut munching - ya get to see violent obnoxious drunken vandals in pain...


Ah well - it's all fun and games till someone loses an eye

[NighthawkNZ]

What's with you boring, old, law abiding homos - Lighten Up

you can pay for the damage then, you pratt...

[short-circuit]

you can pay for the damage then, you pratt...

One "t" was all that was needed.

You can pay for the exaggerated police response, that will just inflame things prattt

[scumdog]

One "t" was all that was needed.

You can pay for the exaggerated police response, that will just inflame things prattt

You make it somehow seem...wrong, to inflame things?:scratch:<_<

[short-circuit]

You make it somehow seem...wrong, to inflame things?:scratch:<_<


Go for your life - as I say Shitehawknz can pay for the ensuing fall-outt

[Kickaha]

Ah well - it's all fun and games till someone loses an eye

Then it becomes fucking hilarious


fucking shoot the bastards with tazers, tear gas and rubber bullets along with every other non lethal weapon in the book. Then beat them with nightsticks, and boots and any other beating material on hand. Then arrest them and chuck em in lock up for a bit, plus they get a criminal record.

We need to set the dogs on them somewhere in amongst that as well

[davereid]

fucking shoot the bastards with tazers, tear gas and rubber bullets along with every other non lethal weapon in the book. Then beat them with nightsticks, and boots and any other beating material on hand. Then arrest them and chuck em in lock up for a bit, plus they get a criminal record.

Then when it comes to undie 500 time next year, we will see how many of those participants shit their....undies, when the police show up.

NZ Police are very very restrained.

While I am sometimes critical of the Police on other issues, I am always quietly proud of the way they deal with situations like this without the water cannon, tear gas and rubber bullets so popular in other parts of the world.

Good on the Police here, prosecute the troublemakers, make sure it costs them heaps, and make sure thay dont get diversion or get let off the hook.

[wbks]

Whats the problem with the undie 500? Like a girl on the news said: They wouldn't be throwing bottles at the cops if the riot police weren't there in the first place

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Whats the problem with the undie 500? Like a girl on the news said: They wouldn't be throwing bottles at the cops if the riot police weren't there in the first place

precisely - see earlier posts

[Elysium]

Whats the problem with the undie 500? Like a girl on the news said: They wouldn't be throwing bottles at the cops if the riot police weren't there in the first place

But why would you need to throw bottles at people when you full well know it can seriously injure? Why does the presence of the police mean you're allowed to attack people and property?

[short-circuit]

But why would you need to throw bottles at people when you full well it can seriously injure? Why does the presence of the police mean you're allowed to attack people and property?

They don't turn up to supervise believe it or not - they are the (anti) fun police....fan favourites among NZ bikers apparently

[NighthawkNZ]

But why would you need to throw bottles at people when you full well it can seriously injure? Why does the presence of the police mean you're allowed to attack people and property?

They were doing it before the police were there...

[Elysium]

They were doing it before the police were there...

Yep and it was easy to blame the police once they turned up.

[Jez]

'96 - 99 were pretty quite as far as the Undie 500 was concerned, I lived on Castle Street then while studying. In fact if I remember rightly we had some damned good parties, but then again if they were that good I was probably drunk so not sure if my memory is right.

But what I do remember is the drive-bys of the cops, everyone kinda calmed down for the 5 minutes it took for them to get a look and make sure everything was OK.

Now it seems like its throw the riot gear on and shut them down regardless ... they are just young adults trying to have some fun, but i guess we forget that somewhere along the way :(

This whole 'rebellion' thing of 18-21 year olds has been going on since there were 18-21 year olds funnily enough ... my fathers favourite story of a night on the piss with his older brothers has them locking an off duty cop in the boot of the vauxhall and doing 70mph down Oreti beach hitting as many bumps as they can. Its the same as the Undie 500, just a different colour so to speak.

[Kickaha]

Yep and it was easy to blame the police once they turned up.

Well after all, it is always the fault of the police for anything like that which happens ,are you implying the innocent fun loving students were somehow at fault? shame on you

[wbks]

But why would you need to throw bottles at people when you full well it can seriously injure? Why does the presence of the police mean you're allowed to attack people and property?Ever barked at a dog to provoke a reaction? Most have. See the parallel?

[Elysium]

Well after all, it is always the fault of the police for anything like that which happens ,are you implying the innocent fun loving students were somehow at fault? shame on you

The students at fault!? No! :shifty:

[short-circuit]

OLD FART ALERT - Go and get yourselves a cardigan each and a Toyota Prius.

I'll look after your bikes for yahs

[NighthawkNZ]

OLD FART ALERT - Go and get yourselves a cardigan each and a Toyota Prius.

I'll look after your bikes for yahs

and if it was your bike parked in one of the yards that got damaged you would be thinking differently

[Jez]

That was the thing, when I was living there we cleared out anything we didnt want to get broken/damaged. My car usually spent the weekend in the free parking down by the railway station, TV went to the girlfriends house, pool table to my uncles ... we KNEW it was undie 500 weekend, we prepared for it.

a few windows were always broken, loss of a door handle here and there, but we fixed them up on monday and carried on with our studies. Maybe we were sensible students, but youd have to say the whole damned street was if that was the case ... and being 10 years older I don't think I could honestly say the exists a street completely full of sensible 18-21 year olds in the world let alone Dunedin ...

[sinned]

I wonder why the Police haven't invested in a Water Cannon Truck? They appear effective at dispersing crowds and cooling everyone down.

[Winston001]

Cripes guys, you've all turned reactionary as you've grown older. They are just students, kids really, having fun centred around an event. Just like Capping.

It's become famous though and people now attend looking for a chance to bait the police. I can't help feeling that if they were ignored, it would calm down.

A few couches burning is pretty innocuous.

[Elysium]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRfluaMKoOY
Maybe the police response should go like this? :laugh:

[NighthawkNZ]

A few couches burning is pretty innocuous.

Well couple of years back when the fire fighters tried to put it out (before police arrived) they had bottles thrown at the firefighters... someone was injured and the ambo was called bottles were thrown at the paramedics...

Police were called and the that is what you saw on tv...

Sorry, but that not innocent fun...

[pete376403]

ok but is burning a couch or two in the street *really* that dangerous that the brigade have to attend?

[McWild]

They don't turn up to supervise believe it or not - they are the (anti) fun police....fan favourites among NZ bikers apparently

Actually I believe the fun police were in one of the cars on the way down.

I saw them leave Uni, all had good moustaches and aviators on. I believe I noticed several of them holding some confiscated alcohol as well!!

Top notch job!


..... wait a minute.....

[NighthawkNZ]

ok but is burning a couch or two in the street *really* that dangerous that the brigade have to attend?

Not every on that lives in the street are students and we someone rings the Fire department, they respond.

[normajeane]

Ah well - it's all fun and games till someone loses an eye

Hey thats my saying!!:angry:

[FJRider]

I wonder why the Police haven't invested in a Water Cannon Truck? They appear effective at dispersing crowds and cooling everyone down.

Might be handy to put out the bonfires in the middle of the streets ...

[normajeane]

ok but is burning a couch or two in the street *really* that dangerous that the brigade have to attend?

And if it gets to burn other things such as people and property?? Well they might as well supervise i guess.:innocent:

[MadDuck]

ok but is burning a couch or two in the street *really* that dangerous that the brigade have to attend?

If the fire is left unattended and takes over innocent peoples homes then I guess the answer would be "yes"?

[normajeane]

If the fire is left unattended and takes over innocent peoples homes then I guess the answer would be "yes"?

No, No, No, No, Yes:wacko:

[FJRider]

If the fire is left unattended and takes over innocent peoples homes then I guess the answer would be "yes"?

Or a drunken student falls into the fire and gets badly burnt ... hey. one did. :innocent:

but just a bit of fun ... all the scar tissue from the burns will look pretty cool. <_<

One student will not look back at the events of last night and laugh. :mellow:

[MadDuck]

Or a drunken student falls into the fire and gets badly burnt ... hey. one did. :innocent:

but just a bit of fun ... all the scar tissue from the burns will look pretty cool. <_<

One student will not look back at the events of last night and laugh. :mellow:

Yes I saw that on the news and I am guessing the taxpayer will be funding this students recovery through ACC?

[normajeane]

Yes I saw that on the news and I am guessing the taxpayer will be funding this students recovery through ACC?

As they do when someone falls over the wall when escaping from the Prison!:shit:

[MadDuck]

As they do when someone falls over the wall when escaping from the Prison!:shit:

Yeah fair call. I hear what you are saying and I am the last to lecture about doing dumb shit in my youth. But this young fella will have scars for life for one nights entertainment.

[short-circuit]

Yeah fair call. I hear what you are saying and I am the last to lecture about doing dumb shit in my youth. But this young fella will have scares for life for one nights entertainment.

And the Undie 500 is to blame? He couldn't have been pissed and being a tosser in any other situation?

[FJRider]

Yes I saw that on the news and I am guessing the taxpayer will be funding this students recovery through ACC?

Not to mention his study for the rest of this year ... and most likely the next as well, will not happen. Not at Uni will mean his student loan stops paying out.

All those arrested were not Canterbury students, but those studying/living in OTAGO.

[NighthawkNZ]

And the Undie 500 is to blame? He couldn't have been pissed and being a tosser in any other situation?


Mob mentality

[FJRider]

And the Undie 500 is to blame? He couldn't have been pissed and being a tosser in any other situation?

Any excuse is better than nothing ... but hey, it was just a bit of fun.

[MadDuck]

And the Undie 500 is to blame? He couldn't have been pissed and being a tosser in any other situation?

Actually I dont think I ever said the Undie 500 was to blame but I am sure you will point out the offending post.

Although....personally I am unaware of any other event in NZ that leads to this kind of behaviour.

[normajeane]

All those arrested were not Canterbury students, but those studying/living in OTAGO.

Wot about those arrested on the way down - Timaru and Oamaru?? Not Otago uni students?:2guns:

[Maha]

Although....personally I am unaware of any other event in NZ that leads to this kind of behaviour.

How many party's have you been too here???......:shifty:

[MadDuck]

How many party's have you been too here???......:shifty:

Damn....takes one to remember. But did we burn couches?

[FJRider]

Wot about those arrested on the way down - Timaru and Oamaru?? Not Otago uni students?:2guns:

The thread was on the "events" of last night in Dunedin ...or so I thought.

[ital916]

Hey people! Lets keep it on topic.....the topic of how best to make the bastards know that bottling people and burning things = an asskicking coming their way, no matter what event or whatever reason you want to come up to justify it.

I'm a student, If I got heniously drunk *which I do get on occassion* and decided to riot and as a consequence copped a rubber bullet and a bit of high pressure water action, I would wake up in the morning and be like...I better not do that again.

Slapping on the wrist with a wet bus ticket does squat.

Run the bastards over with some hummers....with giant spikes on the front and flamethrowers on the roofs. They want to play with fire...then BURN THEM!

[wbks]

hey people! Lets keep it on topic.....the topic of how best to make the bastards know that bottling people and burning things = an asskicking coming their way, no matter what event or whatever reason you want to come up to justify it.

I'm a student, if i got heniously drunk *which i do get on occassion* and decided to riot and as a consequence copped a rubber bullet and a bit of high pressure water action, i would wake up in the morning and be like...i better not do that again.

Slapping on the wrist with a wet bus ticket does squat.

Run the bastards over with some hummers....with giant spikes on the front and flamethrowers on the roofs. They want to play with fire...then burn them!........

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[ital916]

........

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What...hummers too much :confused:

Okay something less drastic...what about sicking the dolphins on them, the ones with laser beam eyes.

[NighthawkNZ]

What...hummers too much :confused:

Okay something less drastic...what about sicking the dolphins on them, the ones with laser beam eyes.

we do have fire breathing Dolphins which is werid since they are under water and all

[Gareth51]

Damn....takes one to remember. But did we burn couches?

Don't know about couches but I do remember lots smoke comming from something burn out, side the garage,and not the Bbq

[Forest]

Although....personally I am unaware of any other event in NZ that leads to this kind of behaviour.

I guess you've never been to the Brass Monkey.

[MadDuck]

I guess you've never been to the Brass Monkey.

Why the hell would I?

[Winston001]

Although....personally I am unaware of any other event in NZ that leads to this kind of behaviour.

The Mount at New Year?

[wbks]

Why the hell would I?So you could be aware of other events in NZ that lead to this kind of behavior?

[Swoop]

Or a drunken student falls into the fire and gets badly burnt ... hey. one did. :innocent:

but just a bit of fun ... all the scar tissue from the burns will look pretty cool. <_<

One student will not look back at the events of last night and laugh. :mellow:
To think. These are the future leaders of the nation. Doctors. Lawyers. Dentists.

:wacko:

[Winston001]

To think. These are the future leaders of the nation. Doctors. Lawyers. Dentists.

:wacko:

Yes it's heartening isn't it. :2thumbsup: Thank goodness they show a bit of spirit and daring. Much better than the dry academic students who live in the libraries. :crazy:

[Ixion]

Yes it's heartening isn't it. :2thumbsup: Thank goodness they show a bit of spirit and daring. Much better than the dry academic students who live in the libraries. :crazy:

I agree. Good to see that the old spirit is still alive dahn Sarf. Auckland Uni is totally po-faced nowadays.

[FJRider]

To think. These are the future leaders of the nation. Doctors. Lawyers. Dentists.

:wacko:

I personally believe that Darwin's theory's are correct.


Some things are best learnt at a early age.... age 18 is not early.

[MattRSK]

If Peter Chin wasn't so arrogant all this could have been avoided.

[Winston001]

If Peter Chin wasn't so arrogant all this could have been avoided.

???? Its all Peter Chin's fault? Students get together, drink too much, burn a few couches.......but the Mayor is really to blame? We did this stuff in the 1970s but I can't recall him exhorting us on.......

[JimO]

If Peter Chin wasn't so arrogant all this could have been avoided.

how?????Peter Chin is doing his job of running the city and representing the majority of the inhabitants, i dont think he was down there lighting fires etc personally i couldnt give a shit if the students burnt the whole Castle/Dundas block out at least it would give the builders something to do, my boys play club hockey with students and i have to say i hant met one i didnt like, all nice kids but get a few grogs down their necks and i bet things are different BUT Otago Uni markets itself as a party uni so they have to take what comes with that.....years ago they used to have skyrocket fights with each other, when you have thousands of young people living in a compressed area they are going to have a party, its become a tradition to burn couches etc add to that the non students that turn up to cause trouble

[MattRSK]

???? Its all Peter Chin's fault? Students get together, drink too much, burn a few couches.......but the Mayor is really to blame? We did this stuff in the 1970s but I can't recall him exhorting us on.......

The UCSA and ENSOC spent months organizing alternatives to the event but all were turned down flat by Peter Chin.

[MattRSK]

Also a complete overreaction from the police.

[MattRSK]

What are they training police to do?


Drunk student mouthing off at you = baton to the face/ pepper spray.

Completely mis-handled police showing very poor judgement.

[Kickaha]

What are they training police to do?


Drunk student mouthing off at you = baton to the face/ pepper spray.

Completely mis-handled police showing very poor judgement.


Yeah cause all the students showed such outstanding judgement :lol:

Good job to, the only thing the Police did wrong was not setting dogs on them

[scumdog]

If Peter Chin wasn't so arrogant all this could have been avoided.

Right-on, that's the way!

It's the 21st Century - it's ALWAYS 'somebody elses fault nowadays.....

[FJRider]

The UCSA and ENSOC spent months organizing alternatives to the event but all were turned down flat by Peter Chin.

Do you believe the end result to those "alternitive events" would be any different to those results of the past few nights ???

[scumdog]

What are they training police to do?


Drunk student mouthing off at you = baton to the face/ pepper spray.

Completely mis-handled police showing very poor judgement.

It's a learning thing.

Students learned pepper-spray fuckin' hurts!:woohoo::killingme:rofl:

[FJRider]

It's a learning thing.

Students learned pepper-spray fuckin' hurts!:woohoo::killingme:rofl:

Gotta be softer than the "end product" of a Glock ....

[FJRider]

It's a learning thing.

Students learned pepper-spray fuckin' hurts!:woohoo::killingme:rofl:

They learn to abuse cops ... from the back .... :whistle:

[Kickaha]

Gotta be softer than the "end product" of a Glock ....

They should be using bean bags (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_baton_round)on them, then batons, pepper spray and dogs while they are down

[Elysium]

At the end of the day those arrested will most likely end up with a crimminal record. Now I aint no student bum so does having a crimminal record affect your loans and Uni exams?

[scumdog]

They should be using bean bags (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_baton_round)on them, then batons, pepper spray and dogs while they are down

Meh, not a nice look when somebody gets shot with what was meant to be a bean-bag load - only it turns out it was buck-shot.:eek5:

THAT is why the bean-bag shotguns are now painted green (or sometimes white) in the US.

[FJRider]

At the end of the day those arrested will most likely end up with a crimminal record. Now I aint no student bum so does having a crimminal record affect your loans and Uni exams?

They restrict travel overseas ... You can't get a job in some countrys if they wont let you in.

International (and some/most) companies wont hire those with criminal convictions. Hard and fast company policy's ... no exceptions.

Which leaves some with qualifications ... and no job to go to. And a large loan to pay off.

[Virago]

Also a complete overreaction from the police.

Exactly.

All the students were doing was peacefully going about their lawful business of destroying property, arson, and attacking anyone who dared to attempt to stop them.

The police had no business getting involved, eh? :yawn:

[JimO]

from what i saw in the news students standing in their own property were pepersprayed, they didnt look to worked up to me the police on the other hand did, if you are standing on your own property watching procedings can the cops spray/assult you without a reason. If they use film footage to prosecute students hopefully the same footage will catch a few cops as well.

[Virago]

from what i saw in the news students standing in their own property were pepersprayed, they didnt look to worked up to me the police on the other hand did, if you are standing on your own property watching procedings can the cops spray/assult you without a reason...

Without a reason? That's where the bottles were being thrown from.

[JimO]

Without a reason? That's where the bottles were being thrown from.

are you sure? A student friend of my son was telling me today that on friday night he was walking from town after working to unicol where he lives, totally sober was stopped by some cops and told to fuck off back down where he came from, he told them i live over there and just want to get there about 100 meters away on Clyde St, they wouldnt let him past so he walked back down the road and waited until they left, then went home. he reckoned they were itching for a excuse to arrest him......they sound like a couple of arseholes to me. Im not anti cop or pro student (having owned student flats) but it looked to me like the cops were having to much fun

[scumdog]

he told them i live over there and just want to get there about 100 meters away on Clyde St,

At times like this EVERYBODY lives 'just over there' 'I need to get to my flat/meds whatever' - well a shitload say that in hope they will be allowed through, whether to just be nosey or create mayhem..

Which penalises those that really do live nearby.

[Pussy]

At times like this EVERYBODY lives 'just over there' 'I need to get to my flat/meds whatever' - well a shitload say that in hope they will be allowed through, whether to just be nosey or create mayhem..

Which penalises those that really do live nearby.

Tazer and pepper spray them anyway, Scummy! :niceone:

[Kickaha]

Tazer and pepper spray them anyway, Scummy! :niceone:

Dogs, they need Dogs, big hungry Dogs with sharp teeth

[Pussy]

Dogs, they need Dogs, big hungry Dogs with sharp teeth

Yeah.... rabid Dobermanns!

[Winston001]

What are they training police to do?


Drunk student mouthing off at you = baton to the face/ pepper spray.

Completely mis-handled police showing very poor judgement.

Frankly I think the police should have stayed away and let the students wear themselves out waiting for excitement which never arrived.

However, all the commentary I've read and the video footage show the police as being very restrained. If the police have to break up a mob (whether we agree with that judgement or not) we should expect them to do so. Getting a bottle in the face is no longer in the category of innocent fun.

Why not use water cannon? Rubber bullets are a bit rough but a few cannisters of tear gas would have dispersed this group of mainly middle-class kids. Pepper spray is pretty low end.

[Winston001]

At the end of the day those arrested will most likely end up with a crimminal record. Now I aint no student bum so does having a crimminal record affect your loans and Uni exams?

Depends upon the conviction. If it is serious the University can expell the student. This may have happened after past events.

Can make your career path a bit rocky. The Medical Association and the Law Society aren't too keen, no doubt dentistry, optometry, health sciences, maybe some branches of engineering etc would refuse or defer professional entry. Any job which requires public trust, confidence and fidelity, is going to look hard at criminal convictions.

Still, depositing dangerous litter (dropping a beer bottle) isn't going to really be a problem. Plus we now have the namby pamby Clean Slate act so after 7 years you can deny everything.

[MattRSK]

Exactly.

All the students were doing was peacefully going about their lawful business of destroying property, arson, and attacking anyone who dared to attempt to stop them.

The police had no business getting involved, eh? :yawn:

I guess what I am trying to say is that it could have been avoided long before the undie 500 even started. The initial plan was to not even go into Dunedin but have a concert outside of Dunedin in a field.

The events that have happened are disgusting, I am in no way condoning people throwing bottles at police or destroying other peoples property. I just think that it was inevitable because of a number of people not connected with the university ruining it and nothing being done to prevent the situation.

The riots happened last year, and the year before that and most likely will happen again if alternatives are not sought. Alternatives were brought up but flatly denied so meh. Immature drunk people being provoked by large police presence.

[FJRider]

Depends upon the conviction. If it is serious the University can expell the student. This may have happened after past events.

Can make your career path a bit rocky. The Medical Association and the Law Society aren't too keen, no doubt dentistry, optometry, health sciences, maybe some branches of engineering etc would refuse or defer professional entry. Any job which requires public trust, confidence and fidelity, is going to look hard at criminal convictions.

Still, depositing dangerous litter (dropping a beer bottle) isn't going to really be a problem. Plus we now have the namby pamby Clean Slate act so after 7 years you can deny everything.

Assulting a police officer with a weapon(a beer bottle), arson, inciting a riot, resisting arrest, to name a few charges that will be laid. serious enough charges ... hardly the ones mentioned on any lawyers CV.

[oldrider]

Depends upon the conviction. If it is serious the University can expell the student. This may have happened after past events.

Can make your career path a bit rocky. The Medical Association and the Law Society aren't too keen, no doubt dentistry, optometry, health sciences, maybe some branches of engineering etc would refuse or defer professional entry. Any job which requires public trust, confidence and fidelity, is going to look hard at criminal convictions.

Still, depositing dangerous litter (dropping a beer bottle) isn't going to really be a problem. Plus we now have the namby pamby Clean Slate act so after 7 years you can deny everything.

Won't make one iota of difference to them, it will all be down as high spirited student behaviour, it's expected of them! Tsk tsk, sigh! :spanking:

That's the culture that causes it, each new lot has to go one better! :doh: It's called "progress"! :first: class :tugger: (IMHO)

The original concept of the "undie 500" was a practical and worthwhile project! (may even still be, if you can differentiate it from the crap)

[Swoop]

Yeah.... rabid Dobermanns!
I think that is a bit harsh.
The dog might catch a disease off a filthy, unwashed student...

[fatzx10r]

should just burn the uni to the ground, then all the students would fuck off. problem solved :niceone:

[Flatcap]

The original concept of the "undie 500" was a practical and worthwhile project! (may even still be, if you can differentiate it from the crap)

In my day it was know as the UNDER 500, the undie 500 was a sprint through the square in your gruds

[Elysium]

Well looks like the police will be charging 67 of the idiots. Should make them clean up the cities rubbish and graffiti.

[NighthawkNZ]

should just burn the uni to the ground, then all the students would fuck off. problem solved :niceone:

yup... and an old building anyway... ;)

[JimO]

should just burn the uni to the ground, then all the students would fuck off. problem solved :niceone:

well that would finish Dunedin off, the students and the Uni pour millions into Dunedins economy and we need them. They are all paying rent in some cases a old shithole in the uni area is returning $700 to $1000 a week, they eat and drink in dunedins bars and resturants, they play sport and most senior sports and rep teams are made up of students, Dunedin basically closes down when they are away at xmas. Hundreds of tradesmen are employed doing up the old dumps they live in. saying the problem would be solved if the students fucked off is wrong....all you guys slagging off the students obviously never did anything stupid, I have attended parties where bottles were thrown, people drank to much and behaved badly when i was young and there wernt any uni students there to blame, The student area is a couple of kilometers of highly populated heavily built up area with in some cases 20 young people living in what would be a residential size section add alcahol and you have a massive party im surprised it doesnt happen every weekend

[JimO]

What would happen if the cops decided to turn up at a big bike rally wearing their riot gear pepperspraying people they concidered to be acting up. That wouldnt go down well, the only difference is the students were on public streets but some bike rallys are on public land. as i said in a earlier post i dont condone what went on but the cops could have handled it differently, a freind of mine was a good friend of one of the "top" cops in Dunners when he was a teenager and he was a real loose unit, perhaps he has forgotten what he got up to

[lb99]

being from dunedin myself, I have seen and maybe been involved in the odd "riot"

I think an easy solution would be to block the ends of the street off, not let anyone in or out, let the party blow itself out

a burning couch in the middle of the road is NOT an immediate hazzard, these guys are not stupid, they wont burn their houses down.

maybe chuck an ambo at each end too, the more onto it ones would drag out any injuries im sure.

in the hyde street 96 riot, they had a street party, then the cops turned up at one end, with the fire brigade and hoses at the other, everyone had a ball (most wound up with a bruise or two)

[oldrider]

In my day it was know as the UNDER 500, the undie 500 was a sprint through the square in your gruds

From what I can see the actual undie 500 team were very well behaved and were parked up in a controlled fashion quite early.

Their event apparently was a successfully accomplished!

The "ugly 500" on the other hand carried on for two nights creating mayhem where ever and however they could.

I don't think that the two activities appear to be really related.

Watching the TV1 news tonight, it appears to me that the police and the Dunedin Mayor (Chin) are blaming the wrong event and the wrong people!

For once in my life I have to say that the Students Union representative from Otago university made the most sense!

I think I agree with the Canterbury Chancellor too!

It is Otago University and the Dunedin police that own the problem and they need to get their act together and take responsibility for the problem!

Only then will they be able to clean up the "Otago university" "ugly 500" act, once and for all!

[scumdog]

a burning couch in the middle of the road is NOT an immediate hazzard, these guys are not stupid, they wont burn their houses down.


O yeah?

but at least then it would not be the fault of the 'authorities'....:pinch:

Or wouldn't it???:whistle:

[duckonin]

What would happen if the cops decided to turn up at a big bike rally wearing their riot gear pepperspraying people they concidered to be acting up. That wouldnt go down well, the only difference is the students were on public streets but some bike rallys are on public land. as i said in a earlier post i dont condone what went on but the cops could have handled it differently, a freind of mine was a good friend of one of the "top" cops in Dunners when he was a teenager and he was a real loose unit, perhaps he has forgotten what he got up to

From the rallys we have been to there would be no need for the cops, if a bunch started to fuck up it would be sorted quick as...In saying that we all go to socialize and enjoy the time, not go with the intention to create others grief...

[ital916]

Seeing as so many seem opposed to bean bags, rubber bullets and tazers being used on students....that leaves only one effective solution.......rubber ball claymores (the kind they use outside embassies).

[SMOKEU]

Watching the TV1 news tonight, it appears to me that the police and the Dunedin Mayor (Chin) are blaming the wrong event and the wrong people!



That's nothing new, at least the media have stopped picking on 'boy racers' for now.

[ital916]

a burning couch in the middle of the road is NOT an immediate hazzard, these guys are not stupid, they wont burn their houses down.

maybe chuck an ambo at each end too, the more onto it ones would drag out any injuries im sure.



You give the cess pit that is todays youth too much credit. I know, why dont the police throw some crips and bloods into the riot, high on meths with some samurai swords. That way they save on pepper spray.......ooh using cultural minorities (or the way nz youth is going - majorities) as weapons....imagine the pc brigade hearing bout that.:eek::spanking:

[fatzx10r]

the only difference is the students were on public streets

well there you go, they could just hold it somewhere else. get it off the streets and there wont be much of a problem ay.

[wbks]

You give the cess pit that is todays youth too much credit. I know, why dont the police throw some crips and bloods into the riot, high on meths with some samurai swords. That way they save on pepper spray.......ooh using cultural minorities (or the way nz youth is going - majorities) as weapons....imagine the pc brigade hearing bout that.:eek::spanking:Someone gave people like you too much credit when they made the internet publicly available

[NighthawkNZ]

the only difference is the students were on public streets

And there you have it you have answered and solved your own conundrum.



but some bike rallys are on public land.

With clearance for the various councils and usually supported by the locals...

[Virago]

...I think an easy solution would be to block the ends of the street off, not let anyone in or out, let the party blow itself out...

Just bad luck for those other residents in the street, though, eh...?

And all the property owners whose homes are wrecked in the frenzy of mindless vandalism...?


...these guys are not stupid, they wont burn their houses down...

Perhaps you can tell that to the owners of a block of flats in Castle Street, whose tenants were ripping the gib-board off the walls to use as fuel for the fires...?

Not stupid? Gib-board doesn't burn...

[scumdog]

From the rallys we have been to there would be no need for the cops, if a bunch started to fuck up it would be sorted quick as...In saying that we all go to socialize and enjoy the time, not go with the intention to create others grief...

Perzactly!:niceone:

[scumdog]

well there you go, they could just hold it somewhere else. get it off the streets and there wont be much of a problem ay.

So why don't the organisers do just that I wonder??

[NighthawkNZ]

Not stupid? Gib-board doesn't burn...

the paper layer holding together does...

[Virago]

the paper layer holding together does...

Shouldn't you be working on a certain database...? :spanking: :laugh:

[FJRider]

So why don't the organisers do just that I wonder??

I heard its difficult to have a good riot, on a private property ... :innocent:

[FJRider]

With clearance for the various councils and usually supported by the locals...

Thousands of leather clad bikers can get permission to gather on public land to get drunk and ... (censored) :jerry: , but university students with a supposed high IQ.... and limited funds (tomorrows leaders)... cannot. :no:

How times have changed ... :blank:

[NighthawkNZ]

Thousands of leather clad bikers can get permission to gather on public land to get drunk and ... (censored) :jerry: , but university students with a supposed high IQ.... and limited funds (tomorrows leaders)... cannot. :no:

How times have changed ... :blank:

weird huh... ;)

Well the bikers in that one weekend usually put money back into the community, at the pub, cafes and bars... etc... a few even shop...

But students seem to destroy things and start fires, and fights in the street that gets the mass mob mentality behind it...

The whole picture does not look good... and the whole picture is more than just the students and some alcohol... and its going to get worse before it gets any better

[FJRider]

weird huh... ;)

Well the bikers in that one weekend usually put money back into the community, at the pub, cafes and bars... etc... a few even shop...

But students seem to destroy things and start fires, and fights in the street that gets the mass mob mentality behind it...

The whole picture does not look good... and the whole picture is more than just the students and some alcohol... and its going to get worse before it gets any better

Perhaps the Biker image is not as bad as some (Bikers) may believe ...

[NighthawkNZ]

Perhaps the Biker image is not as bad as some (Bikers) may believe ...

Perhaps ;)

[JimO]

Just bad luck for those other residents in the street, though, eh...?

And all the property owners whose homes are wrecked in the frenzy of mindless vandalism...?



Perhaps you can tell that to the owners of a block of flats in Castle Street, whose tenants were ripping the gib-board off the walls to use as fuel for the fires...?

Not stupid? Gib-board doesn't burn...

i doubt there are many "normal" people live in the student area

[ital916]

Someone gave people like you too much credit when they made the internet publicly available

dont be a hater, wus jus takin da piss mister *sniff*

If I was to be serious, I would say the solution to the problem has to be three pronged. The police need to find the balance on the amount of pressure they apply to student during the night.

The mayor and his council need to realise in a student town fuelled by alcohol they need sheperd the nastier element instead of trying to eradicate them as they will just go underground. The idea of a concert in a remote area was a interesting one.

Finally the students themselves need to realise that certain behaviour kills it for others and for themselves, most obviously the setting of fires and overturning of vehicles coupled with the throwing of objects.

The hardest part will be getting the students on board I reckon. As for the police, they didnt use too much force in my opinion, yes they used copious amounts of pepper spray but the students who got sprayed will live.

[Berries]

Given all the life draining bullshit, gibberish and wank being spoken about the election on KB here's something to take your mind off it.

Needed a laugh. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10531207/Student-costumes-offensive-to-everyone)

IPENZ response. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10534824/Ipenz-condemns-engineering-students-over-RoUndie-500)

[JimO]

holy thread dredge batman