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Crasherfromwayback
14th September 2009, 10:15
Bout time we took a chicky on board here at Wellington Motorcycles in our well busy spares and acc division.
Any keen punters get hold of me!
Pete
pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz
Trudes
14th September 2009, 11:17
How many hours a week would that be Pete? Is it full-tme?
rosie631
14th September 2009, 11:21
Would be my dream job. Surrounded by bikes all day. Unfortunately I'm in Christchurch. Bugger.
MIXONE
14th September 2009, 11:33
Would be my dream job. Surrounded by bikes all day. Unfortunately I'm in Christchurch. Bugger.
+1 except instead of Chchur I don't qualify because I've got a penis.:eek:
Crasherfromwayback
14th September 2009, 11:33
How many hours a week would that be Pete? Is it full-tme?
8 - 5.30 weekdays...and 9-3 Sat!
rosie631
14th September 2009, 11:37
+1 except instead of Chchur I don't qualify because I've got a penis.:eek:
LOL I guess I could always move but i think you're buggered
MIXONE
14th September 2009, 11:43
LOL I guess I could always move but i think you're buggered
Yep.I love bikes but not enough to get the big knife out.:no:
bistard
14th September 2009, 11:46
Bout time we took a chicky on board here at Wellington Motorcycles in our well busy spares and acc division.
Any keen punters get hold of me!
Pete
pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz
So why does it have to be a chick??
You arent feeling lonely again,are you Pete
Crazy Steve
14th September 2009, 11:49
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeow !!!
Just started looking for a new job this morning......So currently hunting for a XXL dress.....:eek:
Crazy Steve.
Crasherfromwayback
14th September 2009, 11:51
So why does it have to be a chick??
You arent feeling lonely again,are you Pete
Purely think it's nice to have a female avail seeing as there are now so many females riding.
I'm never lonely mate...quite happy *entertaining* myself!
Stirts
14th September 2009, 13:51
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeow !!!
Just started looking for a new job this morning......So currently hunting for a XXL dress.....:eek:
Crazy Steve.
Don't forget to pick up some leg wax, and if your dress is uber short get some bikini wax also. :yes:
crazyhorse
14th September 2009, 13:57
Purely think it's nice to have a female avail seeing as there are now so many females riding.
Excellent thought. Think its a great idea :first:
MyGSXF
14th September 2009, 14:01
Would be my dream job. Surrounded by bikes all day. Unfortunately I'm in Christchurch. Bugger.
Meee tooo... xcept I'm in :sunny: Nelson :crybaby:
Danae
15th September 2009, 00:41
An 8 hour commute isn't really ideal. ]: Sad because I really need a job!!
Ooky
15th September 2009, 00:45
An 8 hour commute isn't really ideal. ]: Sad because I really need a job!!
but 8 hours each way 16 hours on our bike a day! sounds sweet! just cant sleep i guess:niceone:
prettybillie
16th September 2009, 11:01
Bout time we took a chicky on board here at Wellington Motorcycles in our well busy spares and acc division.
Any keen punters get hold of me!
Pete
pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz
Rats - why can't you be in Auckland :girlfight:
White trash
16th September 2009, 11:54
All you ladies commenting about the fact it aint in Auckland need to pull your socks up and make the move.
Honestly can't think of a better job for a (true) bike enthusiast. I know, I've done it. Absolutely best team in NZ to work with, no question. Awesome work enviroment. Great cross section of customers.
And McDonald is the funniest mother fucker on the plannet to work with.
Get your shit together, email your CVs through.
Crasherfromwayback
16th September 2009, 12:51
All you ladies commenting about the fact it aint in Auckland need to pull your socks up and make the move.
Honestly can't think of a better job for a (true) bike enthusiast. I know, I've done it. Absolutely best team in NZ to work with, no question. Awesome work enviroment. Great cross section of customers.
And McDonald is the funniest mother fucker on the plannet to work with.
Get your shit together, email your CVs through.
Awwww shucks mate...fanks. I thought I was the only c*nt that thought I was funny!
Pussy
16th September 2009, 17:35
You forgot the "must be able to make a decent cup of coffee" part of the job description, Pete!
sondela
16th September 2009, 19:41
All you ladies commenting about the fact it aint in Auckland
I'm not complaining cause it's not in Auckland, I'm complaining cause its not in Christchurch!!! :(
_STAIN_
16th September 2009, 19:46
so who's got the, short dress wearing job ?
Oakie
16th September 2009, 21:13
I don't qualify because I've got a penis.:eek:
The Human Rights Act would suggest otherwise. Now where did I put my halo?
prettybillie
17th September 2009, 18:41
All you ladies commenting about the fact it aint in Auckland need to pull your socks up and make the move.
Honestly can't think of a better job for a (true) bike enthusiast. I know, I've done it. Absolutely best team in NZ to work with, no question. Awesome work enviroment. Great cross section of customers.
And McDonald is the funniest mother fucker on the plannet to work with.
Get your shit together, email your CVs through.
Yeah unfortunately it's not that easy with mortgages, kids, partners with jobs here and everything else that goes with trying to make ends meet in this day and age.
Tell ya what - if I was young free and ready to mingle I would pack up my little car and I would be off! And seriously I would totally get the job as I'm known for getting my tits out :lol::2thumbsup:lol::hug::lol:
Madness
17th September 2009, 18:49
I'm known for getting my tits out
I don't believe you.
Trudes
17th September 2009, 18:52
So that's why I miss out on the good jobs, I only ever get my cockatiels out. ;)
doc
17th September 2009, 18:57
And seriously I would totally get the job as I'm known for getting my tits out :lol::2thumbsup:lol::hug::lol:
I know its boring but without the pics its not true.
prettybillie
17th September 2009, 19:03
I know its boring but without the pics its not true.
Oh my friend - there are many many photos around. You're obviously not hanging out at the tracks I do hahaha
prettybillie
17th September 2009, 19:04
So that's why I miss out on the good jobs, I only ever get my cockatiels out. ;)
You should try it - the boys back your trailer for you too :lol::lol::lol:
Trudes
17th September 2009, 19:15
You should try it - the boys back your trailer for you too :lol::lol::lol:
Nah, I can back my own trailer.
jafar
17th September 2009, 19:25
Tell ya what - if I was young free and ready to mingle :lol::2thumbsup:lol::hug::lol:
So your old cheap & a recluse???:argh:
thecharmed01
18th September 2009, 00:24
Man if only I didnt have a baby at home I'd be keen as LOL
prettybillie
18th September 2009, 08:58
So your old cheap & a recluse???:argh:
Pretty much :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :(
paddy
18th September 2009, 09:37
I would be so very careful stating that you are looking for a female employee in such a public forum. You could get yourself in all sorts of legal trouble. I'm no lawyer, but I would think you are probably better just to advertise broadly and then hire a female because she was the "best candidate for the role" (setting aside gender of course). :-)
It's a nice idea though. There's a mix on the road - why not in the store. Mt. Eden Motorcycles is the only place that I've seen girls up here.
Crasherfromwayback
18th September 2009, 09:48
I would be so very careful stating that you are looking for a female employee in such a public forum. You could get yourself in all sorts of legal trouble. I'm no lawyer, but I would think you are probably better just to advertise broadly and then hire a female because she was the "best candidate for the role" (setting aside gender of course). :-)
It's a nice idea though. There's a mix on the road - why not in the store. Mt. Eden Motorcycles is the only place that I've seen girls up here.
Appreciate the thought...but I was only putting the idea out there..not doing the hiring!
klingon
18th September 2009, 09:52
I would be so very careful stating that you are looking for a female employee in such a public forum. You could get yourself in all sorts of legal trouble. I'm no lawyer, but I would think you are probably better just to advertise broadly and then hire a female because she was the "best candidate for the role" (setting aside gender of course). :-)
It's a nice idea though. There's a mix on the road - why not in the store. Mt. Eden Motorcycles is the only place that I've seen girls up here.
Good point, paddy.
On the other hand if they could argue that one of the key jobs of the "chicky" would be to help/advise other chickies who are trying on gear, then surely they would have an argument that they need a woman on staff?
I mean not every woman would feel comfortable going to buy bike gear in a shop with all male staff.
"Here ya go love, squeeze your buns into these tight leather pants!" :oi-grr:
Goblin
18th September 2009, 09:59
"Here ya go love, squeeze your buns into these tight leather pants!" :oi-grr:I can just see Pete saying that! :laugh:
Crasherfromwayback
18th September 2009, 10:15
I can just see Pete saying that! :laugh:
Nope...more like get em out!
klingon
18th September 2009, 10:19
I can just see Pete saying that! :laugh:
Nope...more like get em out!
I rest my case!
Crasherfromwayback
18th September 2009, 10:23
I rest my case!
Just as well I'm in bike sales instead of acc then!
paddy
18th September 2009, 12:07
Good point, paddy.
On the other hand if they could argue that one of the key jobs of the "chicky" would be to help/advise other chickies who are trying on gear, then surely they would have an argument that they need a woman on staff?
I mean not every woman would feel comfortable going to buy bike gear in a shop with all male staff.
"Here ya go love, squeeze your buns into these tight leather pants!" :oi-grr:
I totally concede you point and I can see a lot of value in what you are saying, but unfortunately the law doesn't agree. An employer is not allowed to discriminate based on gender or age.
While it might seem safe posting in the women's forum, it's not here that the issue will come from. It will be some 18yo twerp that wants to work in a bike store so he can buy cheap bits. He's useless so you don't hire him, but then he lodges complaint stating that he read in KB that you were looking for a woman. He's totally unsuitable for the role - but all of a sudden that is beside the point.
A better approach would be to advertise the role without gender inference, but place those advertisements in areas that target women (for example this thread). Then hire a woman based on their qualification for the job (retail experience, friendly, good culture fit, etcetera.). Even if it is a consideration in the back of your mind, gender (and age) must not be a criteria in this decision.
On the other hand, if the original poster was saying "Hey, my work is advertising this non-gender specific role but I think it would be great if some of you women that I happen to know on-line applied" then that is an entirely different matter.
Rainman knows a lot more about this stuff that me if he is lurking about...
ckai
18th September 2009, 16:14
I totally concede you point and I can see a lot of value in what you are saying, but unfortunately the law doesn't agree. An employer is not allowed to discriminate based on gender or age...
Na screw that, a person would have to be a real asshole if they complained about someone on here who was genuine in their request for certain reasons. And that's the only way anyone would get in the shit for it, if someone complained. I would give them shit.
On a legal point of view, you can offer the job to a certain corner of society if you have reason to do so like Klingon said. It's the same case if you wanted a bra-fitter, little-person wrestler, or big fat guy for Vespa ad. If you have genuine reason, you can specify.
IF on the other hand, it is a non-specific role i.e. nude model, digger driver, plumber, laundry (sorry that one is gender specific ;)) then you will get you ass kicked by the powers that be.
In this case, nice work Pete bloody good idea.
Of course, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from an employer who looked at employment law in my uni days, that's how I have always seen it.
But anyway Pete, any bites? The wife would love this job if we didn't live in the "boring capital" of NZ.
paddy
19th September 2009, 14:02
I know I shouldn't because I didn't want to start a big argument, but I just wanted to respond to what ckai has said. Then my lips shall be sealed. This thread is being dragged WAY off-topic from my original "just be careful" post.
Na screw that, a person would have to be a real asshole if they complained about someone on here who was genuine in their request for certain reasons. And that's the only way anyone would get in the shit for it, if someone complained. I would give them shit.
This would definitely not be my position. I think it would be great if he hired a woman. (So please don't feel the need to "yell" back at me.) I am just trying to highlight what the laws states and caution "Pete" as to exactly how he goes about hiring that woman. You are obviously a reasonable person BUT there are plenty out there in the world that are not. Unfortunately it's not you that they would complain to, it's the ERA so you "giving them s**t" would have little bearing (and probably just further complicate things). At that point the outcome of that process almost doesn't matter - the process itself would be a nightmare to someone trying to run a business.
On a legal point of view, you can offer the job to a certain corner of society if you have reason to do so like Klingon said. It's the same case if you wanted a bra-fitter, little-person wrestler, or big fat guy for Vespa ad. If you have genuine reason, you can specify.
IF on the other hand, it is a non-specific role i.e. nude model, digger driver, plumber, laundry (sorry that one is gender specific ;)) then you will get you ass kicked by the powers that be.
Employment law isn't my particular area of expertise; however, the Human Rights Act (1993) and the Employment Relations Act (2000), read together, prevent discrimination on many grounds including gender, age, religious affiliation, marital status, etcetera.
The Employment Relations Act provides for limited exceptions to these criteria where a particular criteria is a "genuine" qualification for a given job. For example, you must be over 18 to serve alcohol. I am _extremely_ confident that working in a motorcycle parts/accessories store would not pass this test. Even using the examples given above you are really only dealing with outerwear. I agree, women may well be more comfortable without a male saying "slip you buns into that love", but that case is addressed in sexual harassment law and not employment law. You are unable to discriminate against a male nurse. Or a male midwife for that matter. Both of these settings being considerably more "intimate" that retail sales.
As an aside, it is also worth noting that where such discrimination is founded by a senior staff member the employer may be considered vicariously liable.
There is plenty of case law around this - unfortunately I don't have access to Brookers or LexisNexis off hand to cite any. Again I will bow out now. I wasn't trying to start a law debate. I was just trying to say be careful. By all means hire a woman, just don't say that's what you are doing in a public forum.
Over and out. :-)
thecharmed01
20th September 2009, 00:14
Correct me if I am wrong, but the poster in this thread has stated reasonably clearly (or so I thought) that he is NOT the person doing the hiring.....
So you guys can argue employment law all you like, its completely irrelevant as the person who posted this missive has nothing to do with who gets hired.
It appears he was merely trying to drum up female applicants....
You can only legally challenge his claim if he was in fact the person doing the hiring/firing......
You guys need to read the thread before you get argumentative.... LOL
davebullet
20th September 2009, 07:06
The law is an arse. It is easy to work around anyway when recruiting. I've never had anyone challenge my reasoning for declining their application.... infact very few people call back and ask why.
Women riders are a fast growing sector of the market. A great idea that many women riders would appreciate the opportunity for employ and create a differentiator for your shop, attracting more potential buyers.
jafar
21st September 2009, 17:13
Correct me if I am wrong, but the poster in this thread has stated reasonably clearly (or so I thought) that he is NOT the person doing the hiring.....
So you guys can argue employment law all you like, its completely irrelevant as the person who posted this missive has nothing to do with who gets hired.
It appears he was merely trying to drum up female applicants....
You can only legally challenge his claim if he was in fact the person doing the hiring/firing......
You guys need to read the thread before you get argumentative.... LOL
You are wrong , the poster is known to be a senior member of staff & has expressed a want for a female for the parts counter, this could be read as a company policy. If some pimple faced boy applied & didn't get the job then HE could then use this thread in a suit against the company.
thecharmed01
21st September 2009, 17:44
Senior staff member does not constitute company owner, nor does it imply company policy in any way.
Since you want to argue, this is a discussion forum whereby it is quite arguable that any expressed comments made by a personal user account are merely the opinion of the poster and could be argued that they should in no way be taken as any official company policy unless they are made by an account owned and run by the owner of the said business.
One would also argue (from the owners point of view) that the business owner could have no idea what his staff are posting, so how can you hold the business accountable.
A business owner cannot reasonably be expected to control every action of every staff member all of the time.
If personal forum accounts owned by EMPLOYEES were held accountable for business reasons then a lot of people online would be in a lot of legal trouble daily.......
prettybillie
21st September 2009, 19:26
Come on let's not all get legal and stuff. Let's just say CFWB is a perv and wanted some boobs around the office....nothing wrong with that :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
jafar
21st September 2009, 21:17
Senior staff member does not constitute company owner, nor does it imply company policy in any way.
Since you want to argue, this is a discussion forum whereby it is quite arguable that any expressed comments made by a personal user account are merely the opinion of the poster and could be argued that they should in no way be taken as any official company policy unless they are made by an account owned and run by the owner of the said business.
One would also argue (from the owners point of view) that the business owner could have no idea what his staff are posting, so how can you hold the business accountable.
A business owner cannot reasonably be expected to control every action of every staff member all of the time.
If personal forum accounts owned by EMPLOYEES were held accountable for business reasons then a lot of people online would be in a lot of legal trouble daily.......
As it is posted by someone senior within the company it could be used against the company, that the post is put up by someone other than the owner is of no real consequence as it shows an intent to hire based on the sex of the applicant !!
While the owner cannot be expected to know what his employees post on a forum in their own time that doesn't alter the fact that a MALE who THINKS he might have been able to fulfill the role could conceivably take the employer to court for hiring A FEMALE. As was stated previously(by someone else) there are laws against discrimination & stating a preference for a female is getting close to the edge.......:2guns:
All of this is matters not UNLESS someone objects & places a claim that they didn't get the job because of their sex.:done:
thecharmed01
21st September 2009, 21:43
As it is posted by someone senior within the company it could be used against the company, that the post is put up by someone other than the owner is of no real consequence as it shows an intent to hire based on the sex of the applicant !!
While the owner cannot be expected to know what his employees post on a forum in their own time that doesn't alter the fact that a MALE who THINKS he might have been able to fulfill the role could conceivably take the employer to court for hiring A FEMALE. As was stated previously(by someone else) there are laws against discrimination & stating a preference for a female is getting close to the edge.......:2guns:
All of this is matters not UNLESS someone objects & places a claim that they didn't get the job because of their sex.:done:
As an employer myself, with 18 staff (much less now that we sold 5 stores) I beg to disagree.
Only if I as the employer was to make a claim for such would I be liable for it....
We have actually been through something quite similar (albeit with our staff touting for a male staff member) and it was ruled in our favour as although a manager was asking for a male staff member, we, the owners/employers were not. Therefore it was thrown out of the employment court as we the owners cannot be held liable for our staff's request - especially when they took into account that the staff member in question had no final say in the hiring process.
jafar
21st September 2009, 21:53
As an employer myself, with 18 staff (much less now that we sold 5 stores) I beg to disagree.
Only if I as the employer was to make a claim for such would I be liable for it....
We have actually been through something quite similar (albeit with our staff touting for a male staff member) and it was ruled in our favour as although a manager was asking for a male staff member, we, the owners/employers were not. Therefore it was thrown out of the employment court as we the owners cannot be held liable for our staff's request - especially when they took into account that the staff member in question had no final say in the hiring process.
You have been to employment court because of something similar & yet you disagree????
Read the bottom line of my previous post !!!!!!!!!!!
thecharmed01
21st September 2009, 22:07
Wow, did you even read what I wrote?
What's said in this forum would most likely have no bearing should anyone make any attempt to make it seem relevant to them not getting a job....
So of course I disagree.
I've already proved that this post, would not be held accountable to the owners of the company.... LOL
jafar
21st September 2009, 23:11
Wow, did you even read what I wrote?
What's said in this forum would most likely have no bearing should anyone make any attempt to make it seem relevant to them not getting a job....
So of course I disagree.
I've already proved that this post, would not be held accountable to the owners of the company.... LOL
Yes I read what you wrote & you have proved nothing except that you have been in a similar situation. The thing that saved you in the court was that your employee had no final say in the hiring. Is that indeed the situation here ??
The point is/was that IF someone got upset because they didn't get the job they could use the act to claim based on discrimination.
Copied from the act !
It is unlawful for employers to refuse to employ a person, hire them on lesser terms or dismiss an employee based on prohibited grounds of discrimination in the Acts, which include gender, marital status, religious or ethical belief, colour, race, ethnic or national origins, disability or age.
CFWB's original post would appear to contravene the act.
Bout time we took a chicky on board here at Wellington Motorcycles in our well busy spares and acc division.
Any keen punters get hold of me!
Pete
thecharmed01
21st September 2009, 23:23
BUT that is only the case IF he owned the business... you seem to be missing the point.
Nice try though.
Crasherfromwayback
22nd September 2009, 08:06
To top it off...we hired a guy! Shows how badly the owners would only hire a women eh?
rosie631
22nd September 2009, 08:19
Did you have any women apply?
IdunBrokdItAgin
22nd September 2009, 09:20
Wow,
the only thing anyone has proved in this thread is how easy it is to kill a rather amusing thread with legal talk.
I was smiling after page 2 then by page 4 I had just lost the will to live.
Glad you found someone to fill the role. Shame it wasn't a chick.
prettybillie
22nd September 2009, 09:21
To top it off...we hired a guy! Shows how badly the owners would only hire a women eh?
Oh you'll only get man boobs now :crybaby:
jellywrestler
22nd September 2009, 15:12
Oh you'll only get man boobs now :crybaby:
I think you'll find the correct term is 'He Hooters'
Crasherfromwayback
22nd September 2009, 15:35
Did you have any women apply?
I'd rather not comment!
vifferman
22nd September 2009, 15:57
Copied from the act !
It is unlawful for employers to refuse to employ a person, hire them on lesser terms or dismiss an employee based on prohibited grounds of discrimination in the Acts, which include gender, marital status, religious or ethical belief, colour, race, ethnic or national origins, disability or age.
That's all very well, but in The Real World, people discriminate all the time - it's a natural part of human nature. What it really boils down to is not making it obvious that you hired a person because of race, gender, or whatever.
For instance, if you need a salesperson who speaks good English, you have to discriminate against someone that spoke highly-accented English that no-one could understand. Legally, they could go to court over this, but it's complete and utter bollocks. While the intent of the Act is OK, it needs a good beating with the Commonsense Stick.
Look at our stupid orofice building: it has 'wheelchair friendly' toilets in accordance with the local building regulations, but we're on the first floor, with no elevators. Good luck trying to be an equal-opportunity employer interviewing someone who can't walk up stairs!
cc rider
23rd September 2009, 02:13
To top it off...we hired a guy! Shows how badly the owners would only hire a women eh?Orh! Bugger, aye!
But I hope the new dude don't find out you guys would rather he was a chick-a-dee... haha!
I don't know if being of a gurlie consistancy helped me get offered the bike job, but I know I wouldn't have been offered it, if I wasn't me. (made sense when I thunk it)
There are a number of females in bike stores here. But have never known of a female mechanic or bike salesperson. :scratch:
Hope the boss goes for some balance next time & understands that female riders/pillions want to have the option to deal with a salesperson who can relate to them about stuff that affects females.
I have had several women customers say how glad they were that there was a woman saleperson to get advice/help from. (gosh).
Even some men want to know a females opinion on products. Cool one guys.
goodluck next time, cfwb ;)
Mschvs
25th September 2009, 08:26
Man I'd move to Welly for that job .... I'd even consider commuting!!:Punk:
Jules13
29th September 2009, 15:07
Ha ha I completely agree with everyone saying that its a bit much with all this legal PC stuff. And this is where a female may come in handy. To tell you guys to put your claws away and chill out. Too much testosterone. I agree that it would be good to have a female for other woman to relate too. We look for different things in a bike and we communicate differently. Its a shame you got a guy.
coffeejunkie
4th October 2009, 20:13
Wow id love the job but sadly saturday dosen't work for me cuz come on honey thats a riding day:yes:
Number One
4th October 2009, 21:30
You forgot the "must be able to make a decent cup of coffee" part of the job description, Pete!
You live dangerously don't ya :spanking: If I worked there and you said that to me I'd just send you next door to Deluxe best damn food and coffee around - Date scones to die for!
Purely think it's nice to have a female avail seeing as there are now so many females riding.
Here here! It is a great idea...girls that know their bikes are passionate about them and that actually do ride. Not the 'keen to hook up with a bike riding guy' types. Hazel where for art thou? She was the best most onto it chick I experienced in the trade in Welly...but then she did have a great man training her up :love:
When I used to 'help out' (or try to) at the bike shop with hubby in the old old days (like 7 years or so ago :lol:) I remember that female customers who rode for themselves were few and far between...unlike these days. All the guys coming in never wanted to speak with me they always wanted the 'menfolk' this was fine - except when it was something stupidly simple that I actually knew, why take a womans word for it? :laugh: They would want to to speak with the fellas and I would quietly smile when they had to wait and wait just to be told the same thing anyway. I remember helping some ladies try on and buy new gears and they commented that they liked being able to talk to a female about gear fit and their bodies 'special fashion/comfort needs'
Nah, I can back my own trailer.
She can too and lots of other stuff - hardly any excuses to use the girls to get jobs done actually.
To top it off...we hired a guy!
To be fair he does have great legs :blip:
cc rider
5th October 2009, 00:17
When I used to 'help out' (or try to) at the bike shop with hubby in the old old days (like 7 years or so ago :lol:)...All the guys coming in never wanted to speak with me they always wanted the 'menfolk' this was fine - except when it was something stupidly simple that I actually knew, why take a womans word for it? :laugh: They would want to to speak with the fellas and I would quietly smile when they had to wait and wait just to be told the same thing anyway.Amazing how it always 'sounds' right when a guy tells them. I'm glad to say some things have changed. Most of the guys who come in/phone have no hesitation about talking with us girls re: bike related stuff. I don't know alot about bikes, but can converse enough to assist with what they need & am always willing to listen to what they have to say.
I remember helping some ladies try on and buy new gears and they commented that they liked being able to talk to a female about gear fit and their bodies 'special fashion/comfort needs'
And yeah, the females like another chickie to help when buying gear. Mind you the blokes are pretty cool about letting me help fit them. (behave :innocent:).
To be fair he does have great legs :blip:not that we (gurls) would be perving....but, exactly how great, Number One?? :whistle:
I figure listening & learning is the best way to get respect & recognition in any industry, regardless of being female or male.
Number One
5th October 2009, 07:53
I figure listening & learning is the best way to get respect & recognition in any industry, regardless of being female or male.
Correct!
One thing I have noticed though is that the chicks seem to be far more likely to admit if they don't know something and go away and ask or look shit up...however some of the young guys that I have dealt with on occasion have really pissed me off. One in particular I note no longer works at Wellington Motorcycles - I personally won't miss him...he was a cocky little upstart who I think thought he was the bees knees cos he worked in a bike shop...he also clearly thought that I couldn't possibly know anything about MY bike and nor did he stop to think that I might have a clued up hubby who would point out how far wrong he was in his 'advice'.
SO from that perspective I can see why people might shy away from a new person (male or female) I do! I tend to deal with the guys I have known for years whom I trust with my baby - unless it's just accessories I am after.
Morcs
5th October 2009, 11:40
This is sexist!
I am outraged!
White trash
5th October 2009, 14:49
Correct!
One in particular I note no longer works at Wellington Motorcycles - I personally won't miss him...he was a cocky little upstart who I think thought he was the bees knees cos he worked in a bike shop...he also clearly thought that I couldn't possibly know anything about MY bike and nor did he stop to think that I might have a clued up hubby who would point out how far wrong he was in his 'advice'.
S, how many fucken times have I got to appologize for that? I assumed you were just like most other women bikers, clueless.
(AH fuck this is gonna hurt)
Crasherfromwayback
5th October 2009, 14:55
(AH fuck this is gonna hurt)
Use lube...
SPman
5th October 2009, 15:03
I don't care who I talk to in a bike shop, as long as they appear to know what they're talking about (unlike me)
A good looking woman is just a bonus............
:shit:
:shutup:
Number One
5th October 2009, 15:07
S, how many fucken times have I got to appologize for that? I assumed you were just like most other women bikers, clueless.
(AH fuck this is gonna hurt)
:lol: as soon as I saw your quote notification I knew you would know you had been busted ;)
Anyway - I said a young guy! You were still an old bastard back when you worked there too ;)
cc rider
5th October 2009, 19:30
I assumed you were just like most other women bikers, clueless.
(AH fuck this is gonna hurt)
Use lube......It's the restitching that's gonna hurt the most
Crasherfromwayback
5th October 2009, 19:47
...It's the restitching that's gonna hurt the most
Serve him right!
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