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Hitcher
9th April 2005, 16:43
In my haste to uplift my ST from Motorad/Sawyers yesterday (probably still dazed from seeing Jim2's new ride up close and personal), I neglected to enquire as to the operating instructions for my new Daytona All Season Hot Grips, which were fitted during the service.

I note that there is a three-position switch: Off; Start; and On.

I've got the Off and On thing figured out, but what's the go with the "Start" position?

Has anybody else got a set of these and know what it's all about, Alfie?

Many thanks...

Da Bird
9th April 2005, 16:51
In my haste to uplift my ST from Motorad/Sawyers yesterday (probably still dazed from seeing Jim2's new ride up close and personal), I neglected to enquire as to the operating instructions for my new Daytona All Season Hot Grips, which were fitted during the service.

I note that there is a three-position switch: Off; Start; and On.

I've got the Off and On thing figured out, but what's the go with the "Start" position?

Has anybody else got a set of these and know what it's all about, Alfie?

Many thanks...

Not sure if they are the same ones but on my old police ST1100 the heated handlebar switch had 3 positions... the "Start" was used to get it warmed up and once it got warmed up, then you just switched it to "On", otherwise it got quite hot... on really cold days I just left it on "Start"!

Waylander
9th April 2005, 16:54
Not sure if they are the same ones but on my old police ST1100 the heated handlebar switch had 3 positions... the "Start" was used to get it warmed up and once it got warmed up, then you just switched it to "On", otherwise it got quite hot... on really cold days I just left it on "Start"!
That's what I was just thinking, shouldn't be too hard to figure out hitcher just play with it. If it breaks it's under warrenty so no worries.:msn-wink:

MD
9th April 2005, 19:17
Hey Hitcher I'm on my third bike with Daytona hotgrips. As stated above, 'START' is for Tim the Toolman Taylor types - more power. I think they steered away from calling it 'high' because they don't want you leaving it in this position too long in case you stuff the alternator. Its for a quick burst only. I flick it on START for 4-5 minutes at a time. 'ON' is generally enough once warmed up. They are beaut on a freezing ride. Roll on winter :cold: , well no not really. Now does Mrs H get the luxury items as well on her bike?

riffer
9th April 2005, 19:54
Mmmmmm. Heated grips.

One of the cool things about my new bike... :niceone:

Krusti
9th April 2005, 20:23
In my haste to uplift my ST from Motorad/Sawyers yesterday (probably still dazed from seeing Jim2's new ride up close and personal), I neglected to enquire as to the operating instructions for my new Daytona All Season Hot Grips, which were fitted during the service.

I note that there is a three-position switch: Off; Start; and On.

I've got the Off and On thing figured out, but what's the go with the "Start" position?

Has anybody else got a set of these and know what it's all about, Alfie?

Many thanks...

SHOWOFF.....:lol:

TonyB
9th April 2005, 20:42
START feeds gob loads of juice to each grip to get them nice and hot quickly.
ON reduces the amount of power to keep 'em warm.
According to the destructions, leaving them on start may damage the grips.
Had them on my last two bikes. Will never be without them again.

Waylander
9th April 2005, 20:45
You people need to harden up. Next y'all are gonna want heating and airconditioning, power windows and central locking.


Anybody know where I can get a set for the virago? J/k I can't affor them.

TonyB
9th April 2005, 20:56
You people need to harden up. Next y'all are gonna want heating and airconditioning, power windows and central locking.


Anybody know where I can get a set for the virago? J/k I can't affor them.
You're from the southern states, right? Texas, right? Where it's pretty warm, right? BUuuhhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa, are you gonna find out the hard way. If one is riding in air temps of -6°C, the fingers get cold kinda quickly...

Waylander
9th April 2005, 20:59
You're from the southern states, right? Texas, right? Where it's pretty warm, right? BUuuhhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa, are you gonna find out the hard way. If one is riding in air temps of -6°C, the fingers get cold kinda quickly...
Believe it or not but it gets colder in Dallas than it does here (least in hamilton) so that's not a problem. Went through my last winter there with nothing more in the way of warm gear than my jacket, wich doesn't help much so I think I can survive here. I do plan on doin heaps of riding, including south island tours, once the bike is running again and I have money so it probably would't hurt to get a set.

Aitch
10th April 2005, 08:05
cos winter will be here soon, and I like the idea of toasty warm hands.

Hitcher
10th April 2005, 12:20
cos winter will be here soon, and I like the idea of toasty warm hands.
Like most things, "it depends" on make and model. 1" bars require a bit of farting around (if you've got them) but budget on about $125 plus fitting costs, unless you're confident enough to do this yourself.

Wolf
11th April 2005, 09:50
Believe it or not but it gets colder in Dallas than it does here (least in hamilton) so that's not a problem.
What's the humidity/damp like in Dallas compared with here? Down in the Hawkes bay ("when I were a lud") we'd bop around at 4 degrees C with a t-shirt and light jersey, up here in the Waikato I was freezing my arse off and the thermometer was reading 12 degrees. Eight degrees warmer felt like ten degrees colder. The damp makes things a lot worse IME.

I wound up making a set of waterproof, lined mittens (couldn't find any suitable ones in the shops) for winter riding in -6 degree frosts (and fog) at 100km/h (wind chill factor bloody nasty) to keep my fingers cozzied together (like my toes, which were quite fine in medium weight socks and a pair of Sidis).

Heated grips would be great - or those plastic sheilds that they have on a lot of the trail/moto-x bikes to keep the icy wind off the knuckles.

TonyB
11th April 2005, 10:33
Heated grips would be great - or those plastic sheilds that they have on a lot of the trail/moto-x bikes to keep the icy wind off the knuckles.
I reckon a combination would be perfection. I ride with linerless gloves as I don't like the detached feeling you get with bulky gloves. The only down side with this is that the clutch and brake levers are still FUGGEN cold, so if you're riding in traffic or anywhere where you need to use the levers alot, the fingers still get cold. I reckon hand guards would help in this situation, plus the hands wouldn't get windchill or rain.

Blackbird
11th April 2005, 10:46
My instructions said 1-2 minutes on start. From memory, they transmit 25 watts in start mode. I'm not sure if I still have my instructions but if I do, do you want me to scan a copy?

Incidentally a friend used Ados contact adhesive and the throttle grip slowly started moving after a while. I used a few spots of Superglue and they haven't moved in 2 years!

Great product!

Geoff

vifferman
11th April 2005, 10:49
I reckon a combination would be perfection. I ride with linerless gloves as I don't like the detached feeling you get with bulky gloves. The only down side with this is that the clutch and brake levers are still FUGGEN cold, so if you're riding in traffic or anywhere where you need to use the levers alot, the fingers still get cold. I reckon hand guards would help in this situation, plus the hands wouldn't get windchill or rain.
You too? I hate padded gloves, but like you I've found unlined gloves are generally warm enough, apart from the levers making my fingers cold. So I was really pleased that the VFR had heated grips, and I'm looking forward to trying them out when it gets colder.


In my haste to uplift my ST from Motorad/Sawyers yesterday (probably still dazed from seeing Jim2's new ride up close and personal), I neglected to enquire as to the operating instructions for my new Daytona All Season Hot Grips, which were fitted during the service.

I note that there is a three-position switch: Off; Start; and On.
I thought my heated grips were Daytonas, but they can't be, as they have a variable controller rather than a switch, with OFF then adjustable from LO to HI.

Waylander
11th April 2005, 11:17
What's the humidity/damp like in Dallas compared with here? Down in the Hawkes bay ("when I were a lud") we'd bop around at 4 degrees C with a t-shirt and light jersey, up here in the Waikato I was freezing my arse off and the thermometer was reading 12 degrees. Eight degrees warmer felt like ten degrees colder. The damp makes things a lot worse IME.

I wound up making a set of waterproof, lined mittens (couldn't find any suitable ones in the shops) for winter riding in -6 degree frosts (and fog) at 100km/h (wind chill factor bloody nasty) to keep my fingers cozzied together (like my toes, which were quite fine in medium weight socks and a pair of Sidis).

Heated grips would be great - or those plastic sheilds that they have on a lot of the trail/moto-x bikes to keep the icy wind off the knuckles.
I think Dallas itself works out to be about even. Though it is a larger area, it does have lots of lakes and rivers and creeks and stuff like that. Still I do plan on doing long rides over the winter so it would probably do to get some heated grips, exspecialy if I'm gonna do the desert road again.

Wolf
11th April 2005, 12:11
exspecialy if I'm gonna do the desert road again.
Faaaark, yeah!

I recall crawling thru there at around 20kph one morning in some sort of sleet that fouled my visor big-time and I was frozen to the core despite multiple layers over all of my body (including an army-surplus great-coat) - and at 20kph, I can't blame "wind chill". Twice I've been through there in the dead of night in atrocious cold, hate that stretch of road.

XP@
11th April 2005, 12:32
cos winter will be here soon, and I like the idea of toasty warm hands.

From as little as $10!

I'm on my second set of daytona grips on my beemer, I stuffed one grip on the 1st pair.
The old pair was gathering dust in a box and when I re-wired the XT I decided that a nice pair of toasties would be good on that too.

I used the good grip and part of these DIY instructions:
http://www.webmaster10.com/ldr/DIY-heated-grips.html
To get the right resistance I measured the resistance on the good grip, then measured a length of resistance wire to the correct resistance. Wound it round the bar, taped it on with electrical tape, stuck an el-cheepo grip on top and it worked! So if you make mush of the wire coming out of a daytona grip DONT chuck them, making a new grip is a really easy option and will save heaps of $'s (unless you manage to toast the rest of your 'lectrics)