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White trash
15th September 2009, 11:32
Righto,

Drew managed to get hold of a horible old MVX250 Honda for my birthday 'cause he knows I love em to bits and have always wanted to restore one. RDJase kindly supplied and towed the bike to Manfeild a few weeks back and the exchange was done.

Here's the pics. Over the next six months I plan to return it to it's former glory. If anyone knows of any bits lying around I'd be interested to hear. In particular after the R/H raadiator shroud.

Stripping commences this weekend, more pics of the progress to follow.

RDjase
15th September 2009, 12:24
Righto,

Drew managed to get hold of a horible old MVX250 Honda for my birthday 'cause he knows I love em to bits and have always wanted to restore one. RDJase kindly supplied and towed the bike to Manfeild a few weeks back and the exchange was done.

Here's the pics. Over the next six months I plan to return it to it's former glory. If anyone knows of any bits lying around I'd be interested to hear. In particular after the R/H raadiator shroud.

Stripping commences this weekend, more pics of the progress to follow.


I have a radiator and the original mirrors off it , I will drop them off to Drew at Rd5,

And just for the record I never owned it, it follow me home like a lost dog Its good its found a good home now tho, even tho Roadracingoldfart wanted it shot:bleh:

Love the pic of Drew, I know he wants to race it:clap:

nosebleed
15th September 2009, 12:25
Woohoo, the MVX.

Mine made a 2-stroke mechanic out of me.

White trash
15th September 2009, 14:40
Shit yeah, nothing better than doing rear cylinder rebuilds at the side of the road. Roadracingoldfart used to race one back in the day, that's how old he is.

While it was parked up at Manfeild, I'd say it drew more attention than any other bike in the pits.

hospitalfood
15th September 2009, 14:54
see if the engine #'s go with the frame #'s. if they don't it may be one of my old bikes. i blew the original engine in Petone and swapped the engine over in an upstairs flat in Hopper St, Wellington after getting another one for parts ( a blue gray one ).

if it is my old one, cool !
used to do Welli to Aucks and back in the early 90's in the weekends to visit my son. I remember the lights dimming and cutting out one night every time I went over 140 odd km/h in top gear.

Pwalo
15th September 2009, 15:22
Don't do it. It'll only end in tears! There is a reason Honda stopped building those things.

T.W.R
15th September 2009, 16:03
I know where there are two complete bikes, both suffering the infamous seizure problems but the bodywork is complete on both.
They're a wee ways away from your neck of the woods though....but I could ask for you if you're interested.

Max Headroom
15th September 2009, 17:12
We musta done something wrong then . . . . .

My wife rode an MVX250 back in the late '80s for a few years. It was a low owner, low mileage bike which had been looked after very well. It never gave any problems with rear cylinder seizure.

The only trouble it gave was the result of running it on cheap 2-stroke oil for a few weeks, when it holed a front piston crown. I bought a new piston & second hand barrel, and swapped them over. Too easy.

It was a brilliant little bike. My wife eventually replaced it with an RG400 that subsequently almost killed her, but that's another story . . . . .;)

F5 Dave
15th September 2009, 17:34
They were such a running joke back in the day I remember going past Sawyers in the school bus & they were virtually giving them away with any bike sold (or 4l oil pack).

But in the end they've kinda turned retro cool, bit like owning a, um, well one of those. But cool & good on ya.

There is all sorts of lore about those, one being that the timing is off & needs to be dial gauged & the pulsar retarded on the rear. Who know if that is myth/pub story, but it couldn't hurt.

Str8 Jacket
15th September 2009, 17:37
Awesome! I was a little jealous when I saw it at the track...

Can I blow it up for you when you're sick of it, please?

SPman
15th September 2009, 18:05
Cooooool.....Ive got a mate over here looking for one - to go with his NS400R, 2x RZ500's, RG500, KR250......etc....etc......

White trash
15th September 2009, 19:33
I know where there are two complete bikes, both suffering the infamous seizure problems but the bodywork is complete on both.
They're a wee ways away from your neck of the woods though....but I could ask for you if you're interested.
Hey if you could ask the question I'd be most appreciative. I can freight anything anywhere :)

White trash
15th September 2009, 19:34
We musta done something wrong then . . . . .

My wife rode an MVX250 back in the late '80s for a few years. It was a low owner, low mileage bike which had been looked after very well. It never gave any problems with rear cylinder seizure.

The only trouble it gave was the result of running it on cheap 2-stroke oil for a few weeks, when it holed a front piston crown. I bought a new piston & second hand barrel, and swapped them over. Too easy.

It was a brilliant little bike. My wife eventually replaced it with an RG400 that subsequently almost killed her, but that's another story . . . . .;)
My last one was really good actually, I did MEGA miles on it as did my dad. They're actually really nice bikes to ride. Very comfy, awesomely smooth. Not very fast though.

White trash
15th September 2009, 19:35
There is all sorts of lore about those, one being that the timing is off & needs to be dial gauged & the pulsar retarded on the rear.

You know how one goes about that?

dangerous
15th September 2009, 19:58
WICKED SHIT
loven it WT... cool and a very misunderstood bike. Yeah factory timing was off, jetting was out all ending up with holled pistons, running a colder plug in the rear was all we knew about the bikes due to the rear not getting the same cooling as the front two, but in fact as I found each pot would take a turn at holling.
There was a after market piston high domed/compression cant remember the brand but they did well, and once fitted up the bike lasted forever... ish

excuse the quality of the pic it was back in the 80's

ps: Drew seen a modle of mine at home and stared at it saying Jimmie would cream himself over that.. we loughed :lol:

T.W.R
15th September 2009, 19:59
Hey if you could ask the question I'd be most appreciative. I can freight anything anywhere :)

I'll get in touch with him & see what he's upto with them...... last time I was talking with him he had plans of rebuilding one with the idea of using CR85 pistons etc. He's got about 6 bikes in various stages of repair so I'd say the MVXs will still be the same as last time I saw them.
Once i findout I'll let you know :niceone:

F5 Dave
16th September 2009, 09:38
You know how one goes about that?

Well first thing to do would be start at first principles & put a degree wheel on the flywheel (very cheap large protractor) using an extra nut with bolts to affix it to the crank end if there is enough thread poking out. Make a thin wire pointer line up to the marks on the wheel.

Then a dial gauge in the spark holes would find TDC for one set of pistons. Then wind it on to TDC for the rear piston & presumably that should align at 90 degrees to the front two (they are 90 deg aren't they?) If it is out by a few degrees then the crank wasn't assembled correctly.

Having not seen an MVX ignition set up I will continue with assumption;
Presumably the ignition fire is taken off the flywheel by an internal or external pulsar coil. There will be two, one for each bank of cylinders positioned at 90 degrees away from each other. If you want to retard the rear one; slot it's mounting hole & rotate it say a mm or two in the direction the flywheel rotates. This will retard the ignition giving that cylinder an easier time. The coil should remain same distance away from raised bit or the flywheel will clout it, or not work if too far away.

You can work out which cylinder lines up with which pulsar coil as it reaches TDC it will line up with the F (Fire) then T (top) mark on the flywheel & there will be a raised section passing under the related pulsar coil then. If performance falls off notably you could wind it back a little, there should be a sweet spot.

I'd also check that the fuel supply is ok to all carbs, watch fuel filters which can be hidden in carbs or taps. Make sure carb jets cleaned out, 2 strokes often seize on closed throttle meaning pilot jet. You could try wind the idle mixture screw in a touch more than the other cylinders which will richen the mixture a tickle.

White trash
16th September 2009, 10:10
Legend Dave, thanks for that. Fancy a wee trip to Auckland? :)

Nah I'll be able to work it out from that explanation.

nudemetalz
16th September 2009, 12:26
I'd love an MVX.
Mate had one back in '87 when I had a CBX400F. We used to dragrace down the Auckland Motorway (we were 17 yrs old afterall), wasn't much in it. I rode the MVX and got 160km/h indicated (on private property of course ;) ) on it. Remember it being smooth motor with a peculiar flat engine note.

Pity Honda never developed it into a 3 cylinder NS250 based on the '400.

dangerous
16th September 2009, 18:14
Remember it being smooth motor with a peculiar flat engine note.

Pity Honda never developed it into a 3 cylinder NS250 based on the '400.

Yeah a trip is very smooth and the V3 super smooth... engine note was one of a kind sounded awesome with oil dribling out of the rubber boots on the tail piece.

Ya have to remember the MVX was brought out over night as Suzuki had relised the RG the RZ arived and so had the KR... a bit slow of the take was Honda but hey not a bad effort even tho they should have knowen beter.

check it out both the MVX and RG were the only two fully faired bikes (RG & MVX) in the contry at that time the Rg was x top racers of the area and the MVX was a x well knowen rider at the time aswell.

gwigs
16th September 2009, 18:16
My sons bike,it goes but has a crankshaft seal problem and need forks and brakes done...I might do it up as a project .Parts seem to be hard to find though I have seen plenty on Yahoo Japan but not being able to speak or read Japanese it aint much use.

quickbuck
16th September 2009, 18:55
Yeah a trip is very smooth and the V3 super smooth... engine note was one of a kind sounded awesome with oil dribling out of the rubber boots on the tail piece.

Ya have to remember the MVX was brought out over night as Suzuki had relised the RG the RZ arived and so had the KR... a bit slow of the take was Honda but hey not a bad effort even tho they should have knowen beter.

.

Yup... All that oil down the pipes and over the floor.....

Yes, Honda should have known better.... Realistically they just wedged a V3 into a VT 250 frame....

Oh, and the power... Well it was plenty for a 17 year old with stuff all road experience.

quickbuck
16th September 2009, 18:56
I have seen plenty on Yahoo Japan but not being able to speak or read Japanese it aint much use.

You can get google to translate it??
Sometimes the captions are a real laugh.... on all bikes that is.

roadracingoldfart
17th September 2009, 20:28
Shit yeah, nothing better than doing rear cylinder rebuilds at the side of the road. Roadracingoldfart used to race one back in the day, that's how old he is.

While it was parked up at Manfeild, I'd say it drew more attention than any other bike in the pits.


Two things here .......

1 You stole my photo ya bastard (the one with the missing middle link in it )
2 Im starting to look on this beastly bike with a bit more respect than i did when i raced them. Assholes like Holden , Mcdoanld and others all blew me away but i had soooo much fun getting in thier way but i never got lapped once in 2 years ,thank god for short races lol. Free bikes were always good bikes:2thumbsup and when the NS400 r came out i never touched the MVX again.
Ill give you a few tips some time Jimmy . One thing they need is a reliable clutch lever , just in case :lol:

I will watch this thread with interest :pinch:

Paul.

roadracingoldfart
17th September 2009, 20:30
Its good its found a good home now tho, even tho Roadracingoldfart wanted it shot:bleh:




Its true , this is all your bloody fault , all you had to do was pull one little trigger , your a bloody failure.

RDjase
17th September 2009, 21:26
Its true , this is all your bloody fault , all you had to do was pull one little trigger , your a bloody failure.

:ar15::2guns::bash: Is that better Paul? Or to late:lol:

geoffm
17th September 2009, 22:23
Hm the MVX handgrenade (pin optional...)
A friend ahd 3 of them - but only 1 running at a time as they all blew up.
There is an english language workshop manual, which any MVX owner will soon learn off by heart. No copy in my archives tho.
Geoff

roadracingoldfart
18th September 2009, 07:11
:ar15::2guns::bash: Is that better Paul? Or to late:lol:


Im afraid (very very afraid ) that you may be a tad too late.:zzzz:
Time will tell.:(

roadracingoldfart
18th September 2009, 07:13
If this bike ever gets on the track i may have to buy an old RD 200 electric to give Trashie a thrashie.

White trash
18th September 2009, 09:16
If this bike ever gets on the track i may have to buy an old RD 200 electric to give Trashie a thrashie.
Pfft, whatever old man. It will make it to a track but only in track day capacity, I'm over racing.

Got some good suspension mods in mind to lessen the softness a bit and a few reliability fixes. She'll be a good un.

Taz
18th September 2009, 09:43
Inboard ventilated discs were honda's answer to a a question nobody asked :)

vifferman
18th September 2009, 12:08
What an "interesting" bike. :confused:
Good luck with it, Mr Trash, Sir! :niceone:

Ixion
18th September 2009, 12:11
Could you not find a cheaper way of causing yourself intense pain and loss of sanity?

Maybe putting your head into the blades of an industrial lawn mower , or wood chipping machine? Something like that?

F5 Dave
18th September 2009, 12:31
Inboard ventilated discs were honda's answer to a a question nobody asked :)

Well the question was originally why don't my brakes work in the wet?, Answer 'cause you used stainless discs instead of iron like the Ities. Only thing is that; by 1983 people had sintered pads so, it was no longer a problem.

In the end they weren't such a bad thing for a roadbike, . . . I'm not saying they were a good thing, -but they weren't as heavy as people made them out to be & once you worked out how to take them apart it was almost as quick as a normal wheel to remove. Some people had problems, but only 'cause they weren't thinking. Never heard of any inboard discs warping or wearing out, which is more than can be said of a lot of bikes.

malcy25
18th September 2009, 15:48
Never heard of any inboard discs warping or wearing out, which is more than can be said of a lot of bikes.

is that because the bikes theyw ere fitted to were never running long enough....!:whistle:

F5 Dave
18th September 2009, 17:39
My CBX550 had 96,000 on it when I sold it having done 60k of them myself in the late 80s. Don't get me wrong I'm hardly a Honda fan, they had their fair share of Turkeys. But poke fun where it is due.

As a kid we used to deride a couple of bicycles, one for their advanced gear shift technology as it was reputed that the cables can break easier. & another for some dumb arse reason. All I am saying if I am honest we were speaking out of ignorance & urban myth. The public are very fickle. In England the TL thou became a monster killer bike, but it was no where near that bad. Some bikes had glaring faults & could be fixed, but once tarnished it is hard to overcome. The VF range became the VFR after multiple problems & only Honda stubbornness kept the range going.

. . . Now CX500s, they were shit.:lol:

jellywrestler
18th September 2009, 17:47
these were an interesting bike, from memory they were $3454 new and the RZ was $44?? and the RG was $5454 which when you look at the three brands of 250s on the market with a full $1000 between them and the suzuki more than 50% dearer than the honda it must have been an interesting life for the salesman.
I recall too that NZ was one of the few markets to get them and word was it that honda made them, found out that they couldn't even pull the skin off a rice pudding and were going to divert them to the crusher until blue wing got in on them?
any truth to that rumour???

dangerous
18th September 2009, 18:23
. . . Now CX500s, they were shit.:lol:

HEY WAIT JUST A MOMENT... what ya mean 'shit' from my worked B to the TC 5 in all I never had any probs and thats including riding one from Nelson to Chch in the red (temp) due to a blowen water pump at over 160kph and all I did to it was warp the rear casing... well ok the pump seal went but hey, LOL :2thumbsup

quickbuck
18th September 2009, 20:48
. One thing they need is a reliable clutch lever , just in case :lol:




Hmmmm there were only two things that broke on mine........
Yup.. piston broke.... and the clutch cable....
Not at the same time thankfully.

sugilite
18th September 2009, 21:11
I recall too that NZ was one of the few markets to get them and word was it that honda made them, found out that they couldn't even pull the skin off a rice pudding and were going to divert them to the crusher until blue wing got in on them?
any truth to that rumour???

Yes, that's pretty much it.
I had a RG250 at the time the MVX was released, I rode one (MVX) on makara rd and thought, hmm, when is it going to hit the power band, then I looked down and saw I was already red lining it :lol:

roadracingoldfart
18th September 2009, 21:53
is that because the bikes theyw ere fitted to were never running long enough....!:whistle:


Bollocks , i raced a CBX 550 in the Castrol 6 hour and we did the whole race on one set of pads and thats a fact.

Inboard rotors were a very tricky bit of Honda's bikes in the day and they were fitted to many models in various guises.
Once you worked out how they worked, what to maintain and how they came aprt 9and back together ) they were great , but they did make a bit of a mess of the rims because of the material they used. They were better in the wet than exposed rotors as well.

Rant over ...... as you were.

roadracingoldfart
18th September 2009, 21:55
Yes, that's pretty much it.
I had a RG250 at the time the MVX was released, I rode one (MVX) on makara rd and thought, hmm, when is it going to hit the power band, then I looked down and saw I was already red lining it :lol:

You could buy a VF400f for the same as an MVX and we sold heaps of the little smokers. :lol::pinch:

Bonez
19th September 2009, 15:08
. . . Now CX500s, they were shit.:lol:
Agreed. Only because I have one mind you. Probably smokes more than an MVX too. Something to do with having character or some such thing.

No wait, that was the knock in the engine........................

Good luck with the resto WT.

dangerous
19th September 2009, 17:24
Agreed. Only because I have one mind you. Probably smokes more than an MVX too. Something to do with having character or some such thing.

No wait, that was the knock in the engine........................

Good luck with the resto WT.

Oh Bonez... stop teasing me you bastards the CX was next to a perfect bike, list just 1 issue they had?... YEAH, ya cant aye :2thumbsup

Henk
19th September 2009, 19:03
Does the fact that they were horribly ugly count as an issue?

dangerous
19th September 2009, 19:18
Does the fact that they were horribly ugly count as an issue? hehe... tiz in the eye of the beholder ;)

Taz
19th September 2009, 19:53
Oh Bonez... stop teasing me you bastards the CX was next to a perfect bike, list just 1 issue they had?... YEAH, ya cant aye :2thumbsup

They would wear the cam chain/tensioners prematurely and were a pain to change as they are behind the engine instead of in front where they'd be easy to get at. :bleh:

RDjase
19th September 2009, 21:51
They would wear the cam chain/tensioners prematurely and were a pain to change as they are behind the engine instead of in front where they'd be easy to get at. :bleh:

you get that with those weird engines with those funny valve things in the cylinder heads, Far to many moving parts :lol:

dangerous
20th September 2009, 09:40
They would wear the cam chain/tensioners prematurely and were a pain to change as they are behind the engine instead of in front where they'd be easy to get at. :bleh:

Na no way, Iv had 5 of them from the A to the TC from 2,000km to well over 100,000km never done a cam chain never heard of them being done. (honda did have issues with other modles when they introduced the auto tensioner)

anyway... this is about the MVX a real misunderstood shitter that you either love or hate, someone mentioned the bland power delivery for a wee stroker... well the NSR 400 another V3 was much the same, typical of Honda and their erganomics.

koba
20th September 2009, 09:46
Na no way, Iv had 5 of them from the A to the TC from 2,000km to well over 100,000km never done a cam chain never heard of them being done.

Betcha it will still need the cam chain doing before your RD LC tho!

dangerous
20th September 2009, 09:59
Betcha it will still need the cam chain doing before your RD LC tho!
well no actually... after yesterdays CAMs meet I have 2 LC engines to strip down :Offtopic: farking strokers :Punk:

RDjase
20th September 2009, 11:20
well no actually... after yesterdays CAMs meet I have 2 LC engines to strip down :Offtopic: farking strokers :Punk:
Bummer D, what happened to the LC's? are you still selling them now or have you come to your sense's?
Maybe you havn't lol You are talking about CX':laugh:s

White trash
19th January 2010, 11:39
Well not much has happened recently, mostly due to an impending birth and having the girls up for the school holidays.

However, having spoken to a dude on the phone last night who's as enthusiastic (read mental) about them as me, I'm all motivated again. This guy's got a running riding MVX also so I'm racing to get mine roadworthy before the end of the summer so we can meet up at a pub and go for a hoon.

So forks and shock will be off to Dr Bob this week for some fine tuning.

Frame will be stripped and repainted to its former glory hopefully in Feb then reassembled and hit the road :D

Pics to follow.

nudemetalz
19th January 2010, 11:46
Wonder if an NS400R engine would go in one. That would make a surprise for the RGV boys !!

F5 Dave
19th January 2010, 17:06
Don't put him off track, he's easily distracted. Besides might as well leave one in the 400 if you have one. When was the last time you saw an RGV on the road to 'surprise'?

dangerous
19th January 2010, 17:26
Well not much has happened recently, mostly due to an impending birth and having the girls up for the school holidays.

However, having spoken to a dude on the phone last night who's as enthusiastic (read mental) about them as me, I'm all motivated again. This guy's got a running riding MVX also so I'm racing to get mine roadworthy before the end of the summer so we can meet up at a pub and go for a hoon.

So forks and shock will be off to Dr Bob this week for some fine tuning.

Frame will be stripped and repainted to its former glory hopefully in Feb then reassembled and hit the road :D
Pics to follow.Ya got pleanty of time man, if it took me 2 @ 1/2 years to sort the XN, then ya got a bit of time up ya sleaves.
Did ya get the side pannel you were after?
What state is the engine in as ya dont mention a rebuild... I like to know were my stroker engines are at, not that it makes a farking differance a new one will still pop.

Scotty595
19th January 2010, 19:25
Fuck I love those bikes. Wonder if i'll get in trouble if I buy one :whistle:

quickbuck
19th January 2010, 20:23
Fuck I love those bikes. Wonder if i'll get in trouble if I buy one :whistle:

You sure will......
I did, and have only recently lost my 2-stroke curse... after 23 years!!!!!!
Well, actually I have't... Forgot I made the NSR go Clack too :(

RDjase
19th January 2010, 21:59
I got you a front rotor the other day Jimmy,Its says CBX550 but I'm pretty sure there the same, that cool? inboard disc thing lol.
I will put it in my bike spares and catch up with you or drew at a track at some stage
Did drew get those throttle cables, mirrors and rad to you?
I have been asking around for parts, after they stop laughing and metioning rear cylinders you get the "MVX Stories" Hope some bits turn up in forgoten at the back of the shed dusty parts

Are early VT250 plastics the same?



What state is the engine in as ya dont mention a rebuild... I like to know were my stroker engines are at, not that it makes a farking differance a new one will still pop.

The engine sounds mint , not a rattle in it, I got it running after cleaning out the carbs , hot wired it (key missing) and 1 half hearted kick and away it went, was quite suprised how easy it started as it had been left out side for years without even being kicked over.
They have definatly got a sound of there own
Got to love 80's bikes , even MVX's aye Jimmy

dangerous
20th January 2010, 03:57
I got it running after cleaning out the carbs , hot wired it (key missing) and 1 half hearted kick and away it went, was quite suprised how easy it started as it had been left out side for years without even being kicked over.
They have definatly got a sound of there own And that alone says something for a Honda LOL, so I wonder what it would sound like with the guts in the mufflers replaced with a perf pipe only as they were always a quite exhaust (no baffling in the spannys like in the LC's is there?

White trash
20th January 2010, 07:30
Ya got pleanty of time man, if it took me 2 @ 1/2 years to sort the XN, then ya got a bit of time up ya sleaves.
Did ya get the side pannel you were after?
What state is the engine in as ya dont mention a rebuild... I like to know were my stroker engines are at, not that it makes a farking differance a new one will still pop.

The motor's good however if I find I need parts I've found a nutter with a stash of pistons and other new parts he'll ration out to worthy causes. He thought he had the last running one in the world. Can't for the life of me find that fucken R/H radiator shroud and it's pissing me off.

He also confirmed your theory on the ignition timing Dave.


Fuck I love those bikes. Wonder if i'll get in trouble if I buy one :whistle:

Good luck finding one.


I got you a front rotor the other day Jimmy,Its says CBX550 but I'm pretty sure there the same, that cool? inboard disc thing lol.
I will put it in my bike spares and catch up with you or drew at a track at some stage
Did drew get those throttle cables, mirrors and rad to you?
I have been asking around for parts, after they stop laughing and metioning rear cylinders you get the "MVX Stories" Hope some bits turn up in forgoten at the back of the shed dusty parts

Are early VT250 plastics the same?



The engine sounds mint , not a rattle in it, I got it running after cleaning out the carbs , hot wired it (key missing) and 1 half hearted kick and away it went, was quite suprised how easy it started as it had been left out side for years without even being kicked over.
They have definatly got a sound of there own
Got to love 80's bikes , even MVX's aye Jimmy

MVX FTW bro!!!! Cheers on the front rotor mate, much obliged. Drew dropped all the parts off on new year, she's coming together well. There's subtle differences in the VT bits too unfortunately. I almost have everything I need to make it mint again now anyway.

White trash
20th January 2010, 07:31
Wonder if an NS400R engine would go in one. That would make a surprise for the RGV boys !!


Don't put him off track, he's easily distracted. Besides might as well leave one in the 400 if you have one. When was the last time you saw an RGV on the road to 'surprise'?

If I had an NS400 I'd probably be more inclined to keep the motor in it as they're a far sportier chasis than the MVX anyway. Ignition timing theory confirmed too Dave, thanks for the heads up.

F5 Dave
20th January 2010, 08:38
Well it looks like you'll be lernin sum new skill with fibreglass reproduction if you can prise a shroud out of your nutter to copy.

White trash
20th January 2010, 09:05
I was thinking the same thing mate. LOL I shouldn't call him a nutter because he's a bloody top bloke with heaps of advice to offer. Just can't think of any better word to describe us few remaining MVX-ophiles....

F5 Dave
20th January 2010, 09:10
Hmm, he isn't an Old Dutch man with long hair & like Heavy metal music? -- He could be the Mike Vash of Hondas?

White trash
20th January 2010, 09:14
Nah, not quite THAT nutty mate.

F5 Dave
23rd January 2010, 13:42
I assume this is your dude? or another source?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Frames/auction-265993594.htm

dangerous
23rd January 2010, 14:12
I assume this is your dude? or another source?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Frames/auction-265993594.htmSHIT.. I cant believe theres so many people out there wanting parts, talk about the closit

Scotty595
28th January 2010, 14:02
Good luck finding one.



Got one :D

Now to start restoring

dangerous
28th January 2010, 17:05
Got one :D

Now to start restoring
crank a thread then... and ill start another, "whos MVX will crap its dacks 1st" :)

RDjase
28th January 2010, 17:15
SHIT.. I cant believe theres so many people out there wanting parts, talk about the closit

Your not kidding D, Who would have thought there was that many still around and getting restored

You going to start a MVX club Jimmy ?

Jimmy for El Presedente !!!

Scotty595
28th January 2010, 22:28
crank a thread then... and ill start another, "whos MVX will crap its dacks 1st" :)

Yeah will see what i can do when I pick the bike up.

Pwalo
29th January 2010, 11:58
So does this mean that every MVX that came into the country is being rebuilt (again, and again.........)?

nudemetalz
29th January 2010, 12:23
No need....they can be ridden 166cc V-twin ... :rofl:

Buddha#81
29th January 2010, 14:59
I assume this is your dude? or another source?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Frames/auction-265993594.htm

Hahahaha 56000 on that rolling chassis, must have put a drill on it for 50K!!!!!!!!!!:blink:

dangerous
29th January 2010, 16:07
No need....they can be ridden 166cc V-twin ... :rofl: problem being... they soon become a 83cc single.
Hey guys, Im sussing something out aswell ;)

F5 Dave
29th January 2010, 16:39
I had a friend many years ago (ok only the one. . . till he stopped returning calls) who was looking at trying to mate a top end on a MB for a bucket engine. This was as he worked at a wreckers when the first MVXs were coming in in pieces.

Scotty595
29th January 2010, 18:50
Hahahaha 56000 on that rolling chassis, must have put a drill on it for 50K!!!!!!!!!!:blink:

Unreliability is all part of the charm :p

Scotty595
29th January 2010, 18:52
I had a friend many years ago (ok only the one. . . till he stopped returning calls) who was looking at trying to mate a top end on a MB for a bucket engine. This was as he worked at a wreckers when the first MVXs were coming in in pieces.

Funny enough i had been toying with the idea of trying to find something to mate it too for a bucket

Scotty595
31st January 2010, 00:09
:o Just picked up the MVX :D

roadracingoldfart
3rd February 2010, 19:57
If I had an NS400 I'd probably be more inclined to keep the motor in it as they're a far sportier chasis than the MVX anyway.


I was talkin to a mate who reminded me of days gone recently , we did 1m19s round Manfeild on the NS400R and 1m 25s on the MVX250s so they had some go . If the clutch wasnt half way in all the time out of fear they could have gone better lol.

As a comparo , the CBR600 was good for 1m 17s (others were much faster) .
I seem to remember the MVX lasted longer with rich jetting on the track than they did on the road as std jetting anyhow, and they still pulled ok.

Paul.

quickbuck
3rd February 2010, 20:14
Heck.... Some sharp times there Paul...... Especially on the suspension the MVX has.....

RDjase
3rd February 2010, 22:06
Heck.... Some sharp times there Paul...... Especially on the suspension the MVX has.....

I think Paul needs another MVX for postys !


problem being... they soon become a 83cc single.
Hey guys, Im sussing something out aswell ;)

Are you getting a MVX too D?

Its looking like I have started somrthing selling the MVX to Jimmy ;)

quickbuck
3rd February 2010, 22:12
I think Paul needs another MVX for postys !



Are you getting a MVX too D?

Its looking like I have started somrthing selling the MVX to Jimmy ;)
Well, if Paul wants somebody to ride one....... I might have a little spare time on my hands over the winter :whistle:

Yes, and we will blame you for this whole sorry MVX resurrection mess when it all ends in tears Jase ;)

dangerous
4th February 2010, 04:59
Are you getting a MVX too D? I am considering something should the house sell, things are still up in the air.


Yes, and we will blame you for this whole sorry MVX resurrection mess when it all ends in tears Jase ;)hahahahaaaaaaaa, farking motorbikes aye!

RDjase
4th February 2010, 06:41
Well, if Paul wants somebody to ride one....... I might have a little spare time on my hands over the winter :whistle:

Yes, and we will blame you for this whole sorry MVX resurrection mess when it all ends in tears Jase ;)

So can I join the MVX club?

PLEASE !

I know I dont have 1 but there must be a special mention for starting it all

I can bring the spare barrels and pistons for you fullas on my LC;)

White trash
4th February 2010, 13:04
We'll need a reliable delivery bike to follow us on all our rides Jase, you're more the welcome to be the mule. :)

RDjase
4th February 2010, 14:38
We'll need a reliable delivery bike to follow us on all our rides Jase, you're more the welcome to be the mule. :)

best I fit a side chair on the LC for the spares mate:woohoo:

dangerous
4th February 2010, 16:20
best I fit a side chair on the LC for the spares mate:woohoo:
hey look here mate, LOL dont get to cheeky I know for a fact your LC's are in bits that puts Trash's MVX to the top of the class (well just under my LC, but thats only cos its using half your bikes organs hahaha)

RDjase
5th February 2010, 22:16
hey look here mate, LOL dont get to cheeky I know for a fact your LC's are in bits that puts Trash's MVX to the top of the class (well just under my LC, but thats only cos its using half your bikes organs hahaha)

Haha, Its hard to have spark when your flywheel , cdi and stator are in a differnt island aye mate

My bike is running , well will be when i fit the rebored barrels on monday night, I am going on the BFTP rally next weekend, hanging out to ride my road LC.

When all these MVXs are up and running we need to have a classic 2 stroke ride

Scotty595
5th February 2010, 22:58
Haha, Its hard to have spark when your flywheel , cdi and stator are in a differnt island aye mate

My bike is running , well will be when i fit the rebored barrels on monday night, I am going on the BFTP rally next weekend, hanging out to ride my road LC.

When all these MVXs are up and running we need to have a classic 2 stroke ride

Absolutely agree with the classic 2 stroke ride. Hope mine doesnt take too long to get on the road.

dangerous
6th February 2010, 08:15
Absolutely agree with the classic 2 stroke ride. Hope mine doesnt take too long to get on the road.
would only be a real classic stroker ride if all bikes used dino oil and pleanty of it LOL, not the same with syn oils aye.

RDjase
6th February 2010, 08:23
would only be a real classic stroker ride if all bikes used dino oil and pleanty of it LOL, not the same with syn oils aye.

And getting chased by the greenys aye D

Scotty595
6th February 2010, 08:23
would only be a real classic stroker ride if all bikes used dino oil and pleanty of it LOL, not the same with syn oils aye.

True, but we would have to take lots of vans on the ride with us to pick up the pieces. lol

RDjase
6th February 2010, 08:35
True, but we would have to take lots of vans on the ride with us to pick up the pieces. lol

My LC has only had 3 rides home on trailers in 17 years, 2 crashes and once it threw a chain (while trashing it down the river)

This classic 2 stroke ride could be lots of fun, Dont see many about any more. At the bikoi I saw 1 LC , 1 TZR and 1 RZ(tyger tung's) Not even a RGV or any older stuff,

Scotty595
7th February 2010, 09:05
So... Does anyone know where to get teh workshop manual for one of these?

dangerous
7th February 2010, 09:23
So... Does anyone know where to get teh workshop manual for one of these?
You will find the manuals in the heads of the old fukers like me, loaded it in there when we were teenagers and pulling trhe MVX's apart, actually we never used a manual, rip it open and shove it back togeather... no worries its a stroker, wasent like we didnt get enough pratice :Oops:

Kickaha
7th February 2010, 09:32
actually we never used a manual, rip it open and shove it back togeather...

Probably why they ended up with such a bad reputation :bleh:

Manufacturer: Honda
Series: MVX series (Honda)
Description:V3 Slightly earlier than the NS250. Environmental disaster

dangerous
7th February 2010, 09:44
Ok, seen as the closet MVX quears seem to be comming out, Ill admit I have one already Drew has seen it and the funny thing is when he did his words were "fuck Jimmy would be creaming himself over that"

Scotty595
8th February 2010, 09:06
More people seem to look here than my thread so will ask here -

I have been told by the guy i bought it off it needs new clutch plates, the clutch lever has no resistance/spring back at all.

He said that it uses the same clutch plates as a Honda CR250, can anyone confirm/deny this? Either that or tell me where to get clutch plates from?

RDjase
8th February 2010, 11:30
Ok, seen as the closet MVX quears seem to be comming out, Ill admit I have one already Drew has seen it and the funny thing is when he did his words were "fuck Jimmy would be creaming himself over that"

Jimmy will be able to take a mould of the missing fairing he needs,

How do you up scale it ? Thats the hard bit

dangerous
8th February 2010, 15:44
Jimmy will be able to take a mould of the missing fairing he needs,

How do you up scale it ? Thats the hard bit easy as... put in the micro wave on high for 20min's


More people seem to look here than my thread so will ask here -

I have been told by the guy i bought it off it needs new clutch plates, the clutch lever has no resistance/spring back at all.

He said that it uses the same clutch plates as a Honda CR250, can anyone confirm/deny this? Either that or tell me where to get clutch plates from?
mate... did not know you had a thread up, did you post a link here (if yes then Im blind, mum always said that would happen...if no then DO IT)

Scotty595
8th February 2010, 16:16
There ya go! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/117845-MVX250-Project)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/117845-MVX250-Project

Have a look around at the thread should be updating it when i get some more parts :D

Scotty595
9th February 2010, 18:52
anyone know if the VT250 (FD) same year fork seals and wheel bearings will fit the MVX?

RDjase
9th February 2010, 21:15
anyone know if the VT250 (FD) same year fork seals and wheel bearings will fit the MVX?

you would think so, What diameter forks have you got. Wheels bearings are a cheap item from Saeco or SKF

I will find out about the fork seals tomorro if i get a chance

dangerous
21st February 2010, 20:08
Hey MVX fruits... checked out what could be my project (waiting on some money to arive so is on hold) 4 engines and two rolling frames with plastics less one pan but with a seat cowl. all the engines are blowen tho with broken barrel skirts etc...

imdying
25th February 2010, 09:12
Random pics, maybe they'll be useful?

<img src="http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/RD350b/2-Strokes/3626230509_6b0982f3a4_b.jpg">
<img src="http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/RD350b/2-Strokes/3626231915_9162e75e65_b.jpg">

Scotty595
25th February 2010, 20:21
Looking fantastic. Hopefully will ge tmine like that sometime :p

Sable
25th August 2010, 19:38
Oh fuck. Now I want one. Damn my fetish for shitty old stinkwheels.

White trash
27th August 2010, 10:13
Oh fuck. Now I want one. Damn my fetish for shitty old stinkwheels.

Funny old world, I reckon your X7's a pretty cool one too. Have to get together when my MVX is finnished and go for a hoon. Do you know Johann from WMCC? He's got a couple of X7s too.

BuzzardNZ
27th August 2010, 12:04
I always wanted an MVX as a kid. Nice to see some fine looking examples still around today. Must be tough getting parts for them :shit:

White trash
21st December 2010, 07:23
Been a bit quiet lately but really need to give a huge thanks to the guys at NZ Soda Blasting in Montgomery Cres, Upper Hutt http://www.nzsodablasting.co.nz/index.php/contacts-locations/wellington

4 days from drop off to pick-up, media blasted, powder coated, cleared, ready to roll. The job is FANTASTIC and well under budget.

I'll post some pics when I get home, now I can start the reassembly process, well on track for an early Feb start up.

White trash
28th December 2010, 08:08
Well in a fit of enthusiasm, I began reassembly yesterday. I'll probably do a shitload more today judging by the weather.

Here's the bare frame and swingarm post powdercoating.227225

I promise to not use a phone to take images again. Anyway, swingarm, linkages and shock are all refitted. Amazing how long it takes when you're cleaning and repainting everything as you go. Looks fucken good though.

I'm off out to the garage again soon so I'll get some more pics as I go.

dangerous
28th December 2010, 11:07
bloody hell, Im not sure were the bright reflection is comming from, might be the frame... :shutup:

Gibbo89
28th December 2010, 15:15
Found this puppy.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Manuals-magazines/auction-342614705.htm

White trash
31st December 2010, 07:03
This week has been most productive in getting the old bitch back to rideable. Last night I decided to do some work on the forks so that as soon as the steering head bearings arrive, I can get the wheels on it and sit there making vroom vroom noises like F5dave can.

So, in typical Trash style, I charge into the job. Strip the first one, carefully clean up the tube. Chuck new seals in it, oil level perfect, bolt it all back together. Mint! Grab the second fork, lay it on the bench as as I'm spinning the tube in the leg to wipe the crap off it, I notice there's easily a visible 10mm of run out in the top of the tube. CUNT! Fearing the worst I grab my newly completed "mint" fork, and not actually wanting to check slowly rotate that tube. Yup. Two bent forks.

Rookie rookie rookie.........

Paul in NZ
31st December 2010, 07:12
Yup. Two bent forks..........

Mate - thats not a fault, its a feature, adjustable steering geometery :innocent:

10mm is quite a bit... Are they thick walled enough to stand a straighten out?

dangerous
31st December 2010, 08:19
Mate - thats not a fault, its a feature, adjustable steering geometery :innocent:

10mm is quite a bit... Are they thick walled enough to stand a straighten out?
or or... rotate the forks 180* and enjoy beter high speed stability, and and... put apes on it and really cruze... or not :facepalm:

White trash
31st December 2010, 09:49
Mate - thats not a fault, its a feature, adjustable steering geometery :innocent:

10mm is quite a bit... Are they thick walled enough to stand a straighten out?

The thought crossed my mind briefly @ midnight but then I slapped myself into reality and reminded my bourbon soaked brain I'd promised to do this one right.

I've got a complete other bike in Christchurch which I'll get Bike Tranz to collect next week and get it up. Hopefully, those forks are straight. Just means two more weeks before the wheels can go on it.

kiwifruit
31st December 2010, 09:54
There is a fella in Cambridge who could straighten those forks no problem

White trash
31st December 2010, 09:56
There is a fella in Cambridge who could straighten those forks no problem

Yeah mate, but as I've got a complete spares bike that I really need to get up here anyway, I'll just wait a couple of weeks for it to arrive.

dangerous
31st December 2010, 09:59
the 2 bikes 4 engines I lined up for Drew was on trade me a month back... wonder if it sold, can always find out?

White trash
31st December 2010, 10:14
the 2 bikes 4 engines I lined up for Drew was on trade me a month back... wonder if it sold, can always find out?

Dude, at what he's asking it's just too expensive for us unfortunately. I just bought a complete, full bodywork, (sad) runner for $180.

If your man's interested, we might be keen on buying some bits and pieces, but realistically I wouldn't want to pay more than 500 for the collection.

RDjase
31st December 2010, 19:44
Dude, at what he's asking it's just too expensive for us unfortunately. I just bought a complete, full bodywork, (sad) runner for $180.

If your man's interested, we might be keen on buying some bits and pieces, but realistically I wouldn't want to pay more than 500 for the collection.

Hey Jimmy, I heard of a MVX in Napier, dead or no engine. I will find out for you.
Its the least I can do since you got youe MVX off me, consumers garentees act and all that mate.

What was the date for the 2 stroke welly ride? I highsided the LC and broke my shoulder blade at TRRS. Hope to be ok for it. Only got a dent in the tank and a bent capscrew that holds the footpeg.................that i can see so far.............havnt had much intrest in bikes for the last couple of days

White trash
1st January 2011, 07:41
Hey Jimmy, I heard of a MVX in Napier, dead or no engine. I will find out for you.
Its the least I can do since you got youe MVX off me, consumers garentees act and all that mate.

What was the date for the 2 stroke welly ride? I highsided the LC and broke my shoulder blade at TRRS. Hope to be ok for it. Only got a dent in the tank and a bent capscrew that holds the footpeg.................that i can see so far.............havnt had much intrest in bikes for the last couple of days

Oh you poor bastard, shoulder blade's a real arsehole, you can never get comfortable.

2T ride 27 Feb, so you've a couple of months to refind the luv. Don't put too much effort into finding that other bike mate. As I said, I've got a spares bike already.

T.W.R
1st January 2011, 08:35
the 2 bikes 4 engines I lined up for Drew was on trade me a month back... wonder if it sold, can always find out?

Same bikes someone sorted out for you and ya piked on the deal :facepalm::weird:
glory of riding someone elses leg work :shutup:

Paul in NZ
1st January 2011, 10:11
Same bikes someone sorted out for you and ya piked on the deal :facepalm::weird:
glory of riding someone elses leg work :shutup:

geeze you guys are hilarious. I asked about an MVX a while back and it was all - oh no, dont do it, crap bikes, blow up every 5 mins and now everyones restoring one :innocent: One presumes some one some place figured out how to make them semi reliable?

Always cash here for a cheap project.... (cough)

Kickaha
1st January 2011, 10:14
Always cash here for a cheap project.... (cough)

I got a MVX in the shed I could sell you cheap just to get shot of it (White trash might get a bit pissy cause it's his bike though)

Paul in NZ
1st January 2011, 10:26
I got a MVX in the shed I could sell you cheap just to get shot of it (White trash might get a bit pissy cause it's his bike though)


Ha ha - he would just want me to pay to get it here....

T.W.R
1st January 2011, 13:09
geeze you guys are hilarious. I asked about an MVX a while back and it was all - oh no, dont do it, crap bikes, blow up every 5 mins and now everyones restoring one :innocent: One presumes some one some place figured out how to make them semi reliable?

Always cash here for a cheap project.... (cough)

:shutup: Intention was to wind D up but the hook was a bit big.

personally I'd rather fettle with a air cooled RD or a X7 :yes:

dangerous
1st January 2011, 14:34
geeze you guys are hilarious. I asked about an MVX a while back and it was all - oh no, dont do it, crap bikes, blow up every 5 mins and now everyones restoring one :innocent: One presumes some one some place figured out how to make them semi reliable?

Always cash here for a cheap project.... (cough) NOT from me ya wouldnt have had such a reply, yip a big balls up on Honda's behalf in the 80's but these days we know more about timing, materails, lubes etc.



Same bikes someone sorted out for you and ya piked on the deal :facepalm::weird:
glory of riding someone elses leg work :shutup:

:shutup: Intention was to wind D up but the hook was a bit big.

Fuck ya... ok just for you, 'sometimes things just dont work out, shit happens and with current health and quake issues etc its just aswell'
actually harker was bloody good bout it all, good guy would still love to do the project along with the NSR400 but alas like I said the new work shop and house in the boonies has a hold up fuck it all.

dangerous
2nd January 2011, 17:21
one of the latest bike rags... features the top 10 worst bikes, guess what gets a good wright up LMFAO

sruss67
4th January 2011, 19:24
Loving this thread as it brings back memories of my MVX bought brand new in 1983 from a dealer in Adelaide, SA OZ

Never had a problem with mine and always ran hotter plugs than standard, I think they were NGK gold from memory and used good two stroke oil.

Used to travel 80km round trip to and from work on the chain of ponds road in the Adelaide Hills and she was superb to ride :yes:

May even look for another to rebuild here in Oz one day

dangerous
4th January 2011, 20:45
Never had a problem with mine and always ran hotter plugs than standard Used to travel 80km round trip to and from work BULLSHIT... :woohoo:

White trash
5th January 2011, 07:48
Loving this thread as it brings back memories of my MVX bought brand new in 1983 from a dealer in Adelaide, SA OZ

Never had a problem with mine and always ran hotter plugs than standard, I think they were NGK gold from memory and used good two stroke oil.

Used to travel 80km round trip to and from work on the chain of ponds road in the Adelaide Hills and she was superb to ride :yes:

May even look for another to rebuild here in Oz one day

Mean photos man. Glad to find another MVX nutter still lurking around.

sruss67
5th January 2011, 08:29
BULLSHIT... :woohoo:

Why would you claim bullshit when you have no idea as to my bike?

White trash
5th January 2011, 08:48
Why would you claim bullshit when you have no idea as to my bike?

Lol. Welcome to KB mate, D was just taking the piss. It's what we do.

White trash
5th January 2011, 08:56
Well, spent the last few days doing my my best to get all the engine cases cleaned and repainted in a colour and finish I'm happy with. I can get a mint finnish in Matt but semi gloss black is proving difficult. So I've grudgingly decided that I'll make do with how it looks for now, and once I get the spare bike up here I'll completely strip the cases for soda blasting and new HPC or similar. Then a ground up rebuild of the fresh cases.

Anyway, now the motor is fitted the engine covers actually dont look too bad and will be OK untill the new motor's ready.

On to the pipes and cooling system next.

dangerous
5th January 2011, 09:10
BULLSHIT... :woohoo:

Why would you claim bullshit when you have no idea as to my bike?
Ohhh pull ya head in you Ozzie poofter, It only lasted cos you lot dont know how to ride... :whistle::chase::niceone:


Lol. Welcome to KB mate, D was just taking the piss. It's what we do.
OPPS... did it again didnt I :doh:


sruss67... mate I love the MVX not as much as WT he sleeps with his, if ya look back at pages 1 and I think you will see period pics of my mates MVX's I even had the same Lazer lid as you have in your pics, farking horrid hats but did we give a shit?

vifferman
5th January 2011, 09:43
Why would you claim bullshit when you have no idea as to my bike?
You'll find that Kiwibiker is a lot more irreverent and less moderate(d) than VFRDiscussion, so don't be offended by what people post.

dangerous
5th January 2011, 13:05
You'll find that Kiwibiker is a lot more irreverent and less moderate(d) than VFRDiscussion, so don't be offended by what people post.who the hell pulled your chain... lets talk v3 250's LOL :facepalm:

vifferman
5th January 2011, 13:45
who the hell pulled your chain...
You did. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be on KB, and if it wasn't for me, sruss67 wouldn't be here. :p

White trash
5th January 2011, 13:46
You'll find that Kiwibiker is a lot more irreverent and less moderate(d) than VFRDiscussion, so don't be offended by what people post.

That and the fact that one or two of us don't give a fuck who we offend. :yes:

dangerous
5th January 2011, 14:52
That and the fact that one or two of us don't give a fuck who we offend. :yes:Give it ya best fella...


You did. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be on KB, and if it wasn't for me, sruss67 wouldn't be here. :p
WTF have I done?

RDjase
5th January 2011, 14:53
Mean photos man. Glad to find another MVX nutter still lurking around.

I think I started this whole sorry MVX resto thing, Great to see the intrest in such a loved and hated bike.

I think the blame can be put on roadracing oldfart. He mention a MVX from his proddy racing days, then i mention I had one, now Jimmy owns/restored it, scotty bought one a well.

The pic of Drew at Manfeild with the MVX is a classic !

Cant wait till the Welly 2 stroke ride, My LC road bike and 1KT TZR will be there, FridayFlash is is coming with me, am trying to round up some more bikes too

The MVX will be at the front tho ;-)

White trash
5th January 2011, 15:30
The MVX will be at the front tho ;-)

Only 'cause I'm not telling you cunts the route we're following ;)

Paul in NZ
5th January 2011, 15:58
Only 'cause I'm not telling you cunts the route we're following ;)

Yeah - and you have two bikes as well. I reckon one that you will start off on and another parked at the finish with Sue doing the shuttling...

Kickaha
5th January 2011, 16:48
The MVX will be at the front tho ;-)

Yeah? does he have a fast ute?

sruss67
5th January 2011, 17:23
Ohhh pull ya head in you Ozzie poofter, It only lasted cos you lot dont know how to ride...


Yeah funny haha except I was born in Tauranga you wanker hahahahahaha and could have ridden rings round you when I was 17 ;-)

Get back to subject and thanks vifferman for the link to here.

Great to see someone ressurrecting an MVX!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

RDjase
6th January 2011, 20:14
Ohhh pull ya head in you Ozzie poofter, It only lasted cos you lot dont know how to ride...


Yeah funny haha except I was born in Tauranga you wanker hahahahahaha and could have ridden rings round you when I was 17 ;-)

Get back to subject and thanks vifferman for the link to here.

Great to see someone ressurrecting an MVX!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

So MVXs were sold in NZ and Aus, Did they get sold in any other countries? I think I have seen the odd 1 on UK sites but then they talk about "Grey Imports"

dangerous
6th January 2011, 20:40
So MVXs were sold in NZ and Aus, Did they get sold in any other countries? I think I have seen the odd 1 on UK sites but then they talk about "Grey Imports"
just those 3 countrys as far as I know... Japan maybe LOL

White trash
27th January 2011, 12:22
Well, here we are.

Spares bike turned up yesterday at midday, BikeTranz did a mighty job for a very fair price of getting it out of Kickaha's possesion before he burned it.

Awesomely, the parts I really require are all in fantastic condition. Straight fork tubes with no rust or pitting, straight handlebars, a non rusted out tank and ignition switch with a key.

This bitch is gonna be running well before our Feb 27 2T ride.

F5 Dave
27th January 2011, 16:38
Best not start it until that morning else the clock will be ticking:msn-wink:

Kickaha
27th January 2011, 17:50
BikeTranz did a mighty job for a very fair price of getting it out of Kickaha's possesion before he burned it.

There was no gas in the tank so I couldn't light it

White trash
3rd March 2011, 13:28
The MC-09 lives!!! Still needs paint and the seat recovered, new tyres and she'll be tickedy-boo. Feast on your eyes on the glorious piece that it is.

Next, an NC-19 if someone's got one please.

RDjase
3rd March 2011, 14:07
The MC-09 lives!!! Still needs paint and the seat recovered, new tyres and she'll be tickedy-boo. Feast on your eyes on the glorious piece that it is.

Next, an NC-19 if someone's got one please.

Cool Jimmy !

Looks great, 100 times better than when I had it

MC-09, is that the Honda model code?

Whats a NC-19?

White trash
3rd March 2011, 14:28
Cool Jimmy !

Looks great, 100 times better than when I had it

MC-09, is that the Honda model code?

Whats a NC-19?

Thanks mate, looks better in the pictures than the flesh but once the paint's done, she'll be mint. MC-09 is the MVZ model code.

This is an NC-19. There's a guy up your way got one in a million bits on TM but he wants 2600 for it. I can own the one pictured for $3600 kiwi plus shipping. Just need the money.

F5 Dave
3rd March 2011, 14:29
Probably the NS250 with the faired in sidestand which added another 30k, or maybe a 400 if he's got a boner for V3s.

Actually that doesn't look too bad. well done for saving one & well done for doing it in close to prescribed timeframe.

White trash
3rd March 2011, 14:32
Probably the NS250 with the faired in sidestand which added another 30k, or maybe a 400 if he's got a boner for V3s.

Actually that doesn't look too bad. well done for saving one & well done for doing it in close to prescribed timeframe.

I've got a boner for V3s :D

Kickaha
3rd March 2011, 15:55
This is an NC-19. .

Try Yow Ling, pretty sure he had one in his shed, pretty sure he's got one of just about everything though

White trash
3rd March 2011, 15:58
Try Yow Ling, pretty sure he had one in his shed, pretty sure he's got one of just about everything though

Who the hell is Yow Ling?

Edit: Scratch that, just PM'ed him. Cheers mate.

dangerous
3rd March 2011, 16:10
The MC-09 lives!!! Still needs paint and the seat recovered, new tyres and she'll be tickedy-boo. Feast on your eyes on the glorious piece that it is.

Next, an NC-19 if someone's got one please.
Typical... ya parked on farking yellows :weird:
NC19er... wicked, Im in the process of one being my pre89 race bike... the poms have lots a goodies for them, hubba hubba ---> 233445
They are typicaly Honda tho, beter tourer than a race bike LOL and a bit bland in the PB but that can be changed.

PS: MVX looking good man.
PPS: yowling a KBer down here also knowen as stanko... sure hes sold em both tho.

White trash
6th March 2011, 07:31
Thanks to a friendly tip off, I've found a resonably priced, complete (almost) NC-19 with a spare motor!!!!!!!!!

Once the trasaction is complete, and the alloy framed beauty is in my possesion I'll post pics.

Now do I go Rothmans or Freddie Spencer rep......

Hmmmmmm, decisions decisions........

Taz
6th March 2011, 07:38
Thanks to a friendly tip off, I've found a resonably priced, complete (almost) NC-19 with a spare motor!!!!!!!!!

Once the trasaction is complete, and the alloy framed beauty is in my possesion I'll post pics.

Now do I go Rothmans or Freddie Spencer rep......

Hmmmmmm, decisions decisions........

I'd say Rothmans but cigarette advertising is illegal these days. The late 70's to mid 80's was a cool period in motorcycle design.

dangerous
6th March 2011, 08:49
Now do I go Rothmans or Freddie Spencer rep......

Hmmmmmm, decisions decisions........
Freddie, all the way... get a different tail end and modife it with two pipes in it and make a spanny to hang under... cool

White trash
6th March 2011, 08:56
Freddie, all the way... get a different tail end and modife it with two pipes in it and make a spanny to hang under... cool

While the idea is sound, I want it to be orginal like the MVX. Maybe If I find another one later I'll make a hot rod out of it. But if I won Lotto I'd just buy one of the original NS500s and roost the pre-89 senior field :D

nudemetalz
6th March 2011, 10:55
You going to get a seat cowl for the MVX also like this ?

(BTW never seen this colour scheme before on the attached pic..)

Drew
6th March 2011, 11:01
You going to get a seat cowl for the MVX also like this ?He could make one out of an icecream container I reckon. They are just a box that screws to the seat.


(BTW never seen this colour scheme before on the attached pic..)They came in three different colour schemes, white with red and blue, red with black, and whit with two tone blue.

White trash
6th March 2011, 11:01
You going to get a seat cowl for the MVX also like this ?

(BTW never seen this colour scheme before on the attached pic..)

Nah mate, not keen on the tail section to be honest. There's a dude in Singapore that seems to have aquired almost all the worlds NOS MVX parts and he's got quite a few of the Blue and White panels available. Sadly, he wants absolutely stupid money for all his parts.

Desmo guzzi
13th March 2011, 07:55
I have just been offered a complete mvx , in good nick , but with no spark ( one way of stopping piston siezures ) for $00.00. Does anyone have any theorys on why they ( reputidly ) sieze the middle pot. Have modern 2 stroke oils helped at all?
Im thinkin that being water cooled there shouldnt be a temp issue with only one pot (???)I get the feeling that running a colder plug and/or retarding the spark in the rear pot are really just going around the real problem rather that solving it

ajturbo
13th March 2011, 08:03
If WT doesn't know... or cannot help.. i would LOVE to take it off your hands..lol:baby:

White trash
13th March 2011, 08:42
I have just been offered a complete mvx , in good nick , but with no spark ( one way of stopping piston siezures ) for $00.00. Does anyone have any theorys on why they ( reputidly ) sieze the middle pot. Have modern 2 stroke oils helped at all?
Im thinkin that being water cooled there shouldnt be a temp issue with only one pot (???)I get the feeling that running a colder plug and/or retarding the spark in the rear pot are really just going around the real problem rather that solving it

Cold plugs don't do shit. I've richened mine a tad, ignition advance seemed to be all good. Running B9ES plugs all round, slightly richer on the middle pilot and main, and running decent oil. Check the oil pump for any dramas too, iv'e got mine slightly higher set than std too. Good oil means it doesn't dribble oil like I remember. Best bet is simply not to ride it :D

ajturbo
13th March 2011, 09:16
Best bet is simply not to ride it :D

what great advice for any Honda

merv
13th March 2011, 09:51
Now this is a pic I had from the 1984 Lyall Bay races and hadn't labelled it so who was number 106 on the MVX?

White trash
13th March 2011, 10:02
Now this is a pic I had from the 1984 Lyall Bay races and hadn't labelled it so who was number 106 on the MVX?

It's not Martindale is it? And why are they sitting on the rear seat? Weird.......

dangerous
13th March 2011, 11:05
I have just been offered a complete mvx , in good nick , but with no spark ( one way of stopping piston siezures ) for $00.00. Does anyone have any theorys on why they ( reputidly ) sieze the middle pot. Have modern 2 stroke oils helped at all?
Im thinkin that being water cooled there shouldnt be a temp issue with only one pot (???)I get the feeling that running a colder plug and/or retarding the spark in the rear pot are really just going around the real problem rather that solving it
Well as a refresher and to my best of knolage... Honda never set the timing up correct, adding a aftermarket progamable unit should help, possible ran on the lean side ex factory and same with the oil, other wise beter oils and cooling these days should help, and in my experance it wasent just the rear, it went more like rear left rear right rear left rear right...
NB: remember extra oil in the mix can also lean the mix so to richen the air mix should be done

blackdog
13th March 2011, 12:22
sitting on the rear seat

it's a honda. no other comment required.

RDjase
14th March 2011, 14:30
I have just been offered a complete mvx , in good nick , but with no spark ( one way of stopping piston siezures ) for $00.00. Does anyone have any theorys on why they ( reputidly ) sieze the middle pot. Have modern 2 stroke oils helped at all?
Im thinkin that being water cooled there shouldnt be a temp issue with only one pot (???)I get the feeling that running a colder plug and/or retarding the spark in the rear pot are really just going around the real problem rather that solving it

Good price for the MVX !

At the start of this thread there is ignition info and set up advice to stop engines problems.
Jimmy onto it and do what he says and it will be all good

They have 2 CDI/Igniter boxes, has your one got no spark? or just lost one or two cylinders? You wouldnt think 2 CDI's would shit themselves.

It might be something easy :cool:

Drew
14th March 2011, 14:46
Good price for the MVX !

At the start of this thread there is ignition info and set up advice to stop engines problems.
Jimmy onto it and do what he says and it will be all good

They have 2 CDI/Igniter boxes, has your one got no spark? or just lost one or two cylinders? You wouldnt think 2 CDI's would shit themselves.

It might be something easy :cool:

You can kick an MVX all day, but if it's got a flat battery it won't spark no matter how good the charging system is.

Perhaps chuck some jumper leads on and check it out.

Dumb fuckin Hondas!

RDjase
14th March 2011, 14:54
You can kick an MVX all day, but if it's got a flat battery it won't spark no matter how good the charging system is.

Perhaps chuck some jumper leads on and check it out.

Dumb fuckin Hondas!

LC and RZ are good like that that since there Mag CDI and dont run off a battery, all the battery does on a RZ is the YPVS servo motor

I remember to to get Jimmys bike going I run my LC's battery to power the CDI/Igniter box, sparked straight away

F5 Dave
14th March 2011, 16:34
LC and RZ are good like that that since there Mag CDI and dont run off a battery, all the battery does on a RZ is the YPVS servo motor

I remember to to get Jimmys bike going I run my LC's battery to power the CDI/Igniter box, sparked straight away
Then you go fit a programable ign like a Zeeltronics & you need volts to get going or you can kick till the cows come. Dumb progress.

RDjase
14th March 2011, 17:52
Then you go fit a programable ign like a Zeeltronics & you need volts to get going or you can kick till the cows come. Dumb progress.

Same thing with the Ignitech I got for my 90 degree crank, it and all the other bits are waiting patiently in a box.

Desmo guzzi
15th March 2011, 10:08
Thanks for the tips guys . I havn't even had a look see yet ( feining disinterest), but the owner has hooked up another battery so the no volts thing might go somewhere, electrix I can do but I already have a pretty comprehensive collection of fucked pistons, even some in matching sets , and I dont want to add to it, so all tips are appreciated , can anyone reccomend a manual for it
Thanks

White trash
15th March 2011, 10:42
Thanks for the tips guys . I havn't even had a look see yet ( feining disinterest), but the owner has hooked up another battery so the no volts thing might go somewhere, electrix I can do but I already have a pretty comprehensive collection of fucked pistons, even some in matching sets , and I dont want to add to it, so all tips are appreciated , can anyone reccomend a manual for it
Thanks

Sounds totally fucked, don't touch it. I'll take it off your hands for a box of Heinekin. You're welcome.

F5 Dave
15th March 2011, 13:33
I think I'd rather have the MVX. I did have some Heinekin left at my place, I had to give that away too.

White trash
15th March 2011, 14:15
Lol. In response to the "Hyo" tags down the bottom. I had an inpromptu (sp) drag race with a 2011 Hyo GT250R a couple of weeks ago from the lights on the Hutt Road. After (literally) smoking the young fella, he pulls up next to me at the next lights and yells, "Dude, I think there's something wrong with your bike, it's smoking like hell!" Wont name names but it sounds like some young fellas have never heard of a two stroke. eh Emilio? :D

Desmo guzzi
15th March 2011, 19:25
Sorry WT , I may have misled you ,whilst I do have a truly awesome fucked piston collection ,all are from previous (umm, ah , lets call them ) "experiances" none are MVX ones.....................................yet:niceo ne:

White trash
15th March 2011, 19:28
Sorry WT , I may have misled you ,whilst I do have a truly awesome fucked piston collection ,all are from previous (umm, ah , lets call them ) "experiances" none are MVX ones.....................................yet:niceo ne:

All good mate, I look forward to seeing another MVX being returned to its former glory and hopefully getting a few running ones in one place at one time.

Kickaha
15th March 2011, 20:07
hopefully getting a few running ones in one place at one time.

What a fucking comedian :rolleyes:

F5 Dave
21st March 2011, 13:21
Re reading back issues of CMM & look what I find?

. . .oh dear. . .

Desmo guzzi
21st March 2011, 16:40
Thanks for that F5Dave . Cheers

dangerous
21st March 2011, 18:00
Re reading back issues of CMM & look what I find?

. . .oh dear. . .

haha... good read man, poor old VF750 being picked on again as for the CBX550, kinda think it was all auto tensinors of that area, but like the VF it was an easy fix, so not a biggie :shutup:

F5 Dave
22nd March 2011, 08:31
Well it was the Honda auto tensioners of that era. Didn't get that problem on a Suzuki or a Yamaha. Maybe a mid weight Kawi,. . . but every bleeding 'orrible 'onda.

Desmo guzzi
9th February 2012, 08:27
Well the thing is now in my garage, and I have a honda w/shop manual for it ........ let the dissapointment begin .
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/bordi1/P1050351.jpg

nudemetalz
9th February 2012, 08:37
It actually looks half reasonable to me.
Good luck !!

Drew
9th February 2012, 13:34
Well the thing is now in my garage, and I have a honda w/shop manual for it ........ let the dissapointment begin .
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/bordi1/P1050351.jpg


It actually looks half reasonable to me.
Good luck !!There is only one criteria for a "reasonable" MVX. Does it run on three? If no, the project is completely academic I'm afraid.

Don't run it too long without baffles in the pipes by the way. Bleeding off too much from the expansion chambers can cause lean running according to the 2 stroke tuning bible I have here.

dangerous
9th February 2012, 16:32
Well the thing is now in my garage, and I have a honda w/shop manual for it ........ let the dissapointment begin .
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/bordi1/P1050351.jpg
ummm whos was that one?
and umm have ya seen my add
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/146554-MVXs-could-be-your-dream-come-true

F5 Dave
14th February 2013, 14:54
Practical Sportsbike Mag has an MVX resto featured.

Almost makes you. . . .naaah:lol:

63 kiwikid
17th November 2013, 20:19
Now this is a pic I had from the 1984 Lyall Bay races and hadn't labelled it so who was number 106 on the MVX?

It is Glen Holden. Brother of Robert.

merv
17th November 2013, 21:45
It is Glen Holden. Brother of Robert.

Thanks for updating us on that.

2smokes
30th August 2014, 19:21
Old thread dredge.
I need MVX parts.
I have MVX parts.
If you have something to sell or you have a part you need, PM me. Always keen to help out fellow sufferers.

celtickiwi
12th September 2015, 23:04
Old thread dredge.
I need MVX parts.
I have MVX parts.
If you have something to sell or you have a part you need, PM me. Always keen to help out fellow sufferers.

I'm looking for an oil pump for one if you got one ,might be needing a few other bits also

SouthCantMan
2nd January 2017, 16:40
Finally dragging the MVX250 out of the workshop corner and have stripped it done to start restoration.

Always on the lookout for parts or affordable complete bikes because hoarding is what I know


Also restoring an old MOT CB650.

Please message me if you have any of the above.

Thanks :-)

actungbaby
2nd January 2017, 17:15
Finally dragging the MVX250 out of the workshop corner and have stripped it done to start restoration.

Always on the lookout for parts or affordable complete bikes because hoarding is what I know


Also restoring an old MOT CB650.

Please message me if you have any of the above.

Thanks :-)

guy on trademe tintin1212 has ns 250 parts not sure of the mvx message me

and i give you a few web sites i have found

SouthCantMan
31st October 2017, 21:19
I'm still picking away slowly at the MVX250F, well ok.. a better one I found since.
Oddly now have 6 of the things in various stages from piles of parts to a complete bikes.
Still looking for others and parts new or used.
It's a sickness I tell ya!!

Located in Timaru Sth Cant
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