London is rooted

[jimbo600]

Probably cop a bit of grief for this but:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/2871558/Most-popular-baby-name-in-London-Mohammed

Mohammed is the most common name for baby boys born in London and three other English regions, official Government figures have shown.

The Islamic name overtook traditional choices like Jack, Thomas and Daniel to become the number one name in the West Midlands, Yorkshire and the Humber/North West as well as in the capital, in 2008.

The figures emerged in a detailed regional breakdown of figures published last week by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), Britain's Daily Telelgraph reported.

When various spellings of the Islamic prophet are added together - including Muhammad, Mohammad, Mohamed and Muhammed - the name is now more than twice as popular in London as the capital's second-ranked boys name, Daniel.

There were 1828 baby boys given the name Mohammed, including varients, in 2008, compared with only 844 who were called Daniel.

London is not the first European capital to see Mohammed become the number one name for baby boys. In Brussels, Amsterdam, Copenhagen and Oslo the name has already gained the top slot.

Experts believe that internationally around 15 million people are called Mohammed, making it the most popular male name in the world.

Murtaza Shibli of the Muslim Council of Britain said he was not surprised to find Mohammed had become the most popular boys name in parts of the country.

"People choose it because of their love of the prophet Mohammed, and they believe the name will bring happiness and abundance," he said.

"Also because of its meaning - the praised one. Also there is a belief that if you do name your children Mohammed they will follow the good example of the prophet.

"There are so many spellings because it is an Arabic name and there are different ways of translating it into English."


Say hello to the islamification of the UK. Militant types over there too.

[98tls]

Seems little Englands not far behind.

[PrincessBandit]

Their plan is world domination after all, so they're well on the way....??

[jimbo600]

Yep, if your not Muslim your an infidel. One of there tenets is to make the World Islam, and thats from the moderate ones.

[mattian]

Their plan is world domination after all, so they're well on the way....??

we live in a Global community and the world is getting smaller and smaller. In the future there will be no borders and only one race.... the human race. You can either fight it, or accept it.

[98tls]

we live in a Global community and the world is getting smaller and smaller. In the future there will be no borders and only one race.... the human race. You can either fight it, or accept it. If acceptance isnt an option then fuck it,blow it up

[Katman]

In the future there will be no borders and only one race.... the human race. You can either fight it, or accept it.

Yeah, with one religion. Islam.

Thank fuck I'm not likely to still be here.

[ital916]

Thank fuck I'm not likely to still be here.

Ding dong the witch is dead!

Which old witch? The wicked witch!




As for islam......it is a very narrow minded religion. Followers expect others to bend over backwards to accomodate their needs but do not give the same courtesy back. Though I have met a few very friendly and extremely nice muslims, I am loath to say it is a religion I am not too fond of.

Mind you the Qu'ran has been so misquoted, killing is wrong in any religion and to do so is to show you know nothing of the faith in which you follow.


“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” [Al-Qur’an 5:32]

[Milts]

Yep, if your not Muslim your an infidel. One of there tenets is to make the World Islam, and thats from the moderate ones.

Sounds pretty similar to the catholic church to me.

[zahria]

Be interesting being a school teacher in 5 years...

[Magua]

It's a fairly stupid article. Mohammed may be the most popular name, but that doesn't mean that islam nor arabs are taking over London.

Just because that name is popular, that does not mean that they're the majority. For example, in the United States, Protestants make up the greatest proportion of the Christian population, yet Catholics are the biggest denomination (due to how many protestant churches there are).

Back in school, how many double ups of names can you recall in your classes? In all my time there were only two classes I can recall which had two people with the same name, two Andrews and two Duncans.

Mohammed may the single most popular name, but islamic/arabic names are still a minority.

[Elysium]

England is slowly paying the price for letting too many imigrants into their country. They've clamped down now but I think it may be too late.

[98tls]

England is slowly paying the price for letting to many imigrants into their country. They've clamped down now but I think it may be too late. A process began many decades ago,and yea way to late.Just like little England.

[Mully]

Durka Durka. Mohammed. Jihad.

[Dafe]

Fooken Hell - You've only just tied the knot and you're already studying up on the kiddies names.... :blip:

[Molly]

Be interesting being a school teacher in 5 years...

Why in five years? The classroom's already like a league of nations anyway (much more so here than back in the UK). It's no bad thing for Kiwi kids to meet and learn with lots of kids from overseas.

[mashman]

A process began many decades ago,and yea way to late.Just like little England.

My old man often yaps on about the government letting in the windies in the 50's, but that's the price of progress... Personally i couldn't give a flyer who lives where, what religion (there are NO PURE religions in my eyes and never have been) people are, colour, gender bias etc... In the words of Agent Smith, "it's inevitable" How m,any people in China? How many in India etc... they're bound to be cross populating somewhere along the lines and the quicker we all get on with it, the better off the world will be... i'll put the pipe down now as i'm starting to believe things that i shouldn't... Eutopia ha ha ha !!!!! it'll never happen

[Dave Lobster]

It's no bad thing for Kiwi kids to meet and learn with lots of kids from overseas.

That would depend entirely on what they're being taught.

[Molly]

The same things they'd be being taught if the overseas kids weren't there. I've a Y12 class with kids from Italy, Germany, China, Japan, the UK etc. etc. etc. The list goes on. Can't say that the kids are in a hurry to learn all about each other but I still see it as a positive.

[98tls]

That would depend entirely on what they're being taught.

Same old story,nobody bothers with the search button,Bomb makings pretty accessible these days.

[Marmoot]

It's not surprising. WIth all the poms coming over to NZ, there must not be many left in England.

On the other side, the name jack, smith, bob and the kind seems to be overtaking tua, pita, and rangi.

[98tls]

It's not surprising. WIth all the poms coming over to NZ, there must not be many left in England.

On the other side, the name jack, smith, bob and the kind seems to be overtaking tua, pita, and rangi. Funny that,Pua still seems to be on the decline.

[Dafe]

It's not surprising. WIth all the poms coming over to NZ, there must not be many left in England.

On the other side, the name jack, smith, bob and the kind seems to be overtaking tua, pita, and rangi.

By other side, Do you mean Jack Zhan, Li Smith and Bob Chen?

[jimbo600]

By other side, Do you mean Jack Zhan, Li Smith and Bob Chen?

Jeez dude you're on fire tonight. Plenty of Chens starting up in your homeland bro'

[pete376403]

England is slowly paying the price for letting too many imigrants into their country. They've clamped down now but I think it may be too late.
Not only England - most of Europe. Very good article here:
http://www.sappho.dk/interview-a-continent-of-losers.htm
(Bits of it could apply to south Auckland, too)

[zahria]

Why in five years? The classroom's already like a league of nations anyway (much more so here than back in the UK). It's no bad thing for Kiwi kids to meet and learn with lots of kids from overseas.

Concur, but having a class full of Muhumad's would be interesting.

[McJim]

So British Muslims lack imagination. Tell me something I didn't know.:girlfight:

[mynameis]

Hi my name's Muhammad and I am from London Englaaaaand :lol:

Aaaaah.

[SPman]

England is slowly paying the price for letting too many imigrants into their country. They've clamped down now but I think it may be too late.
Something about "sow the wind and reap the whirlwind", perhaps. England fucked over many countries over the last few centuries...now the chickens are coming home to roost........

[mynameis]

Something about "sow the wind and reap the whirlwind", perhaps. England fucked over many countries over the last few centuries...now the chickens are coming home to roost........

Tooo true + 10 char

[Dafe]

Watch this space..... Won't be long before there's a Mohammad class in motorcycling.

[Dave Lobster]

Watch this space..... Won't be long before there's a Mohammad class in motorcycling.

Would that be the class where nobody finishes the race without blowing up? :)

[Hinny]

England fucked over many countries over the last few centuries...now the chickens are coming home to roost........

There should be no argument that they were the most benevolent colonising power.

[James Deuce]

Yep, if your not Muslim your an infidel. One of there tenets is to make the World Islam, and thats from the moderate ones.

Just like if you aren't Jewish you're Gentile, not Christian you're a Heathen.

No world spanning religion is above radical militaristic expansion. It's just that of the two religions I mentioned, one stopped being arse hats after Masada, and the other after the 4th crusade, though the latter did create 300 years of political ruckus that almost stymied the Renaissance and the concepts that give Westerners their limited personal freedoms today.

All religion sucks.

[bane]

It's a fairly stupid article. Mohammed may be the most popular name, but that doesn't mean that islam nor arabs are taking over London.

agree

Daniel may be second most popular, chosen for perhaps 4% of non muslim boys born in London.

Muhummad (and it's various spellings) on the other hand, is used to name upwards of 60% of all muslim boys born in London.

Do the math and it's hardly a takeover... lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[ready4whatever]

In the future there will be no borders and only one race.... the human race. You can either fight it, or accept it.

I'd fight it if i was still around by then. with 75 percent of the world being asian, id say we will end up looking like them. But yeah who knows how long humans will last, hate the feeling of thinking it could be soon

[Hinny]

It's just that of the two religions I mentioned, one stopped being arse hats after Masada,...

All religion sucks.

Surely you can't be serious.

[merv]

I suppose all the real Poms have emigrated.

Crikey in our great city of Porirua we even have guys by the name of Jim these days with pale skin, not just brown fellahs called Hemi.

When I was in London in January the laugh was trying to get a meal, none of the waitresses spoke English, but it didn't matter they were all spunky looking hotties from eastern Europe, not waiters called Muhammed. I'm going back next week just to see if they are still there lol :2thumbsup.

[mattian]

I'd fight it if i was still around by then. with 75 percent of the world being asian, id say we will end up looking like them. But yeah who knows how long humans will last, hate the feeling of thinking it could be soon

why are people so afraid???? your culture is not about to be wiped off the face of the earth.... neither is your race. Change happens over time and won't even be noticed. When you see an interacial couple.... for example, a chinese wife and a european husband with a small child living here in NZ. Do you feel sorry for that child?

[Dave Lobster]

why are people so afraid???? your culture is not about to be wiped off the face of the earth.... neither is your race. Change happens over time and won't even be noticed.

Go to Yorkshire in England. Change has happened there within one generation.

[Shorty_925]

It's a fairly stupid article. Mohammed may be the most popular name, but that doesn't mean that islam nor arabs are taking over London.



Been to Willesden or Halesden lately?

[XRVrider]

Been to Willesden or Halesden lately?

Shit, doesnt even have to be lately, I lived there for ages, and its always been a melting pot, but then all big cities are. Its just the UK's immigration laws are soft and let in nearly anybody who can use one of many angles to gain residency.

Loads of areas have had racial violence and its getting worse. Could explain why the British National Party has more support than ever. Maybe their previous Govt's shouldnt have gone sooo politically correct on other races and over-equal opportunity. Every man and his dog and extended family are moving there, as the standard of living and job opportunities are far better than where they came from.

On the positive side, there's a million different takeaway food outlets to choose from, and the corner stores are open all night and have a nice atmosphere as they are family run. Plenty of fruit and veg shops too.

[TomJ]

having been back to UK three times this year is is amazing how quickly it has changed in 2 yrs since we left. whether it is racial influence or not the country seems in a mess and without clear direction. NZ seems to know where it is going and pretty confident as a nation. We enjoy that positive approach to life

[Shorty_925]

On the positive side, there's a million different takeaway food outlets to choose from, and the corner stores are open all night and have a nice atmosphere as they are family run. Plenty of fruit and veg shops too.

Willesden Green has a massive tower outside the tube now, in the 6months i was away for, it went from a small structure to this huge huge tower, looked like they put plenty of cash into it.

As for the food, yes great choice, but after seeing how they got from the truck to the shop, i wouldnt be rusing in...though the best memory is on the way home after a few beers, biting into some chicken and finding it completely frozen on the inside! Some pissed up aussie come over then picked it up and ate it!! :rofl:

[Hinny]

Looks like the prophetic words of Enoch Powell have become a reality.

Are cultures worth saving or should we just put everyone into a great big melting pot and turn out coffee coloured people by the score?

[XRVrider]

Willesden Green has a massive tower outside the tube now, in the 6months i was away for, it went from a small structure to this huge huge tower, looked like they put plenty of cash into it.

As for the food, yes great choice, but after seeing how they got from the truck to the shop, i wouldnt be rusing in...though the best memory is on the way home after a few beers, biting into some chicken and finding it completely frozen on the inside! Some pissed up aussie come over then picked it up and ate it!! :rofl:


So even old Willesden Green is getting a make over. Bout time they suped up the tube station too.

My fave food was walking home with a Kebab from the Marathon Kebab shop in Chalk Farm. Then crapping through the eye of a needle for the rest of the weekend, ha ha.

[want-a-harley]

having been back to UK three times this year is is amazing how quickly it has changed in 2 yrs since we left. whether it is racial influence or not the country seems in a mess and without clear direction. NZ seems to know where it is going and pretty confident as a nation. We enjoy that positive approach to life

The fact that Gordon Brown doesn't know his arse from his elbow?