Question.

[beyond]

Should anyone be able to come onto this site and share their experiences good or bad with others and not be villified and put down?

Should we all be able to give pointers to others and hope that as a result they might get enough from it in order to preserve their skin during future rides?

Are we all intelligent enough to know what is safe for us as an individual and what is not and ride accordingly?

Why do some find it necessary to pull others down and get the boot in when they get online to share something? Is it because they want to look better themselves by putting someone else down?

My understanding is that this site is an open forum open to all members to post and share what they think is pertinent at the time and to try and help others get more enjoyment out of what we all get a lot of fun from.

Maybe I should have been born in another generation but I am passionate about motorcycling and enjoy it immensely. I like to share my experiences in word or video but I don't expect to get treated like shit from some individuals who think it's their moral duty to put others down and make out like they are the Guru of all things good and proper.

I think most of us are mature enough to pick the meat from the bones from what gets posted on this site.... but at times I wonder. There is a lot of pooled wisdom amongst the members and a lot of knowledge and if this is harnessed and shared, then a lot of people can learn from experience and not make the same mistakes that a lot of us have in the past.

I do not profess to be an expert, but I've passed half a century, been riding on and off since 17 years old and done countless hundreds of thousands of K's on bikes. I admit to riding reasonably hard but that's the level I ride at because I function best at that level and enjoy it the most.

I do get pissed off when I post and all the negative tut tut shit starts coming out. I am sure there are people that want to learn a lot of stuff but I know many people that will no longer post because of all the crap that goes down and the mindless shit they have to read through to glean the facts. Many of these people have years of experience and much to pass on.....

Rant over.

[Elysium]

This isn't to do with Katman or someting is it? :lol:

[beyond]

This isn't to do with Katman or someting is it? :lol:

Amongst others :)

[Headbanger]

The road is not a race track.

[rosie631]

Can be a bit disheartening when you post something in good faith and then get rubbished. I find it's the same people who continually post the negative and unhelpful comments. I think a lot of us just skip over their posts as soon as we see their avatar e.g. _ _ _ mans.

[nallac]

The road is a race track.

bloody hell, i have to correct ya in two threads...

[98tls]

Thing is its the interweb as in open to all,you have the freedom to post pretty much whatever but no control over what comes back.Dont sweat it,say your piece and leave it at that.Remember that when you post your experiances thats what they are,others have different ones which form different opinions.

[rosie631]

A certain amount of good natured piss taking is fine with me tho. Have to have a bit of a laugh.

[FJRider]

It is up to the individual KB'r on what he/she regards as good or bad advice.

Such is life.

If you dont like people disagreeing with you ... another site .... maybe ????

[Grahameeboy]

Thing is its the interweb as in open to all,you have the freedom to post pretty much whatever but no control over what comes back.Dont sweat it,say your piece and leave it at that.Remember that when you post your experiances thats what they are,others have different ones which form different opinions.

Domo Sensei............

[beyond]

The road is not a race track.

Records stuck in the groove :)

[Grahameeboy]

It is up to the individual KB'r on what he/she regards as good or bad advice.

Such is life.

If you dont like people disagreeing with you ... another site .... maybe ????

Agreed but there is too much negativity still

[Headbanger]

Records stuck in the groove :)

Loud pipes save lives......:banana:

[Coldrider]

Everything is wide open to debate, we are not one eyed you know.

[MadDuck]

A certain amount of good natured piss taking is fine with me tho. Have to have a bit of a laugh.

Just like your signature ah? Some of us just see it as funny......

[beyond]

Loud pipes save lives......:banana:

LOL.... heard that record too.

[Grahameeboy]

Loud pipes save lives......:banana:
A stitch in time saves nine

Band bang.....a man laughing his head off

[Grahameeboy]

LOL.... heard that record too.

Beyond..showing your age mate...it's CD's now dude....

[nallac]

Mate, come on Beyond,
you've been on here long enough to know there are shit givers going to give there perspective on how bad a person you are....blah fucking blah.......
SPEED KILLS KIDS blah fuckin Blah..etc

and there are people like ME who like your take on riding,
cool vids,and some serious takes on the aspects of riding.

Don't let the fucking naysayers get ya down............

[Headbanger]

LOL.... heard that record too.

Helmet laws suck, Let those who ride Decide.

Im all out of catch phrases, and this one normally earns me a red rep.LMFAO.

[FJRider]

Agreed but there is too much negativity still

Agreed ... but as I said, such is life. :(

[nallac]

Helmet laws suck, Let those who ride Decide.

hell yeah, if ya don't appreciate ya noggin, go naked....

[Grahameeboy]

Agreed ... but as I said, such is life. :(

Okay you win..............

[beyond]

Beyond..showing your age mate...it's CD's now dude....

Oh yeah..... and Blue Ray and HD and 1020P and .... :)

[Coldrider]

Oh yeah..... and Blue Ray and HD and 1020P and .... :)
Good ol casette been & gone but making a comeback.

[MadDuck]

Okay you win..............

That was way too easy

[98tls]

Biggest contributors to motorcycle accidents in NZ are once again the non-wavers,cunts the lot of em,everything always eventually comes back to them:mad:heathen.

[beyond]

hell yeah, if ya don't appreciate ya noggin, go naked....

Way to go... wonder what naked would be like on a naked bike..... uuuhhhmmm, maybe not. Cancel that thought.

[Grahameeboy]

Oh yeah..... and Blue Ray and HD and 1020P and .... :)

1020p...wasn't that the American boy girl series

[Grahameeboy]

That was way too easy

Who let you in...........

[MadDuck]

Who let you in...........

I heard there was an amnesty on Harley bashing tonight so thought I would test the water :lol:

[nallac]

I heard there was an amnesty on Harley bashing tonight so thought I would test the water :lol:


so we can bash Hardley riders with no recourse?????

[grusomhat]

Because the internet gives this beautiful anonymity that allows people to comment on others without regard to ethnicity, age, sex, etc. With that comes people giving their honest opinions to others without any fear.

It takes a truly open minded person to survive the wild world that is the internet. You'll need to learn who to listen to and when to reference advice. You'll also need an ability to ignore the trolls that feed on fools who are beckoned to feed them.

Welcome to the internet, the world has never been the same since ARPA.

[Headbanger]

hell yeah, if ya don't appreciate ya noggin, go naked....

My old boy tells me tales of when he was a lad roaring around with no helmets, 6 of them left the house, roared through town and then home again, Only 5 made it home.

They went looking for the missing rider, Found him a couple km from the house, He had come off his bike, he had slid down the road with his head against the gutter and worn most of it off, Dad says there was brain matter and gore smattererd all the way along the gutter, and his old mate with no head.

And in conclusion, some bullshit on the internet is fuck all of nothing.Punch on people,Punch on.

[beyond]

Biggest contributors to motorcycle accidents in NZ are once again the non-wavers,cunts the lot of em,everything always eventually comes back to them:mad:heathen.

Hey .. bang on with that one. Even when they stop on the side of the road and are lying down for a rest they don't wave then either. What's with that? Blame them all.

[nallac]

My old boy tells me tales of when he was a lad roaring around with no helmets, 6 of them left the house, roared through town and then home again, Only 5 made it home.

They went looking for the missing rider, Found him a couple km from the house, He had come off his bike, he had slid down the road with his head against the gutter and worn most of it off, Dad says there was brain matter and gore smattererd all the way along the gutter, and his old mate with no head.

And in conclusion, some bullshit on the internet is fuck all of nothing.Punch on people,Punch on.

its all the councils fault if they hadn't put the gutter there he'd been allright

for fucks sake gotta shift the blame somehow.......fucking councils!

[CookMySock]

Everything is wide open to debate, we are not one eyed you know.Yup. Overall though, everyone has feelings and families. We're all the same in that respect.

Everyone believes something different, and some topics really bring out those differences.. Like this topic for example - Insurance is a waste of time - you don't need it. Cunts like me who aren't insured will just rip you off. See thats a good example of a couple of sentences that will cause a massive fallout. :girlfight:

Lets remember also, we are perfectly sane human beings in real life. Uh well, most of us anyway.

KB has really taught me to not take shit to heart. So light a fire under some thread and sit back and enjoy the beautiful flames! MMMMmmmm. :hug:

Steve

[98tls]

Hey .. bang on with that one. Even when they stop on the side of the road and are lying down for a rest they don't wave then either. What's with that? Blame them all. Thats the ones,lazy bastards.When felling particularly heathen like i venture out with inappropriate safety gear and dont wave.:banana::banana:

[Maha]

Mate, come on Beyond,
you've been on here long enough to know there are shit givers going to give there perspective on how bad a person you are....blah fucking blah.......
SPEED KILLS KIDS blah fuckin Blah..etc

and there are people like ME who like your take on riding,
cool vids,and some serious takes on the aspects of riding.

Don't let the fucking naysayers get ya down............

Agreed, its only a small faction that chant and rant. Paul seems a well educated and level headed bloke, the bullshit that gets delivered on here at times is unwarrented in my view, which is why I tend to stay clear of some threads. I have a glance from time to time but by this wonderful thing called 'chioce'...I move on.

[beyond]

Yeah, it's all the councils fault.... with the rates we all pay they could use rubber lined gutters and then we'd all be safe.

[nallac]

Yup. Overall though, everyone has feelings and families. We're all the same in that respect.

Everyone believes something different, and some topics really bring out those differences.. Like this topic for example - Insurance is a waste of time - you don't need it. Cunts like me who aren't insured will just rip you off. See thats a good example of a couple of sentences that will cause a massive fallout. :girlfight:

Lets remember also, we are perfectly sane human beings in real life. Uh well, most of us anyway.

KB has really taught me to not take shit to heart. So light a fire under some thread and sit back and enjoy the beautiful flames! MMMMmmmm. :hug:

Steve

so you're the cunt that makes my insurance so expensive.....

so expensive i don't have it...:buggerd:

[MadDuck]

so expensive i don't have it...:buggerd:

How very irresponsible of you.... :oi-grr:

[nallac]

How very irresponsible of you.... :oi-grr:

me never....its all DB's fault...as hes said...

[AllanB]

so we can bash Hardley riders with no recourse?????

Harley riders have broad shoulders - they need them with those wide bars :banana:


Beyond - I hear ya.

I'm all on for a good debate and welcome all opinions provided they are actually backed with something of substance. The personal attacks are pointless.

Piss taking of fellow KBers should be encouraged. :2thumbsup

[AllanB]

The personal attacks are pointless.

Typical Homo Honda rider. :lol:

[AllanB]

Typical Homo Honda rider. :lol:

Fuck you ya bastard, your Mother AND your sister know otherwise.

[Ixion]

Should anyone be able to come onto this site and share their experiences good or bad with others and not be villified and put down?

..

No.

He's a witch.

Burn him !

[beyond]

Fuck you ya bastard, your Mother AND your sister know otherwise.

LOL you know what they say about people who talk to themselves. :)

[MadDuck]

Fuck you ya bastard, your Mother AND your sister know otherwise.

The Mods should infract your ass for being abusive to yourself .....

[nallac]

Fuck you ya bastard, and my Mother AND my sister again

:lol:must spread rep.......

yip ya mums pretty good an ya sis aint all that bad.....

[rosie631]

Just like your signature ah? Some of us just see it as funny......

Given that I ride a Harley, it's meant to be funny.

[nallac]

The Mods should infract your ass for being abusive to yourself .....


theres nothing wrong with self abuse is there?

[AllanB]

The Mods should infract your ass for being abusive to yourself .....

:lol::lol::lol:

I can take it all (said the Honda rider) - it's when I start physically hitting myself I get upset. :girlfight:

[98tls]

Fuck you ya bastard, your Mother AND your sister know otherwise. :rofl::pinch:Bugger run outta bling.

[beyond]

:lol::lol::lol:

I can take it all (said the Honda rider) - it's when I start physically hitting myself I get upset. :girlfight:

Self harms not healthy apparently.

[Elysium]

theres nothing wrong with self abuse is there?

You emo? :shifty:

[nallac]

:lol::lol::lol:

I can take it all (said the Honda rider) - it's when I start physically hitting on myself I get upset. :girlfight:


now thats just wrong....

[YellowDog]

Oh yeah..... and Blue Ray and HD and 1020P and .... :)
Bum steer :buggerd:

I think you'll find it's 1080p !!!

[beyond]

:rofl::pinch:Bugger run outta bling.

I'm always running out of that stuff, can ya buy more?

[nallac]

You emo? :shifty:

now if i knew what that mean't, i'd answer that?

[98tls]

I'm always running out of that stuff, can ya buy more? No doubt,everyones a whore,thing to do is find out how much a mod costs.;)

[Ixion]

now if i knew what that mean't, i'd answer that?


He's asking if you cut yourself.

[nallac]

He's asking if you cut yourself.

what?, when shaving?.....

[Ixion]

Oh goodness. You *must* be old. Go find grandchildren and ask them to explain.

'S all tied with Goths n stuff. You probably are (an emo), most of KB seems to be.

[Headbanger]

You probably are (an emo), most of KB seems to be.

God damn that made me laugh.:banana::banana::banana::banana:

[beyond]

Oh goodness. You *must* be old. Go find grandchildren and ask them to explain.

'S all tied with Goths n stuff. You probably are (an emo), most of KB seems to be.

LOL... bordering on cycnical there Ixion :)

[mossy1200]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJfwpeqzIk&feature=PlayList&p=45F529B34737CD66&index=2

[AllanB]

He's asking if you cut yourself.

Has he turned Jewish?


A Jewish boy goes and gets his foreskin snipped.

After the snip he asks the guy who cut it off what he does with the little bits of skin.

The man replies that he sews them together and makes luggage travel bags.

The boy is impressed and asks to see one of these foreskin luggage bags.

The man pulls a small beautifully made bag out of his pocket, however it is only the size of a coin purse (ask Carver he'll have one).

Confused the boy questions why the bag is so small as you could not fit anything in it.

The man laughs and spits onto the small bag and starts rubbing it vigorously and states 'in a couple of minutes it will be the size of a large suitcase.'

[nallac]

Oh goodness. You *must* be old. Go find grandchildren and ask them to explain.

'S all tied with Goths n stuff. You probably are (an emo), most of KB seems to be.

i must be a emo...cause i have cut myself shaving.....

[CookMySock]

How very irresponsible of you.... :oi-grr:Slap him!


me never....its all DB's fault...as hes said...Hehe, cant be - I'm never wrong, LOL..


The Mods should infract your ass for being abusive to yourself .....Self abuse is good for you!

Steve

[beyond]

i must be a emo...cause i have cut myself shaving.....

lol :) :)

[nallac]

lol :) :)


what you laughing at?.....

it fucking hurts when ya knick ya nuts when shaving em.....:lol:

[MadDuck]

Slap him!

Hell no! He would probably enjoy it to much

[98tls]

what you laughing at?.....

it fucking hurts when ya knick ya nuts when shaving em.....:lol:
Get the Mrs to put her teeth in and pull em out.;)

[nallac]

Get the Mrs to put her teeth in and pull em out.;)


pull what outa where?...

[boomer]

lol :) :)


CoroGP on Sunday if you fancy.. txt me for details !


AMAC©Kornholio industries

[hospitalfood]

Should anyone be able to come onto this site and share their experiences good or bad with others and not be villified and put down?

.

hell no! find another forum like kiwiknitter or something equally ghey

[ManDownUnder]

Should anyone be able to come onto this site and share their experiences good or bad with others and not be villified and put down?
YES!!!!!!!!!!


Rant over.
No rant - bloody good post - I ran out of bling.

[Deano]

Oh goodness. You *must* be old. Go find grandchildren and ask them to explain.

'S all tied with Goths n stuff. You probably are (an emo), most of KB seems to be.

I wish my lawn was EMO. Then it would cut itself !

[bogan]

think ill add my 2c to the original post.
It is an open forum, everyone gets a say, but some people on here seem to think they get more of say than others, and repeatedly post bullshit and take threads off track. Say your piece, and get over if its not acknowledged I reckon. Let the majority have a decent discusion.

[FJRider]

Let the majority have a decent discusion.

Majority ... decent discussion ????? .... a contradiction in terms :calm:

[98tls]

Majority ... decent discussion ????? .... a contradiction in terms :calm: :lol:Truth be known the majority of interweb motorcyclists wouldnt know the front end of one from the back,worse still they would profess an opinion on both.That said theres plenty on here that know there stuff.Bit like a circus theres always far more clowns than anything else.

[Katman]

I do not profess to be an expert,

I'm pleased to hear it.

I think you're a reckless fool.

[rosie631]

I'm pleased to hear it.

I think you're a reckless retard.

No one cares what you think

[Usarka]

There's a solution when you're hearing the same whinging stuck record bleat every time you say something.

In real life its "get the fuck out of my life you soul-sucking bitch (and btw I shagged your sister)".

In KB it's called the ignore button! :wari:

[sondela]

We're all born and we all die, that's the only thing that is the same for everyone, but it is also the circle, and the glory of life.

Without bad to give meaning to good, there'd be no joy in it, no appreciation of warmth without experience of cold for contrast.

The internet would be a vast empty space devoid of life if everything in it was goodness and light, it moves and it grows as does life, by the interaction, the controversy that causes healthy debate, and
gives everyone out there, a chance to say what they think.

People with experiences to share, good and bad, will share, and because they do, the internet enriches all of us, and it grows!

I say, good on you Beyond, you love biking and you feel strongly enough to want to share, and extend that enjoyment, and because you feel this honestly, you will pass on the joy, you will benefit
some, and piss some off, and (apparently) drive some to distraction,

but it's all good!

It's life, it is how we move the great wheel on, (or in our case, two wheels.. :D )

[Maha]

There's a solution when you're hearing the same whinging stuck record bleat every time you say something.

In real life its "get the fuck out of my life you soul-sucking bitch (and btw I shagged your sister)".

In KB it's called the ignore button! :wari:

A function that I dont use, its real easy not to get caught up someone elses negative thought process. There is another 'couple' that are viewed in the same light, but like Dire Straights once said ''Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong''.

[short-circuit]

Should anyone be able to come onto this site and share their experiences good or bad with others and not be villified and put down?

Should we all be able to give pointers to others and hope that as a result they might get enough from it in order to preserve their skin during future rides?

Are we all intelligent enough to know what is safe for us as an individual and what is not and ride accordingly?

Why do some find it necessary to pull others down and get the boot in when they get online to share something? Is it because they want to look better themselves by putting someone else down?

My understanding is that this site is an open forum open to all members to post and share what they think is pertinent at the time and to try and help others get more enjoyment out of what we all get a lot of fun from.

Maybe I should have been born in another generation but I am passionate about motorcycling and enjoy it immensely. I like to share my experiences in word or video but I don't expect to get treated like shit from some individuals who think it's their moral duty to put others down and make out like they are the Guru of all things good and proper.

I think most of us are mature enough to pick the meat from the bones from what gets posted on this site.... but at times I wonder. There is a lot of pooled wisdom amongst the members and a lot of knowledge and if this is harnessed and shared, then a lot of people can learn from experience and not make the same mistakes that a lot of us have in the past.

I do not profess to be an expert, but I've passed half a century, been riding on and off since 17 years old and done countless hundreds of thousands of K's on bikes. I admit to riding reasonably hard but that's the level I ride at because I function best at that level and enjoy it the most.

I do get pissed off when I post and all the negative tut tut shit starts coming out. I am sure there are people that want to learn a lot of stuff but I know many people that will no longer post because of all the crap that goes down and the mindless shit they have to read through to glean the facts. Many of these people have years of experience and much to pass on.....

Rant over.

That wasn't a question

[marty]

Mate, come on Beyond,
you've been on here long enough to know there are shit givers going to give there perspective on how bad a person you are....blah fucking blah.......
SPEED KILLS KIDS blah fuckin Blah..etc

and there are people like ME who like your take on riding,
cool vids,and some serious takes on the aspects of riding.

Don't let the fucking naysayers get ya down............

I agree. Maybe your postings would be better contained within a blog? You can control the wanky responses to those

[yungatart]

Don't take it to heart..it is only the internet, after all, not real life.
Keep posting your stuff, Beyond, I for one, enjoy it and find it thought provoking.

There are some real tosspots on here though...

[McJim]

It's a pretty open and public forum which means that people can be free to post their opinions about your opinions. I have noticed a tendancy for people to degenerate to personal abuse in many instances. The abusers are the fools.

Best option is to hit the ignore button on the fucktards. All but the most stupid will see the fools for what they are and will treat them appropriately.

[Katman]

I have noticed a tendancy for people to degenerate to personal abuse in many instances. The abusers are the fools.



Just wondering, can I assume that the same applies for the abuse that I've copped in the threads that I have started?

:whistle:

[caseye]

Should work both ways, shouldn't it?

[FJRider]

Just wondering, can I assume that the same applies for the abuse that I've copped in the threads that I have started?

:whistle:

Considering the length of time "some" members have been a member on this site, and know only too well the response of some "other" members will give ... And continue to post threads on their chosen subject.... Who is the fool ???

[Bonez]

Considering the length of time "some" members have been a member on this site, and know only too well the response of some "other" members will give ... And continue to post threads on their chosen subject.... Who is the fool ???

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Bling heading your way..................

[Katman]

Considering the length of time "some" members have been a member on this site, and know only too well the response of some "other" members will give ... And continue to post threads on their chosen subject.... Who is the fool ???

Don't know. Are you referring to me or Paul?

[FJRider]

Don't know. Are you referring to me or Paul?



I refer to any member that has been on site for some years ... this may include both of you. Names of a specific member changes little...

That would be the first time I have seen you state "Dont know" ...funny that...

[Ixion]

I wish my lawn was EMO. Then it would cut itself !

No it wouldn't. They always cut across the street so it would cut your neighbour's lawn.

[MarkH]

Beyond..showing your age mate...it's CD's now dude....

CDs? Now who is showing their age? It is data downloaded from iTunes and transferred to the iPod! Who uses CDs anymore?

[MarkH]

The Mods should infract your ass for being abusive to yourself .....

What's wrong with self abuse? Without that I wouldn't have a sex life!

[kiwifruit]

What's wrong with self abuse? Without that I wouldn't have a sex life!

The captain has turned on the *Too Much Information* light.

[mnkyboy]

Mate, come on Beyond,
you've been on here long enough to know there are shit givers going to give there perspective on how bad a person you are....blah fucking blah.......
SPEED KILLS KIDS blah fuckin Blah..etc

and there are people like ME who like your take on riding,
cool vids,and some serious takes on the aspects of riding.

Don't let the fucking naysayers get ya down............

+1 on that

Why give a shit about someone who posts on the internet - block the negative cunts and then you dont have to look at it.

[Bonez]

What's wrong with self abuse? Without that I wouldn't have a sex life!So it a Burgerman with special sauce then.

[Coldrider]

Yup. Overall though, everyone has feelings and families. We're all the same in that respect.

Everyone believes something different, and some topics really bring out those differences.. Like this topic for example - Insurance is a waste of time - you don't need it. Cunts like me who aren't insured will just rip you off. See thats a good example of a couple of sentences that will cause a massive fallout. :girlfight:

Lets remember also, we are perfectly sane human beings in real life. Uh well, most of us anyway.

KB has really taught me to not take shit to heart. So light a fire under some thread and sit back and enjoy the beautiful flames! MMMMmmmm. :hug:

Steve
Stop pissing on my posts like a dog to a lampost.
Others may enjoy a dryhumping on their legs but I'm picky.

[TomJ]

Don't take it to heart..it is only the internet, after all, not real life.
Keep posting your stuff, Beyond, I for one, enjoy it and find it thought provoking.

There are some real tosspots on here though...

All good so far but the repeat offenders could wind their necks in once in a while and give everyone else a break

I stopped using KB for about a year as got so fed up with the rubbish

[Mekk]

It amazes me that there are still people who expect royal treatment from an anonymous user base, as if their own idea of respect and politeness applies to seething pits of unrestricted opinion, boredom and misinformation.

The internet has been around long enough for people to know to take what they want from it and leave the rest.

[Mikkel]

Are we all intelligent enough to know what is safe for us as an individual and what is not and ride accordingly?

Probably... if we take an optimistic average, that is.

However, it's no fun taking a risk if you are not fully aware of what it entails. Life is, to a considerable extent, just applied risk management. Safety, on the other hand, is just an illusion created by those who have stopped evolving out of fear of the unknown.