The perfect helmet

[Tony W]

I think I have figured out the criteria for the perfect helmet.
They are to my mind, fairly basic...but the question is, " Is someone making it already? "

I have a number of helmets at present, all bought for different requirements.

I recently bought one simply for the reason that it had an internal flip-down tinted visor. There was a bonus feature, the helmet was also a "flip-front".

The internal tinted visor is excellent because it eliminates the need to change from a clear to tinted visor, or to put on sunglasses, should the rider's eyes need these requirements as light conditions change.
Just a press of a button and there is an instant change. This is also particularly useful when riding into shady spots from bright sunlight, which I'm sure all of us have encountered at some stage.
Also, when using a tinted visor, there is no need to stop and change to a clear one for night riding.

This helmet lacks only one important feature...a peak.
If it had one, I would only need the one helmet for all my on and off-road riding.

So to summarise: The PERFECT helmet for me would be a fullface "adventure" helmet with a peak AND an internal flip-down tinted visor. ( I don't think a flip-front is neccessary )

.....have they made one yet.....?

[.chris]

I think I have figured out the criteria for the perfect helmet.
They are to my mind, fairly basic...but the question is, " Is someone making it already? "

I have a number of helmets at present, all bought for different requirements.

I recently bought one simply for the reason that it had an internal flip-down tinted visor. There was a bonus feature, the helmet was also a "flip-front".

The internal tinted visor is excellent because it eliminates the need to change from a clear to tinted visor, or to put on sunglasses, should the rider's eyes need these requirements as light conditions change.
Just a press of a button and there is an instant change. This is also particularly useful when riding into shady spots from bright sunlight, which I'm sure all of us have encountered at some stage.
Also, when using a tinted visor, there is no need to stop and change to a clear one for night riding.

This helmet lacks only one important feature...a peak.
If it had one, I would only need the one helmet for all my on and off-road riding.

So to summarise: The PERFECT helmet for me would be a fullface "adventure" helmet with a peak AND an internal flip-down tinted visor. ( I don't think a flip-front is neccessary )

.....have they made one yet.....?


Do not forget a removable peak. peaks are a bit annoying at high speeds.

But you are right, that would make a good adventure helmet.

[ducatijim]

Well done Tony, I also have just bought 1: a Shark Evoline.

Bloody fantastic helmet, wear it open face/full face to suit the prevailing conditions, visor up/down, sun shades up/down, any combination!

Don't stress about a peak, we don't need a peak; they are only for MXers( or posers?) who don't get up to and beyond 100kph for extended periods, and we don't have roost to contend with( if you do, you need to seriously look closely at your 'friends').

Once one is adult enough to say 'I don't need to be a sheeple' and is prepared to dress from outside the acepted 'norm' for the style, it opens a whole new range of comfortable and practical gear that suits our needs.

Glad you made it :Punk:

[Oscar]

I have a Shoei Dual Sport helmet which is pretty good, but the internal visor woud be cool.

My problem with the Shoei is that the peak has been made to be aerodynamic so it's not long enough - when you get on the gravel in a forest in the late afternoon, a peak is a must. Helps in muddy stuff, too.

I realise that an internal dark visor might help with that problem. But I find that when the going gets really crappy, sometimes a visor is a problem, what with fogging and heat
and such - so a peak is still required (being as how some "sheeple" or "posers" actually take their Adv bikes off the road on occasion).

A peak that slides back on the helmet would work, I think - who's got a cad/cam programme..?

[NordieBoy]

The peak on the Zeus is quite nice at 100kph.
It's also removeable and turns it into a proper road helmet.

[XF650]

I'm keen to try an internal tinted visor helmet but I'v read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true??) that internal sun visor's can be a pain to keep clean in dusty conditions. Have you found this Tony?

[Oscar]

The peak on the Zeus is quite nice at 100kph.
It's also removeable and turns it into a proper road helmet.

I have a Arai XD as well as the Shoei and at (extra-legal) speed the XD peak can make life pretty difficult. However it is also removable (as is the Shoei peak).

[Oscar]

I'm keen to try an internal tinted visor helmet but I'v read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true??) that internal sun visor's can be a pain to keep clean in dusty conditions. Have you found this Tony?

It depends on the colour of the tint.
Back in the day, riding enduros, the hot set up was rose/pick (& yellow?? if memory serves) tinted goggle lenses for dust. The problem I always had was that most tints make it impossible to tell if that clay yer riding on is still wet...ouch.

[YellowDog]

Well done Tony, I also have just bought 1: a Shark Evoline.

Bloody fantastic helmet, wear it open face/full face to suit the prevailing conditions, visor up/down, sun shades up/down, any combination!

Don't stress about a peak, we don't need a peak; they are only for MXers( or posers?) who don't get up to and beyond 100kph for extended periods, and we don't have roost to contend with( if you do, you need to seriously look closely at your 'friends').

Once one is adult enough to say 'I don't need to be a sheeple' and is prepared to dress from outside the acepted 'norm' for the style, it opens a whole new range of comfortable and practical gear that suits our needs.

Glad you made it :Punk:
The Shark Evoline will be my next helmet.

I presently have a Nolan N-102 with an external sliding sun shade. I find it very good. I couldn't live without a Flip-Front having got so used to it.

[dino3310]

Do not forget a removable peak. peaks are a bit annoying at high speeds.

But you are right, that would make a good adventure helmet.

ive sat on 150 with no hassle from my Grex, the only flaw is the chin/mouth guard is about 5mm from me gob and it tickles my hairy face:laugh:

[Padmei]

I have a LMS (?) flip front with internal sun visor & absolutely love it. Mostly because it fits perfectly & easy on the wallet. But you're right- climbing some hills in Winter is a bit of blindmans bluff - a removable visor would be good.

Dust is a bit of a pain in the arse esp if you have the visor up & sun shade down the dust settles everywhere so a bit of cleaning is required during long stops.

[James Deuce]

I'm saving up for one of these.

No Peak though.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/givi/x-01/

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[That looks like fun]

I have a Nolan witht the VPS system. It has an external tinted visor. I found with riding in the dust that as the clear visor and tinted visor sit together I end up with a nice half moon shape scratched into the clear visor. Also in light misty rain I would lift the tinted part, rain would stop, put the visor back down and.... Bugger rain between two sheets of plastic :blink:
Also a bloody hot helmet to wear adventure riding.
So I raided the piggy bank and brought a sheeple helmet from Shoei, its gotta a cute little peak and lets in lots of fresh stuff for me lungs. I can wear sunglasses under the helmet (take them off before you ride into the Uriti tunnel you fool :shutup: ) And if I go round a corner without me sunnys on and there in the sky straight ahead of me is the big yella fella..............
I squint into the sun :2guns:

[.chris]

ive sat on 150 with no hassle from my Grex, the only flaw is the chin/mouth guard is about 5mm from me gob and it tickles my hairy face:laugh:

The peaks seem fine untill you have to turn your head to check your blind spot (well on my bmw enduro helmet, anyway), then it feels like the wind is trying to twist your head off your body. But I guess that all depends on speed and how much wind protection your bike provides.

I definately perfer not having the peak for any road based rides (read: going 100km for anything more than 20mins).

The thing I really love about my ds helmet is the visibility, I have much better peripheral vision with my ds helmet compared to my road helmet, when in traffic it is much nicer to be able to see a bit more out to the sides, makes it much quicker/easier to check blinds spots when you blind spot is pretty small.

[ducatijim]

The Shark Evoline will be my next helmet.

I presently have a Nolan N-102 with an external sliding sun shade. I find it very good. I couldn't live without a Flip-Front having got so used to it.

I had a 102 before this 1. It was heavy and the external sun visor was a bitch to keep clean. Shark is well ahead.

Oh, but no peak, looks like I made a mistake...sniff....sniff........
......I guess I won't be able to be a real adventure rider after all( cause Oscar sez so....so it must be true) ....sniff..............................

[NordieBoy]

The peaks seem fine untill you have to turn your head to check your blind spot (well on my bmw enduro helmet, anyway), then it feels like the wind is trying to twist your head off your body. But I guess that all depends on speed and how much wind protection your bike provides.

The Zeus is pretty good in this regard.

[Bounce001]

I have a similar helmet. An Aris - about $150 from Lifestyle Imports in Pukekawa. Excellent helmet and good price. A few mates have since bought them and like them as well.

[Tony W]

Well done Tony, I also have just bought 1: a Shark Evoline.

Bloody fantastic helmet, wear it open face/full face to suit the prevailing conditions, visor up/down, sun shades up/down, any combination!

Don't stress about a peak, we don't need a peak; they are only for MXers( or posers?) who don't get up to and beyond 100kph for extended periods, and we don't have roost to contend with( if you do, you need to seriously look closely at your 'friends').

Once one is adult enough to say 'I don't need to be a sheeple' and is prepared to dress from outside the acepted 'norm' for the style, it opens a whole new range of comfortable and practical gear that suits our needs.

Glad you made it :Punk:


A peak is the #1 prerequisite for my eyesight requirements.

[Tony W]

I'm keen to try an internal tinted visor helmet but I'v read somewhere on the interweb (so it must be true??) that internal sun visor's can be a pain to keep clean in dusty conditions. Have you found this Tony?


Internal visors are F#$%@^&N ORSIM !!:Punk:

[Tony W]

The Zeus is pretty good in this regard.


...if my Zeus had an inernal visor, it WOULD be perfect !

[Oscar]

I had a 102 before this 1. It was heavy and the external sun visor was a bitch to keep clean. Shark is well ahead.

Oh, but no peak, looks like I made a mistake...sniff....sniff........
......I guess I won't be able to be a real adventure rider after all( cause Oscar sez so....so it must be true) ....sniff..............................

It's not up to me if yer an Adventure rider or not.
Adventure is what you make it.
Besides, what would I know?
I'm a "sheeple" poser with a peak.


You might like to elucidate on this sheep/people hybrid concept of yours, though.
Did your girlfriend suggest it?

[drbandit]

Interesting... Not an Adventure rider??? Tui Add

[MXNUT]

You might like to elucidate on this sheep/people hybrid concept of yours, though.
Did your girlfriend suggest it?

:lol::lol: :girlfight::girlfight: :spanking:

[Waihou Thumper]

We have had enough banter and playground bullying for the time being...from the Group Ride thread....:grouphug:
Now, that's better.....Aye...:done:

[That looks like fun]

shhhhh dont mention the group ride thing :shit:, its gone awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :laugh:

[timg]

This helmet lacks only one important feature...a peak.
If it had one, I would only need the one helmet for all my on and off-road riding. I use a Nolan 103 with one of these http://www.super-visor.com/ It might look a bit naf, but it works very well, and you can remove it if you want just leaving the mounts on the visor. Cheers.

[Waihou Thumper]

shhhhh dont mention the group ride thing :shit:, its gone awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :laugh:

I say....:done:and dusted!!

[Tony W]

I use a Nolan 103 with one of these http://www.super-visor.com/ It might look a bit naf, but it works very well, and you can remove it if you want just leaving the mounts on the visor. Cheers.


Yeah saw it a year ago...might have to revisit if no manufacturers come up with a helmet soon!

[icr84u2love]

...if my Zeus had an inernal visor, it WOULD be perfect !

I,ve just bought a HJC FS-10 Infinity Little bit pricey but very nice helmet and at only 1500g not to heavy and your right about the internal :sunny: visor there just soooooooooo goood I'd never buy another helmet without one.
And the HJC has got really good ventilation too.
I'm sure someone's going to make a helmet with a flip visor for high and low speed, sun and no sun. One of my trials helmets has got a really nice solid visor that would go a treat on my HJC might have to give it a go.

[crazyhorse]

.....................would be one that would fit your head - and saves your arse at the same time :rofl:

[Kokopelli]

I have a Shoei Hornet and like it. I was lucky enough to buy it when the NZ$ was way up. The peak is a little short, but you can bend your neck a bit more and it will still do the job. The ventilation is excellent and mine came with a pinlock, which is also nice.

I don't care much for the internal visors, because I wear close fitting, tinted safety glasses underneath. Wearing these, I can happily cruise at 80-100 km with the visor open. I now have a second, amber coloured, pair for those overcast days. It works very well for me.

Also, I wanted a white helmet and there aren't that many around. I figure a white one will be easier to spot when I am parked half way down a bank.

The Hornet is still quite a bit cheaper than the Arai or BMW versions and I found it very comfortable.

[Phreaky Phil]

I have a Shoei Hornet and like it. I was lucky enough to buy it when the NZ$ was way up. The peak is a little short, but you can bend your neck a bit more and it will still do the job. The ventilation is excellent and mine came with a pinlock, which is also nice.

I don't care much for the internal visors, because I wear close fitting, tinted safety glasses underneath. Wearing these, I can happily cruise at 80-100 km with the visor open. I now have a second, amber coloured, pair for those overcast days. It works very well for me.

Also, I wanted a white helmet and there aren't that many around. I figure a white one will be easier to spot when I am parked half way down a bank.

The Hornet is still quite a bit cheaper than the Arai or BMW versions and I found it very comfortable.I am in the market for a new helmet and these are on my short list. How is the noise level of the helmet. Have you ridden the bike with another helmet for comparison. The Basic should be a fairly quiet bike as it has no screen to cause buffeting.
Cheers Phil

[Kokopelli]

I am in the market for a new helmet and these are on my short list. How is the noise level of the helmet. Have you ridden the bike with another helmet for comparison. The Basic should be a fairly quiet bike as it has no screen to cause buffeting.
Cheers Phil

I use it on the 1150 as well. The System 5 I have is not nearly as comfortable as the Shoei. The noise level of the Shoei acceptable, but I use earplugs on longer rides. I also use this helmet daily for commuting.

[Phreaky Phil]

I use it on the 1150 as well. The System 5 I have is not nearly as comfortable as the Shoei. The noise level of the Shoei acceptable, but I use earplugs on longer rides. I also use this helmet daily for commuting.Thanks. I wear earplugs all the time as well, although it would be nice to not have to. My Helmet short list is Shoei Hornet and Schuberth C3. I have always had a helmet with a peak and its almost a neccesity when riding into the sun, especially with a dusty visor. The flip front might be nice and the Schuberths are meant to be the quietist of the bunch.

[Kokopelli]

Thanks. I wear earplugs all the time as well, although it would be nice to not have to. My Helmet short list is Shoei Hornet and Schuberth C3. I have always had a helmet with a peak and its almost a neccesity when riding into the sun, especially with a dusty visor. The flip front might be nice and the Schuberths are meant to be the quietist of the bunch.

The C3 is nice and its got the built in visor, but it's also very expensive. Might be cheaper to import one.