Is global peace possible?

[carver]

meaning no war between countries and races.
i would like to think we could do a lot better....

[enigma51]

meaning no war between countries and races.
i would like to think we could do a lot better....

whats the fun in that



PS Sounds like you have a green evening. :blink:

[Fatt Max]

Been on the hooch bro....?

nice thought...

[carver]

Nah, just been thinking while i write about this GSX...
thinking about all the dreamers wanting peace and care for the enviroment...
but is it possible?
i said yes, but there can never be total peace

[Hans]

It is possible. When there's only one human left alive...

[bogan]

wait till we start fightin aliens, the world will unite against the common foe, so technically global peace i spose.

[Pussy]

It is possible. When there's only one human left alive...

You want to fight about it??


:D

[AllanB]

Not a chance.

1. Religion - they will never agree. Never - I read a interesting Si-Fi book set way in the future where the different religions actually colonised their own planets to avoid confrontations.

[Headbanger]

When we have killed or enslaved all our enemies, then we will have peace.

For about a week.....

[bogan]

Not a chance.

1. Religion - they will never agree. Never - I read a interesting Si-Fi book set way in the future where the different religions actually colonised their own planets to avoid confrontations.

doesnt that count as global peace though?

[YellowDog]

Some have votes 'YES' :rofl:

[short-circuit]

meaning no war between countries and races.
i would like to think we could do a lot better....

Are you thinking of entering Miss World?

That'd get you some exposure

[Indiana_Jones]

Not a chance now since Michael Jackson died....

-Indy

[wbks]

Not so long as there's a shit load of money to be made off of conflict!

[Blackshear]

Americans.

Lol.

[Sidewinder]

what would we watch on the news and make war movies about them

[Sidewinder]

Are you thinking of entering Miss World?

That'd get you some exposure

and with ppl like you there never will be peace

[firefighter]

In todays times, if you got rid of all muslims, poverty (or Africa) and North Korea then maybe.

[Sidewinder]

In todays times, if you got rid of all muslims, poverty (or Africa) and North Korea then maybe.

and the usa

[PrincessBandit]

Are you thinking of entering Miss World?

That'd get you some exposure

Hahaha, I was going to say "of course global world peace is possible" why? because all the Miss Universes are working towards it.

[wbks]

In todays times, if you got rid of all muslims, poverty (or Africa) and North Korea then maybe.


and the usaAnd the UK, and Saudi Arabia, and Israel, and...

[oldrider]

Possible, "Yes"! Probable, "No"! Too many vested interests it not ever happening! :doh:

[Grahameeboy]

meaning no war between countries and races.
i would like to think we could do a lot better....

It has been that way since time began...we do it, animals do it...

[Hitcher]

Global peace may have been possible until this Flame Warrior nonsense trashed my avatar.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[Sidewinder]

Global peace may have been possible until this Flame Warrior nonsense trashed my avatar.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

yea ive had it four times this week!

[Hitcher]

yea ive had it four times this week!

Please don't make me sympathise with you.

[Sidewinder]

Please don't make me sympathise with you.

why are you scared that you are

[Pedrostt500]

give war a chance!.

[AD345]

Can't believe this hasn't been done yet

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[kunoichi]

human beings will always find something to bicker about! It's nice to believe that we are above that, but we'r not. Wipe out one enemy, and u will create urself a new enemy.

[mynameis]

Global peace? We should try for KB peace first honey :lol:

[Dean]

Global peace is possible if a outbreak/pandemic occurs around the world, third world countries would look to the central powers for medication and money, resources. A world alliance, all sorts of charities and funds made to stop outbreak, appeals and propaganda for the citizens to unite and fight the virus. Military would be on call for dispatching food and resources, rescue. Wars and weapons would be halted in production, more money spent on health care etc. This would work provided the initial riots and civil unrests blew over and the citizens realised they cant get through it alone.

[Sidewinder]

Global peace? We should try for KB peace first honey :lol:

yea like that will ever happen

[cc rider]

doesnt that count as global peace though?...NO. Universal




It has been that way since time began...we do it, animals do it.......educated fleas do it....

[Maki]

Global peace is easy as long as there is enough of everything for everyone. We don't fight for race, religion or ideology. We fight for food, water and space. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just making excuses.

[cc rider]

Global peace is easy as long as there is enough of everything for everyone. We don't fight for race, religion or ideology. We fight for food, water and space. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just making excuses.....that's more food, water and space then the other bastard....cause humans are greedy little wood grubs :Punk:

[Maki]

....that's more food, water and space then the other bastard....cause humans are greedy little wood grubs :Punk:

You live in a land of plenty. You don't realize that there are hundreds of millions of people out there who do not have enough clean water to drink or food to eat.

http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm

"Children are the most visible victims of undernutrition. Children who are poorly nourished suffer up to 160 days of illness each year. Poor nutrition plays a role in at least half of the 10.9 million child deaths each year--five million deaths. Undernutrition magnifies the effect of every disease, including measles and malaria. The estimated proportions of deaths in which undernutrition is an underlying cause are roughly similar for diarrhea (61%), malaria (57%), pneumonia (52%), and measles (45%) (Black 2003, Bryce 2005). Malnutrition can also be caused by diseases, such as the diseases that cause diarrhea, by reducing the body's ability to convert food into usable nutrients.

According to the most recent estimate that Hunger Notes could find, malnutrition, as measured by stunting, affects 32.5 percent of children in developing countries--one of three (de Onis 2000). Geographically, more than 70 percent of malnourished children live in Asia, 26 percent in Africa and 4 percent in Latin America and the Caribbean. In many cases, their plight began even before birth with a malnourished mother. Under-nutrition among pregnant women in developing countries leads to 1 out of 6 infants born with low birth weight. This is not only a risk factor for neonatal deaths, but also causes learning disabilities, mental, retardation, poor health, blindness and premature death."




How can there be peace in a world where so many people have to watch their children suffer from starvation. How can you call someone who will fight to feed himself and his dependants a "greedy little wood grub"?

[Dave Lobster]

We don't fight for race, religion or ideology. We fight for food, water and space. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just making excuses.

WE may not. But the muslims do.

[short-circuit]

Global peace is possible if a outbreak/pandemic occurs around the world, third world countries would look to the central powers for medication and money, resources. A world alliance, all sorts of charities and funds made to stop outbreak, appeals and propaganda for the citizens to unite and fight the virus. Military would be on call for dispatching food and resources, rescue. Wars and weapons would be halted in production, more money spent on health care etc. This would work provided the initial riots and civil unrests blew over and the citizens realised they cant get through it alone.


How's the weather on your planet?

[wbks]

WE may not. But the muslims do.lol


Global peace is possible if a outbreak/pandemic occurs around the world, third world countries would look to the central powers for medication and money, resources. A world alliance, all sorts of charities and funds made to stop outbreak, appeals and propaganda for the citizens to unite and fight the virus. Military would be on call for dispatching food and resources, rescue. Wars and weapons would be halted in production, more money spent on health care etc. This would work provided the initial riots and civil unrests blew over and the citizens realised they cant get through it alone.
Sounds like the plot for a crappy 1980's movie out of hollywood.

[mattian]

not if you read some of the posts on here its not

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=107866&highlight=London

intolorence and racism is rampant, even in our peaceful little islands of New Zealand.

[Subike]

As long as there are good looking women in the world, and men who want them fighting will always continue.
Basic instinct, reproduction .
Above greed for money or power, there is the sex drive,
Behind so many conflicts are women.
I dont mean this as a put down for women, they are beautifull in all ways,
its just that our brainless head leads us to try and seek the affections of that which is not ours, thus we invoke the wrath of the sexes.
Wars have been started over women, and by women since time began.

"Do not lust after your neigbours possesions, be it his wife, his daughter, his job, his vehicle, his house , his power"and you will have harmony.

Be honest guys, how many of you see a good looking women, and want to nail her. Then if you do , get caught, the war begins.

Peace between all people's? Not as long as we continue to be sexually driven beings..
This is just my opinion and WILL be different from many of you.
But I have a right to express it.
oh Yeha, let the flaming begin

[p.dath]

I think the only way global peace will be achieved is if the human race ceases to exist.

People will always have diabolically opposed views, and there will always be radicals prepared to "defend" or "enforce" their view.

[mattian]

I think the only way global peace will be achieved is if the human race ceases to exist.

People will always have diabolically opposed views, and there will always be radicals prepared to "defend" or "enforce" their view.

in alot of societies we learn to tolerate other peoples diabollically opposed views and live side by side with each other in "relative" harmony. We have some very robust debates and differences of opinions but, we live together peacefully nonetheless.

It just seems to me that in some parts of the world (often those countries with the longest history) even the smallest difference of opinion is dealt with harsh violence..... like in the middle east.

[James Deuce]

Global peace is easy as long as there is enough of everything for everyone. We don't fight for race, religion or ideology. We fight for food, water and space. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just making excuses.

Global peace is easy so long as competing religious and economic systems have no contact. So they don't compete.

Just so you know, most religious systems are economic systems primarily. Just wrapped up in a vengeful-but-loving invisible man/woman or men/women theology paradigm.

Just so you know, 9 billion people could live in the southern states of the US and each person would have on average enough space to not be able to easily see in their neighbours window, so we aren't competing for resources.
Our economic systems are competing for the rights to resources.

The reason Catholic priests are celibate is purely economic. Patrilineal inheritance was stripping the Catholic church of troops and money. The Second Lateran Council made some noise about being married making priests do bad stuff, but the reality was, if your eldest son didn't become a priest, the church lost a military asset, property and money when a priest died.

[kunoichi]

The over all opinion seems to be that as long as there are basic drives and differences between people, global peace is not possible. But imagine a world where we were all the same, and there was no competition for anything!! We wouldnt' be where we are today! I mean the competitiveness between work collegues drives them to invent, to grow in the market etc. THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY MOTORBIKE RACING!!! :shit:

[cc rider]

Global peace is easy as long as there is enough of everything for everyone. We don't fight for race, religion or ideology. We fight for food, water and space. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just making excuses.


You live in a land of plenty. You don't realize that there are hundreds of millions of people out there who do not have enough clean water to drink or food to eat.


How can you call someone who will fight to feed himself and his dependants a "greedy little wood grub"?Maki, read your original post. You said We, so my reference to glwg was aimed at us. The 'better off' people.

and not sure how you know what I do or don't understand

[madbikeboy]

There will never be world peace.

[kunoichi]

There will never be world peace.

LOL! plain, simple and to the point!! :laugh:

[R6_kid]

Not entirely possible. I think that all the worlds Nations could perhaps not be fighting at one particular point, but that is not peace. Anyone who has studied human nature knows that as humans we are in a constant state of 'war', and anyone who as studied world history knows that there are a number of states/countries that have been fighting almost non-stop for the last 1000+ years.

Even if all the Nation states and countries were at peace we still have terrorism to deal with.

IMO New Zealands defence policy is far to relaxed. It shouldn't be a walk in the park to come to our country with military force and take the place over. We should be a porcupine, not a puppy dog (think Singapore). It would seem that in the modern world the only way to secure 'peace' is to make it too much of a hassle for someone else to come and take what is yours, but then people are never satisfied to only work with what they already have so there will always be tension and competition for resources. Going forward over the next 50 years things are going to change dramatically in the world and resources that we have previously taken for granted in NZ are going to become sought after - simply being at the bottom of the World surrounded by ocean is not a watertight insurance policy. (pun intended)

[imdying]

Whilst the unclean still enhabit the earth? Pfffft... not likely.

[Morcs]

As long as there is religion - even just one, there would be no peace.

[bogan]

As long as there is religion - even just one, there would be no peace.

what if everyone was a devout buddhist though? it'd be fairly peaceful then i reckon.

Or if everyon was in that anti-sex religon/cult, bet itd get peacfull after a generation or two!

[davebullet]

The one human is definitely one solution.

The only other I can think of is genetic engineering to remove the "greed" gene and you will have your global peace....

A power struggle erupts, because someone has been greedy and has taken away perceived control, resources (land etc...) which leads to conflict (or supressed conflict).

I had a long argument with a colleague of mine who thought education was the solution... I argued that through education, you simply teach someone how to better realise their greed.

[slofox]

Not 'til after I'm dead...'cause I'm a grumpy old bastard...:Pokey:

[SARGE]

when we have killed or enslaved all our enemies, then we will have peace.

For about a week.....

...then the zombies come

[ManDownUnder]

...then the zombies come

This whole thing reminds me of a US radio skit I heard a while back - "What if God Smoked Cannibas"... there's a line in there talking about how God made everyone different colours for a laugh ... so they'd fight all the time...

I have a copy here somewhere.

[SARGE]

Global peace is possible if a outbreak/pandemic occurs around the world, third world countries would look to the central powers for medication and money, resources. A world alliance, all sorts of charities and funds made to stop outbreak, appeals and propaganda for the citizens to unite and fight the virus. Military would be on call for dispatching food and resources, rescue. Wars and weapons would be halted in production, more money spent on health care etc. This would work provided the initial riots and civil unrests blew over and the citizens realised they cant get through it alone.

where are the unicorns and butterflies in that story?

[wbks]

...then the zombies comeYou're about the third marine I've heard of mention "when the zombies come", or similar... They play with your head in basic training, huh?:mellow:

[SARGE]

There will never be world peace.

not as long as im around ...

[SARGE]

This whole thing reminds me of a US radio skit I heard a while back - "What if God Smoked Cannibas"... there's a line in there talking about how God made everyone different colours for a laugh ... so they'd fight all the time...

I have a copy here somewhere.

yea .. its on that disc i gave you a few years ago :doh:

[Sidewinder]

with a nike we could make the glob into pieces

[SARGE]

You're about the third marine I've heard of mention "when the zombies come", or similar... They play with your head in basic training, huh?:mellow:

hey look... im not trying to stir shit up here or anything .. but look around .. night of the living dead .. 26 weeks, that joint with will smith ...Thriller (you dont SERIOUSLY think MJ was one of US do you ?)

its just like all the alien movies ... they are just trying to soften us up for when they come ...


http://yourzombieplan.com/


seriously ..


and no .. boot camp was a 16 week resort holiday ....

[MIXONE]

I'm fighting with my neighbours so no chance around here.

[ready4whatever]

Nope, there have always and will always be that little part of society that will rebel

[wbks]

with a nike we could make the glob into piecesHell yes, you could fuck some shit up with this selection.


http://webmarketrblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/nike_trainers.jpg

[Dean]

How's the weather on your planet?

You know if people realise you are a genuine bloke who loves his triumph not the dick you appear to be over the internet there would be peace amongst many members.

[wbks]

You know if people realise you are a genuine bloke who loves his triumph not the dick you appear to be over the internet there would be peace amongst many members.But seriously, were you high when you typed up that last post?

[Street Gerbil]

Yes. Graveyards rarely breach peace.

[Hiflyer]

Someone's always going to want to be better than someone else. Which will fuck the guys whos already better right off and there goes the peace.... Much like this place

[Dave Lobster]

As long as there are good looking women in the world, and men who want them fighting will always continue.


I was under the impression that the more violent religion followers had to kill themselves if they saw a woman (who isn't their wife) semi naked?

Seems like we'd have fewer conflicts if we just paraded a lot of naked women around muslims.



It just seems to me that in some parts of the world even the smallest difference of opinion is dealt with harsh violence..... like in the middle east.

And.. we're back to the muslims again..

[Sidewinder]

You know if people realise you are a genuine bloke who loves his triumph not the dick you appear to be over the internet there would be peace amongst many members.

yea i reckon, he doesnt even want to come to manfield and say hi at the races either

[Dean]

But seriously, were you high when you typed up that last post?

Which post?

"Why would you make such an assumption, how low do you think of me? Has our relationship meant nothing to you? Are you saying im fat? All those months we spent together fooling around in you're dads mini van, when you sung me Iron Maiden half drunk at my Mums anniversary. Its always the partners fault, isnt it, this is why there can be no peace amongst us we always fight. Im breaking up with you" :(

[Sidewinder]

Which post?

"Why would you make such an assumption, how low do you think of me? Has our relationship meant nothing to you? Are you saying im fat? All those months we spent together fooling around in you're dads mini van, when you sung me Iron Maiden half drunk at my Mums anniversary. Its always the partners fault, isnt it, this is why there can be no peace amongst us we always fight. Im breaking up with you" :(

im single for ya bro, my bed is cold:love::love::love::wari::wari::wari::wari:

[1wheel riot]

beter maby but peace nr never

[Mekk]

As long as there are finite resources there will be war.

[Elysium]

No. There is only war.

[NDORFN]

Is this part of your attempt to become a mentor?

[carver]

Is this part of your attempt to become a mentor?

nope!........

[NDORFN]

Feels like a beauty pageant in here.

[gunnyrob]

A sad fact, but the golden rule of history is "those with the weapons, make the rules".

That's why there will always be gunnies!

[mattian]

I was under the impression that the more violent religion followers had to kill themselves if they saw a woman (who isn't their wife) semi naked?

Seems like we'd have fewer conflicts if we just paraded a lot of naked women around muslims.



And.. we're back to the muslims again..

and Jews, and Christians.

[doc]

meaning no war between countries and races.
i would like to think we could do a lot better....

Man you must have some influence. The PM has just comitted another 70 odd troops into fulfilling your request.

Carver yor a legend. :Punk:

[SARGE]

Yes. Graveyards rarely breach peace.

Zombies....




and Jews, and Christians.



and Zombies....

[cc rider]

Zombies....

and Zombies....send them in first....cannon fodder :2guns:

[ready4whatever]

speaking of peace i just watched pearl harbour, how peaceful..

[Forest]

My thoughts align with Clauswitz,



The fact that slaughter is a horrifying spectacle must make us take war more seriously, but not provide an excuse for gradually blunting our swords in the name of humanity. Sooner or later someone will come along with a sharp sword and hack off our arms.

- Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

[short-circuit]

My thoughts align with Clauswitz,

Precisely the sort of thinking that leads to Arms races (excuse the pun)

[Forest]

Precisely the sort of thinking that leads to Arms races (excuse the pun)

I know full well that the only thing that separates us from barbarism is the thin veneer of civilization.

[Jenral]

wait till we start fightin aliens, the world will unite against the common foe, so technically global peace i spose.

Na some people will join the aliens side.

[bogan]

Na some people will join the aliens side.

only if its possible to have sex with them, what if they were really spiky and fugly or something?

[Dave Lobster]

Na some people will join the aliens side.

Phil Goff?

[Street Gerbil]

Zombies....

and Zombies....
I believe the correct term is "target-rich environment"

[SARGE]

I believe the correct term is "target-rich environment"

Much like KB then, huh? :done: