New lap records at Manfeild.

[GSVR]

Well done Sam Love and Stroudy.

1:06.202 - #2 Andrew Stroud (F1)
1.09.914 - #82 Sam Love (F2)

Now can someone tell me what the Production Supersport and Superbike lap records are for Manfeild?

[gixerracer]

Well done Sam Love and Stroudy.

1:06.202 - #2 Andrew Stroud (F1)
1.09.914 - #82 Sam Love (F2)

Now can someone tell me what the Production Supersport and Superbike lap records are for Manfeild?

SBK 105.2:angry2:

SSP 600 108.2:beer:

[White trash]

SBK 105.2:angry2:

SSP 600 108.2:beer:
Dear Craig,

You used to be cool and I'm sure you still have the skills in those old joints of yours to run at the front. Please please please return to the Tried and True Suzuki camp and give Mr Stroud the hiding he deserves.

Your biggest fan.
Keiran.

Seriously though mate, looks like some good racing was had and you gave the old guy a good run for his money.

[FROSTY]

Seriously though mate, looks like some good racing was had and you gave the old guy a good run for his money.
OYYY--enough of the old stuff. If stroudys old that makes me friggin gerriatric

[White trash]

OYYY--enough of the old stuff. If stroudys old that makes me friggin gerriatric
Are there no mirrors at your place mate?

[Toast]

Awesome show put on by Stroud and Shirriffs in the Sunday LG race!! Inspirational stuff and great to watch!!

Anyone know why Andrew slowed exiting the last corner? Craig would have had it anyway, I think

[CHOPPA]

He knocked the pit lane speed limiter on...

[GSVR]

SBK 105.2:angry2:

SSP 600 108.2:beer:

Thanks. Good to keep track of these things.


Awesome show put on by Stroud and Shirriffs in the Sunday LG race!! Inspirational stuff and great to watch!!

Anyone know why Andrew slowed exiting the last corner? Craig would have had it anyway, I think

Is Andrew going to be running the #1 this year. I thought that was Bugdens number.:jerry:

[Robert Taylor]

Thanks. Good to keep track of these things.



Is Andrew going to be running the #1 this year. I thought that was Bugdens number.:jerry:

No thats just Andrew being mischievous. Sam went well, now if he had suspension working as well as Glen Skatchills he would have been faster again. Glen was visibly driving away from him off the turns and under brakes, only hindered by a slower motor. The setup on Sams bike is screwy to say the least.

[White trash]

No thats just Andrew being mischievous. Sam went well, now if he had suspension working as well as Glen Skatchills he would have been faster again. Glen was visibly driving away from him off the turns and under brakes, only hindered by a slower motor. The setup on Sams bike is screwy to say the least.
Who's looking after Sam suspension-wise this year Robert?

[Dom]

Who's looking after Sam suspension-wise this year Robert?

I believe that Dukic is helping him out by Roberts choice of words.

[White trash]

I believe that Dukic is helping him out by Roberts choice of words.
Probably trying to teach young Sam how to ride also.

Hope he's mentally tougher than I was and ignores the bullshit if it's the case.

[Jantar]

Well done also to Kirk Pritchard (K14) on his first meeting in F3. :first: , :first: and :first:

[CHOPPA]

Probably trying to teach young Sam how to ride also.

Hope he's mentally tougher than I was and ignores the bullshit if it's the case.

Sams the man

[sinfull]

Well done also to Kirk Pritchard (K14) on his first meeting in F3. :first: , :first: and :first:
Yes wont that bring out the Ozzy 450's in force next year !

[Bren_chch]

Yes wont that bring out the Ozzy 450's in force next year !

Its going to be awesome!!! Good stuff by the Kirkster and the engine guy. I bet all his kirkamaniacs were cheering him on, i know i was. :2thumbsup

He's been off a bike for a long time now, so i bet he happy at that result, 1st time on that bike and 1st time riding in a long time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hope he's mentally tougher than I was and ignores the bullshit if it's the case.

They're all bloody lucky I was busy this weekend. That...and my leathers have shrunk.

[roadracingoldfart]

They're all bloody lucky I was busy this weekend. That...and my leathers have shrunk.


Your leathers didnt shrink Pete , you got fat :girlfight::beer::whistle:

[motorcyclesonline.net]

The racing over the weekend was incredible at all levels with great races within races and it's free entry so spread the word for Rd6
Many riders are using the series as development for the Nationals - young riders like Glenn Mason - "whitebaitracing" on the nicely prepared Honda NSR 250 MC21 and Junior Payne on the Pro-twin SV650

[Kickaha]

I bet all his kirkamaniacs were cheering him on, i know i was. :2thumbsup

As was I, good to get regular txt updates with his progress

[Robert Taylor]

Who's looking after Sam suspension-wise this year Robert?

We ended up picking up the pieces because the rear shock had an overlong spring fitted to it because whoever did it ( clearly not fully conversant with Ohlins nor formally trained and accredited to do so ) failed to recognise that the R6 TTX36 shocks take a shorter series of spring, or failed to bring it to Sams attention. The bike had only 15mm of rider sag so it was an evil handling bike and frankly a crash waiting to happen. Thats despicable, if whoever did this is masquerading as a suspension guru he should at least either do so properly or not at all. Caveat emptor!! This person is not approved or formally trained to service and setup Ohlins products
That Sam went so well on an improperly set up bike is a credit to him and underlines his talent.

[GSVR]

We ended up picking up the pieces because the rear shock had an overlong spring fitted to it because whoever did it ( clearly not fully conversant with Ohlins nor formally trained and accredited to do so ) failed to recognise that the R6 TTX36 shocks take a shorter series of spring, or failed to bring it to Sams attention. The bike had only 15mm of rider sag so it was an evil handling bike and frankly a crash waiting to happen. Thats despicable, if whoever did this is masquerading as a suspension guru he should at least either do so properly or not at all. Caveat emptor!! This person is not approved or formally trained to service and setup Ohlins products
That Sam went so well on an improperly set up bike is a credit to him and underlines his talent.

I want to take no part in what your up to here Robert. What I do know is this was Jays old bike (heavier rider). We all know that by your own admition no one in NZ is as skilled at setting up Ohlins roadracing shocks. A very astute bussiness move would be to undermine any potentual opposition that dares to try and get a piece of the action.

Kerry does seem to have a knack of attracting very fast riders doesn't he! Gareth Jones won both Supersport races at Manfield last nationals on a Yamaha with Kerry setting his bike up.
An experienced rider like Bugden knows what they want and the suspension techs are just there to perform the work right? Bugden would have been faster if he had let Robert do the mods he wanted! I bet Rossi decides what spring and tyres he wants.

I get the feeling that unless Kerry fronts up on here we will only get one side of the story.

"Fueled by insecurity, I mistakenly think that if others are wrong, bad, or fault-ridden, then in comparison I must be right, good, and capable. Does the strategy of putting others down to build up my own self-esteem work? Hardly."

http://www.thubtenchodron.org/DailyLifeDharma/speaking_of_the_faults_of_others.html

[Rcktfsh]

An experienced rider like Bugden knows what they want and the suspension techs are just there to perform the work right? Bugden would have been faster if he had let Robert do the mods he wanted! I bet Rossi decides what spring and tyres he wants.

http://www.thubtenchodron.org/DailyLifeDharma/speaking_of_the_faults_of_others.html

Far from it actually GSVR, riders like Andrew work with CKT to get the best from the bike, certainly not a case of telling them what to do. Robert and Dennis did an awesome job with the K9 in the weekend trying different set ups in each race to get a feel for the new bike. Sadly it would only be if they stopped travelling the country to meetings that alot of riders would realise how lucky we are to have CKT's services at the track.

[Pussy]

I believe Andrew got a prize for having the shortest mechanic..... :whistle:

[GSVR]

Far from it actually GSVR, riders like Andrew work with CKT to get the best from the bike, certainly not a case of telling them what to do. Robert and Dennis did an awesome job with the K9 in the weekend trying different set ups in each race to get a feel for the new bike. Sadly it would only be if they stopped travelling the country to meetings that alot of riders would realise how lucky we are to have CKT's services at the track.

Its not good for the sport when anyone who provides a service stops turning up. Be it the Hotdog stand, Leather repair guy, person with a tyre changing machine, etc.

[White trash]

Hey everyone's obviously entilted to their own opinion, and from time to time personalities are going to clash.

I've had the honour of being associated with a number of set-up "artists" in my too short racing career.

Mr Robert Taylor of CKT closed his business (when in Hawera) to attend a test day with me and my K7, expressly to get as early a start on the ins and outs of suspension as mine was ready 3 weeks before Andrews and Craigs. Swings and round-abouts, the time was invaluable to both of us. He had an offsider who shall not be named working alongside him at the time. Having met this person years earlier, I was dubious, but good enough for Robert, good enough for me. Turns out the relationship didn't last due to someone's over inflated sense of importance and knowledge and they parted ways.

For the next twelve months, this "off sider" is still trying to give me set-up advice and telling me how I should be riding a bike. Turns out any changes we made that he suggested, then had us scratching our heads at a loss of rideability. I was told I need to "ride it harder". Needless to say, we always went back to CKT's advised settings.

But hand on heart, I can honestly say that although we've had our ups and downs due to various factors, the BEST setup person (for me) I've been lucky enough to work with is one Mr Shaun Harris. Every issue I had was easy to explain to him from a "feel" point of view and then him translate back to changes made and how it would feel "on the bike". His techniques and tips in race mentality improved my skills no end. Any young rider fortunate to work with Mr Harris can do nothing except go forwards, no lie. He also doesn't tend to bullshit about his acheivements, they're in print all over the world and on the web for anyone to see.

Long story short, from experience of who I've worked with.

Robert and Denis from CKT. Tick
Shaun Harris of Motodynamix. bloody big tick

The other nameless one, EPIC FAIL.

[Robert Taylor]

I want to take no part in what your up to here Robert. What I do know is this was Jays old bike (heavier rider). We all know that by your own admition no one in NZ is as skilled at setting up Ohlins roadracing shocks. A very astute bussiness move would be to undermine any potentual opposition that dares to try and get a piece of the action.

Kerry does seem to have a knack of attracting very fast riders doesn't he! Gareth Jones won both Supersport races at Manfield last nationals on a Yamaha with Kerry setting his bike up.
An experienced rider like Bugden knows what they want and the suspension techs are just there to perform the work right? Bugden would have been faster if he had let Robert do the mods he wanted! I bet Rossi decides what spring and tyres he wants.

I get the feeling that unless Kerry fronts up on here we will only get one side of the story.

"Fueled by insecurity, I mistakenly think that if others are wrong, bad, or fault-ridden, then in comparison I must be right, good, and capable. Does the strategy of putting others down to build up my own self-esteem work? Hardly."

http://www.thubtenchodron.org/DailyLifeDharma/speaking_of_the_faults_of_others.html

Well Im certainly a lot closer to the sharp end of the action than your good self and attend all tracks from top to bottom of the country.
We developed a new bypass bleed path spec and needles for Gareths R6 ( delivered at the first round )and Gareth was very pleased with it. Well at least he was ( nice guy ) but no appreciation from other quarters. PERHAPS WE HAVE PROVIDED SO MUCH BACKUP FOR SO LONG ( ALL TOO OFTEN AT NO COST ) THAT IT IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED??? This spec has been adopted by a number of domestic R6 teams worldwide.
I think when there is money involved ( greeks bearing gifts ) people will find justification to jump and also there is a perception that CKT is often spread thin ( true enough ) Its always easy to align yourself with top riders to look good when in fact it can often be very rewarding helping the grass roots riders, which we often do. And Im not neccessarily talking financial gain!
With Robbie we tried for several rounds to try a totally new fork spec, when he finally did so ( at Pukekohe ) he was faster again. Riders can be fickle.
Ohlins have very high standards and it is up to Ohlins distributors to protect those standards. If indeed the said person had that shock pass through his hands then the issue should have been identified prior to the bike going on track.
We only sanction suspension tuners to work with Ohlins that have been formally trained and accredited and will conform to Ohlins requirements. Those that arent in that loop are not privy to updates at anything like the same pace and can be months behind, even years. That disadvantages their customers. SIMPLE.

[Shaun]

Thankyou very much SIR White trash:hug:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thankyou very much SIR White trash:hug:

SIR? Poofta still drinks Steinie like a...well...like a poofta actually!

[JayRacer37]

I want to take no part in what your up to here Robert. What I do know is this was Jays old bike (heavier rider).


Heavier rider, but lighter springs - I ride the bike a bit differently. And, that shock wouldn't have been like that when Sam got the bike.

[Drew]

Heavier rider, but lighter springs - I ride the bike a bit differently. And, that shock wouldn't have been like that when Sam got the bike.

Bike rode you the way I remember it broseph.

[JayRacer37]

Bike rode you the way I remember it broseph.

lol - caaaaaant! ;)

[CHOPPA]

Heavier rider, but lighter springs - I ride the bike a bit differently. And, that shock wouldn't have been like that when Sam got the bike.

Yup Sam did have it changed, Sam also changed that spring himself im pretty sure....

[Rcktfsh]

I believe Andrew got a prize for having the shortest mechanic..... :whistle:

you forgot slow, rough and obnoxious as well.

[Drew]

I get the feeling that unless Kerry fronts up on here we will only get one side of the story.


Kerry is on this place. Cant remember his name, not that it matters since it would seem he'd rather remain anonymous.

[Shaun]

you forgot slow, rough and obnoxious as well.



Sounds like we both need a fight:2thumbsup

[codgyoleracer]

An interesting read & pertinent thread to many in the road racing game, great to hear the lap times are on the hot side too!

My experience of the Svelte Swedish product (Ohlins) is a no-brainer - top notch gear & hard to beat. It is also very well distributed and serviced in New Zealand & Worlwide.
As Robert says - riders can be fickle & we all do things / make changes for on occasions " the wrong reasons" , - but most of us will try " almost anything" to go that little bit faster.
My service experience with Dukic Suspension has overall been very good, - Kerry has a " different approach" to many and can cetainly regail a humourous story or two along the way........, thats not to say Robert cant either (some of his stories of a certain retired female prime-minister - are not printable here......) :-)

There are also other suspension brands & service options available in New Zealand & some of these are underdeveloped & often overlooked. It pays to keep an open-mind to any options that might provide an advantages.

Bottom line & my favorite quote to any rider young or old "The stopwatch doesnt lie" - believe in it FULL STOP.
Use what ever product /service agent / or mentor that gives you an ever improving laptime.
Glen

[Zuki lover]

Well done Sam Love and Stroudy.

1:06.202 - #2 Andrew Stroud (F1)
1.09.914 - #82 Sam Love (F2)

Now can someone tell me what the Production Supersport and Superbike lap records are for Manfeild?

:2thumbsup Good on ya boys

[suzuki21]

We developed a new bypass bleed path spec and needles for Gareths R6 ( delivered at the first round )and Gareth was very pleased with it. Well at least he was ( nice guy ) but no appreciation from other quarters. PERHAPS WE HAVE PROVIDED SO MUCH BACKUP FOR SO LONG ( ALL TOO OFTEN AT NO COST ) THAT IT IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED??? This spec has been adopted by a number of domestic R6 teams worldwide.
I think when there is money involved ( greeks bearing gifts ) people will find justification to jump and also there is a perception that CKT is often spread thin ( true enough ) Its always easy to align yourself with top riders to look good when in fact it can often be very rewarding helping the grass roots riders, which we often do. And Im not neccessarily talking financial gain!


I dont use large words like Robert -
You have turned into a real arsehole Robert - I used to like you. Emailing a race teams major sponsor slagging them off and risking the future of that team just because they want to use another suspension person and another brand product to make it cheaper shows what a greedy and disgusting person you have become. Trying to fuck over a large well known team in NZ wont do you any favours with a lot of people. You need to get over yourself and accept that people are allowed to choose who and what product they use.

So you dont think this is from some person that has no idea about fuck all

"REGARDS"
STEPHEN RAYMOND SANGSTER
KAPONGA CITY

[White trash]

I dont use large words like Robert -
You have turned into a real arsehole Robert - I used to like you. Emailing a race teams major sponsor slagging them off and risking the future of that team just because they want to use another suspension person and another brand product to make it cheaper shows what a greedy and disgusting person you have become. Trying to fuck over a large well known team in NZ wont do you any favours with a lot of people. You need to get over yourself and accept that people are allowed to choose who and what product they use.

So you dont think this is from some person that has no idea about fuck all

"REGARDS"
STEPHEN RAYMOND SANGSTER
KAPONGA CITY
Fucken 'ell, don't hold back Steve. Tell us what you really think. LOL.

No really, I'm actually laughing out loud. Best post on KB in quite a while :D

[Robert Taylor]

I dont use large words like Robert -
You have turned into a real arsehole Robert - I used to like you. Emailing a race teams major sponsor slagging them off and risking the future of that team just because they want to use another suspension person and another brand product to make it cheaper shows what a greedy and disgusting person you have become. Trying to fuck over a large well known team in NZ wont do you any favours with a lot of people. You need to get over yourself and accept that people are allowed to choose who and what product they use.

So you dont think this is from some person that has no idea about fuck all

"REGARDS"
STEPHEN RAYMOND SANGSTER
KAPONGA CITY

I think you need to re read that again even though you were not the intended recipient, you only took what you wanted out of it with an imbalanced and overly emotive viewpoint. Were it not confidential people would make their own judgement call based on the WHOLE CONTEXT, which was fair, totally factual and balanced ( and you know it ) And an expression to maintain dialogue.
Yes people are free to choose and use. I only feel aggrieved because of the use of my equipment for some considerable time at no lease charge( from which the person recieved not inconsiderable income ) and that just didnt matter one brass razoo when it came down to tin tacks.
I neither apologise for;
1) Having paid attention at school and having a habit of using large words ( so what, am I to be burnt at the stake for having the temerity to do so? )
2) Having some old world etiquette of fairness
3) Complaining when there is visibly shonky work happening.

I will not be used again, nothing more to be said.

[suzuki21]

I think you need to re read that again even though you were not the intended recipient, you only took what you wanted out of it with an imbalanced and overly emotive viewpoint. Were it not confidential people would make their own judgement call based on the WHOLE CONTEXT, which was fair, totally factual and balanced ( and you know it ) And an expression to maintain dialogue.
Yes people are free to choose and use. I only feel aggrieved because of the use of my equipment for some considerable time at no lease charge( from which the person recieved not inconsiderable income ) and that just didnt matter one brass razoo when it came down to tin tacks.
I neither apologise for;
1) Having paid attention at school and having a habit of using large words ( so what, am I to be burnt at the stake for having the temerity to do so? )
2) Having some old world etiquette of fairness
3) Complaining when there is visibly shonky work happening.

I will not be used again, nothing more to be said.

I apllogize robert, Brain made lots of mony out of dieynoing his own bikes with your dieyno. Is temerity like telemitry?

[Robert Taylor]

I apllogize robert, Brain made lots of mony out of dieynoing his own bikes with your dieyno. Is temerity like telemitry?

And others, I dont begrudge an income having been accrued, I just begrudge being taken for granted. That is reasonable to be angry about.

Several weeks ago I reaffirmed with his principal sponsor that I would loan one set of suspension for Gareth Jones use this season to help ensure that there was a Yamaha on the track. This followed up from making the offer even earlier ( You can check but it didnt go beyond his principal sponsor, but as you have chosen to publish imbalanced snippets into the public arena I may as well disclose that ) This rises totally above all reservations I have with certain personalities. There were no contentious strings attached but heck in light of what you have just said do I consider now withdrawing such an offer that will help get bikes on the grid?

Are these the actions of a money grubbing a..ehole?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are these the actions of a money grubbing a..ehole?

Grabbing...the word you're looking for is grabbing.

My pleasure.

[Robert Taylor]

An interesting read & pertinent thread to many in the road racing game, great to hear the lap times are on the hot side too!

My experience of the Svelte Swedish product (Ohlins) is a no-brainer - top notch gear & hard to beat. It is also very well distributed and serviced in New Zealand & Worlwide.
As Robert says - riders can be fickle & we all do things / make changes for on occasions " the wrong reasons" , - but most of us will try " almost anything" to go that little bit faster.
My service experience with Dukic Suspension has overall been very good, - Kerry has a " different approach" to many and can cetainly regail a humourous story or two along the way........, thats not to say Robert cant either (some of his stories of a certain retired female prime-minister - are not printable here......) :-)

There are also other suspension brands & service options available in New Zealand & some of these are underdeveloped & often overlooked. It pays to keep an open-mind to any options that might provide an advantages.

Bottom line & my favorite quote to any rider young or old "The stopwatch doesnt lie" - believe in it FULL STOP.
Use what ever product /service agent / or mentor that gives you an ever improving laptime.
Glen

All good Glenn and its so relevant about keeping an open mind about alternative products. We will have a Race Tech shock to test in the near future. The unfortunate fact with these is that they are currently more expensive than the Swedish product.

[Robert Taylor]

Grabbing...the word you're looking for is grabbing.

My pleasure.

I actually thought the word grubbing was a tad more subtle!

This thread actually highlights something that is not always fully realised by many spectataors / casual observers and also many racers, the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes and also at the coalface for the passion and in fact no monetary return.
Engine builders like Dave Cole, Brian Bernard and Chris Osbourne will into the wee small hours spend literally hundreds of man hours building engines for their team riders, totally unpaid. Also trackside. In the bigger economies people are paid to do so.
In our own case as one small example of many over the years we have during the winter series further developed suspension settings on the Team Honda CBRs and now we are just as engaged getting the GSXR1000K9 up to speed. Aside from components this work is TOTALLY UNPAID. So much is taken for granted and if you consider the ratio of input to return for motorcycle distributors, accessory distributors and specialists it doesnt really stack up. That is why I take exception to stupid comments of '' money grabbing '' etc

[Crasherfromwayback]

Engine builders like Dave Cole,

Old Dave...he always could build a *Good* motor. No doubt about the guys riding ability...but boy was his RS, SORRY...NSR 250 fast back then! Bout as fast as my built in NZ KR1SP. Funny that.

[GSVR]

Still undecided as to if Sams issue is over not getting the drive out of corners was due to the power delivery of the R6 compared to Glens GSXR and different riding style. That and the fact Sam has not even been on the 600 long and may be trying to snap the throttle on a bit too aggressively like he could do with the SV.

When you look at the Superbikes they where 1 second off Nationals lap record pace but Sam and Glen where both around 2 seconds off Nationals pace. So I would think both riders will be aiming to go around a second faster in these conditions and 2 seconds faster if track conditions are ideal in the summer.

Great to have young consistantly fast riders like Sam and Glen and looks like we are in store for more close and interesting racing. Get along to the next round on the 17th people as the racing has been good and best of all spectating is free!

[Shaun]

Still undecided as to if Sams issue is over not getting the drive out of corners was due to the power delivery of the R6 compared to Glens GSXR and different riding style. That and the fact Sam has not even been on the 600 long and may be trying to snap the throttle on a bit too aggressively like he could do with the SV.

When you look at the Superbikes they where 1 second off Nationals lap record pace but Sam and Glen where both around 2 seconds off Nationals pace. So I would think both riders will be aiming to go around a second faster in these conditions and 2 seconds faster if track conditions are ideal in the summer.

Great to have young consistantly fast riders like Sam and Glen and looks like we are in store for more close and interesting racing. Get along to the next round on the 17th people as the racing has been good and best of all spectating is free!


Slicks versus Treads might have had a little bit to do with what you noticed, but as you say, Sam has not been on his 600 a lot as yet, and Glenn is riding the wheels of his well set up Ohlin's equipt bike, all internall work done by (CKT)

Sam's bike did have the better Top speed though, and so it should for it;s vintage compared to Glenn's bike

100% agree with the last Paragraph

[Rcktfsh]

That is what happens when a capalist pig apairs apparently:2thumbsup

Yeah never would have happened if he'd stayed true and voted Labour like his father did.

[Shaun]

Yeah never would have happened if he'd stayed true and voted like his father did.



Ha Ha, now go and get some one out of Prison

[Robert Taylor]

Ha Ha, now go and get some one out of Prison

I bet if you did an informal vote of the entire prison population theyd predominantly vote for the political system that pampers them the most, and thats left of centre.!!!!

[AndrewStroud]

I actually thought the word grubbing was a tad more subtle!

This thread actually highlights something that is not always fully realised by many spectataors / casual observers and also many racers, the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes and also at the coalface for the passion and in fact no monetary return.
Engine builders like Dave Cole, Brian Bernard and Chris Osbourne will into the wee small hours spend literally hundreds of man hours building engines for their team riders, totally unpaid. Also trackside. In the bigger economies people are paid to do so.
In our own case as one small example of many over the years we have during the winter series further developed suspension settings on the Team Honda CBRs and now we are just as engaged getting the GSXR1000K9 up to speed. Aside from components this work is TOTALLY UNPAID. So much is taken for granted and if you consider the ratio of input to return for motorcycle distributors, accessory distributors and specialists it doesnt really stack up. That is why I take exception to stupid comments of '' money grabbing '' etc

It may be easy to over look what we have in NZ, with Denis and Robert on hand to revalve shocks or forks (in 20 minutes or so) at the track. You can really make some fast progress.
I never had such a good service available in all my 14yrs racing overseas. That's including WSB & 500GP's. I don't know what arrangement CKT has with Suzuki but I've never been asked for a cent!!
Seriously appreciated Robert / Denis

[White trash]

It may be easy to over look what we have in NZ, with Denis and Robert on hand to revalve shocks or forks (in 20 minutes or so) at the track. You can really make some fast progress.
I never had such a good service available in all my 14yrs racing overseas. That's including WSB & 500GP's. I don't know what arrangement CKT has with Suzuki but I've never been asked for a cent!!
Seriously appreciated Robert / Denis
This thread just keeps getting better and better.

And what's better, it doesn't matter if you're New Zealands longest standing current professional racer, or a total newbie to the sport OR not even using the product sold. You get EXACTLY the same service. And all it cost me was the purchase of a rear shock and a front cartridge kit.

[GSVR]

This thread just keeps getting better and better.

And what's better, it doesn't matter if you're New Zealands longest standing current professional racer, or a total newbie to the sport OR not even using the product sold. You get EXACTLY the same service. And all it cost me was the purchase of a rear shock and a front cartridge kit.

No wonder the world economy is so bad everyones taking Chinas lead and working for free.

[Shaun]

This thread just keeps getting better and better.

And what's better, it doesn't matter if you're New Zealands longest standing current professional racer, or a total newbie to the sport OR not even using the product sold. You get EXACTLY the same service. And all it cost me was the purchase of a rear shock and a front cartridge kit.


Even better than dude, with riders like Andrew Stroud, Heyden Fitz, Craig Shirrif's etc, CKT are learning new tricks all the time, which I know Robert/Dennis pass on to who ever they think will benifit from it! NOT who they just choose to, there are NO real secrets kept???????:beer:

I know this is the style of Robert's, as I always as an ex fastish rider, used to do a lot of testing and development riding, and used to argue like --ck with him, about passing on the development feal that I had decided was good for the bike and tyres way back when, Really hated that, but he does do it, I think I may have even begged him to hold on to info for at least 1 round, so I gained the advantage that I thought I had earned, but NO, being the DTR at it this game with very high passion and commitment to it, all got it!!!

You know what you are Taylor:angry2:

[Shaun]

I bet if you did an informal vote of the entire prison population theyd predominantly vote for the political system that pampers them the most, and thats left of centre.!!!!



Doubt it fool, I bet only about 10% of them can read:whistle:

[Maido]

Wicked, I have just sent my forks and shock up to Robert, I was half expecting to have to pay!

But seriously Robert and Dennis to tireless work at the track. Andrew summed it up well in his post. I always make a point to thank CKT for everything cos I wouldn't be going fast if it wasn't for them.
Not that I go fast at all!

Jeremy H

[Shaun]

Wicked, I have just sent my forks and shock up to Robert, I was half expecting to have to pay!

But seriously Robert and Dennis to tireless work at the track. Andrew summed it up well in his post. I always make a point to thank CKT for everything cos I wouldn't be going fast if it wasn't for them.
Not that I go fast at all!

Jeremy H



You weight til you try the brakes mate, they have developed a brilliant set up for that now, I have watched the development of it, and the riders gains from it at all the Vic rounds bit by bit so far this year, bloody impressive late breaking mate

Now get my bed made for January, I like Cooked Breakfast also

[White trash]

No wonder the world economy is so bad everyones taking Chinas lead and working for free.
Lol. you really like to be an argumentitive bugger, don't ya Garry.

All good though, I'll bite.

In this instance, I'm sure the complete oposite is quite true. For example, Roberts business is surely far busier now than it ever has, due to all the hard work he and Dennis put in and people seing true value for their money. Seen the new building? Farkin awesome, full noise, 24/7. I'd also hazard a guess that Ohlins has a stronger market share amongst racers than it's ever had in New Zealand. Not because it's necessarily the best, but because it has by far the best representation at the track by two TRAINED professional tuners.

[Drew]

Where's all the haters gone? This thread was funnier before!

[Shaun]

Lol. you really like to be an argumentitive bugger, don't ya Garry.

All good though, I'll bite.

In this instance, I'm sure the complete oposite is quite true. For example, Roberts business is surely far busier now than it ever has, due to all the hard work he and Dennis put in and people seing true value for their money. Seen the new building? Farkin awesome, full noise, 24/7. I'd also hazard a guess that Ohlins has a stronger market share amongst racers than it's ever had in New Zealand. Not because it's necessarily the best, but because it has by far the best representation at the track by two TRAINED professional tuners.



And not to forget the MotoX Scene man, imagine how many bikes are Ohlin's kitted at that! And they are Flat out with that as well as road/Track

[White trash]

Where's all the haters gone? This thread was funnier before!
Fuckup shit for brains, I'll smash ya head in.

[Shaun]

Where's all the haters gone? This thread was funnier before!



Ha Ha, I cannot use my HEAD INJURY as an exscuse for talking shite and getting angry on a keyboard any more! All would just know that I am a tosser:2thumbsup


But you are still a Dick any way

[White trash]

And not to forget the MotoX Scene man, imagine how many bikes are Ohlin's kitted at that! And they are Flat out with that as well as road/Track
And TRS. I'm sure the makers of that series did their homework before appointing a supplier of suspension.

[Shaun]

Fuckup shit for brains, I'll smash ya head in.


According to ya Mrs, you Cannot even AIM at the Toilet Bowl, how the hell you gunna hit him

[Shaun]

And TRS. I'm sure the makers of that series did their homework before appointing a supplier of suspension.


I reckon people will be saying I am just licking his arse because I might race a bike again some time

[White trash]

I reckon people will be saying I am just licking his arse because I might race a bike again some time
Surely there'd be no chance of that?!

[Shaun]

Surely there'd be no chance of that?!

I'm just a silly old dreamer dude

[Drew]

Fuckup shit for brains, I'll smash ya head in.I just pee'd a little from laughing at that.


All would just know that I am a tosser:2thumbsup


I thought that was the general consensus, head injury or no. Boy did I have it wrong.

[Crasherfromwayback]

All good though, I'll bite.


Keep calling me Big Nose and you won't have any teeth to bite with.:crybaby:

[GSVR]

"We spend a LOT of money on product advertising, magazine articles and on this forum answering questions etc. Our investment in the supension industry is substanial. The reality is there will always be other people feeding off the fruits of such promotion. "

I seriously think Mr Stroud should consider racing on Continentals. I reacon it would be a win/win situation.

Spectators should not be allowed to post in the racers forums either!

[Str8 Jacket]

Spectators should not be allowed to post in the racers forums either!

Soooo, why are you?... :shake:

[suzuki21]

It may be easy to over look what we have in NZ, with Denis and Robert on hand to revalve shocks or forks (in 20 minutes or so) at the track. You can really make some fast progress.
I never had such a good service available in all my 14yrs racing overseas. That's including WSB & 500GP's. I don't know what arrangement CKT has with Suzuki but I've never been asked for a cent!!
Seriously appreciated Robert / Denis

I totally agree with you Andrew, Robert has helped a lot over the years. But when he asks for $300/bike/weekend (when he says he does work unpaid) so a team has to subsidise everyone else, and then bring a team into disrepute with their sponsor is not cricket. Im sure you wouldnt like it if he emailed Tom and tried to ruin everything for your racing sponsorship. Sponsorship is hard enough to find now.

[White trash]

Keep calling me Big Nose and you won't have any teeth to bite with.:crybaby:
What a tough cunt.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What a tough cunt.

That's much better thanks!

[cs363]

They're all bloody lucky I was busy this weekend. That...and my leathers have shrunk.

You should buy a Lotto ticket mate, what's the chances of your leathers and your MX pants both shrinking in the same week? Spooky.... :whistle:

[Sidewinder]

im on a boat!!!!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

You should buy a Lotto ticket mate, what's the chances of your leathers and your MX pants both shrinking in the same week? Spooky.... :whistle:

I know mate. Odd.

[Rcktfsh]

You should buy a Lotto ticket mate, what's the chances of your leathers and your MX pants both shrinking in the same week? Spooky.... :whistle:

I think its just that particular brand, that xxl combo (such a big suit for a man of modest height) you were modelling on sunday despite appearing quite new was looking under pressure at the seams.

[cs363]

I think its just that particular brand, that xxl combo (such a big suit for a man of modest height) you were modelling on sunday despite appearing quite new was looking under pressure at the seams.

Pot, kettle, black.

Besides, Pete's too tight to buy flash shit like that - all his money goes to the sifting budget...

[GSVR]

Soooo, why are you?... :shake:

Because I realise that KB forums is all about me and the place just seems so dull when I stop the posting and creating these threads that are compelling reading.

My only wish is that I may some day be allowed to moderate my own threads. Then I would be able to remove posts by people like Whitetrash and his brother Drew whom seem intent on trying to incite riotous behaviour!

Tally Ho off for tea and biccies now...

[Crasherfromwayback]

My only wish is that I may some day be allowed to moderate my own threads. Then I would be able to remove posts by people like Whitetrash and his brother Drew whom seem intent on trying to incite riotous behaviour!

They tell everyone they're brothers...when in actual fact they're ex lovers.

[Kickaha]

Then I would be able to remove posts by people like Whitetrash and his brother Drew whom seem intent on trying to incite riotous behaviour!

Fuck them then, I'll bash them both:girlfight:

[Robert Taylor]

I totally agree with you Andrew, Robert has helped a lot over the years. But when he asks for $300/bike/weekend (when he says he does work unpaid) so a team has to subsidise everyone else, and then bring a team into disrepute with their sponsor is not cricket. Im sure you wouldnt like it if he emailed Tom and tried to ruin everything for your racing sponsorship. Sponsorship is hard enough to find now.

Youve still got your facts wrong and you are less than aware of everything, or choose not to be.
There is plenty of stuff that the team you refer to has had totally FOC over many years, care to elaborate? I would jolly well suggest that you stop digging yourself an even bigger hole.

[codgyoleracer]

They tell everyone they're brothers...when in actual fact they're ex lovers.

I heard that too................ :-)

[scracha]

According to ya Mrs, you Cannot even AIM at the Toilet Bowl, how the hell you gunna hit him

The target is much further away when you're not a midget though.



They tell everyone they're brothers...when in actual fact they're ex lovers.

I thought that was normal in this country?

[Drew]

Then I would be able to remove posts by people like Whitetrash and his brother Drew whom seem intent on trying to incite riotous behaviour!What you got against riotous behaviour?


They tell everyone they're brothers...when in actual fact they're ex lovers.We're both fucker!


Fuck them then, I'll bash them both:girlfight:Better get some fresh batteries for the pace maker then ol' fella, it's gonna go a few rounds, and we fight dirty. Hair pulling, biting, clawing. THE WORKS!

[snapoff]

What you got against riotous behaviour?

We're both fucker!

Better get some fresh batteries for the pace maker then ol' fella, it's gonna go a few rounds, and we fight dirty. Hair pulling, biting, clawing. THE WORKS!

O so thats y you guys are missing hair:clap:

[Tony.OK]

We're both fucker!


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[codgyoleracer]

OYYY--enough of the old stuff. If stroudys old that makes me friggin gerriatric

Havent you heard Frosty - all the old fellas are meant to hang up their boots n start playing golf & collecting stamps or something....... + there is always trainspotting i suppose.......

[roadracingoldfart]

Keep calling me Big Nose and you won't have any teeth to bite with.:crybaby:

Its just big , not big nose , sheeesh pete.


What a tough cunt.

Insert TUI advert here.


That's much better thanks!

Dont you normally drink Ranfurly pete ???


They tell everyone they're brothers...when in actual fact they're ex lovers.

Ahhhh an jilted lover spurned , keep it seemly.


Im getting worried about you two .

[roadracingoldfart]

Havent you heard Frosty - all the old fellas are meant to hang up their boots n start playing golf & collecting stamps or something....... + there is always trainspotting i suppose.......


Well im rooted ,
i retired from racing ,
i got older while i was retired ,
and now ive sold the racebike .


Please tell me i dont have to play golf .

[cs363]

Well im rooted ,
i retired from racing ,
i got older while i was retired ,
and now ive sold the racebike .


Please tell me i dont have to play golf .

There, there...now sit quietly in your armchair and I'll make you a cuppa in your favourite cup:

[Tony.OK]

Please tell me i dont have to play golf .

Nah mate that'd be a disaster, you being such a skinny buggar someone would end up grabbing you instead of their putter, that would just be embarrassing:blink:

[roadracingoldfart]

Nah mate that'd be a disaster, you being such a skinny buggar someone would end up grabbing you instead of their putter, that would just be embarrassing:blink:


I always wanted to see golf as a two person game .... hit the ball and the guy at the other end hits it back with bonus points for hitting it on the full.


And less of the skinny you fat shit :2guns:, i prefer "developing athletic frame ". :blink::confused:
Like a racing sardine.:shit:

[roadracingoldfart]

There, there...now sit quietly in your armchair and I'll make you a cuppa in your favourite cup:


Ok i feel like im relaxing now .

[roadracingoldfart]

Anyway , i held a record at manfeild for a couple of years in the early 90s.

I crashed twice in the same race and still won but , Nick O took my crown as he crashed in the same corner, now thats style.

Ahhhh past days lol . that RCB 1000 was fast .

[codgyoleracer]

Well im rooted ,
i retired from racing ,
i got older while i was retired ,
and now ive sold the racebike .


Please tell me i dont have to play golf .

I know the new owner & he is looking forward to thrashing the nuts off it, Racing is easy comnpared to Golf IMO

[roadracingoldfart]

I know the new owner & he is looking forward to thrashing the nuts off it, Racing is easy comnpared to Golf IMO


Well if he thrashes the bike as much as he thrashed the glass bits in the van that were for you , hes gonna do ok lol.

Golf isnt hard , its a waste of time .IMO lol.

Paul.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Golf isnt hard , its a waste of time .IMO lol.

Paul.

Golf is great!