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Magua
12th April 2005, 21:19
I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune :confused: . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.
Ixion
12th April 2005, 21:24
I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune :confused: . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.
???? Too old for a tune ??? Wot a load of bollocks. No bike is "too old" to tune. A real old one might not benefit so much , but we'd be talking 1920's or earlier here. Ask them what they really mean. Probably they don't have a manual for it and don't know what to set it to.
If you can tune a Manx Norton or KTT Velo (and you sure can), then anything newer is certainly a goer. I tune my T500 regularly and that's 1972
riffer
12th April 2005, 21:42
???? Too old for a tune ??? Wot a load of bollocks. No bike is "too old" to tune. A real old one might not benefit so much , but we'd be talking 1920's or earlier here. Ask them what they really mean. Probably they don't have a manual for it and don't know what to set it to.
If you can tune a Manx Norton or KTT Velo (and you sure can), then anything newer is certainly a goer. I tune my T500 regularly and that's 1972
Maybe not chronological age. More like too old as in too worn out.
Jeez you're tough on bikes Magua... :whistle:
Magua
12th April 2005, 22:11
Hahah, 38,000k's. It's not that old. He might be afraid that it would fall apart if he touched it. Actually, I just did a sweep and there is no evidence of my sellotape repairs left on the bike anymore, go the new fairings . :2thumbsup
Ixion
12th April 2005, 22:13
Hahah, 38,000k's. It's not that old. He might be afraid that it would fall apart if he touched it. Actually, I just did a sweep and there is no evidence of my sellotape repairs left of the bike anymore, go the new fairings . :2thumbsup
T500's done 60000 miles ` 100000 ks and it's not about to fall apart.
Indiana_Jones
12th April 2005, 22:17
"The FZR is not old. No one would call her old. She has a bluff bow, lovely lines, she is a fine sea-boat, weatherly, stiff and fast. Very fast, if she's well handled." :niceone:
-Indy
Magua
12th April 2005, 22:19
Haha, so you are saying my bike would float better than it rides?
bugjuice
12th April 2005, 22:21
lamo.. too old for a tune..
now where's my left handed screwdriver..?
Zed
12th April 2005, 22:24
I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune :confused: . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.Maybe it's too old for a Dyno-tune ?, but *never* too old for a good mechanic to tune up the engine so it's running right. Sounds like they're giving you the run around bud, you are right in taking it elsewhere to have the work done in that case.
I can recommend taking it to Brent at Spectrum Motorcycles, Takapuna. He's always done a good job on my cickles. However, the last courtesy bike he gave me would have probably been too old to tune up! :msn-wink:
Ps. Any mechanic who lies to you to weasle out of a 'difficult' job is a loser and not worth the time of day! :nono:
Motu
12th April 2005, 22:35
Just a case of diminishing returns for them - one thing will lead to another,one fault fixed highlights another,they can't stop once they've started...and then you've got a bill twice the value of the bike...then you are back every week complaing because something else has gone wrong.Been there done that...countless times,pretty good move on their part.
Redstar
12th April 2005, 22:47
Its a problem in that while real old bikes can get sorted cause they obey basic principles of tuning, and the latest bikes fall into the techno age of chips ECU programming and the such but the glam rock bikes that need the tecno knowledge but lack the back up are a problem to the Auto-electrician because they are the in-betweenies and so no one wants to deal to the half tech needs? maybe? its like gameboy revisited?
Ixion
12th April 2005, 22:52
Just a case of diminishing returns for them - one thing will lead to another,one fault fixed highlights another,they can't stop once they've started...and then you've got a bill twice the value of the bike...then you are back every week complaing because something else has gone wrong.Been there done that...countless times,pretty good move on their part.
At 38000 k's ? On that basis what is the effective life of a bike ? Junk it as soon as it's out of wareenty?
Motu
12th April 2005, 23:13
At 38000 k's ? On that basis what is the effective life of a bike ? Junk it as soon as it's out of wareenty?
Sometimes things are just out of phase with mileage - carbs are a real headache these days,with cars we haven't seen them for nearly 10 yrs,and every time we touch one it all goes horribly wrong.Multiple carbs are worse,and I don't envy a motorcycle mechanic in that regard.Give me computers and injectors any day - quite frankly I can diagnose them easier than carbs now.
Ixion
13th April 2005, 00:13
..Multiple carbs are worse,and I don't envy a motorcycle mechanic in that regard...
Triple dual throat Webers on a Jag can be fun too.
It's all the emission stuff that makes carbs hard, and most bikes don't have much of that. My Pajero has a carb that has more pipes and incomprehensible crap on it than any carb has any right to have. I daren't even look in its direction or I'll start feeling ill, and be forced (for purely medicinal reasons, as I explain to Mrs Ixion) to go for a long ride.
Amal monobloc, can't go wrong with those. Balance 'em with a bit of hose listening to the hiss!
riffer
13th April 2005, 07:55
Triple dual throat Webers on a Jag can be fun too.
Try an early 1970's Porsche 911. Twice that.
Magua
13th April 2005, 14:17
I just heard from Red Baron, $700 to $1000 dollars if it is the carbs, which it probably is (crap fuel economy and two to three flatspots). I'll take it in for them to look at sometime this week, Mt Eden too. How much do you think I'd get for such a bike? It'll stick a pricecheck thread up with some pics later tonight.
MSTRS
13th April 2005, 14:27
Try an early 1970's Porsche 911. Twice that.
Sorry for being a bit slow (and a tread pirate) but that is one perdy lil scoot you got there, Oh & like the name change too. As you were.
ManDownUnder
13th April 2005, 14:30
I just heard from Red Baron, $700 to $1000 dollars if it is the carbs, which it probably is (crap fuel economy and two to three flatspots). I'll take it in for them to look at sometime this week, Mt Eden too. How much do you think I'd get for such a bike? It'll stick a pricecheck thread up with some pics later tonight.
oooo not good.
Maybe get some 2nd hand ones from a wrecker or sommat?
MDU
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