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cheshirecat
28th September 2009, 14:40
Just completed 90,000k on my 94 VFR. Bought it 15 months ago with 64,000k on it.
It came with a complete service record.
Aside from standard new bike service the valves have only been done twice, 15000 and 34,000. They haven't needed adjusting since.
Two new chains – x ring 40,000 and 86,000
One set of sprockets 40,000k
One set of brake pads 40,000k
One regulator 42,000k
Three sets of spark plugs, most recent 76,000
Two batteries 42,000 and 88,000
fork oil(10W) 90,000k - it needed it!
Up grade of main lights at 74,000k to plus 90% Hellas otherwise all seem original.
It came with new rear Pirelli and 70%new on the front
Since then I've used one front Shinko and the rear Shinko is coming up 80% worn. I'll replace the rear with another Shinko. There is a new Conti Road Attack with 2000k on it. I'm running the front Conti between 38 and 42 – it's 42 on the Conti website.
Lots of oil changes. Longest between changes has been 6500k
The only failures to date have been the two batteries and the regulator
The bike is standard, with original exhaust but I have Oxford heated grips, pack rack and Hella plus 90's
I use various forms of luggage according to needs, an Orse tank bag, Ventura soft paniers and topbox - oh and the dog abode.
There's been a mint spent on cleaning stuff.
Kinje
28th September 2009, 15:59
New Zealands coast is only 15,134 km and it's been around since long before 1994! Not sure of its maintenance record though :whistle:
Headbanger
28th September 2009, 16:06
I figured this was going to be about running around both islands.....
Devil
28th September 2009, 16:24
There is a new Conti Road Attack with 2000k on it. I'm running the front Conti between 38 and 42 – it's 42 on the Conti website.
FYI, it's the rear that should be 42, the front recommended pressure is 36...
Squiggles
28th September 2009, 16:41
its only on its second set of pads? :crazy:
slofox
28th September 2009, 16:42
I figured this was going to be about running around both islands.....
Yeah. I thought that as well...I hate running the coasts - the fuckin tide comes in and ya get wet...
Insanity_rules
28th September 2009, 20:24
I would hate to think what the Ducati costs me but frankly I don't care. Its worth it.
cheshirecat
29th September 2009, 09:47
FYI, it's the rear that should be 42, the front recommended pressure is 36...
Yes that's what I started out with but it's got 42 on the front and the Conti web site recccommends 2.9 bar which equates to 42. It certainly handles better at 42,( even the pillion notices the diffence) 36 always seemed a bit odd at low speed, especially when wet and a gribley surface, so I ended up at 37/38 which seemed fine wet and dry until reading the web site info. I keep the rear at 42.
Devil
29th September 2009, 13:54
Yes that's what I started out with but it's got 42 on the front and the Conti web site recccommends 2.9 bar which equates to 42. It certainly handles better at 42,( even the pillion notices the diffence) 36 always seemed a bit odd at low speed, especially when wet and a gribley surface, so I ended up at 37/38 which seemed fine wet and dry until reading the web site info. I keep the rear at 42.
The conti website says 2.5 bar..., 2.9 for the rear...
Is the tyre even warming up?
cheshirecat
29th September 2009, 14:50
The conti website says 2.5 bar..., 2.9 for the rear...
Is the tyre even warming up?
Yes you're right. Must have left my monacle by the zimmer frame.
I was told this by someone at a certain American m/c dealers in Welly a couple of weeks ago so I'll pop back and correct them. I started at 42 but dropped to 37/38. Most of the journeys are shortish with no motorway, so they are only getting luke warm. Eitherway I really like them in the wet and will be looking for some wet cobblestones.
vifferman
29th September 2009, 15:04
Hmmmmm.... Running costs, eh?
I dare not add up all the costs in my slightly less than 5 years of current bike ownership and 20,000 miles.
OH what the hell - let's give it crack.
Lessee.....
Nine oil changes @ ~$50 each
Five filters @ $20 (actually less, but rounded)
One battery $80
One set of rear brake pads, two front, @ $??? ($300??)
One chain and two sprockets ~$350
Three sets of tyres @ ~$520 each
A set of instrument bulbs @ $20
Headlight bulb @ $20
Taillight bulb @$10
Spark plugs - 2 sets @$80ish and $132
Evo Star shifter kit $350
Footpeg brackets from Canadia @free! (but $30 postage)
Sundry fasteners, cush rubbers, etc. $150
Steering head bearings ?? ($150?)
PCII $200
Replacement heated grips $100
Chain lube etc. $50
Gargre door opener button $20 (was less, but had to replace it)
Front confirminators $20
Bulbs $10
CF confirminator plates $20
Hugger $157
Spare restrictor for the Satantune $40
New rear shock $1000
New fork springs $200
Fork oil $40
Fork seals and bushes $141
Fork Overhaul $785
More new fork springs and more fork work and more fork oil $130
JB Weld for cracked crankcase $14
Coolant $25
Speedo corrector $50
Fuel $12 meeelleeons
Depreciation $6000
Insurance ~$3000
Bike gear replaced in last five years: $3100
That's um ...er ... ah... $18,854, not counting petrol, so it's around $1 per mile (speedo's in mph). :crazy:
Petrol.... hmmmm..... around 2120 litees (guesstimate) at ~$1.60ish, so that's another $3384.
What a lovely cheap hobby.... :eek5:
cheshirecat
29th September 2009, 15:38
Hmmmmm.... Running costs, eh?
That's um ...er ... ah... $18,854, not counting petrol, so it's around $1 per mile (speedo's in mph). :crazy:
Petrol.... hmmmm..... around 2120 litees (guesstimate) at ~$1.60ish, so that's another $3384.
What a lovely cheap hobby.... :eek5:
That's getting close to owning a yacht
nico
29th September 2009, 16:22
I would hate to think what the Ducati costs me but frankly I don't care. Its worth it.
dribble mark lol
nico
29th September 2009, 16:31
Just completed 90,000k on my 94 VFR. Bought it 15 months ago with 64,000k on it.
It came with a complete service record.
Aside from standard new bike service the valves have only been done twice, 15000 and 34,000. They haven't needed adjusting since.
Two new chains – x ring 40,000 and 86,000
One set of sprockets 40,000k
One set of brake pads 40,000k
One regulator 42,000k
Three sets of spark plugs, most recent 76,000
Two batteries 42,000 and 88,000
fork oil(10W) 90,000k - it needed it!
Up grade of main lights at 74,000k to plus 90% Hellas otherwise all seem original.
It came with new rear Pirelli and 70%new on the front
Since then I've used one front Shinko and the rear Shinko is coming up 80% worn. I'll replace the rear with another Shinko. There is a new Conti Road Attack with 2000k on it. I'm running the front Conti between 38 and 42 – it's 42 on the Conti website.
Lots of oil changes. Longest between changes has been 6500k
The only failures to date have been the two batteries and the regulator
The bike is standard, with original exhaust but I have Oxford heated grips, pack rack and Hella plus 90's
I use various forms of luggage according to needs, an Orse tank bag, Ventura soft paniers and topbox - oh and the dog abode.
There's been a mint spent on cleaning stuff.
ive the same model in welly too just gone over 140thou got the bike at 90thou we must have difrent stiles of riding my maientanc cost's seems rather difrent lol,
just about to put my 2nd stearing head bearing did last one at 100km did pads also ,due to do again soon, oil every 5thou inc forks a few set of shinkos (great tyre btw) haters:) dash shit it's self at around 135km new digital dash instaled, has 2brothers exhaust k&n filter others than that standard
Insanity_rules
29th September 2009, 19:22
dribble mark lol
Good on yer Wil, wanna swap servicing costs?
nico
29th September 2009, 19:41
Good on yer Wil, wanna swap servicing costs?
hahahah does it come with the bike to im gna be up for some kick ass bill;s soon thats forsure
Insanity_rules
29th September 2009, 19:49
hahahah does it come with the bike to im gna be up for some kick ass bill;s soon thats forsure
Me too, I'm due belts and desmo adjustment in 5000ks. That won't take long to hit that mileage.
road king
29th September 2009, 19:52
Just completed 90,000k on my 94 VFR. Bought it 15 months ago with 64,000k on it.
It came with a complete service record.
Aside from standard new bike service the valves have only been done twice, 15000 and 34,000. They haven't needed adjusting since.
Two new chains – x ring 40,000 and 86,000
One set of sprockets 40,000k
One set of brake pads 40,000k
One regulator 42,000k
Three sets of spark plugs, most recent 76,000
Two batteries 42,000 and 88,000
fork oil(10W) 90,000k - it needed it!
Up grade of main lights at 74,000k to plus 90% Hellas otherwise all seem original.
It came with new rear Pirelli and 70%new on the front
Since then I've used one front Shinko and the rear Shinko is coming up 80% worn. I'll replace the rear with another Shinko. There is a new Conti Road Attack with 2000k on it. I'm running the front Conti between 38 and 42 – it's 42 on the Conti website.
Lots of oil changes. Longest between changes has been 6500k
The only failures to date have been the two batteries and the regulator
The bike is standard, with original exhaust but I have Oxford heated grips, pack rack and Hella plus 90's
I use various forms of luggage according to needs, an Orse tank bag, Ventura soft paniers and topbox - oh and the dog abode.
There's been a mint spent on cleaning stuff.
my vfr just ticked over 100,000k, speedo cable broke, needed a new battery, fork seals and bushes needed doing. and ive got a rear wheel bering on the way from japan. all up its almost cost me as much as i payed for the bike :Oops:
nico
29th September 2009, 19:58
Me too, I'm due belts and desmo adjustment in 5000ks. That won't take long to hit that mileage.
hahahah i think you might have more change than me bud lol
rocketman1
29th September 2009, 20:10
Mate you have missed out depreciation on the purchase price, the biggest cost of all . We are talking costs $$$ aren't we.
My SV cost $12,500 brandnew, done 10,000 km had 2 oil changes, one free, one
rear tyre $250, that's all. Apart from rego & wof and fuel of course.
What else would you expect from a new Suzuki.
Depreciation, well thats when hurts, I could expect at best to get $8500-9000... yes that hurts a loss of $4000 in 2 years. Thats $160 per month. Not too bad compared to what some expensive bikes, could lose.
That what I tell myself as some weak consolation, for buying new.
I would not like to think what some expensive bikes cost $/km for some riders.
Still if thats what it costs so be it.
Cars and boats are worse, had a mate with a boat paid $32000 for it, used it about 8 times sold it 2 years later for $20,000 thats more than $1000 per trip, excluding running costs. Hmmmmmmh
Its just as well bikers dont analyse things too much, we would never buy that new Aprilia, Ducati or Harley would we.
nico
29th September 2009, 20:15
Mate you have missed out depreciation on the purchase price, the biggest cost of all . We are talking costs $$$ aren't we.
My SV cost $12,500 brandnew, done 10,000 km had 2 oil changes, one free, one
rear tyre $250, that's all. Apart from rego & wof and fuel of course.
What else would you expect from a new Suzuki.
Depreciation, well thats when hurts, I could expect at best to get $8500-9000... yes that hurts a loss of $4000 in 2 years. Thats $160 per month. Not too bad compared to what some expensive bikes, could lose.
That what I tell myself as some weak consolation, for buying new.
I would not like to think what some expensive bikes cost $/km for some riders.
Still if thats what it costs so be it.
Cars and boats are worse, had a mate with a boat paid $32000 for it, used it about 8 times sold it 2 years later for $20,000 thats more than $1000 per trip, excluding running costs. Hmmmmmmh
Its just as well bikers dont analyse things too much, we would never buy that new Aprilia, Ducati or Harley would we.
i'd hate to think what id actually get for mine lol best i just run it to the ground :2thumbsup could be a dam long time cus it's hondddddddddddddddda
cheshirecat
29th September 2009, 20:46
i'd hate to think what id actually get for mine lol best i just run it to the ground :2thumbsup could be a dam long time cus it's hondddddddddddddddda
OK Any ideas as to what running costs are per 10,000k for those getting on over 70.000 (just made this number up so can be changed)
Nico you must be in the lead at over 140k hows the VFR doing
nico
29th September 2009, 21:02
OK Any ideas as to what running costs are per 10,000k for those getting on over 70.000 (just made this number up so can be changed)
Nico you must be in the lead at over 140k hows the VFR doing
it's fine m8 just normal wear n tear really still going blody strong , touch wood, knock knock
for 10 thou im 3/4 wear tryes 2 oil changes about 100 in oil and honda accord filter's fit the vfr and cost 6buck's a pop 2 tanks of gas a week, and thats genuarly about it bar any thing needing fixn
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