Facepalm! Sigh.

[ital916]

This is why we get high acc charges and a bad name to boot.

Having watched twice, I have come to the conclusion that the gsx1200 doesnt realise he has front brakes.

Im pretty sure this is over the rimutakas (confirmation??).

On a side note gsx1200y are puuurdy bikes....mmmm.......moon waffles....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsL4PXIka3Q

[Edbear]

It shows two things IMO. One, that a 250 is plenty adequate for most NZ roads and, two, that they are typifying the idea of bikers being "temporary citizens" as any corner could have been concealing a slow vehicle which they would have run right up the tailpipe of at the speed they were travelling at.

Too often on country roads I have rounded a corner and been grateful I was not travelling 10km/h faster finding exactly that in front of me.

[NDORFN]

That was the worst riding I've ever seen (the GSX). If I was the guy on the NSR I'd never want to ride with that inconsiderate prick again.

[Madness]

Yes, it's the Rimutaka's. The south (Hutt) side to be precise.

That's Craig on the 12. He know's his bike has front brakes, they probably just weren't working that day. Craig's a bit "special" but a good coont, none the less. I'd ride with him again any day.

P.S: He's much quicker on the uphill and no, He's not a KBer.

[YellowDog]

There was too much traffic to ride like that.

I suspect he is not aware that he is dragging the rear brake so much.

On one occasion he almost lost the rear end.

[paddy]

It shows two things IMO. One, that a 250 is plenty adequate for most NZ roads and, two, that they are typifying the idea of bikers being "temporary citizens" as any corner could have been concealing a slow vehicle which they would have run right up the tailpipe of at the speed they were travelling at.

Too often on country roads I have rounded a corner and been grateful I was not travelling 10km/h faster finding exactly that in front of me.

YES! So very true.

[NDORFN]

Yes, it's the Rimutaka's. The south (Hutt) side to be precise.

That's Craig on the 12. He know's his bike has front brakes, they probably just weren't working that day. Craig's a bit "special" but a good coont, none the less. I'd ride with him again any day.

P.S: He's much quicker on the uphill and no, He's not a KBer.

Was that you filming?

[Madness]

Was that you filming?

No. I'm too much of a fat cunt for a 250 and I'm clever enough not to post such material on the interweb. You can get charged for that shit, didn't ya know?.

[R6_kid]

If I was the guy on the NSR I'd never want to ride with that inconsiderate prick again.

I know! I hate people that wear cordura and ride tourers pretending like they are sportsbikes. What is that all about?

[NDORFN]

No. I'm too much of a fat cunt for a 250 and I'm clever enough not to post such material on the interweb. You can get charged for that shit, didn't ya know?.

You might have ridden with Craig before but has he cut in on you like he did to the NSR?

[Madness]

You might have ridden with Craig before but has he cut in on you like he did to the NSR?

Pass.

He used to run Knobblies on his old bike, on the Taka's.

[MSTRS]

Well, that was neither pretty nor clever. Stay away from me and mine.

[Mom]

Too often on country roads I have rounded a corner and been grateful I was not travelling 10km/h faster finding exactly that in front of me.

Next time I see you remind me to teach you some really cool hand signals I have adapted to use when this sort of thing happens
:tugger: One of them looks a bit like this, but could also be misconstrued as shaking your fist if you dont get it exactly right.

:weird: This one has many variations, but generally the messsage can be clearly understood

:finger: And of course there is always this one, sometimes you can use more than one finger too.

All good stuff!

Any arsehole that crosses the centre line into my path, be it on 2 wheels or 4 is fair game as far as I am concerned!

[NDORFN]

I know! I hate people that wear cordura and ride tourers pretending like they are sportsbikes. What is that all about?

Aaaah hahahaha. That's gold.

[Devil]

You might have ridden with Craig before but has he cut in on you like he did to the NSR?

Looks like he was let in to me.

[Devil]

I know! I hate people that wear cordura and ride tourers pretending like they are sportsbikes. What is that all about?

Wanna race bro? :whistle:

[NDORFN]

Looks like he was let in to me.

Looked like NSR noticed GSX coming and moved over to avoid an accident.

[Madness]

You might have ridden with Craig before but has he cut in on you like he did to the NSR?

I just watched again. Looks to me like the 250 was hard to the left when the 1200 passed him. I'd put $20 on the likelyhood that the 250 waved him on.

I miss that hill.

[NDORFN]

I just watched again. Looks to me like the 250 was hard to the left when the 1200 passed him. I'd put $20 on the likelyhood that the 250 waved him on.

I miss that hill.

Yeah now that I think about it he was supposed to be filming, so of course he waved him on.

[Taz]

I watched it twice and still don't see the problem. What is the problem?

[marty]

that is seriously some of the shittest lines and general riding i have seen. and i've been on a few coro loops!

[Pedrostt500]

apart from fucking up his line into one of the first few corners, i don't see anything to write home about, it wasn't great riding, and it wasn't the worst i've seen on the open road, a couple of amatures having a bit of fun.

[MDR2]

What was the problem?... what was the problem?@!?!?!

not once did i see any hands removed from bars to wave!

disgusting stuff there.

[mnkyboy]

Those 12's are a real whale to ride.

And you don't need brakes on the 12 the engine braking is fantastic

edit: Forgot to add my psuedo disdain at the "wankers" Cause I'd never ever do anything ever like that.

[TOTO]

seems that both riders are too excited that they are on camera and forget that what makes riding vids cool are good lines, rather than riding beyond personal limmit and taking corners crappy.

[ital916]

I was impressed that he didnt crash when he went straight off one of the first corners.

The 250 though is a nippy wee beast. Ran wide on a few corners though...or maybe them be "racing" lines...cos we all know the roads a racetrack ;)

Woah! Fuck me...2000 posts....I have no life :weep:

[The Pastor]

looks like fine riding to me

[gtr boy]

could have been skidmark and beyond......................lol

[Insanity_rules]

Yep sure is the tukkas. I'm impressed he didn't ass off on the first corner but then again I hold the world record for the slowest Ducati on the hill.

[roadracingoldfart]

Some rider training and a better selection of lines would greatly benifit both these twits.
Some of the worst lines i have seen and i assume over exagerated for the camera. Sorry , i didnt work.

[Ducky848]

The first corner was dodgy no doubt but after that I dont see that much of a problem. Camera views are restrictive, the rider has a much larger field of view and is higher up to boot. Most of the corners that look a little blind prolly had reasonable visiblity around them.

The 12 appeared to suffer engine lock from knocking down a few cogs too many rather than over aggressive rear brake.

The lines may not be the best, but, it aint a racetrack and sometimes there are reasons for not holding the perfect line, be it shit on the road, looking for better visibility, passing a car, yadda yadda.

Looked like great fun to me.

[wbks]

could have been skidmark and beyond......................lollol wtfux with the avatar?

[gtr boy]

not bad eh....

[jono035]

The rear lockup is pretty hilarious, bet that was a pucker moment to be sure.

It looks like he was leaning his body out of the corners though? I thought the idea was to lean into the corner so there is more of your weight on the inside so the bike can be more upright?

[ital916]

The rear lockup is pretty hilarious, bet that was a pucker moment to be sure.

It looks like he was leaning his body out of the corners though? I thought the idea was to lean into the corner so there is more of your weight on the inside so the bike can be more upright?

Shifting your body around shouldnt really be neccessary on the road, I find usually weighting the outside peg, gripping the tank with my knees and a nice relaxed hold on the bars is enough.

[Indiana_Jones]

That guy is my hero.

-Indy

[wbks]

That guy is my hero.

-IndyOh Sh*t. I think I just heard Steve McQueen kick his coffin door off

[Eddieb]

I know! I hate people that wear cordura and ride tourers pretending like they are sportsbikes. What is that all about?

Ooooh, is someone scared they'll get overtaken or shown up by a rider who isn't as 'cool' as they are cause they're not in the latest Flouro leather gear riding a crotch rocket?

Whats wrong with a rider enjoying their bike, whatever it is?

What a dick.

[Bronson]

Ooooh, is someone scared they'll get overtaken or shown up by a rider who isn't as 'cool' as they are cause they're not in the latest Flouro leather gear riding a crotch rocket?

Whats wrong with a rider enjoying their bike, whatever it is?

What a dick.

Good on you Eddie. These guys are having fun.
Who gives a fat rats ass what they're riding or what they're wearing?

[wbks]

Good on you Eddie. These guys are having fun.
Who gives a fat rats ass what they're riding or what they're wearing?Possibly me if he locks that back up again and wobbles in my direction:whistle:

[PrincessBandit]

When I see riding like that (and I would imagine that it's reasonably common on any given weekend around the country) it does make me feel that those riders have what's coming to them sooner or later.

I still don't see why riders feel the need to bare their balls when it comes to putting others at risk from a poor judgement call or bike malfunction.

Seeing a rider cross that centreline like that I would find it very hard to feel guilty if my car bonnet collected a flying bug wearing leather or cordura. The unacknowledged problem is that I'm just as likely to be the "crash statistic" when they fly into the front of my car (or worse, smacking the front of my bike in).

Blah Blah Blah, I could go on, but you've heard it all before.

[vifferman]

It looks like he was leaning his body out of the corners though? I thought the idea was to lean into the corner so there is more of your weight on the inside so the bike can be more upright?
That's what I noticed. Even though he seemed to be sticking his knee out on the corners a bit, he was leaning the bike in, rather than leading with his shoulder (and/or getting off the seat a bit). Not the greatest cornering technique.

But I wonder how many of us would fare if we were filmed like that? What poor technique(s) would be revealed?

[Pixie]

I know! I hate people that wear cordura and ride tourers pretending like they are sportsbikes. What is that all about?

It's called "not being a posuer"

I did not see anything particularly reprehensible about the riding.
What a bunch of old women

[sondela]

Oh Sh*t. I think I just heard Steve McQueen kick his coffin door off

Dang, his coffin had a door? Kewl!!!

[wbks]

Dang, his coffin had a door? Kewl!!!Its more like a house, they had a hard time trying to fit so much badass into one regular coffin

[mnkyboy]

That's what I noticed. Even though he seemed to be sticking his knee out on the corners a bit, he was leaning the bike in, rather than leading with his shoulder (and/or getting off the seat a bit). Not the greatest cornering technique.

You've never ridden a gsx1200 have ya?

It's all about the hips

[vifferman]

You've never ridden a gsx1200 have ya?

It's all about the hips
Yes, actually I have. But I still can't see that (aside from dirt bikes) there'd be any advantage to leaning the bike further into the corner than your body. Some techniques hold for all bike models.

[Str8 Jacket]

I like to spend my days watching and judging other people, as I am so much more superior. I don't get much else achieved but at least I feel better about myself...

[Zuki lover]

Its an amazing video. Seen it before - bit of a dumb arse I reckon

[mnkyboy]

Yes, actually I have. But I still can't see that (aside from dirt bikes) there'd be any advantage to leaning the bike further into the corner than your body. Some techniques hold for all bike models.

It suprisingly does work for those. They're a heavy whale of a thing and it's easier to counterbalance the bike by doing it; especially in the twisties.

Maybe my riding was sub-par as well (Which well may be the case) But that is how I found it cornered better. Not something I do on the Duc now tho

[marty]

It suprisingly does work for those. They're a heavy whale of a thing and it's easier to counterbalance the bike by doing it; especially in the twisties.

Maybe my riding was sub-par as well (Which well may be the case) But that is how I found it cornered better. Not something I do on the Duc now tho


It's probably effective for the pace, but it's not the most efficient.. Equal and opposite - the more the bike leans in, the more likely it is to break away in the opposite direction. It would be a precursor for a high side I would have though.

[ital916]

I like to spend my days watching and judging other people, as I am so much more superior. I don't get much else achieved but at least I feel better about myself...

That only works if the person watching doesnt partake in the activity, as motorcyclists we are all out there riding. Its good that you do feel better about yourself though...always feels good to well feel good ;)

[Patrick]

What was the problem?... what was the problem?@!?!?!

not once did i see any hands removed from bars to wave!

disgusting stuff there.

From the rider or the oncoming bikers, at about 53 secs and at the end.... !!!

I assume the next video is of them turning around to chase down and confront them non wavers?

[Str8 Jacket]

That only works if the person watching doesnt partake in the activity, as motorcyclists we are all out there riding. Its good that you do feel better about yourself though...always feels good to well feel good ;)

I will judge who I like when I like. It makes *me* feel better about myself...

[klingon]

This would be a very good video to use as the basis for some rider training - that of the rider in the vid as well as the rest of us!

I also noticed that the rider was pretty much sitting upright while he leaned the bike way over into the corners. Now, I'm just a newbie myself but surely there is no advantage to putting more lean than necessary on your tyres? Especially with those high banks that could easily have dropped a bit of loose rubble on the roads - meaning traction could be a problem in a lot of the left-handers already.

It would be fun to sit down with a bunch of people who actually know how to ride and analyse the good and bad techniques. Hmmm... Where do you think I could find a bunch of people who actually know how to ride? :whistle:

[Madness]

I wonder if the two riders in the vid actually took the time to review and analyse their riding, breaking it down corner by corner. Maybe they just continued to ride and enjoy themselves and didn't really give a flying fuck what others thought of them.

One thing I can say about the guy on the 12, from having ridden with him for a couple of years. I'm fairly certain He'd "take his medicine" if there were any consequences to be had as a result of his actions. Analyse that!

[PrincessBandit]

I wonder if the two riders in the vid actually took the time to review and analyse their riding, ......Maybe they just continued to ride and enjoy themselves and didn't really give a flying fuck what others thought of them.


Ah but people who video and then put that footage up for public viewing always have an interest in what other people thought. Otherwise why film it and make it public? Publicity always brings admiration/criticism/reaction - it's why they do it. (It's just that everyone likes others to rave about their prowess and ability rather than face detractors).

[Madness]

Ah but people who video and then put that footage up for public viewing always have an interest in what other people thought. Otherwise why film it and make it public? Publicity always brings admiration/criticism/reaction - it's why they do it. (It's just that everyone likes others to rave about their prowess and ability rather than face detractors).

You assume the riders both know each other?. There's a high probability in this case that the two may have just met over a smoke at a well known roadside carpark.

[Ducky848]

That's what I noticed. Even though he seemed to be sticking his knee out on the corners a bit, he was leaning the bike in, rather than leading with his shoulder (and/or getting off the seat a bit). Not the greatest cornering technique.

Ever seen any SuperMoto? Or been on a track with one? Damn fast cornering technique and perfectly reasonable style if your bike is happy to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUK6aOEJKo

[jono035]

Ever seen any SuperMoto? Or been on a track with one? Damn fast cornering technique and perfectly reasonable style if your bike is happy to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUK6aOEJKo

Looks to me like they're still shifting their weight inside but by a little bit less?

Elbow sliders? Yikes.

[Eddieb]

Possibly me if he locks that back up again and wobbles in my direction:whistle:

It's the rider, not the bike they are on.

I've seen plenty of sports bike riders pull moves that deserve a slap about the head.

[wbks]

It's the rider, not the bike they are on.

I've seen plenty of sports bike riders pull moves that deserve a slap about the head.When did I mention the bike?

[jono035]

It's the rider, not the bike they are on.

I've seen plenty of sports bike riders pull moves that deserve a slap about the head.

Weird, I figured he was just referring to riders in general.