Telecom just accidentally my internet plan [Archive]

Blackshear

1st October 2009, 18:25

Same. Fuckin' jews, I think I'm swapping to Orcon or Xnet, just have to decide which.
I wasn't aware of any other Unlimited plans that were cheaper than $80, hence me gloating like a motherfucker to my mates.

oh man not my unlimited slow internet!

See pic, I got decent DL speeds. Upload never bothered me.
Thought I have this feeling Jafa has a bone to pick with me about seeding :sherlock:

Tell them to fuck off and go with snap.

$90 month including phone and you get 20G.

Dunno what you pay now but $10 more won't be too far off it surely?

20G? CUrrently paying $50/m for the unlimited plan. But yeah, $10 isn't much, it's more or less the bullying into a new plan that makes me grumpy.

Blackbird

1st October 2009, 19:22

Same but have had no communication from them yet.:mad:

vifferman

1st October 2009, 19:34

Waah!

Bleaters. :Pokey:

I've got freeloading troglodyte downloaders in my basement. I'm fkn lucky if my bill dips below $350 a month...:argh::crazy::crybaby::crazy::eek5::Oops:: wacko::weep:

Blackshear

1st October 2009, 19:40

waah!

Bleaters. :pokey:

I've got freeloading troglodyte downloaders in my basement. I'm fkn lucky if my bill dips below $350 a month...:argh::crazy::crybaby::crazy::eek5::oops:: wacko::weep:

jesus christ get an unlimited plan

firefighter

1st October 2009, 19:54

I'm fkn lucky if my bill dips below $350 a month...:argh::crazy::crybaby::crazy::eek5::Oops:: wacko::weep:

Your job obviously pays a lot better than mine!

vifferman

1st October 2009, 20:10

jesus christ get an unlimited plan
I can't even remember what the plan is (or rather, was). It was an old ihug plan, that doesn't exist under Vodafone. Summat like 60Gb is included for some number of shekeldollars, then $2/Gb over that. It is unlimited, I just have to pay for it.

mossy1200

1st October 2009, 20:18

Waah!

Bleaters. :Pokey:

I've got freeloading troglodyte downloaders in my basement. I'm fkn lucky if my bill dips below $350 a month...:argh::crazy::crybaby::crazy::eek5::Oops:: wacko::weep:

Now we know who owns pornhub.

AllanB

1st October 2009, 20:21

I've got freeloading troglodyte downloaders in my basement. I'm fkn lucky if my bill dips below $350 a month...:argh::crazy::crybaby::crazy::eek5::Oops:: wacko::weep:

That's a serious porn addiction ...........;)

vindy500

1st October 2009, 20:24

I can't even remember what the plan is (or rather, was). It was an old ihug plan, that doesn't exist under Vodafone. Summat like 60Gb is included for some number of shekeldollars, then $2/Gb over that. It is unlimited, I just have to pay for it.

you know unlimited for a fixed price plans exist, right?

gwigs

1st October 2009, 20:29

I,m sure they have been slowing down the speed on Go Large ...
Mines been getting so slow I,m loosing the will to live...
Think I,ll be ditching Telescum....

vifferman

1st October 2009, 20:56

That's a serious porn addiction ...........;)
I'm sure some of it's porn, but they download all sorts of weird shit: foreign language movies, language lessons, physics lectures, manga, stuff I don't want to know about...

Oh - and I've checked the Vodafone site - there isn't a better plan, and I don't want to swap ISPs again (have used so many over the last 10 years, including several that no longer exist).

ready4whatever

1st October 2009, 21:35

What isnt going up now-a-days

Street Gerbil

1st October 2009, 21:49

Fuckin' jews,
This is not very nice of you.

Gremlin

2nd October 2009, 03:30

Blackshear

2nd October 2009, 11:34

accidentally :laugh:

accidentally :killingme

I would imagine its very deliberate. Even the telecom website is down right now, but they have a new large plan, whatever it was called. Guess you have to move to that...

accidentally :killingme

It's called Big Time.
Just like GoLarge, but without an upload cap. So my UL will be going from about 17KB/s max to around 90-100KB/s max.

However. 'UNLIKE GOLARGE, which had artificial bandwidth caps, Big Time will not. However, like GoLarge, we will be enforcing Traffic Management - Mainly during the busy times of 9am - 2am (Basically a whole fucking 24 hours), so you may see a decrease in speed during these hours.'

Oh and by the way, any existing GoLarge/other Telecom customers.
My broadband speed literally DOUBLED when I changed from the free router they provide. From 4.1-5mbps to 9.5mbps. Well worth $40.

This is a big whoop for me, been on this plan since '07 :oi-grr:

firefighter

2nd October 2009, 11:38

from the free router they provide. From 4.1-5mbps to 9.5mbps. Well worth $40.

$40?! Where from? Which router?

Blackshear

2nd October 2009, 11:40

$40?! Where from? Which router?

Well there was one on trademe for $40, same as mine for that much.

Or you can say the original stopped working :whistle:

EDIT: Thomson Speedtouch

SMOKEU

2nd October 2009, 13:19

Go with Telstra.

Blackshear

2nd October 2009, 13:50

Go with Telstra.

They look rather expensive for what I would switch from.
Whatever it is, it can't have a cap. I'd die if I wasn't allowed over 200GB a month.

DMCD

2nd October 2009, 14:00

Oh yea, Telecom sucks for many reasons.

I think TelstraClear is the way to go for sure, you cant go wrong with TelstraClear, its great...

( Looks around to make sure boss is watching ) :shifty: :shifty:

Slicksta

2nd October 2009, 15:45

I would still go with big time man
I went from go large to big time and got a speed increase. Also with big time they let you turn of interleaving thats well worth it if you play online games or just like an awsome ping.Last night i was downloading from game trailers at around 9.6mbit for international traffic, thats not bad, Nationally i get 15-18mbit peak times.The unlimited upload is awsome if your like me and seed or upload heaps of shit.

YellowDog

4th October 2009, 07:33

Thanks for this guys.

I just got the same letter too.

I quite like the idea of $10 for a faster upload speed.

So the Big Time has more than just no cap, when compared with the no additional cost Explorer Plan?

I would be quite happy with a 10Gb limit as I have grown out of the porn thing (sad I know). I rather do it rather than watch it being done.

So for me, I will be paying $10 per month for a faster upload speed. Right?

Lias

4th October 2009, 13:08

Big time is fucking great.. I did over 700gb in my first month, and I still get good pings and no lag for gaming during peak hour.

MDR2

5th October 2009, 19:26

Come home from work today to see a letter from telecom on the table. A quick read of it has me seeing red. The Go Large plan that im currently on is beig discontinued. That is to say they are rolling out new plans and forcing existing customers and new alike to sign up to the new plan. You would think being an existing customer I could just stay on the current plan...no.

Summary of letter: Telecom are rolling out another turd encrusted plan and charging out the ass for it.

Current top of the line plan sets me back $49.95 (too much considering all the things they say i can do (stream/download/browse the net) i stuggle to do just one of those at the best of times. Watching anything on you tube is a painful thing.)

New plan (which doesn't sound all that much differint to current plan) will set me back another 10 bucks on top of current plan.

Add a further 10 on top of the extra cost if you're not a currently paying your toll calls through them currently.

This letter if pretty much the straw that breaks the camels back. I'm looking for a new broadband provider tonight, i'll cancel my cell phone at the end of month and the wife will be canning what associations her buisness has with them also.

The missus has started up a Facebook thingee against Telecom ( I dunno quite how it works )

I'd like to think that if enough people got shitty enough about it they would atleast re consider leaving existing customers on the plans they are already on.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149881618404

325rocket

5th October 2009, 19:43

theres another thread on here about this as well. they tried to push us off this once before but we wouldnt go. looks like theres not much choice this time.

The missus has started up a Facebook thingee against Telecom ( I dunno quite how it works )

I'd like to think that if enough people got shitty enough about it they would atleast re consider leaving existing customers on the plans they are already on.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149881618404

good idea but do you really want to stay on that plan? im on it to and its crap. pretty much dial up speed for $49 per month. im pretty sure they have been slowing it down to encourage people to get off it to.

btw: it just started hailing, nothing to do with telecom but there you go.

sil3nt

5th October 2009, 20:46

Slicksta

5th October 2009, 21:06

We are on an old Ihug plan that we refuse to change.
20 gig on peak and 20 gig off peak for a lot less than any similar plan charges these days.

I find it hard to understand why people use telecom as an ISP. Telstra is miles better (from experience) i would also give xnet a good look at for high data usage.

because telecom offer the best value if your a bit of a downloader or gamer.
Xnets service is terrible so slow once you hit 2am latency is all over the place

What other isp offers me:
Interleaving off
Unlimited Data
Full speed ADSL2+ up and down
For $59.95 a month

http://www.speedtest.net/result/539007347.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Done 120GB this month so far

Sidewinder

5th October 2009, 21:12

owell i dont pay for it

Forest

5th October 2009, 21:33

Give Orcon a try. They don't have a minimum contract term - so you're not going to get stuck with them if it doesn't work out.

Of course if you live in semi-rural area like me, then Orcon just resells you a Telecom ADSL line. You have to be in town to get onto their ADSL2 network.

MDR2

5th October 2009, 21:59

i'm thinking orcon or telstra will be the go.

can't even download the GP it's going so crap... 15 to 30 seconds between pages loading up, fucken bollocks is what it is.

rainman

5th October 2009, 22:47

I'm looking for a new broadband provider tonight,

This is NZ. Don't bother, they're all crap.

Maybe not Orcon. Haven't used them personally, and wasn't impressed by my interactions with them, but some seem to like them.

vifferman

6th October 2009, 08:53

Unlimited Data
Full speed ADSL2+ up and down
For $59.95 a month
Really?
Unlimited data for $60?
Sounds kind of unbelievable. Given that the ISPs seem to all charge for volume, why would they have a plan like this?

Insanity_rules

6th October 2009, 10:25

you know unlimited for a fixed price plans exist, right?

No not for much longer. All of the ADSL resellers are being booted off it ie actrix, orcon and the like. Like it or not unless its telstra cable all ISP's buy adsl wholesale off telescum. Sucks eh? I'm on the old unlimited on Actrix and they have had the plug pulled on it. From what I can gather only telecom will be offering it.

Oh and by the way, any existing GoLarge/other Telecom customers.
My broadband speed literally DOUBLED when I changed from the free router they provide. From 4.1-5mbps to 9.5mbps. Well worth $40.

Did they tell you that you have to be connected to that plan for 24 months (disconnection fees apply for early termination) to get that free router? Its a nice router either the thompson (domestic) or two wire (business) that they provide though don't get me wrong. They still making a buck on it.

If you want to try to get faster broadband and your router is over a year old, change it for an adsl 2+ compatible one and it'll probably get a little faster provided you have adsl 2 in your area. If your in rural Waikicka-moocow then you may be shit out of luck.

I worked for Telecom for 9 years, telstra for 2 and a half, Orange (UK) for a year and World exchange for 3 years. My current company resells Actrix. None of them are saints.

YellowDog

6th October 2009, 15:17

OK - Ive just upgraded to the new $59.95 plan and I have an immediate improvement:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/584105850.png
The download is 1mb better and the upload is 650kb/s better.

I used to get a 16Mb/s download on cable whilst int he UK, but as Rainman says, you should adjust your expectations.

Very happy :)

Blackshear

6th October 2009, 18:54

Did they tell you that you have to be connected to that plan for 24 months (disconnection fees apply for early termination) to get that free router? Its a nice router either the thompson (domestic) or two wire (business) that they provide though don't get me wrong. They still making a buck on it.

If you want to try to get faster broadband and your router is over a year old, change it for an adsl 2+ compatible one and it'll probably get a little faster provided you have adsl 2 in your area. If your in rural Waikicka-moocow then you may be shit out of luck.

I worked for Telecom for 9 years, telstra for 2 and a half, Orange (UK) for a year and World exchange for 3 years. My current company resells Actrix. None of them are saints.

The free D-Link you get with the startup package (And in my case, 1 free months credit) is pretty shit. I moved to the current Thomson and DL speed doubled. Both were ADSL+2 compliant.

I've had a look around all of the other plans from Orcon/Telstra and whatnot, but None of them have (if applicable) a reasonable Unlimited plan.
My experience with Telecom since the Go Large inception has been perfectly fine. I guess other people have been stung bad by them before, but meh unlimited $50 flat.

Insanity_rules

6th October 2009, 21:26

The free D-Link you get with the startup package (And in my case, 1 free months credit) is pretty shit.

I hear ya, they update their firmware every 2 months and every time its a lemon. Thompson always been quite good.

Slicksta

6th October 2009, 23:44

Really?
Unlimited data for $60?
Sounds kind of unbelievable. Given that the ISPs seem to all charge for volume, why would they have a plan like this?

Well they do have managed p2p ect during the peak times but speed is still good enough for me to stick with them.Telecom has this new caching system popular websites get cached so you download the data from telecoms servers rather than using international bandwidth i guess that helps them, thats the way i understand it anyway. Besides how many percent of the southern cross cable do telecom own 50%?

Check it out if your interested (https://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/select/1,10627,205836-204473,00.html?action=/plan&detail=17)

TOTO

6th October 2009, 23:59

same here. I'll be switching to "Next Big Thing (http://slingshot.co.nz/NextBigThing.aspx)" on slingshot.

PrincessBandit

7th October 2009, 06:35

We're with orcon on their Platinum plus plan (4 people in this house using the interdweeb, including one uni student): 25G a month on fastest speed, free toll calls (up to an hour). Couldn't be happier.

oldguy

7th October 2009, 06:55

The free D-Link you get with the startup package (And in my case, 1 free months credit) is pretty shit. I moved to the current Thomson and DL speed doubled. Both were ADSL+2 compliant.

I've had a look around all of the other plans from Orcon/Telstra and whatnot, but None of them have (if applicable) a reasonable Unlimited plan.
My experience with Telecom since the Go Large inception has been perfectly fine. I guess other people have been stung bad by them before, but meh unlimited $50 flat.

I agree:yes: Im happy if I have to pay an extra $10 per month, Oh did I mention my sister works for Telecom, thou she doesn't have anything to do with the internet side of things, just loyalty to her haha.

jono035

7th October 2009, 06:59

I'm with Orcon on their Silver+ plan with a 50GB upgrade for 55GB a month. $80/mo for the base (net + phone) plan and $50/mo for the upgrade.

Good speeds, normally get 200-300kB/sec when downloading, good latencies whenever I've been doing anything that cares. OS updates come off a NZ server at 2MB/sec.

And they're owned by Kordia, which is government owned so you're directly supporting a kiwi organisation that has been instrumental in getting telecom to stop strangling the life out of NZ internet.

As a side note unlimited plans have always been, by and large, a relative disaster. All the ISP bandwidth is oversubscribed meaning for every megabit of incoming feed they have 10 customers that they sell that to as a megabit connection. Data transfer limits are a good way of ensuring that customers pay for what they use.

Edit: The RTA1320 router I had was good but apparently they are plagued with power-supply death issues. The Linksys AM300 that I have now works brilliantly, solid connections and stable line rates.

Motig

7th October 2009, 18:25

Well after getting Telecoms letter to change to Big Time I did. $60 is cheap for the amount of downloading I do plus the daughter still manages to play World of Warcraft nightly so its a lot cheaper than anything else I've seen. Plus they gave me a new Thomson wireless modem which has got to be better than my original Telecom D Link 302. ADSL 2 is meant to be in my area in December too.

Blackshear

16th October 2009, 15:03

jono035

16th October 2009, 15:15

Just switched to Big Time last night, and the P2P throttling and gaming really took a blow to the balls.

A few servers in CoD4 went from their usual 60-80 ping jumped to 200-odd between 6-9pm.

The p2p, refer to the picture.

Christopher, the P2P warrior.
Seed by day, download by night.

Orcon for fucks sake.

I'm not going to keep saying it.

I downloaded the new breaking benjamin album at just over 1MB/sec yesterday morning. It took just over a minute.

Blackshear

16th October 2009, 15:19

Orcon for fucks sake.

I'm not going to keep saying it.

I downloaded the new breaking benjamin album at just over 1MB/sec yesterday morning. It took just over a minute.

Lol, boooooy.
I think yourself and I have different personal preferences.

jono035

16th October 2009, 15:53

Lol, boooooy.
I think yourself and I have different personal preferences.

Lol, I retract my statement, stay on any ISP other than mine :D

I had a 105GB cap for a while through Orcon but stopped maxing it out so downgraded to 55GB.

The problem with the unlimited cap plans was people expanding their usage to fit the plan rather than getting a plan that fits their usage. You need some form of user-pays there otherwise the over-subscription model breaks down very quickly.

Blackshear

16th October 2009, 15:59

Lol, I retract my statement, stay on any ISP other than mine :D

I had a 105GB cap for a while through Orcon but stopped maxing it out so downgraded to 55GB.

The problem with the unlimited cap plans was people expanding their usage to fit the plan rather than getting a plan that fits their usage. You need some form of user-pays there otherwise the over-subscription model breaks down very quickly.

Nah man, it's just opinions. No grumpy faces here.

I agree whole-heartedly with being 'pressured' into using the most of your unlimited plan, and I guess Telecom does now, too.

We shall see how much I can clock up in a month under the intense throttling.

Hell, I might even have to get some usenext going on.

jono035

17th October 2009, 09:30

Nah man, it's just opinions. No grumpy faces here.

I agree whole-heartedly with being 'pressured' into using the most of your unlimited plan, and I guess Telecom does now, too.

We shall see how much I can clock up in a month under the intense throttling.

Hell, I might even have to get some usenext going on.

Yeah, getting a decent external hard drive helps a lot too, you tend to have a lot more random stuff to get through that you get off friends and then you have your cap for things you really want to get. 105GB is still a ton of media unless you're downloading HD movies...

Then again, for all I know, you may be doing that and still churning through that much traffic :crazy:

Blackshear

17th October 2009, 10:57

Yeah, getting a decent external hard drive helps a lot too, you tend to have a lot more random stuff to get through that you get off friends and then you have your cap for things you really want to get. 105GB is still a ton of media unless you're downloading HD movies...

Then again, for all I know, you may be doing that and still churning through that much traffic :crazy:

720p or bust. 1080p isn't worth 2x the file size, IMO, especially 2-3m from the screen.
My small circle of friends don't offer much ha ha, all on <10GB caps and use it all on WoW and such, so really I have to do it all myself :oi-grr:

But yeah mostly movies/doco's/programmes to my hearts contempt :banana:.

jono035

17th October 2009, 12:03

720p or bust. 1080p isn't worth 2x the file size, IMO, especially 2-3m from the screen.
My small circle of friends don't offer much ha ha, all on <10GB caps and use it all on WoW and such, so really I have to do it all myself :oi-grr:

But yeah mostly movies/doco's/programmes to my hearts contempt :banana:.

lol, almost need a 2nd line that you all chip in towards... As long as you don't want to do anything latency requiring then you'll be fine though.

scracha

19th October 2009, 13:52

jono035

19th October 2009, 14:14

Over the last 2 months, 4 of my customers have been told by Telecom that they need to change their phone line to them to get Telecom broadband with them.

My vodyfone broadband has been very $hite the last few months. Connects at 7.5Mbps but never mind P2P, just general surfing is $hit.

Yeah, I had this happen when I was on Ihug and they got bought by Vodafone. Basically went from great to dial-up in about a month.

Gremlin

22nd October 2009, 21:08

Been on Big Time since the beginning of October.

Can't complain really. We're so far away from the exchange, on shit phone lines etc, that the speed is pretty constant throughout the day. Normally sitting at 150-200 KB/sec

Not too fussed, but moving from 10GB a month and constantly hitting dial up (which is REALLY bad) to not caring, and downloading whatever is needed (3.7GB last night) is really useful :2thumbsup

cambridgedan

22nd October 2009, 21:12

Same. Fuckin' jews, I think I'm swapping to Orcon or Xnet, just have to decide which.

im on xnet at the moment and they have been great :D

jono035

22nd October 2009, 21:20

im on xnet at the moment and they have been great :D

Xnet are another good ISP, I have a couple of friends on them and they're pretty happy with transfer speeds and latencies.

I'm still behind Orcon for being such a solid force against the recent draconian copyright bullshit that was proposed. If it wasn't for Orcon, you'd be getting your net cut off for even being accused of downloading copyrighted content...